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So i was reading some articles on how we humans learn and how information is stored permanently in our minds. I came across a very interesting piece that discussed how children learn very quickly up until the age of 5.


I became aware that movement while learning or being in a mobile state via running, working out or walking around actually increases learning ability 40 to 50 percent in adults.

As we are growing up we learn so rapidly up until 1st, 2nd and 3rd grade, when we are taught to sit down and be quiet. Because of this our rapid learning peek drops dramatically.

So whenever i am home studying, researching or listening to a new audio book, im in an active state with my body. The results are truly noticeable.

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  • Profile picture of the author Al-Leyson
    Nice! I will definitely try this while working!
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    • Profile picture of the author richporr
      There is an interesting quote in the history of education literature concerning the setup of public schools. The quote was, "We will train them to the factory bell."


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      • Profile picture of the author mobiusman
        Originally Posted by richporr View Post

        There is an interesting quote in the history of education literature concerning the setup of public schools. The quote was, "We will train them to the factory bell."

        Yes, that is it exactly. Turns out the entire school system was set up by industrialists who needed bodies for their factories. When the kids grew up and eventually got there they would have been motivated by carrots and sticks for so long already that they'd fit right in.

        Perfect little automatons working away for a pay-cheque till they could work no more.

        Got this out of Dan Pinks great new book "Drive" (DanPink.com)

        Rich, "Where did you find the "We will train them..." quote? I'm doing a book and video on this (human motivation) subject and could use the reference if you have it.

        Good stuff. Thanks

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    • Profile picture of the author mobiusman
      Originally Posted by stevenhank View Post

      Another interesting tidbit.. our IQ stays the same, for the most part, at the age of 7.
      Great tidbit Steven.
      Can you get me the link to the document that talked about that?

      Maybe I'll use it in my video.


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  • Profile picture of the author mobiusman
    Originally Posted by RyanLima View Post

    So i was reading some articles on how we humans learn and how information is stored permanently in our minds. I came across a very interesting piece that discussed how children learn very quickly up until the age of 5.

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    Great info. I'm writing a script for a video on the subject of motivation so this is very timely.

    Can you send me the article you we're reading? It would be greatly appreciated.

    By the way. I have a new theory about how and why the learning ability in humans is so greatly reduced at about this age.

    There is an incredibly insidious schema that's foisted on the very young and no one has ever at any time complained about or identified it. In fact they think it's good for them to have it because they (the adults) have it too.

    It's almost a Dracula-type effect except it's not scary and it's not fiction.

    Thanks for the help.

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  • Profile picture of the author mrjasonser
    Come to think of it, I now realized why my best ideas always comes from my walk after work to the metro station.

    I have a cousin who studied education once telling me that the very 1st 10 years of education should be called General Education where we pretty much give the kids an "open" policy where they have the freedom to explore and express in almost whatever ways they can imagine. "Vocational Education" should only begin when their traits and character is somehow set. But for most parent, especially in Asia, a child was often told what kind of vocation they should be in as young as kindergarden.
    I remember the very 1st [My Ambition for Life] essay I wrote at school. Parents tend to correct, if not "manipulate" their kids mind whenever they wanted to do something that won't fit into the expectation of their dad and mom. Guess what is the TOP 3 vocation Asian Parent like their kids to have? Doctor, Lawyer and Teacher!

    I often felt something "no right" about what everybody wrote during that time. Only when I become much older I can understand what I felt....the world is not only made up of Doctors, Lawyers and Teachers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Paule123
    Now that might be a good thing to try.

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  • Profile picture of the author lostarts
    Interesting thread. I made a note about this very thing in my journal last night, believe it or not. As a young man, I've always felt this urge deep within my bones to get up and move before I complete something. I never really understood why. That feeling persists to this day.

    I think there are several unique learning styles out there, so the suggestion by mrjasonser's cousin sounds like it would benefit the education system a great deal.
    On that note, there is a video & book out there about this very topic. The fact that the government has deliberately manipulated the system to produce automatons to serve their needs. I posted the video on my posterous blog, which you can see here:
    Charlotte Iserbyt - Deliberate Dumbing Down of the World - Lloyds preposterous

    In the post I also have the link to Charlotte Iserbyt's book, if anyone is interested. Mobius Man, this might be beneficial to your research, but I can't say for sure.

    Robert Anton Wilson speaks about this to some extent as well. Basically says that IQ increases till about the age of 7, then we can begin to see the effect of the school system gradually eroding this effect.

    I've done some research on the topic, and have discovered a brain training exercise which is proven to increase IQ. Check out my site or PM me if anyone is interested in knowing more about it.

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  • Profile picture of the author nyrsimon
    So I always have audio books, podcasts etc on my iPod when I run. Here's something real funny, I can tell you WHERE I was in the run when I heard something.

    What I mean is if I heard about this great website xxx I know I was at the top of Road blah when I heard that. Interesting how the brain links the information together.

    I also think everybody should spend some time working out how THEY learn. We all respond to different styles of learning. I read a book called "Peak Learning" some years ago which helps you map out your personal learning style

    Also Brian Tracy's Maximum Achievement was useful

    I view learning to learn like learning to type quickly or learning speed reading: we all know we SHOULD do them but only about 1% of us do. However the payback is enormous (you do the math!)

    So yes spend some time upgrading YOUR PERSONAL operating system. Are you still running DOS 1.0 or are you on the spiffy latest version of the greatest operating system?

    Just my un-caffeinated thoughts, dang I need more coffee!!!

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  • Profile picture of the author Tonio Smith
    This is not a accurate cause of the decrease in learning although I must agree that the teaching that we have nowadays needs to be changed. The truth of the matter is biologically we learn quicker up until the age of five because we need to need to learn as much as we can to survive in this world of the time you hit five we have learned enough quick enough to survive in our synapses start to form differently so that we can gain more in depth abstract knowledge.

    By no means am I disagreeing that the schooling system must be changed.
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  • definitely true, one can also be a quick learner if they are interested to know on something
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  • Profile picture of the author mary_k
    do you know if this has any relation to the fact that many people have the urge to pace around or fidget with stuff when trying to brainstorm new ideas and plans? i don't know about you guys, but i personally can't sit still when trying to come up with an idea, it just feels awkward.
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  • Profile picture of the author SilentX
    Yes, there is a lot wrong with our school system in the US (I assume you were talking about the US's system). If you want to learn about a really intelligent and affective way that was created to teach children in a very free, very democratic, very creative way, I'd suggest reading, Summerhill: A Radical Approach to Child Rearing, by Alex Neill. He believed that the school should be fitted to the child's needs, and not the other way around. Naturally this is a very difficult task for large, underfunded, public schools, but I think it is something that should be striven for. Anyone interested in child rearing should definitely read this book, as it has many MANY wonderful insights into child psychology.
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  • Profile picture of the author HugoG
    This is a very awesome article, because I have always been intrigued in how to learn faster so you can quickly learn more and more. As you can see I am information junkie. But this is really a great idea. I will definitely try it out.

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  • Profile picture of the author grannywriteswell
    I agree with Mary_K about having to move when I am explaining ideas, or trying to fit things together in my head - I also have my best ideas when I am moving around, walking on the beach, playing with my grandchildren and things like that - it has gotten so bad I take an MP3 recorder with me wherever I go so that I don't forget them - I think I am known in my area as 'that eccentric old lady that keeps talking into her hand" because of course the device is so small

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  • Profile picture of the author JulioJ
    Wow!!! My first day in here and I love this discussion. I definitely agree with having to move around while I learn. My best idea's evolve while I'm running or on the Wii. Fantastic Forum
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    • Profile picture of the author DawnMarie
      This reminds me - I used to do my best studying when walking or driving to school. Yes, while I was the one behind the wheel of the car (sorry other drivers!)

      While driving the 15 miles to school, I would read over my notes for the test that day. My memory become almost photographic, in that I read it once and had it down cold. I'd ace the test or come close, but within 24 hours the info was gone.

      Not sure why studying while driving worked, unless it was just the last minute do or die stress that had all systems working at optimal level.

      But casual studying done while walking was quite effective, too. Maybe it's all the blood flowing, bringing extra oxygen, that helps to form the new connections in the brain?
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  • Profile picture of the author jushuaburnham
    Interesting! A good thing to try.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brian Kerr
    A friend of mine, straight A student all through college at UC Berkeley would run around his house in his underwear while reading his text books, speaking out loud... Weird, but incredibly effective.

    A key part is to put yourself in a situation of uncomfortableness, if your not uncomfortable you probably are not growing or learning.
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  • Profile picture of the author derrickschwan
    Pretty good read, thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author justdave
    This is pretty interesting , got to give this a try and let you guys know how it works for me
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    • Profile picture of the author Iyvn
      So your basically claiming that school slows down learning because people aren't as active as they should be. I don't think this is the case. I don't know if what I say is true or not, I'm just going on my common sense here.

      I think children younger than 5 years old learn quicker than children older than 5 because of their brains. We humans reach the maximum amount of neurons we will ever have at around this age, and from then on our number of neurons in our brain are slowly decreasing.

      Children have a "blank slate" when they enter the world (or so it seems, apart from inherent instincts and subconscious bodily functions), and are naturally curious about the world around them. They have a surplus of these neurons, and it should be easier for them to learn things. They use up unused neurons to weave in different memories at appropriate instances.

      Unused or depreciated neurons would be discarded over time as evolution by natural selection would suggest. Our brains are very expensive to maintain, costing 25% of our total energy expenditure while only being 2% of the body's total body mass. We can expect a 1st, 2nd or 3rd grader to have less neurons than the child in pre school, depending where our peak in neuron numbers occurs.

      To emphasise this we can observe infants and language. Most English raised children would have trouble pronouncing African or Asian phonetics, yet they have no trouble doing this with the English language when starting out.

      As a baby, you will have an easier time pronouncing the language spoken in the environment you were raised because you have heard it frequently. The neurons that control speech and sounds will appreciate or depreciate depending on the being's surroundings. Being able to pronounce Arabic symbols is pretty useless in a predominately English nation, and so on.

      As for physical activity, it might be plausible. Again I do not know much about the subject, but I can see how the increase of oxygenated blood reaching the brain from exercise could increase brain efficiency. Being physically active will also increase your overall health, the brain included.

      Consuming larger amounts of Omega 3 and avoiding trans-fats is also supposed to be good for the brain in making neural pathways.

      Exercising while learning is dumbfounding to me though. Yes, listening to a lecture on an Ipod while while taking a fast paced stroll is easy performed. I do it quite a lot. When it comes to learning through reading or writing, things may be more difficult. Writing/typing is out of the question. Reading could be done but it would take a while to get used to. I think workouts are good for thinking and pondering about the world, but by no extent is it a replacement of school.

      "The results are truly noticeable" This may be placebo. You would need a scientific, objective test performed on this claim. Be careful that it is not in fact your perception that exercise is good for learning that motivates you to learn more.

      P.S crazy school conspiracy people; I am not from America, so I have no physical experience of an American school, but nether-less your claims are ridiculous. I only skimmed though the responses to this post but from what I saw, you think that school is intentionally trying to make factory workers. There's a plethora of reasons why this is wrong but I won't go into them. But if the schools really wanted factory workers, it makes sense to make smart factory workers. Just sayin'.
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