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Have you used subliminal recordings?

by AnneE
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Has anyone tried subliminal recordings to affect your mindset?

Or alternatively, has anyone researched whether these actually work?
#recordings #subliminal
  • Profile picture of the author James Foster
    Hi Anne,

    There's actually another thread about this a little further down...

    But yes, they do work.

    I've used the Paraliminal CD's many many times and find they work great.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurlie
      Originally Posted by James Foster View Post

      Hi Anne,

      There's actually another thread about this a little further down...

      But yes, they do work.

      I've used the Paraliminal CD's many many times and find they work great.
      I am a huge fan of Learning Strategies' Paraliminals and I have the full set. They are quite effective for me and do not require much of a time commitment.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chance2427
    Originally Posted by Skeptic's Dictionary

    The subliminal is below the liminal (the smallest detectable sensation).
    Anything truly below the level of detectable sensation could not, by definition, be perceived. However, the subliminal is generally said to be below the threshold of conscious perception. There is a widespread belief, not strongly supported by empirical research, that without being aware of its presence or content, a person's behavior can be significantly affected by subliminal messages. Thus, it is believed that one can influence behavior by surreptitiously appealing to the subconscious mind with words and images. If this were true, then advertisers could manipulate consumer behavior by hiding subliminal messages in their ads. The government, or Aunt Hilda for that matter, could control our minds and bodies by secretly communicating to us subliminally. Learners could learn while listening to music embedded with subliminal messages. Unfortunately, "...years of research has resulted in the demonstration of some very limited effects of subliminal stimulation" and no support for its efficaciousness in behavior modification (Hines, 312).
    The fact that there is almost no empirical support for the usefulness of subliminal messaging has not prevented numerous industries from producing and marketing tapes which allegedly communicate directly with the unconscious mind, encouraging the "listener" not to steal, or coaching the "listener" to have courage or believe in his or her power to accomplish great things. Consumers spend more than $50 million each year on subliminal self-help products (Journal of Advertising Research, reported by Dennis Love, Sacramento Bee, 9-14-2000). A place called Hypnotic tapes dot com offers a wide array of such tapes developed by James H. Schmelter, a hypnotherapist with an MBA and self-proclaimed expertise in synergistic science. If Schmelter's stuff is not to your liking, try Mindwriter subliminals.
    It is true that we can perceive things even though we are not conscious of perceiving them. However, for those who put messages in tapes and then record music over the messages so that the messages are drowned out by the music or other sounds, it might be useful to remember that if the messages are drowned out by other sounds, the only perceptions one can have are of the sounds drowning out the messages. There is no evidence of anyone hearing a message which is buried beneath layers of other sounds to the point where the message does not distinctly stand out. Of course, if the message distinctly stood out, it would not be subliminal.
    (hxxp://skepdic. com/subliminal.html)*

    Thousands of videotapes and audiotapes purported to contain repeated messages are being marketed with claims that they can help people: lose weight, stop smoking, enhance athletic performance, quit drinking, think creatively, raise IQ, make friends, reduce pain, improve vision, restore hearing, cure acne, conquer fears, read faster, speak effectively, handle criticism, relieve depression, enlarge breasts, and do many other things. At least one company has offered subliminal tapes for children, including a toilet-training tape for toddlers. Many tapes contain music said to promote relaxation. Most are claimed to contain messages that are inaudible or barely audible, but some are barely or fully audible. Videotapes may feature images, said to be relaxing, combined with repeated visual messages shown so briefly that they cannot be seen at normal playing speed.
    Many researchers have found that subliminal tapes provide no benefit to the user. One who tested tapes from several companies concluded that they contained no embedded messages that could conceivably influence behavior [1]. A research team tested volunteers for a study of tapes said to improve memory and self-esteem, but switched the tapes for half of the participants (to create a control group). Regardless of the tape used, about half of the volunteers claimed to achieve the results they were told to expect-but objective tests of memory and self-esteem showed no change [2]. A National Research Council committee has concluded that although many people claim that subliminal self-help tapes contribute to self-improvement, there is no scientific evidence to support such claims [3]. Thus there is no reason to believe that musical tapes with subliminal messages can do anything more for physical or mental well-being than listening to ordinary music. There is no scientific evidence that messages which cannot be heard are unconsciously or subconsciously perceived or can influence behavior [4].


    References:
    1. Merikle PM. Subliminal auditory messages: An evaluation. Psychology and Marketing 5:355-372, 1989.
    2. Greenwald AG, Spangenberg ER, Pratkanis AR. Double-blind tests of subliminal self-help audiotapes. Psychological Science 2:119-122, 1991.
    3. Bjork RA and others. In the Mind's Eye. Enhancing Human Performance. Washington D.C., 1991, National Academy Press.
    4. Moore TE. Subliminal perception: Facts and fallacies. Skeptical Inquirer 16:273-281, 1992.
    (hxxp://quackwatch. org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/mentprod.html)

    Etc...

    No proof, zero evidence for effectiveness of these quacks. Only untestable anecdotes from small % of people who think they got something from these tapes.

    * Sorry about "hxxp", can't post links yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author magnates
    I have actually . It worked but I did not like the idea of somebody else putting other thoughts in my head so I stopped and I found that I did not need to subliminal stuff anymore
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  • Profile picture of the author Phil Halloran
    No, they don't work. And if they did, they probably just subliminally convinced you that it work.

    Seriously, stuff like this really makes me laugh. The economy is great when you can sell 'subliminal' recordings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Solomon
    And how is it you know that for such fact, Phil? Did you ever use good ones for the needed time period in order to have a first hand experience, or what are you basing your claim on?
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  • Profile picture of the author BenKJunya
    I haven't used subliminal recordings, but that does sound extremely interesting!

    I actually took some hypnotherapy and studied a little bit of hypnotism. It's very interesting stuff and these subliminal recordings definitely go hand in hand with subliminal recordings. Have you ever heard of NLP or Neuro-linguistics Programming? It's pretty interesting as well and opens up a whole new world of language and self hypnotism and influence. Just Google NLP and it should pop up.

    As for questions, what are some subliminal recordings you guys like?
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  • Profile picture of the author HawkPrecision
    No, but I have the funniest story to show it works. I named some of my screennames 'mindwarrior.' For the longest time I didn't know how and the hell I came up with that name.

    I came back to the warrior forum recently and what do I see? In the self improvement section it says 'mind warriors.' I laughed so much when I seen that.

    Subliminals DO work. I had no idea where I got that name from until recently.

    I just thought it came from my imagination.
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  • Profile picture of the author stopper
    Subliminal messages I guess it is bound to work given sufficient time but then again I wouldn't be sure until I tried it out practically
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