Are You Prepared To Dance Until It Rains?

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Hi guys,

I was recently re-reading Vic Johnson's "Day By Day With James Allen", which is a collection of e-meditations on some of James Allen's quotes and teachings from As A Man Thinketh.

A part that really blew my hair back(the third time I read it) was about persistence. Johnson mentions a story he heard about a tribe in Africa "that confounded all of the anthropologists. It seems that this tribe has for centuries enjoyed a 100% success rate with its rain dance. In comparing this tribe to other tribes who did rain dances but who didn't always experience success, the experts couldn't find anything that differentiated the one tribe. They performed the same rituals, praying the same incantations to the same gods, in the same costumes. Like all the tribes, they sometimes danced for days, even weeks on end. Finally an astute observer noticed something very telling. The successful tribe did one thing - and only one thing -different than the other tribes. It ALWAYS danced UNTIL it rained!"

So, the real question becomes, can you really fail if you never quit?

The answer for my life would be that persistence, accompanied by a belief in what I'm doing, inevitably leads to success.

I see a lot of people quit as soon as they hit the first bump on the road, which is really no way to go about building a business or income.

Your thoughts on this?

Cheers,

Josip
#dance #prepared #rains
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  • Profile picture of the author David Louis Monk
    I was often puzzled when Jesus said " If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."

    However, I have come to understand that if you have eternity then nothing is impossible.
    The same idea can be found in the Chinese proverb which says "The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying a way small stones".

    How long would it take you to literally remove a mountain by carrying away small stones? Time seems to be our main limitation. At least in this lifetime it is.

    The other quote I like is that of Benjamin D'Israeli who when asked how he succeded when others could not do what he had done said; " Nothing can resist a will which will stake even it's existence upon its fulfillment." In other words; " I will do this if it kills me".

    You read of examples of people quitting on the verge of success while others persist and, despite all the odds, break through to their success.

    In contrast to all this persistence and achievement I have to say; "what is the purpose of it all"?
    Like the writer of Ecclestiastes; "I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit".

    I am not drawing any conclusions from this, just adding what I think to the mix in this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author reynor
    Hi Josip,


    I failed once. Stood up. And made it on the second try.
    Yes, in the end whoever sticks will make it. Two thumbs up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Josip Barbaric
      Originally Posted by David Louis Monk View Post

      The other quote I like is that of Benjamin D'Israeli who when asked how he succeded when others could not do what he had done said; " Nothing can resist a will which will stake even it's existence upon its fulfillment." In other words; " I will do this if it kills me".
      I think there would be a lot less sadness in the world if people believed this much in themselves and in what they do. And ultimately, they would get things done!

      Originally Posted by reynor View Post

      Hi Josip,


      I failed once. Stood up. And made it on the second try.
      Yes, in the end whoever sticks will make it. Two thumbs up.
      AWESOME!!! Two thumbs up for you

      Cheers,

      Josip
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  • Profile picture of the author ucajack
    What a thread josip! really enjoyed reading it ,so very motivating.I have this uncanny thread to give up at the first road block.i have often find myself unable to achieve even smallest of objectives because of this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Josip Barbaric
      Originally Posted by ucajack View Post

      What a thread josip! really enjoyed reading it ,so very motivating.I have this uncanny thread to give up at the first road block.i have often find myself unable to achieve even smallest of objectives because of this.
      I was like this for a very long time. It was when I saw my life for what it really was that I decided: NO MORE!

      May the joy be with you,

      Josip
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  • Profile picture of the author James Fried
    Originally Posted by Josip Barbaric View Post

    It ALWAYS danced UNTIL it rained!"

    So, the real question becomes, can you really fail if you never quit?

    The answer for my life would be that persistence, accompanied by a belief in what I'm doing, inevitably leads to success.

    I see a lot of people quit as soon as they hit the first bump on the road, which is really no way to go about building a business or income.

    Your thoughts on this?

    Cheers,

    Josip
    I love this quote. I find myself dancing and quiting, dancing and quiting every single day.

    The key for me is getting up and doing it again the next day.

    Thanks for sharing this post.
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    Originally Posted by Josip Barbaric View Post


    So, the real question becomes, can you really fail if you never quit?
    Very Powerful. Love this!

    It makes me think. If we do everything we could possibly do to achieve a particular goal, could we every really be stopped? Wow. This makes me think...
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    • Profile picture of the author ucajack
      Thanks Josip for your good wishes.this thread really pepped me up and i am determined now to dance until it rains. will share the results of my efforts in this thread.
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      • Profile picture of the author Josip Barbaric
        Originally Posted by James Fried View Post

        I love this quote. I find myself dancing and quiting, dancing and quiting every single day.

        The key for me is getting up and doing it again the next day.

        Thanks for sharing this post.
        My pleasure. Yes, it's all about getting up again. I love this quote from Batman Begins, where Bruce Wayne has fallen into a hole and hurt himself:

        Alfred Pennyworth: Took quite a fall, didn't we, Master Bruce?
        Thomas Wayne: And why do we fall, Bruce? So we can learn to pick ourselves up.

        Originally Posted by Etak View Post

        Very Powerful. Love this!

        It makes me think. If we do everything we could possibly do to achieve a particular goal, could we every really be stopped? Wow. This makes me think...
        It sometimes hits me that we humans really don't know anything about how much personal power we possess! But, there are plenty of examples out there of people who have risen above all expectations and shattered beliefs of what can be done.

        Originally Posted by ucajack View Post

        Thanks Josip for your good wishes.this thread really pepped me up and i am determined now to dance until it rains. will share the results of my efforts in this thread.
        All the best to you, my friend!

        Cheers,

        Josip
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi Josip,

    I like this analogy!

    Keep going until you get to your goal. You choose whether to stop going or continue until you've reached it.

    The funny thing about obstacles is that they were designed to propel you forward, not stop you. Those who learn to take the seed or growth from any obstacle moves forward quickly. They keep dancing no matter how much they hurt because they know that pain is a driver like no other.

    Thanks for sharing

    Ryan
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  • Profile picture of the author silverwaterfall
    Excellent topic and point. This does indeed inspire me to keep dancing!
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    • Profile picture of the author Josip Barbaric
      Originally Posted by ryanbiddulph View Post

      The funny thing about obstacles is that they were designed to propel you forward, not stop you.
      Exactly! This is what most people, to their own misfortune, just don't understand.

      Originally Posted by silverwaterfall View Post

      Excellent topic and point. This does indeed inspire me to keep dancing!
      Keep dancing, friend, keep dancing...

      Cheers,

      Josip
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  • Profile picture of the author __internet__
    I think persistence is the key to success. I also think you need a vision where you actually see yourself succeeding. You need inner confidence and strength to take failures and turn them into a learning experience.

    I'm 21, and every month I have my mom complaining to me how she thinks I'm never going to make a lot of money online. I've been doing internet marketing for 2 years now, and I have a couple businesses that I'm sure will eventually make me a lot of money online. I'm never giving up. Unfortunately, I'm going to be getting away from my family when I do start making a lot of money.

    Nothing is worse than not supporting your own kids. I have to deal with this all the time. It's very sad.

    The average person does not understand how to make money. They go to work at a local job, and they make average pay. They complain about how they hate their jobs, yet they never do anything about it. This is something that I've never wanted to do.

    Strong people can outlast the criticism from average people and use it to make themselves stronger. My task will eventually be accomplished, regardless of what anyone else thinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author yianni
      i commend those of you who are coming from challenging circumstances, stay focused, and keep going!
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
    Wow.....Love this post.....thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

    I am going to wake up each morning and say to myself....."I'm going to dance until it rains"!!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author hally0301
    great post josip.

    i find it mildly amusing sometimes that people that have not yet experienced the success in life they are looking for, have this illusion that successful people don't get knocked down.

    and so the first time they get knocked down they quit.

    a wise man once said 'True success comes from getting up one more time than you get knocked down'.

    so, if you are down GET UP.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sprite0803
      What a very inspiring post! This is just what I need to have some hope back. It truly is hard to get back up once you failed. It's nice to know that there are still a lot of people who have made it despite the setbacks that they've encountered.
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  • Profile picture of the author scottpickard
    ALWAYS dance until it rains - what a great analogy.....and i ABSOLUTELY agree. You hear this consistently but very rarely do people follow through on it on a daily basis. But you can see why - no results after a period of time and people get frsutrated and move on, it is human nature. Life gets in the way and things that are creating pain versus pleasure get shelved. As they should.

    Personally, I struggle with this regularly and have ups and downs. Aside from my online life, I run an software company (my fourth) and every day at some point I feel like cancelling the RAIN DANCE and taking a break. Staff issues, customer issues, operational issues - there is always something going on...... BUT....... to pay the price makes the reward more worth it in the end. The results will come if you stay the course and stay in the dance. Don't become a bad statistic about one that failed. Your results for your life rest on your shoulders. What is the story of your life going to look like?

    Be Relentless,
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    • Profile picture of the author Maestrok12
      "In all your getting, get understanding" - Prov.4-7

      ...maybe people quit because they don't really have a belief or true understanding of purpose in what they are doing(attempting). If your motivation isn't rooted in your belief, regardless of what that belief is, you will not find the strength to dig in and actually "Dance til' it rains!"

      Yo, Josip, do you get to the states ever? If so pm me. Swing through Texas and me and the fellas will show you how Texas B-Ballers put it down!
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      • Profile picture of the author Josip Barbaric
        Originally Posted by Maestrok12 View Post

        Yo, Josip, do you get to the states ever? If so pm me. Swing through Texas and me and the fellas will show you how Texas B-Ballers put it down!
        I'm planning on coming to Nevada in January, for the Affiliate Summit, so that would be awesome!
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      • Profile picture of the author David Louis Monk
        Originally Posted by Maestrok12 View Post

        "In all your getting, get understanding" - Prov.4-7
        Good quote and I could add a little more "Happy is the man that finds wisdom and gets understanding"

        Could say more but unfortunately, the chosen quote is taken out of context and would be off topic anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author alexbbbh
    What is failure? Is there such a thing? And why not reframe it altogether?

    Simple put powerful frames of mind:
    1. Success is measured by the number of times you have failed.
    2. There is no failure, there are only setbacks.
    3. Failure is the way in which people test and find out what doesn't work so they can get to the things that do work faster.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordan JD
    Dear Josip,

    I sincerely thank you for this metaphor. I was pretty demoralized with my lack of success before read your article but now I ask myself:

    Am I willing to dance until it rains?

    And the only answer on my mind is, Yes, I am willing.

    JD
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    • Profile picture of the author Josip Barbaric
      Originally Posted by alexbbbh View Post

      What is failure? Is there such a thing? And why not reframe it altogether?

      Simple put powerful frames of mind:
      1. Success is measured by the number of times you have failed.
      2. There is no failure, there are only setbacks.
      3. Failure is the way in which people test and find out what doesn't work so they can get to the things that do work faster.
      I would say that failure is a matter of perspective. If you quit after a setback or when things don't go as you expected them to, you have created failure for yourself. But, if you learn from the experience and persist in your efforts, then failure becomes a learning experience and actually advances you and aids in your success.

      When I think of things that I am most grateful for in my life, I can't help but to think of some personal disasters or "failures", because they helped shape me into the person I am today.

      Originally Posted by Jordan JD View Post

      Dear Josip,

      I sincerely thank you for this metaphor. I was pretty demoralized with my lack of success before read your article but now I ask myself:

      Am I willing to dance until it rains?

      And the only answer on my mind is, Yes, I am willing.

      JD
      JD, your words truly bring a sense of joy to my heart. Success is inevitable if you persist!

      All the best,

      Josip
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg Jacobs
    well the core point is that the successful man, has already achieved his goal before he has even started.

    , this is something that cannot be taught nor learned, bought nor sold. it just has to manifest into knowledge though personal experience.
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    • Profile picture of the author Josip Barbaric
      Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs View Post

      well the core point is that the successful man, has already achieved his goal before he has even started.
      Yes, this is one of the most important things to realize, and it's one that few people actually get. Just like the way you can't get happy later, only now...

      PEACE!

      Josip
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisowen
    The Funny thing about those speed bumps you hit early on, is that they seem like mountains at the time. And then once you have passed them and think back. They most times weren't big problems at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author 10 Pounds Slimmer
    Agreed. Persistance is key. I would only add that the key is to take one step at a time. And make every step a successful one. Before you know it, you're where you want to be.
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  • Profile picture of the author abbie kye
    Fantastic post, very inspirational. Thanks to everyone for contributing. I like this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Josip Barbaric
      Here is James Allen's original quote from The Mastery Of Destiny that inspired Vic Johnson to write about persistence:

      "Great is the heartfelt joy when, after innumerable and apparently unsuccessful attempts, some ingrained fault of character is at last cast out to trouble its erstwhile victim and the world no more."

      Awesome!

      Josip
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