Can anyone read this?

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I wonder if you can read this message.

Before you answer the question, please allow me to clarify what I mean.

What does it mean to read a message and understand it really? I don't mean seeing the words and passively listening as your inner voice reads them.

But rather, to really have a clear mind that is awake and understands what is being said. To actively participate in the conversation.

To do this, you must be completely free from beliefs, ideas, concepts and any sort of attachment whatsoever. You mustn't bring anything at all to it.

One sign you can't read a message clearly is if you have to go back and read what you just read. This is the hallmark of an agitated, distracted mind.

Another sign is that you are constantly measuring what you are reading against something in your memory, like whether or not what you're reading matches up with what you believe, or whether it jives with what some expert you trust has said, or whatever the case may be.

That is not real understanding. If you approach any writing, or really anything at all in life in that way, you have blinders on... a sort of filter of awareness that is intrinsically ignorant.

So what does it mean to be able to really read this message? If you find that out, you won't ever need to make an effort at anything ever again. (To understand how that is true requires a very deep understanding of what it means to make an effort. I'm not making a promise of utopia, but rather pointing out the true nature of effort and by implication of identity.)

You won't need to write out a sheet of goals, you won't need to meditate, you won't need to put any effort into becoming anything better or arriving someday at so called "success". And the successes you do choose to enjoy will come with shocking ease and enjoyment.

Unfortunately I can't say what this state of being is... I can only say what it is not. Similar to how a sculptor who has a vision chisels away what his vision is not out of the stone he's working on, so that you as the audience can see what it is.

But it is much easier to transmit the how-to of it in person. I wonder if any of you would be interested in learning this or think it'd be a good idea for a business, to teach real meditation that would actually wake people up so that they could see clearly? Who would be interested in that? To be truly free of the rat race and be completely satisfied exactly where they were in life.

Not six-months from now when you've made your first $100.00 or $1000.00 online, not when you've finally achieved your weight loss goals, not when you've finally become able to be social and get attention from your sexual fancy... but right now. Here. Today. To be truly satisfied completely independent of arbitrary circumstance.

I wonder...
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  • Profile picture of the author Wonderful Warrior
    A conversation free from beliefs seems like there is no point of having conversation.

    If that is the point of this, then we might as well stay in bed all day, sleep, and wait to die.
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  • Profile picture of the author josephkerr
    You're right to say that a "conversation free from beliefs seems like there is no point of having conversation."

    But you make an unwarranted leap to say that if there's no point... that is to say, if an activity is pointless... then we may as well be vegetables.

    On the contrary, to understand the real pointlessness of our existence is to be completely liberated and free to enjoy ourselves.

    As a wise old man used to say, when you dance, you're not aiming at a particular point on the dance floor to arrive at.

    And so in this way, dancing is essentially "pointless". The point of it is just to do it. There's no ambition, there's no goal, the activity itself is complete.

    Because life is essentially musical, to learn to dance is to get with it. It should be noted that while I love music and dance, I'm speaking metaphorically here about the big picture.

    The truth is, so long as you hold your life hostage to beliefs, to goals, to ambition, to "success"... you're already asleep as you walk through your daily life. You're missing out on the whole of life by narrowing your attention to a realm of thought which is by nature ignorant.

    Only the man who is completely pointless, useless, and free from beliefs can even begin to be awake.

    It's the believers who are asleep.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lalaine
      Hi josephkerr,

      I think the "state of being" that you talked about in your original post is similar to what is called as "being in the flow", "being in the zone" or "being in the vortex".

      And you wrote "Only the man who is completely pointless, useless, and free from beliefs can even begin to be awake."

      What exactly do the words "pointless" and "useless" mean to you?
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      • Profile picture of the author josephkerr
        Hi Lalaine, I'm glad you asked!

        You're exactly right. Athletes have described this state as being in the zone, and it's been called "flow" too.

        You also asked, "What exactly do the words "pointless" and "useless" mean to you?"

        By these I mean simply: without purpose. Often we ask of things, well what's the point? Meaning... what are we getting out of this thing? What's in it for me?

        But the human being who is free from purpose sees right away that the idea of getting something out of life is completely absurd. To fully understand this, we've got to go very deeply into what it means to have a purpose, and I'm afraid that might take too much room in a single post.

        I've got a project in the works to teach this and it will ultimately become my life's work. If you're more interested you can PM me and I'd be happy to continue a dialog. : )
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  • Profile picture of the author Duncan
    Inner peace to achieve totally listening to yourself, and understanding something w/o biase is a state that is not possible. Everyone is reared with a belief system, and than in adolescence we inheriently develop your own.
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    • Profile picture of the author josephkerr
      The state you've described as not possible is basic meditation. But let's explore this together so that it makes sense. Never was much won from a game of "nuh-uh!" on an internet forum.

      What does it mean to have a belief? Or a system of beliefs? To have a belief is to approach reality with an image in mind. Whatever does not fit the image, gets ignored or condemned. What does match the image is celebrated and clung to. Does this make sense? I hope you see this.

      So... is it possible to have a life entirely free from belief? Don't answer the question verbally in your head right away... but really explore it. What would it mean to be free of images?

      To get these answers you've got to ask the questions of yourself, actively. Ask yourself, right now... what do the sounds around me sound like if I let them be just as they are? Sights? Feelings? Smells? Tastes? And probably the most challenging, thoughts?

      Can you totally observe your thoughts without judgement? Please do it for yourself. It's no use to read a bunch of words and come up with another belief about what or what not is possible.

      When you observe yourself completely, you'll see what I'm talking about straight away. There won't be any beliefs about what or what isn't possible that you'll cling to or conclusions that you'll use to comfort yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gary Pettit
    "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are possible in your philosohpy." But expanding one's awareness does not mean suspending all belief. (If it did, no one could ever expand, since suspending all belief and presupposition is not finally possible, even for infants.)

    P.S. The purpose of dancing is to woo women. ;-)
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