The mindset of making money with IM. Key ideas...

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Everyday scores of people discover the Warrior Forum and are excited to find a place where they can learn about making money with Internet Marketing (IM).

Excited, maybe overwhelmed with information, uncertain of what to do, who to follow or listen to and what their next step is going to be.

A best guess judged on the last 20 years is that most come UNDERFUNDED to actually begin a business. Which is why IM is so attractive in the first place, one doesn't need much.

But in the 20+ year archives here they will find a central theme, which goes: if you don't have money to invest in your IM, then you must invest TIME.

And, all too often, they don't have that either. They NEED to start making money, like yesterday. They lack the time to learn. And so their journey begins.

Some may be here 5 years, or even 10 and will still post up about this, that or the other thing they SHOULD do, having never earned anything but pennies during their time here.

Could be sad for those who care.

So, hopefully, this new thread on MINDSET as it relates to WF and making money will serve as a GO spot or a starting point on their personal monopoly game board.

As your piece sits on GO, before you roll your dice, try to understand the following:

You don't get paid for doing nothing.

Write that down. Only say, "I won't get paid for doing nothing." Write it out and put in on your computer or on the back of your cell. It is a fact of IM.

So, if it is true, and if you doubt it, let us know why you think it is a false premise, OK?

IF you don't get paid for doing nothing, then look at what you can DO to get paid.

Start with the idea of being PAID. A payment is made in exchange for goods or services provided and when both parties agree on a value.

All business is based on transactions. A simple one would be having your bike for sale in your front yard, with a sign with price, and someone stopping and buying it giving you what you have asked.

That is a simple transaction, a one off. Now if you have a basement full of bikes, then maybe you just put the next one in the yard and wait for it to sell.

A TRANSACTION is when VALUE (most often money or currency) is exchanged, but money is not the only means of making the exchange. Maybe instead of cash they offer you a game for your bike and if it is something you want and feel it is a fair exchange, you send the bike down the road and go play your new game.

OK. So, you have to DO something to get paid.

You have to offer either a product or a service. That actually is the easy part, you may have a basement full of bikes, but you live in the country where only a few cars a day pass by.

What can you do to sell those bikes?

Well, maybe you can take them to town, distribute them to a few retail places, and offer a COMMISSION for selling the bikes, in the real world this is known as CONSIGNMENT, online in IM it is mostly seen via AFFILIATE marketing, and eCom has exploded under this concept. Getting other people to sell your goods and services for you. It is a HOT IM concept. And often it is one of the very first that a new Warrior will look at. It appears easy because:

You don't have to find a product or service to sell. That is the good news about affiliate marketing. The bad news is, like your bikes in different retail locations on consignment, they are only one of thousands of other products these merchants may be offering. Your bike could sit in a consignment shop for months, and maybe it would have sold quicker out in the country.

But maybe you want to REPAIR bikes which are given to you or you buy dirt cheap, they have a lot more VALUE if you fix them and then sell them. You want to provide the service of fixing bikes.

You want to DO something. In IM there are many sites, including the WF sister site, Freelancer dot com. This site is like Fiverr and Upwork, Guru, and 99designs and other places where you can offer your services on a contract basis.

Graphics, web site design, Search Engine Optimization (SEO), copywriting, content, video, audio are a few of the many choices you have to be a service provider. And this may suit your talents better, but the catch or problem with service providers, you have to have SOMEONE (a prospect) who will become your customer and exchange value with you.

Getting customers is the HARD part, and with a dozen or more sites offering service providers, you may find yourself competing against thousands of others, many of them with portfolios of past work, so it may sound easier to provide a service rather than get into selling products, but the challenges are mostly the same...FINDING A BUYER.

Many new Warriors are like the guy in the country with his bike in the front yard, and only a few cars a day pass by to see it. And it doesn't take long for this new to IM person to start to look for alternatives.

So what is a good beginning MINDSET for the New Warrior and for any seasoned Warrior who hasn't yet achieved some form of independence with their IM?

ONE way of THINKING, other than how can I quickly and easily make some fast cash, is to ask yourself what you bring to the party? What skills, knowledge, experience do you have BEFORE you even begin your IM? And probably more important, what do you like or love to do?

We see it a lot, FOLLOW YOUR PASSION, the money will follow. Sounds good. Great advice, but it doesn't help the majority who need to start making money as soon as is possible.

So the mind becomes conflicted, and a conflicted, confused or overwhelmed MIND may be the very first piece of work you have to do.

And before one even gets into how his thoughts got there, and the belief she has, a reckoning or a settling of your thoughts and a focus on first, getting your thinking under your control...BEFORE you act on any given IM venture.

Your thoughts?

GordonJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
    Amazing post GordonJ. : ) Thanks. I don't have the time right now to comment on everything ... However I thought I would comment on this point:

    Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

    We see it a lot, FOLLOW YOUR PASSION, the money will follow. Sounds good. Great advice, but it doesn't help the majority who need to start making money as soon as is possible.
    I've heard that before as well. Sometimes working on "Financial Freedom" can be a strong enough motivation. Rather than "Follow your passion" .. I would recommend a Person choose a Venture .. That they're passionate about. I know from experience that when a Person is doing something that they really care about -- it makes a World of difference --
    and will keep them working, motivated, and accomplishing their goal(s)

    2C

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    • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
      Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

      Amazing post GordonJ. : ) Thanks. I don't have the time right now to comment on everything ... However I thought I would comment on this point:

      I've heard that before as well. Sometimes working on "Financial Freedom" can be a strong enough motivation. Rather than "Follow your passion" .. I would recommend a Person choose a Venture .. That they're passionate about. I know from experience that when a Person is doing something that they really care about -- it makes a World of difference --
      and will keep them working, motivated, and accomplishing their goal(s)

      2C

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      Thoughts?
      Well, I like your spin on it, to be passionate about what they are doing, as opposed to do what you love, the money will follow.

      All too often, a love turns to resentment, then hate. When many hobbyists take their passions to the marketplace, and it becomes work, they find out their passion escaping from the hot air balloon ride and they begin falling.

      My sister, a gifted tole artist in S. FL, tried to turn her art into a business, but the deadlines and HAVING to create art on demand with deadlines, didn't suit her. She was much happier, just doing what she loved and offering her works are art faires and such.

      And ME too. Loved golf. Had a dream, was going to ...well it doesn't matter what I was going to do, but when golf became a full time plus business, and the money was pouring in, I began to dislike the golfers, the game and eventually myself.

      So I would say, like you do, to be PASSIONATE about what you are doing, but be careful about turning your passion into a business...when it works it is great...but when you create success from your love, sometimes, the love fades fast.

      And also. Caring about making money, getting financial freedom can be something to get passionate about too, so I also agree with you there.

      GordonJ
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      • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
        Thanks for the reply. : )

        Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post


        So I would say, like you do, to be PASSIONATE about what you are doing, but be careful about turning your passion into a business...when it works it is great...but when you create success from your love, sometimes, the love fades fast.
        Yeah that's definitely something important People should be mindful of.
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    Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

    So what is a good beginning MINDSET for the New Warrior and for any seasoned Warrior who hasn't yet achieved some form of independence with their IM?

    ONE way of THINKING, other than how can I quickly and easily make some fast cash, is to ask yourself what you bring to the party? What skills, knowledge, experience do you have BEFORE you even begin your IM? And probably more important, what do you like or love to do?

    We see it a lot, FOLLOW YOUR PASSION, the money will follow. Sounds good. Great advice, but it doesn't help the majority who need to start making money as soon as is possible.
    The above for me... is the greatest of hurdles. I have said it before, I am saying it now, and I am sure I will say it again... a 165lb dude that has never dieted in his life can sell a diet plan to women ( as a beginner )

    So the variables at play are Skills, Knowledge, and Experience... I would narrow that down to 2 and go with Knowledge and Experience. Skills - they can be learned as you go along.

    I am in the ( for beginners ) Follow your passion crowd - and I get what you, GordonJ is saying here... and in a moment I will throw a caveat at this.

    So we throw in this:

    Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

    So the mind becomes conflicted, and a conflicted, confused or overwhelmed MIND may be the very first piece of work you have to do.
    and my brain says " We need to alleviate some of this " and the only way I can think of is
    to start with something you know... does it have to be something your passionate about? probably not...but for the sake of communicating on the WF... its a pretty good place to start. With passion one would think that the variables of Knowledge and or Experience come into play... If utilized correctly - in theory this should alleviate an amount of the confusion.

    The other place to start is literally within your living space... in the kitchen, on your shelves, on your wall... something you OWN. The odds are not 1 in 1,000,000 or 1 in 100,000 its ore like 1 in 100 or 1 in 10 the chance that if you OWN X... other people would be and ARE interested in the same thing. Be it a toaster, or Pokémon cards or Anime or whatever... you are NOT alone in owning or wanting to own such a thing.

    So the caveat... I personal have one of these ( or a few ) its the INTENT of the Passion that I think draws a line. There is Passion like a musician playing an instrument or all things Pokémon...and then there are things like Golf ( I suspect ) for GordonJ or Bicycles for me personally that are a way to "Escape" and get away.

    I personally have an obsession for cycling... in my younger years I actually rode as a profession... and knowing this... I have NEVER sold a single bike or part or affiliate program OR provided a professional service to a shop. I get on a bike to get away from "The World" its ME time. This becomes something I do not want to tarnish with work.

    An interesting side note Golf for me is another one of those "Escapes" and aside from selling some golf clubs here and there on eBay... it is another vertical I stay away from professionally.

    The flipside of this is my passion for Programming - really more like an obsession... and it is at the very core of my success... and I enjoy it as much today as I did when I was 13 on my first computer.

    Passion CAN BE the shortcut to many of the beginner questions.. what do I write about? or Where do I find an audience? etc... because chances are better than good you already are involved to some degree in the community that is your passion - You have an amount of Knowledge, and probably have some of the needed experience... you are going to have a "Voice".

    Trying to sell anything, you have no clue about... is just torture and a failure waiting to happen. But once you are passed the initial set up spending 2 hours a day and writing about something you know... and participating in the community you probably are already a member of is not such a chore.

    Again a personal example.. my son is required to stream every day. His growth over the past 2 years of streaming day in and day out has been astounding... at first he just played silently... NOW... he is a freakin yak box... people in his chat or not... he just talks and reacts verbally. I may be a bit biased but he is amusing to watch play, and he is 13. As much as he watches other streamers... he understood what he liked and disliked as a viewer...and set those in motion in his game play.

    It comes down to how much you can bring to the table in DIRECT Knowledge, Experience, and Skill. How exactly can you simplify and remove some of the confusion and learning curve in starting something new.
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      Advanced warning. I'm about to be a bit snarky, no apologies coming...

      other people would be and ARE interested in the same thing.

      And I would add, or want/need the same thing. So, I begin singing...

      Hey, hey SNOWFLAKE, my pretty little snowflake,....in the sky, yes you are unique and are one of a kind, but on the ground we can't tell you from a million others.

      End of singing, and yes, it was off key (inside joke).

      Naval gazing for those who have never heard of it, is SELF-indulgent contemplation, and one way to identify is by the number of "I"s in a post.

      In spite of what mommy said, you are NOT so special, not unique in a significant way and you do have the same needs and wants as MILLIONS of other people.

      You might want to look in the mirror, see 10,000 YOUS and there you have your first niche market. And as savidge4 has repeatedly said: (and will say again)

      learn by teaching as you learn.

      So, man or woman in the mirror, what do you need to LEARN? How to DO? Guess what?

      You are on the ground cover of snow, and there are MANY OTHERS who are in the same boat, and all you have to do is (again, thanks to savidge4) document and share your journey and you can't help but build an audience.

      And even learning how to monitize that journey has value in the market place.

      In business, we laugh when we come across a business person who says, "My business is different."

      Most all of them believe this. It is why we laugh, because we know theirs isn't.

      So get out from under the microscope and look around. There is a market, maybe many of them, just waiting for someone like you to teach them, and it is easily done by teaching them as you learn yourself.

      GordonJ

      Keenly aware of triggering effects of "snowflake" these days, but just as Drummer Hoff did, I fired it off.

      P.S. In addition to those old free sites in my sig file report (which could serve as a template for a short report too)..there have been a lot of FREE sites pop up, I've tested several of them,

      WIX is dirt simple to get started, could be LIVE in about an hour or less. Google free website builders for many more, of course, GOOGLE SITES is a free place to get started. Word Press dot org is free.

      ClickUp has a great starting point, for FREE even.

      Barely scratches the surface of FREE, quick, easy and no code necessary to GET STARTED.



      Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

      The above for me... is the greatest of hurdles. I have said it before, I am saying it now, and I am sure I will say it again... a 165lb dude that has never dieted in his life can sell a diet plan to women ( as a beginner )

      So the variables at play are Skills, Knowledge, and Experience... I would narrow that down to 2 and go with Knowledge and Experience. Skills - they can be learned as you go along.

      I am in the ( for beginners ) Follow your passion crowd - and I get what you, GordonJ is saying here... and in a moment I will throw a caveat at this.

      So we throw in this:



      and my brain says " We need to alleviate some of this " and the only way I can think of is
      to start with something you know... does it have to be something your passionate about? probably not...but for the sake of communicating on the WF... its a pretty good place to start. With passion one would think that the variables of Knowledge and or Experience come into play... If utilized correctly - in theory this should alleviate an amount of the confusion.

      The other place to start is literally within your living space... in the kitchen, on your shelves, on your wall... something you OWN. The odds are not 1 in 1,000,000 or 1 in 100,000 its ore like 1 in 100 or 1 in 10 the chance that if you OWN X... other people would be and ARE interested in the same thing. Be it a toaster, or Pokémon cards or Anime or whatever... you are NOT alone in owning or wanting to own such a thing.

      So the caveat... I personal have one of these ( or a few ) its the INTENT of the Passion that I think draws a line. There is Passion like a musician playing an instrument or all things Pokémon...and then there are things like Golf ( I suspect ) for GordonJ or Bicycles for me personally that are a way to "Escape" and get away.

      I personally have an obsession for cycling... in my younger years I actually rode as a profession... and knowing this... I have NEVER sold a single bike or part or affiliate program OR provided a professional service to a shop. I get on a bike to get away from "The World" its ME time. This becomes something I do not want to tarnish with work.

      An interesting side note Golf for me is another one of those "Escapes" and aside from selling some golf clubs here and there on eBay... it is another vertical I stay away from professionally.

      The flipside of this is my passion for Programming - really more like an obsession... and it is at the very core of my success... and I enjoy it as much today as I did when I was 13 on my first computer.

      Passion CAN BE the shortcut to many of the beginner questions.. what do I write about? or Where do I find an audience? etc... because chances are better than good you already are involved to some degree in the community that is your passion - You have an amount of Knowledge, and probably have some of the needed experience... you are going to have a "Voice".

      Trying to sell anything, you have no clue about... is just torture and a failure waiting to happen. But once you are passed the initial set up spending 2 hours a day and writing about something you know... and participating in the community you probably are already a member of is not such a chore.

      Again a personal example.. my son is required to stream every day. His growth over the past 2 years of streaming day in and day out has been astounding... at first he just played silently... NOW... he is a freakin yak box... people in his chat or not... he just talks and reacts verbally. I may be a bit biased but he is amusing to watch play, and he is 13. As much as he watches other streamers... he understood what he liked and disliked as a viewer...and set those in motion in his game play.

      It comes down to how much you can bring to the table in DIRECT Knowledge, Experience, and Skill. How exactly can you simplify and remove some of the confusion and learning curve in starting something new.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
        Lol Fair enough post GordonJ.

        However my opinion ― and what I've read ― is that People are, actually, very unique. Sure, there are many similarities, however for another Person to be exactly the same as another (or more) ... All things considered ... The chances are astronomically very, very low.

        As it's been said: "God doesn't make copies."
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        • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
          Do you sometimes find yourself being too literal?

          Of course we are all unique, but, in the context of IM (remember where you are) and looking for niches and markets, we all fit into larger groups of people with the same wangts and needs. I find this exhausting.

          GordonJ


          Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

          Lol Fair enough post GordonJ.

          However my opinion ― and what I've read ― is that People are, actually, very unique. Sure, there are many similarities, however for another Person to be exactly the same as another (or more) ... All things considered ... The chances are astronomically very, very low.

          As it's been said: "God doesn't make copies."
          : )
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          • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
            Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

            Do you sometimes find yourself being too literal?
            Sure. Good point. : ) However sometimes People express their thoughts/beliefs/etc as "humour"

            Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

            Of course we are all unique, but, in the context of IM (remember where you are) and looking for niches and markets, we all fit into larger groups of people with the same wangts and needs. I find this exhausting.
            I agree. : )

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            For what it's worth ― it's great that you (and savidge4) are great Communicators/Contributors to Warrior Forum. Hopefully I can contribute something as well. : )
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        • Profile picture of the author savidge4
          Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

          However my opinion ― and what I've read
          What I read says something totally different.. did you know there is a mere 1.2% separation across human DNA. And that is assuming we look at Monkey DNA... Human DNA is like 0.1% from all of the studies I have read

          If you break that down with some simple math.... 1.2% divided by 7,000,000,000 you end up with a point of separation from one being to the next at 3 over 1,750,000,000,000 or 3 over 1.75 Trillion.

          You can say we are "Unique" all day long... but the actual truth is, we are far more alike than different.
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            Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

            What I read says something totally different.. did you know there is a mere 1.2% separation across human DNA. And that is assuming we look at Monkey DNA... Human DNA is like 0.1% from all of the studies I have read

            If you break that down with some simple math.... 1.2% divided by 7,000,000,000 you end up with a point of separation from one being to the next at 3 over 1,750,000,000,000 or 3 over 1.75 Trillion.

            You can say we are "Unique" all day long... but the actual truth is, we are far more alike than different.
            Funny, I look at all that too, and I am in the middle of a neuroscientist documentary https://youtu.be/m-1etGWVvb8- that they discovered they could do brain surgery, remove the entire frontal cortex - and somehow people can still recall events, memories, and they have a sense of "self" within the remaining brain hemispheres.

            I get into Dr. Maxwell Maltz, Bruce Lipton, and even Robert Kennedy Jr - who look at biology and ecology as an influence to our human behaviors and they all seem to agree - many of the authority's in such sciences as in DNA, biology, and our external knowledge of our environment suggests - we are far more advanced than science has been able to explain. Some would argue they are not treating diseases or our evolutionary process properly, almost suggesting the mainstream science is trying to de-evolve our intelligence.

            And... if we go way back to hermetic principles and old school teachings - you can find parallels or major similarities throughout nearly every wise teaching (*religions as well) that suggest; "The Mind is ALL - The Universe is Mental" - which I interpret to mean - we are ALL connected, despite our "mental conditions" and the variables only exist within our own imaginations, imaging centers, and our individual sense of being.

            I love all that (now were back in the woo-woo department, lol)
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          • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
            Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

            You can say we are "Unique" all day long... but the actual truth is, we are far more alike than different.
            As I said before, for two People to be exactly the same ... (Including Genetics/DNA, Personality, Upbringing, Values, Thought-Processes, Life-Experience, Interests, Character/Character Traits ― and many, many other things) ... The chances are very low.
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            • Profile picture of the author DABK
              You are right.



              I do agree with Savide's sentiment despite of that.


              Because, for practical purposes, true identity is not required.


              It helps if there are more similarities but you do not need 100% identity.


              Silly way of putting it, but I think it will carry my point:


              me and you, we both do not have

              3 eyes
              4 eyes
              5 eyes
              6 eyes
              7 eyes....


              79,497,258,3964,124,897,944,217 eyes.


              See the amazing number of ways we are similar when it comes to eyes alone?


              If one of us had only one eye, we would have significant difference because of that, or maybe none... because chances, you know.


              Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

              As I said before, for two People to be exactly the same ... (Including Genetics/DNA, Personality, Upbringing, Values, Thought-Processes, Life-Experience, Interests, Character/Character Traits ― and many, many other things) ... The chances are very low.
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              • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
                Originally Posted by DABK View Post

                Because, for practical purposes, true identity is not required.
                Not 100% sure what you mean ... However it reminds me more of the list ... (=) .. Including Identity, Self-Image ... Intellectual, Emotional, and Social Intelligence ... Skills and Attributes ... The list is kind of endless. (Lol) Well maybe not endless however it's certainly very large.
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    Great post .People should understand that quick rich scheme doesnt work .To make money you need to deliver a sell a good product ,make some good service like freelancing etc .Innother words you need to deliver value
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      Originally Posted by spartan14 View Post

      Great post .People should understand that quick rich scheme doesnt work .To make money you need to deliver a sell a good product ,make some good service like freelancing etc .Innother words you need to deliver value
      Yes.

      With an addendum in my opinion: VALUE is a perception or perspective.

      I bear witness, to having seen large sums of money (mid 6 figures) being brought in a matter of days. That is 400, 500 and 600 THOUSAND dollars.

      But the BUT is, this done by folks who knew what they were doing, and some of them, were relative newcomers to the business. They did do their homework first, found a so-called hungry market and delivered the sustenance that market wanted.

      All too often, the limitations on making money quickly are actually self-governors, as we have seen in mind forum threads as of late.

      Many times I've seen BEGINNERS do great because they didn't know they shouldn't.

      But I do agree with you about serving up value, and as for UNDERSTANDING this, we can only present, they have to absorb and apply and it is the APPLICATION where so many stumble and fall.

      GordonJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
    Another Gordon hit. If there were Grammys for Posts you would have a full mantel.

    Yep budget or time. For most... patience seldom comes with most scenarios about pursuit of money.

    Copy writers know this.

    People do spend on their passions. Whether that passion is video games or making money, investing, or gambling.

    We want conversions without dragging them but rather they are sprinting to the checkout page.

    One thing you made me think about in your post is the huge difference between the Warrior Forum and a Black Hat Forum.

    Some people will let weeks, months, and even years go by before they get into their money making rhythm but people who focus on exploits, scraping, and just plain hijacking are not waiting around.

    And that, is also how they themselves get exploited.

    It's a wild crazy wonderful world we live in and lightning can strike on any given day in our favor. But it is up to us to increase the odds.

    To a newbie just starting out I would say follow a proven path. Know the difference between the flavor of the day and a solid long term strategy. Do not think because you are new you should not be selling immediately.

    People are buying regardless of your experience with you or without you so offer something of quality but definitely offer something.

    Learn as you go but keep that focus on quality. You should be fine.
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    • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
      Please resend my last grammy, Kanye stole mine.

      Thanks for your post, there are MANY Warriors still here who frequently contribute solid, useful, practical advice, if followed, would allow many people to cut a lot of time off of their journey.

      I cut and paste many posts a week into a word processor and have dozens of Warriors in there, and often go back and reread their great advice too.

      And as a market niche, BLACK HAT types are even better than low hanging fruit, they are on the ground, ripe for just picking up.

      Whenever we come across a certain mindset, of any nature...be it blackhat types, conspiracy types, anti something or other types...it is very EASY to take money from their wallets, use the right buzz words, dog whistles and silent persuaders and they are the folks PT Barnum lived for.

      I like your "flavor of the day", but just as Brach's Candy found out with their TACO TRUCK of Mexican flavored jelly beans, an experience I GUARANTEE you will regret...having new flavors isn't necessarily a good thing.

      But sell the vanilla, choc, and strawberry all day and night, as boring as it might be.

      GordonJ


      Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

      Another Gordon hit. If there were Grammys for Posts you would have a full mantel.

      Yep budget or time. For most... patience seldom comes with most scenarios about pursuit of money.

      Copy writers know this.

      People do spend on their passions. Whether that passion is video games or making money, investing, or gambling.

      We want conversions without dragging them but rather they are sprinting to the checkout page.

      One thing you made me think about in your post is the huge difference between the Warrior Forum and a Black Hat Forum.

      Some people will let weeks, months, and even years go by before they get into their money making rhythm but people who focus on exploits, scraping, and just plain hijacking are not waiting around.

      And that, is also how they themselves get exploited.

      It's a wild crazy wonderful world we live in and lightning can strike on any given day in our favor. But it is up to us to increase the odds.

      To a newbie just starting out I would say follow a proven path. Know the difference between the flavor of the day and a solid long term strategy. Do not think because you are new you should not be selling immediately.

      People are buying regardless of your experience with you or without you so offer something of quality but definitely offer something.

      Learn as you go but keep that focus on quality. You should be fine.
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      • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
        Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

        But sell the vanilla, choc, and strawberry all day and night, as boring as it might be.

        GordonJ

        Unique twists on the proven
        are like pies bakin' sweet in the oven.
        That's why there ain't no shovin'
        on a planit so interwoven.


        These OK half rhymes in honor of a solid point?
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        • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
          Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

          Unique twists on the proven
          are like pies bakin' sweet in the oven.
          That's why there ain't no shovin'
          on a planit so interwoven.


          These OK half rhymes in honor of a solid point?
          You can make a million bux,
          shining bright your selfy lux,
          Give the people an NFT
          Handwritten verse it will be

          No apple, cherry or rhubarb pie
          No burnt fingers to make you cry
          Only words your written self
          Place the moolah upon the shelf

          Be amazed as we pay,
          Laugh Princess, or it will make you cray.

          GordonJ
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      • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
        Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

        Please resend my last grammy, Kanye stole mine.

        Thanks for your post, there are MANY Warriors still here who frequently contribute solid, useful, practical advice, if followed, would allow many people to cut a lot of time off of their journey.

        I cut and paste many posts a week into a word processor and have dozens of Warriors in there, and often go back and reread their great advice too.

        And as a market niche, BLACK HAT types are even better than low hanging fruit, they are on the ground, ripe for just picking up.

        Whenever we come across a certain mindset, of any nature...be it blackhat types, conspiracy types, anti something or other types...it is very EASY to take money from their wallets, use the right buzz words, dog whistles and silent persuaders and they are the folks PT Barnum lived for.

        I like your "flavor of the day", but just as Brach's Candy found out with their TACO TRUCK of Mexican flavored jelly beans, an experience I GUARANTEE you will regret...having new flavors isn't necessarily a good thing.

        But sell the vanilla, choc, and strawberry all day and night, as boring as it might be.

        GordonJ

        Don't trigger me with the word ConYe. Another day for that one.

        Spot on. I remember when CPA was on FIRE for months and months!

        But everyone was creating and buying only a "method" that lasted as long as the peak sales cycle then they wanted and needed a new one.

        Perfect for the creators.

        What was the best of times? Then or Now?

        Hmm.

        I would have to say if you had no budget to start back THEN was the best of times.

        If you have some budget in this era NOW is the best of times.


        People are buying and selling NFTs with very little marketing these days.
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        • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
          Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post


          People are buying and selling NFTs with very ...
          .

          Thanks Profit Traveler,
          I found this inspirational. So, I got my art kit out this weekend, and I'm fired up.

          As for then and now? Past is gone. Easy is relative. Action is everything, so sez me.

          I wonder what some Warriors did this past weekend?

          Between Friday and today, I wrote two new reports, updated a few HOTSHEETS, laid out a plan for my art in the coming months and played with no code sites and from that have an outline for a couple of more reports.

          The new reports will be on sale within a fortnight. Oh, I also sold some junk on the front porch, enough to invest (if so desired) into a web host site.

          Writing a report takes maybe a couple of hours. I don't expect a windfall, but if history is accurate, these two new little short brief reports will generate over 10k before the year is out, and more than likely will put me in touch with a couple of people to have a profitable joint venture with.

          And I wasted most of the weekend watching golf and TV at that, so how was ya all's weekend? Productive?

          For some, probably not, eh?

          GordonJ
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          • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
            Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

            .

            Writing a report takes maybe a couple of hours. I don't expect a windfall, but if history is accurate, these two new little short brief reports will generate over 10k before the year is out, and more than likely will put me in touch with a couple of people to have a profitable joint venture with.

            GordonJ
            Writing or dictating a blog post takes minutes.

            savidge4 says to document your journey, and I highly subscribe to that idea. Here is ONE of thousands of examples:

            DIARY OF A JOB SEARCH by Tim Johnston with Laura Lorber and Perri Capell

            The subtitles read:

            One man's journey from unemployment to a new career.

            With practical advice for the downsized, laid off, and fed up.

            It started as a series of blog posts.

            Diary of your IM journey??? VERY doable, easy in fact. One a day and in 30 days, you have 30 posts. Some Warriors reach that in a week, posting here.

            And a good read, somewhat related is by Steven Pressfield (a must know guy) and his THE WAR OF ART.

            He examines the internal obstacles to success. I think it must read NOW for some here.

            GordonJ
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            • Profile picture of the author art72
              Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

              Writing or dictating a blog post takes minutes.

              savidge4 says to document your journey, and I highly subscribe to that idea. Here is ONE of thousands of examples:

              DIARY OF A JOB SEARCH by Tim Johnston with Laura Lorber and Perri Capell

              The subtitles read:

              One man's journey from unemployment to a new career.

              With practical advice for the downsized, laid off, and fed up.

              It started as a series of blog posts.

              Diary of your IM journey??? VERY doable, easy in fact. One a day and in 30 days, you have 30 posts. Some Warriors reach that in a week, posting here.

              And a good read, somewhat related is by Steven Pressfield (a must know guy) and his THE WAR OF ART.

              He examines the internal obstacles to success. I think it must read NOW for some here.

              GordonJ
              There's something amazingly powerful about Steven Pressfield's story... I am blown away by the 5 audio interviews - so much relevance and... I literally JUST learned of Joseph Campbell's "Heroes Journey" and "Follow Your Bliss" in the last 6 months... strange he would mention that in the interviews.

              It's been a few months since I began saying; "I need to learn framework" - call it modeling, structure, curriculum, syllabus, etc... no matter what you call it, there's definitely a power in receiving what one asks for - the universe responds! - I actually had "Finding Joe" open on YouTube and was listening to the interviews and audio file mini-course playing (I think interview #4) - when he went through the whole "Heroes Journey" breakdown... coincidence? (*I definitely need ALL 7 BOOKS!... maybe his library, lol)

              When I first started writing... I was going to "pen the name" Ethos Keeper - strangely enough he has a book called; "The Warrior Ethos", really?... normally, I don't read much on war these days - but there is some epic level vibes to his "resistance" theory I cannot deny that makes sense! (Ethos: modes of persuasion and rhetoric... wow!)

              Gordon... you are brilliant - if that didn't just put things in a whole different perspective - I don't know what could! Thank-You, AGAIN!

              As far as getting WORK done...

              This past week, I have designed 6 or 7 book covers and 3D reports in Photoshop, definitely getting better at that - learning how to load and use action scripts helps a lot!

              I learned how to create a "virtual machine" on my laptop to run either Linux, Win 10, or Ubuntu - I am no savvy programmer, but it is definitely starting to make more sense, and I am digging how NetworkChuck teaches the basics on YouTube - (*guy has me drinking coffee at 3am and I still hadn't been to bed yet, lol.)

              Working on my WordPress site (*blog) and landing pages... getting AWeber and the basics in place for list building and email marketing.

              Still feel like I forgot a lot... most of that stuff I had committed to memory is taking a little longer to put together - it's been a few years since I built a site/funnel and even then, I never did drive traffic to it, I bailed on it! (*The resistance was present, for sure!)

              As Profit Traveler mentioned; "I want to SCREAM" when the technology does not cooperate... like my SSL (CSR) - Certified Signature Request has been pending on NameCheap for at least 3 weeks now... and my main URL/Domain currently reads "unsafe" which is NOT COOL! - I need to get that working - or - I won't post anything on the site... won't share the link with the public until that is fixed! (*again, resistance)

              I feel like a 14-year-old with a lawnmower and a gas can knocking on doors... I know someone will say "yes" and I will make a few sales... which is a good start and over time those efforts will compound and more reports, writings, reviews will develop into a actual business - same as the eBay blueprint will grow over time and effort - it's just difficult to forecast when that will generate a full-time income(?)

              If a person sells (3) reports @ say $7 every per report... living on $21 per month will not seed the entire landscaping company or the revenue a lawn care professional can generate with the full suite of truck, tools, trailer, and steady clientele. (so the mind resists)

              In essence, my mind is constantly thinking, I need to make 1000 sales and earn $50 a pop... to live decent - and then do that every month!

              I know that is not how most people's minds think... my mind says why not? then... I go back to the push mower is not gonna get er' done mindset! (*resistance) - it's always there, WTF!? (*Nobody wants to read your Sh*t - it's exactly what it feels like!)

              The traffic already exists... I just don't have the offers created to align with people who already have that traffic, and bribe them with 50% commissions like others do... after all, if you had/have a solid offer for say $97 and payout $50 commissions to jv's with traffic and lists... 1000 sales per month doesn't sound that difficult! (*But... that is putting the cart before the horse, since I am not creating products, sales funnels, and promotional tools at that level of play yet! (*just klike the 14-year-old with the push mower doesn't have a truck, crew, and recurring monthly billing on a 100 clients yet)

              That's it the marketing plan... it's a BIG-GUNS, I just need to believe it will work, and I would've probably already have built it! (there it is... time or money) - and I cannot afford to buy the traffic right now... so it's all time consuming.

              It's hard to see owning a landscape company - if you're the 14-year-old pushing a mower and making $20 per cut... but, if that 14-year-old gets a new bike, gaming system, or some meaningful benefit... odds are probable; that little reward may seed him/her continuing until a few years later owning a landscaping company and having the resources to own a real business! (*hindsight is 20/20)

              And... I do need to start putting my blogs, reviews, and teach what I am learning... there was always a concern there - that some people start teaching long before they have a clue what they are doing and could in essence disrupt as much as it could benefit others.

              So many people buy courses and 5 minutes later they are purporting themselves as experts... that's awesome -if they know they are doing, and it can be done right (*like Savidge, Gordon, and other do to bridge credibility... which Gordon's signature revealed in his recent offering; the bridge!)

              But... if not, we wind up with a noobs teaching others the WRONG WAY - and think there is too much of that in many of the markets (*I see it my old trades offline - all the time, it's frustrating) - definitely all over YT and other markets.

              So, the ideology those who TEACH WELL - DO WELL as they LEARN... is more accurate, I believe.

              I'm still training my brain that everything I need already exists - and I do not need to build the bridge - if there's one already built 2 seconds ahead. Like Savidge said; you only need to be one-step ahead, and I am trying to build a skyscraper already in me brain, instead of the foundation to hold it all up!
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              • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
                Originally Posted by art72 View Post


                As far as getting WORK done...
                There is work.
                Recuperation and Rest R & R

                DISTRACTION, which is what Pressfield calls Resistance, and his work in the book is as good as anything out there on the reason why procrastination exists.

                Gene Schwartz, copywriting genius used a modified Pomodoro timer system (his set to 33 minutes) as a check point. Using this system allowed him a hall of fame career in advertising.

                Schwartz was a reknown art collector, that was his R & R, art plus fine dining. But when he worked, he used the timer to AVOID and defeat distractions, which he eventually overcame almost completely.

                Now work can be gathering the ingredients for the sausage, even a trip to the sluaghterhouse to pick out the pig (from personal experience). Then, getting the herbs, spices etc. and putting them all into the grinder...like a scene from Les Mis, and the Master of the House...

                And out comes a sausage ready to be cured, see the making is only a step, and many Warriors take a lot of time up to the grinder, even having something come out, but it is not ready for consumption.

                Not one of my better metaphors I admit, but instead of making the sausage, for the BIG FEAST, I would rather get already cooked bacon and serve it for breakfast, lunch and dinner, maybe using different recipes, but as the CORE feature.

                You and what you are doing, going for the home run, is making sausage.

                In the meantime, for years, and certainly for the last few months, others have been serving up ready to eat meals and collecting money which accumulates and continues.

                It is a matter of choice, we all get to do our thing.

                I know of a few people who have spent 5 plus years on their home runs. Maybe they will, but for most of us, that is a rough road to ride on.

                GordonJ
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              • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
                Originally Posted by art72 View Post

                The traffic already exists...
                Savidge4 talks of platforms and buyers, and to where traffic already exists is a key for building not only fast profits but establishing yourself in the market.

                Here is another example: NO affilliation, as an example only.

                https://etsy.me/36iUtki

                Note that this marketer has dozens of INFORMATION products, in PDF downloadable form, as well as the jewelry itself.

                It appears the videos and pdf are DOCUMENTATION of making a given piece, so she documents what she is doing as she is doing it.

                What she is doing with wire jewelry, one can find examples of woodworkers, ceramic and clay artists, and even information marketers.

                She sells the piece one time, and has MJ DeMarco type POLYMORPHIC profits for time to come, because she documents the process. There are THOUSANDS of plans, blueprints, patterns, etc., sold at etsy alone, just one platform for selling your simple HOTSHEETS.

                GordonJ

                Also note, she is operating out of Turkey. Sells to the world, and with PDF files, could, if needed convert to any language. Pretty good example, etsy showing she has over 1000 sales.

                And one for the woodworkers: https://etsy.me/3JPDELE

                And one just for art72 https://etsy.me/3xvWqF8 and a bonus art: https://www.stevproj.com/PoolFAQ.html
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                • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
                  https://etsy.me/3kHwM8P

                  Anther etsy seller, this one mostly pdf files, you print, your frame, you hang.

                  With 18, 483 sales on etsy, this was our dream in the mid 1990's to sell electrons.

                  So many opportunities.

                  GordonJ
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          • Profile picture of the author savidge4
            Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

            I found this inspirational. So, I got my art kit out this weekend, and I'm fired up.

            "Life isnt short, you just have to do more" - Logan Paul

            Document away
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            • Profile picture of the author art72
              Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2EVITCWlX4

              "Life isnt short, you just have to do more" - Logan Paul

              Document away
              That was cool... I had scholarship to Ft. Lauderdale Art Institute - I chose a different path. Yeah, the NFT's art and tokens are starting to creep up on me a little bit - I love artwork, and Logan is a trip!

              "Attention is social currency!" - might be something there to explore!
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    One of the first things that stuck in my mind from this forum was "sell shovels to the gold diggers" - I don't remember who said it... but if you watch these HUGE launches and the numbers they pull, it definitely suggests more shovels are SOLD than the GOLD found on the internet.

    I felt BlackHat when my first sales were made online... I was blown away waking up with (2) sales in my account (2x $47 commissions = $94) - but I didn't capture emails, had no clue what the heck I was doing.

    If a person wrote a decent review everyday of product, service, or new software launch and knew how to EXPLOIT those offers... there is a full-time living right there.

    As ProfitTraveler pointed out... BlackHat often preys on opportunity, whereas, WhiteHat thinks long-term and is timid dipping their toes into the internet marketing money making streams... I could be wrong, but in in this day and age - you could operate online as both and neither would be wiser to other.

    My fist sales weren't a scam, but it was a shiny object product offer.
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    • Profile picture of the author DABK
      People tend to want quick results that do not require effort to get.

      Or just one of the two.

      And to he handled gently, allowed to save face.

      It is not your fault that you do not exercise and eat 3 lbs of chocolate a day. It is your boss or greedy corporations ir doctors that got you where you are. However, for a measly 19.95 a month you can have this pill. Take it daily and watch the fat disappear. You will look amazing in a month.

      People buy that.

      Sometimes, it is that blatant, sometimes it is more subtle. But it works.

      Quick and/or easy solutions is why you have so many abs machines, diet pills. That is why so many people who have no business buying a marketing conference ticket buy one and attend that conference. Or buy lotto tickets when they have no money for food.

      Originally Posted by art72 View Post

      One of the first things that stuck in my mind from this forum was "sell shovels to the gold diggers" - I don't remember who said it... but if you watch these HUGE launches and the numbers they pull, it definitely suggests more shovels are SOLD than the GOLD found on the internet.

      I felt BlackHat when my first sales were made online... I was blown away waking up with (2) sales in my account (2x $47 commissions = $94) - but I didn't capture emails, had no clue what the heck I was doing.

      If a person wrote a decent review everyday of product, service, or new software launch and knew how to EXPLOIT those offers... there is a full-time living right there.

      As ProfitTraveler pointed out... BlackHat often preys on opportunity, whereas, WhiteHat thinks long-term and is timid dipping their toes into the internet marketing money making streams... I could be wrong, but in in this day and age - you could operate online as both and neither would be wiser to other.

      My fist sales weren't a scam, but it was a shiny object product offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit Traveler
    Building on a new domain. I like the freshness of the project but the tedious stuff...insert scream here.

    Just picking the right theme was no small feat.

    Went to check the news real quick and had to click a Daniel Negreanu and Phil Ivey video.

    Watching people make reads on the competition and winning or losing hundreds of thousands of dollars in minutes...that's infotainment!
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  • Profile picture of the author DABK
    I think that is an understatement. I think many do not think they need funds and that not much time will be required.

    Saw many buy turnkey solutions for $19 and then complained that they did not make any money though they spent 6 it 8 hours trying (with trying never defined).

    In the States, there is an organization that matches retired business owners, managers, experts, with people who have business questions.

    For free.

    I wish everyone wanting to start a business online would consult with them or, at least, fill out their free business plan template.

    They are at www.score.org.

    They can match you with a mentor too.
    Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post


    A best guess judged on the last 20 years is that most come UNDERFUNDED to actually begin a business. Which is why IM is so attractive in the first place, one doesn't need much.

    But in the 20+ year archives here they will find a central theme, which goes: if you don't have money to invest in your IM, then you must invest TIME.



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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    Gordon - yeah, I need to focus on the low hanging fruit and climb higher as momentum builds. I definitely see what you are saying, I'm over here wanting to build the entire buffet... might want to start with an appetizer, for sure!

    That lady's artwork is awesome, my wife likes doing Indian beads, jewelry, and similar projects - she never really sold any of it, but the selling the "how to step-by-step" PDF that's an awesome way to utilize the time it takes - as I am sure she puts TIME into her artwork, which is phenomenal.

    Stole wife's baking clock/timer for now... I could just use my phone - but there is definitely a NEED to stop being distracted on non-productive activities.

    Thanks!

    PS- for the record, I have already "listened" to Pressfield's "The War of Art" twice... "Turning Pro" once, as those were available on YouTube audiobooks. I have the PDF on my desktop for reference... still blown away, felt like he was talking directly to me, lol.

    [EDIT] - That's a trip...somebody likeed my post and thanked me with a weird name, and I looked it up - it was a automated pool cleaner - like what we call Navigators, Barracudas, Nautilus, and Kreepy's... there's so many now, it's almost stupid. I was upset when I had planned to "pitch" my kid a business that I'd help him learn and run...we'd both make money... Anderson Electronic Leak detection Kits or Leaktronics Electronic Leak Detections kits, they are not cheap... but there is "Mullah" in the leak location and repair departments, as well. Most the pools I built (really all of them were gunite or shotcrete - steel caged permanent structure). I was trying to steer clear of those markets...now you "triggered me" - wait-a-minute... hold on, LOL

    As Hilly at CBGB's in the Bowery (*his country musician bar, lol) said; whenever punk rocker's like Blondie, Talking Heads, Ramones, and people Iggy Pop played...he kept saying; "there is something there, there is definitely something there!" - he is like the Godfather of punk music... too funny, pivot!
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  • Profile picture of the author UltraOne
    This is a very long thread, yet very brilliant I must say. If I could share what I want to say, it would take me 100s of comments to address this properly, knowing that this is something has been going on for a decade, not only because you have said it, but I too have observed it.

    In today's market, it's more important than ever to know how to market yourself. This means being able to sell your skills and experience to potential clients in a way that sets you apart from the competition. One way to do this is to learn how to interview yourself.

    This involves taking the time to reflect on your accomplishments and qualities, and then communicating them in a clear and concise manner. It may seem daunting at first, but with a little practice, you'll be able to market yourself like a pro. And who knows, you might just land your first client in the process.

    That being said, we will have to accept that, success is not for everyone, not everyone a self-motivated. Everybody wants to make money yesterday, and so am I, but then so what? It doesn't grow on a tree, it takes time, and time is your only enemy at this stage once you believe your true potential.

    There is so much information out there I know, that's why I say, always go back to basics, take a break, start fresh, go somewhere to clear your head, otherwise you will only be dealing with an overwhelmed mind, which is something you want to avoid to get to what you want.



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    • Profile picture of the author GordonJ
      Thanks Adam,

      I think clearing your head is very good advice.

      How that is done, is, however a whole nuther can of worms. Some might be able to take one day off and just stare at a blank piece of paper and record their thoughts as they attack a quiet mind.

      It would be great if one day of silence, solitude and self introspection would do the trick.
      Here at WF, we see years of self analysis, without any action to it.

      But erase the chalk board, start with a clean slate, and look forward to what you want...what would a person write on that just cleaned blackboard?

      What would help them clear their minds and get them to focus?

      GordonJ

      Originally Posted by UltraOne View Post

      This is a very long thread, yet very brilliant I must say. If I could share what I want to say, it would take me 100s of comments to address this properly, knowing that this is something has been going on for a decade, not only because you have said it, but I too have observed it.

      In today's market, it's more important than ever to know how to market yourself. This means being able to sell your skills and experience to potential clients in a way that sets you apart from the competition. One way to do this is to learn how to interview yourself.

      This involves taking the time to reflect on your accomplishments and qualities, and then communicating them in a clear and concise manner. It may seem daunting at first, but with a little practice, you'll be able to market yourself like a pro. And who knows, you might just land your first client in the process.

      That being said, we will have to accept that, success is not for everyone, not everyone a self-motivated. Everybody wants to make money yesterday, and so am I, but then so what? It doesn't grow on a tree, it takes time, and time is your only enemy at this stage once you believe your true potential.

      There is so much information out there I know, that's why I say, always go back to basics, take a break, start fresh, go somewhere to clear your head, otherwise you will only be dealing with an overwhelmed mind, which is something you want to avoid to get to what you want.



      Regards,
      Adam
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      • Profile picture of the author UltraOne
        Well, probably I will sound now like my gran ma, but we only get this wisdom from old people. When it feels like the workday is dragging on and we can't focus on anything, it might be time for a mental break. Mental break is needed now than anytime before, taking a few minutes to ourselves - even if it's just to step away from our desk - can help clear our mind and allow us to focus when we return to work.

        If possible, people got to try to get outside for some fresh air and natural light. A short walk or simply sitting in the sunshine can help refresh our mind and body.

        If we can't get away from our desk, take a few deep breaths and focus on something in the room that isn't work-related, such as a plant or a piece of art. Clearing our minds for even a few minutes can help us feel more relaxed and better able to focus when we return to our work.


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        Adam


        Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

        Everyday scores of people discover the Warrior Forum and are excited to find a place where they can learn about making money with Internet Marketing (IM).

        Excited, maybe overwhelmed with information, uncertain of what to do, who to follow or listen to and what their next step is going to be.

        A best guess judged on the last 20 years is that most come UNDERFUNDED to actually begin a business. Which is why IM is so attractive in the first place, one doesn't need much.

        But in the 20+ year archives here they will find a central theme, which goes: if you don't have money to invest in your IM, then you must invest TIME.

        And, all too often, they don't have that either. They NEED to start making money, like yesterday. They lack the time to learn. And so their journey begins.

        Some may be here 5 years, or even 10 and will still post up about this, that or the other thing they SHOULD do, having never earned anything but pennies during their time here.

        Could be sad for those who care.

        So, hopefully, this new thread on MINDSET as it relates to WF and making money will serve as a GO spot or a starting point on their personal monopoly game board.

        As your piece sits on GO, before you roll your dice, try to understand the following:

        You don't get paid for doing nothing.

        Write that down. Only say, "I won't get paid for doing nothing." Write it out and put in on your computer or on the back of your cell. It is a fact of IM.

        So, if it is true, and if you doubt it, let us know why you think it is a false premise, OK?

        IF you don't get paid for doing nothing, then look at what you can DO to get paid.

        Start with the idea of being PAID. A payment is made in exchange for goods or services provided and when both parties agree on a value.

        All business is based on transactions. A simple one would be having your bike for sale in your front yard, with a sign with price, and someone stopping and buying it giving you what you have asked.

        That is a simple transaction, a one off. Now if you have a basement full of bikes, then maybe you just put the next one in the yard and wait for it to sell.

        A TRANSACTION is when VALUE (most often money or currency) is exchanged, but money is not the only means of making the exchange. Maybe instead of cash they offer you a game for your bike and if it is something you want and feel it is a fair exchange, you send the bike down the road and go play your new game.

        OK. So, you have to DO something to get paid.

        You have to offer either a product or a service. That actually is the easy part, you may have a basement full of bikes, but you live in the country where only a few cars a day pass by.

        What can you do to sell those bikes?

        Well, maybe you can take them to town, distribute them to a few retail places, and offer a COMMISSION for selling the bikes, in the real world this is known as CONSIGNMENT, online in IM it is mostly seen via AFFILIATE marketing, and eCom has exploded under this concept. Getting other people to sell your goods and services for you. It is a HOT IM concept. And often it is one of the very first that a new Warrior will look at. It appears easy because:

        You don't have to find a product or service to sell. That is the good news about affiliate marketing. The bad news is, like your bikes in different retail locations on consignment, they are only one of thousands of other products these merchants may be offering. Your bike could sit in a consignment shop for months, and maybe it would have sold quicker out in the country.

        But maybe you want to REPAIR bikes which are given to you or you buy dirt cheap, they have a lot more VALUE if you fix them and then sell them. You want to provide the service of fixing bikes.

        You want to DO something. In IM there are many sites, including the WF sister site, Freelancer dot com. This site is like Fiverr and Upwork, Guru, and 99designs and other places where you can offer your services on a contract basis.

        Graphics, web site design, Search Engine Optimization (SEO), copywriting, content, video, audio are a few of the many choices you have to be a service provider. And this may suit your talents better, but the catch or problem with service providers, you have to have SOMEONE (a prospect) who will become your customer and exchange value with you.

        Getting customers is the HARD part, and with a dozen or more sites offering service providers, you may find yourself competing against thousands of others, many of them with portfolios of past work, so it may sound easier to provide a service rather than get into selling products, but the challenges are mostly the same...FINDING A BUYER.

        Many new Warriors are like the guy in the country with his bike in the front yard, and only a few cars a day pass by to see it. And it doesn't take long for this new to IM person to start to look for alternatives.

        So what is a good beginning MINDSET for the New Warrior and for any seasoned Warrior who hasn't yet achieved some form of independence with their IM?

        ONE way of THINKING, other than how can I quickly and easily make some fast cash, is to ask yourself what you bring to the party? What skills, knowledge, experience do you have BEFORE you even begin your IM? And probably more important, what do you like or love to do?

        We see it a lot, FOLLOW YOUR PASSION, the money will follow. Sounds good. Great advice, but it doesn't help the majority who need to start making money as soon as is possible.

        So the mind becomes conflicted, and a conflicted, confused or overwhelmed MIND may be the very first piece of work you have to do.

        And before one even gets into how his thoughts got there, and the belief she has, a reckoning or a settling of your thoughts and a focus on first, getting your thinking under your control...BEFORE you act on any given IM venture.

        Your thoughts?

        GordonJ
        Originally Posted by GordonJ View Post

        Thanks Adam,

        I think clearing your head is very good advice.

        How that is done, is, however a whole nuther can of worms. Some might be able to take one day off and just stare at a blank piece of paper and record their thoughts as they attack a quiet mind.

        It would be great if one day of silence, solitude and self introspection would do the trick.
        Here at WF, we see years of self analysis, without any action to it.

        But erase the chalk board, start with a clean slate, and look forward to what you want...what would a person write on that just cleaned blackboard?

        What would help them clear their minds and get them to focus?

        GordonJ
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          A room full of cigar smokers, not a place to spend a lot of time in, if you like to breathe fresh air.

          So, you could open a window. Rid the room of smoke, a little fresh air, then close it and it builds back up.

          I guess we have a difference of opinion about clearing our heads. Taking little breaks like you suggest, yet going back to the same place, facing the same situations, problems and anxieties isn't going to be helpful.

          CLEARING our minds of the junk thinking, the negativity, the worry, the anxiety...takes a bit more effort than just getting some fresh air.

          See, here at the mind forum, we look at the reasons WHY, so many Warriors get bogged down, stuck in quicksand, or spinning their wheels in the mud digging deeper ruts.

          I suggest, they have to clear their minds by getting away from the cigar smoke (to mix my metaphors), give up smoking (bad habits) altogether, and that is not so easy...no walk in the park is going to do the trick.

          Although I do agree small breaks throughout the work day can help most...it doesn't do anything for those stuck in the trenches of their own creation.

          GordonJ


          Originally Posted by UltraOne View Post

          Well, probably I will sound now like my gran ma, but we only get this wisdom from old people. When it feels like the workday is dragging on and we can't focus on anything, it might be time for a mental break. Mental break is needed now than anytime before, taking a few minutes to ourselves - even if it's just to step away from our desk - can help clear our mind and allow us to focus when we return to work.

          If possible, people got to try to get outside for some fresh air and natural light. A short walk or simply sitting in the sunshine can help refresh our mind and body.

          If we can't get away from our desk, take a few deep breaths and focus on something in the room that isn't work-related, such as a plant or a piece of art. Clearing our minds for even a few minutes can help us feel more relaxed and better able to focus when we return to our work.


          Regards,
          Adam
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