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Hey Warriors,

Hope you are having a great week.

I was browsing some videos on Youtube and I came to realisation that most of these new Youtube gurus who seem to teach you how to make money with Shopify or Clickbank etc... they seem to never do what they teach you to do.

And it's funny because the more you watch these videos, the more you brainwash yourself into believing that what they teach actually works.

It's like one video says you can make money with Fiverr and gives some really unrealistic claims and theorises everything without any actual proof of how the method really works, or they show you a screenshot of their Shopify store which is nothing special because most of the money they show has gone into ads and the profit margin is really low..

Now people who watch these videos are really getting into a never ending loop of watching theories that never really work in real life.

I'm sure there are many of you here on the Warrior Forum who've had similar experience.

My advice to you would be to stop watching videos or following these young so called gurus who give you false information that takes you nowhere.

Simply stick to one course, or one mentor who's really having good results with what you're trying to do, and follow him/her until you are happy with your results.

The more videos, emails and noise you let get into your mind, the more you'll be overloaded and never actually do what is required to make money online.

Do you agree? What are your thoughts on this one..

Best wishes,

Eric
#affiliate marketing #ending #information overload #loop #newbie #struggle
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    Interesting observation

    Question: if they don't do what they teach, where do they get their screenshots from? I'm talking about traffic as well as income screenshots.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ryan Mcginnis
    You mean the panty dropping whips and get rich in 30 days isn't real? DANGIT the last 6 months have been a waste. lol I get so frustrated that all these annoying people flood my Youtube. I haven't fallen for those but it makes it so hard to find someone you feel is legit. I'm afraid to ask because I'm sure this will lead to a bunch of under 25 y/o "Gurus" but anyone have any Ecomm channels that they like watching that are all flaunty but genuine?
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Well you gotta give credit to where it's due. If they have Youtube videos up and are getting lots of views and clickthroughs to their site, then i'm sure they can do the same for a product in an obscure niche. And even if alot of their money made is soaked up by advertising costs... they still have the customer's name, which gives them the opportunity for backend revenue. So these new Youtube gurus (some of them) are doing something right.
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  • Hi ! Yes and no with your train of thought.

    I agree that there are many people out there who are riding on the wave of the shared knowledge economy like Fiverr and giving the wrong advice that they claim it is their area of expertise. But I cannot totally discredit some advice from online sources or learning some ways to overcome a problem by learning from the internet through YouTube and so on. I have always toldl my family members that Google is my best friend. I turned to anything (absolutely anything) that I need an answer on through Google and research from Google and 'sieve' out the true and logical advice or solution. I guess we have to be able to discipher the bad expert advice from the genuinely good ones. I do learn a fair bit via YouTube.

    However, I do agree that everyone of us MUST have a mentor to guide us in whatever route we choose to take in terms of learning and courses. I am glad that I had invested in myself and still very much in touch with my mentor and his support team for my Internet Marketing journey. I go to them whenever I have queries or encounter some tricky roadblocks. And yes, instead of going to different coaches for the same subject matter, stick to the magic number of ONE ! Yes, ONE. One that is truly reliable and has proven to be an expert in his own field and has walked the same journey as you. My mentor and his support team have shared with me about their journey in Internet Marketing so they can basically empathize with my issues or any roadblocks that I may encounter.

    In summary, I strongly believe in learning from reliable online sources and one's mentor that will walk the journey with you.
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  • Profile picture of the author erealmz
    I think a lot of these gurus are just trying to brand themselves by creating value. I've noticed that many of them create basic content while linking a product that is supposed to have their "true" money making strategies.
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    • Profile picture of the author theDarkKnightMarketer
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      Originally Posted by erealmz View Post

      I think a lot of these gurus are just trying to brand themselves by creating value. I've noticed that many of them create basic content while linking a product that is supposed to have their "true" money making strategies.
      Yes, and I have nothing against providing value. But what most of them do is make everything look super easy and simple when in reality it's not.

      Instead of giving value, they confuse you even more.

      Most people then end up following hundreds of gurus and make nothing.

      This overload of information is what keeps most people from succeeding.

      The goal is to focus on one thing and master it. That's it.
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  • Profile picture of the author depotgang
    One issue is many people offer training for techniques that WORKED...but with enough people adopting those techniques they lost there effectiveness. Link farms used to be great for SEO but they were gaming the system and Google found a way to make them no longer work.

    See...

    So most techniques may work for a while! Understand if it was still working SO WELL why would they give them away....Would they not just use it themselves...

    Copywriters can make anything sound irresistible...I know...but the fact is most..SIMPLE things are only simple because they no longer work.

    I have a lot of personal experience in this arena...
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    My thoughts are that it's too easy to get lost in a flight of fancy by watching YouTube guru videos.

    The problem isn't that the gurus are lying (necessarily); the issue is that the observer wastes time by consuming content. Instead, they should focus on honing their craft and engaging their own creations.

    It's true that it's a great idea to watch WHAT the gurus are doing. What are they doing? They're creating content, and LOTS of content. Blog posts, Podcasts, webinars, books, courses, newsletters, videos, social content, et cetera.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post

      It's true that it's a great idea to watch WHAT the gurus are doing. What are they doing? They're creating content, and LOTS of content. Blog posts, Podcasts, webinars, books, courses, newsletters, videos, social content, et cetera.
      This ^

      It's not rocket science. Skip the BS, watch the process.
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  • Profile picture of the author IGotMine
    What are they doing? They're creating content, and LOTS of content.
    All the people who make money selling "passive, auto-pilot" income methods are working their asses off. That's what most people don't understand.

    They're not making money doing what they "teach." They are making money creating content to sell to people looking for the mythical "auto-pilot" method.

    It doesn't matter if the methods work or not. The people who buy the myth will buy another and another. If your audience is interested in dreams then that's what you create and sell to them.
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    • Profile picture of the author erealmz
      They do work their ass off. But if they do it right, they get paid big. Also, much of the work can and is being automated with software. That's where the "myth" comes from...
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  • Profile picture of the author adsterr
    Do list building. create your own product. Its the best way to buuild a lasitng business. being a affiliate doesn`t last.
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    • Profile picture of the author theDarkKnightMarketer
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      Originally Posted by adsterr View Post

      Do list building. create your own product. Its the best way to buuild a lasitng business. being a affiliate doesn`t last.
      You can build your list and promote affiliate products to them. There are many products that pay over 75% per sale and I don't think there's anything wrong with promoting products as an affiliate.

      You still have control over your list but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't be doing affiliate marketing.
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  • Profile picture of the author RuskinF
    I had the same question as well.
    If they don't do what they preach then how do they produce results that seem to be true.
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    • Profile picture of the author Reddevil007
      Originally Posted by RuskinF View Post

      I had the same question as well.
      If they don't do what they preach then how do they produce results that seem to be true.
      Probably by faking the stats?
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    • Profile picture of the author savidge4
      Originally Posted by RuskinF View Post

      I had the same question as well.
      If they don't do what they preach then how do they produce results that seem to be true.
      If you pay attention to what really is going on.. they may actually be showing "Actual Results" but the numbers they are showing is GROSS... I can sell 2 Million on Amazon... but its what ends up in my pocket that matters

      Using $2,000,000 as an example..

      40% is taken by the IRS ( $800,000 )
      40% is taken by Amazon for fees and shipping and storage etc ( $800,000 )

      Add in the cost to ship to Amazon
      Add in the actual Cost of Goods ( the actual investment to "making" $2,000,000 )

      And then throw in stupid look at me Im rich female dog they go buy a lambo... they have just lost their tail end they are making payments on a car they cant afford, they are making payments to the IRS...

      they now are selling the program that made them broke and not woke AF, to try and stay a float.. to get them out of the hole they just dug.

      IF you really start paying attention to the numbers these people slip in every once in a while, you realize that most of the sizzle is $5.00 at a crack after expenses. There be a whole lot of Lincolns in 2 millie

      They might be selling a "Dream" but the reality is it will play out as a nightmare.
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

        If you pay attention to what really is going on.. they may actually be showing "Actual Results" but the numbers they are showing is GROSS... I can sell 2 Million on Amazon... but its what ends up in my pocket that matters

        Using $2,000,000 as an example..

        40% is taken by the IRS ( $800,000 )
        40% is taken by Amazon for fees and shipping and storage etc ( $800,000 )

        Add in the cost to ship to Amazon
        Add in the actual Cost of Goods ( the actual investment to "making" $2,000,000 )
        i thought the irs didn't get a cut until all the legitimate business expenses where taken out ..if the irs took that much from the gross ..virtually no business would operate ..

        but how i have seen the real numbers explaines ..is many of these 2,000,000 on amizon or shopify businesses ..end up with very little net ..because the info business you can build after that can make you millions of dollars a year with 90 percent net ..
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  • Profile picture of the author AffiliateRag
    There is alot of truth in this post. We call it "shiny object syndrome' or "sos" (save our ship lol). People easily get training ADD and jump from one thing to the next, never truly perfecting the first one. In the instant gratification society, too many are looking for no effort income at high levels and when it doesn't happen immediately, they try something else. My mentor taught me a very valuable lesson. (Soccer analogy) Find the ball...take it to the goal...and kick it in that goal over and over and over and over...don't be like everyone else who runs with the ball from field to field never finding any goal and chasing shiny objects with empty promises.
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  • I totally agree. The way YouTubers are making money is through the YT partnership program. The more views and subscribers their channels receive, the more money they make. So, it is in their best interest to keep people tuned in, even if what they are peddling doesn't work. So sad when that's the case. I wouldn't say that every YouTuber is like this, as there are some very good videos that show ways to make money online that actually do work well. You just have to know how to differentiate among the good and the bad, and that comes with experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Flm
    There's plenty of information out there. Plenty of beef.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Nang
    I agree with that, i don't know if There's any hidden info about their strategies or something, but the sure thing is that chasing 2 strategies at the same time is worse than doing nothing at all. One mentor and one strategy is what's required, And thats one point that i saw in one fb group the other day, i was talking with one person and then she started to contradict my views with like 3 different strategies and approaches which i'm not saying that they were bad, but at the time for the tests she hasn't tried in depth each one of those, so i view this as a mater of focus and practice
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  • Profile picture of the author Bkelly301
    People making money online by teaching others how to make money online, when in reality the person that is making the money online is only making the money online from the sales of their make money online product.

    I've seen this before.
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  • Profile picture of the author kingsmansion
    Thank You ... That helped me so much ... Made me realize what I have been doing has not worked, because of jumping from course to course ...
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
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    I actually stay in the loop even tho it can be nauseating as a marketer to get marketed to but that one out of 10 that makes me want to reach for a credit card will be a note taking event.


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  • Profile picture of the author Bald Avenger
    I was in a loop once and declared a war on the way out. I did it.

    But didn't come unscathed.
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  • Profile picture of the author VirtualVeena
    Totally agree with you.
    Unbelievable the kind of things one sees on Youtube.
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  • Profile picture of the author jellyfish76
    have to find a way to access esoteric knowledge and differentiate between gold and garbage
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  • Profile picture of the author RichardSmith0803
    That's their bait. They tell us all these unrealistic claims and hook us in and then pitch us into a free webinar and then they show us their lambos and then tell us to buy a 997 course which is 50% off.Literally 99% of the gurus do that. The only online guru that I watch nowaday on a daily bases on Alex becker. He use to do all that but he no longer does that. He actually teaches us a lot of thing about business and he doesn't try to sell us on anything at the end of the video. He owns a sas company for tracking. I highly recommend everyone to watch his videos. They have helped me a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Heinz
    It takes a Jedi to reckon a Jedi.

    Food for thought.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rashida Qureshi
    I agree! I also think it's so easy to get sucked up into the world of these YouTube gurus and then end up spending more time watching videos than actually taking any action! And then you build up 100 different ways of doing the same thing and get too overwhelmed to even start in the first place!

    I'd also add to that by saying that people should definitely double check to see if these gurus really know what they're talking about and that their main source of income isn't actually YouTube itself. This absolutely isn't to say that all of them are scams - I just think it's important to know how reliable your sources of information are.
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  • Profile picture of the author chavelle
    i swear i'm about to do a video on how all these gurus tell you things to do while they are doing the opposite. Like never giving up their true traffic sources. I've been marketing for 7 years and i decided years back to just stick to seo and i'm crushing it. And that's why i want to wake people up and tell them how the gurus use pbn's but swear they don't. It's virus time and all the scammers are out to get your every dollar. They email you 5-6 times a day with a new scam.Thanks for bringing this up.
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    Sometimes wanting to be saved is when salvation comes.

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