Why I think self-discipline is better than motivation

12 years ago

I'm going to have to 100% agree on this. Self discipline = great work ethics. motivation = goals. People here are trying to perceive the fact that their motivation will help them create consistent action, but definitely that is not the case. Having a goal is one thing, but its definitely the self discipline that will get you places. Well said OP!

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LastingLifeSuccess

12 years ago

Humir, Hi. If you can promote better health choices and improved relationships through focusing on increasing personal self-discipline, I say, You Bet! Work that muscle.

Go for it big time and stay there as long as you can.

Best of luck to you,

LLS

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Plugin Profits

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Art of Marketing

I am thinking if we wanted to teach someone Self Discipline they will never embrace it without some sort of inner motivation within themselves.

People join the military but something motivates them to do that right?

Dieting takes motivation and self discipline. When a person gets up in the morning with dedication and exercises maybe they have a picture of something that is motivating them to do so.

So I just kinda think they go hand in hand.

For me at least.

-Art

Yeh true, there is a deeper motive for everything always. Without motive there can be no action, no decision on any direction.

Though where I see the difference between what we think of as motivation vs discipline is with discipline it's more about your long term values + commitment.

It's goals you carefully consider and set based on your values of what you want in life and what kind of person you want to be. Then you make a plan to achieve those goals cause they are what is best for your long term interests. Then you stick to those goals and the actions for them regardless of how you're feeling or what obstacles get in your way or what sacrifices you have to make for them.

You don't let things get in your way just cause they are unpleasant or difficult or uninspiring or you don't feel up to them etc. Instead you stay disciplined to your original commitment you set when you were thinking clearly about what you want and what is important to you to achieve.

If you instead base your actions or inactions around your motivations and what you feel motivated to do in the moment, having to always remotivate yourself to get yourself to do anything, then there's going to be all kinds of times where you don't stay the course or slack off. Then your basing what you do on your moods and if you can't feel good about what your doing or feeling the desire for the end goal in that moment, you slack off, procrastinate or worse, sabatoge it or change your goals based on new moods. You have no commitment, no responsibility.

Both is obviously best, though motivation simply is not always going to be there. We'll always have our ups and downs and not feeling good or feeling like doing things or feeling discouraged or demotivated cause of failures or doubts etc. So motivation without discipline is often what failures do. You have to first commit.

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onlinesolutions1985

12 years ago

I strongly agree!.. it will always starts in self discipline before u will be successful .. motivation will bring u closer to the desires u wanted to attain..

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RestlessBlaze

12 years ago

I think self discipline is most important thing. Motivation can kickstart you but to maintain momentum, you need self discipline

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mfuji55

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Humir Madrid

This is why I think self-discipline is better than motivation:

Self-discipline can be trained and improved over time. It's like a muscle, the more you use it the better it gets. You can train your self-discipline to masterful levels, to the point that whatever you need to do is as good as done.

If you rely on motivation, you're always gonna have highs and lows. I don't think you can train yourself to be motivated all the time. What goes up must come down. You're bound to hit a low motivational state, and if you don't have the self discipline, you probably won't get it done.

If you train your self discipline to higher levels, it has spill over effects to other areas. Let's say you set out to continuously improve your self discipline by incrementally working harder and longer in your business, the benefits of increased self discipline you get from that will have positive effects on making better health choices, and also improving your relationships.

I'm surprised that more people here talk about motivation than self discipline.

I think everyone should be training their self discipline, instead of seeking to motivate themselves.

you're absolutely right, self discipline is by far much better than motivation because motivation can be all about trying to beat others or win at something and once you've done so, your motivation dies. your motives are controlled by outside forces.

self discipline on the other hand is totally different, inspiration comes from within and you're not driven by others definition of success, you're driven by your own inner spirit that which tells you what makes you happy.

but that's the thing, self disciplne is something that should be taught in schools, but it's not for many reasons...

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Naeema Anum

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Humir Madrid

This is why I think self-discipline is better than motivation:

Self-discipline can be trained and improved over time. It's like a muscle, the more you use it the better it gets. You can train your self-discipline to masterful levels, to the point that whatever you need to do is as good as done.

If you rely on motivation, you're always gonna have highs and lows. I don't think you can train yourself to be motivated all the time. What goes up must come down. You're bound to hit a low motivational state, and if you don't have the self discipline, you probably won't get it done.

If you train your self discipline to higher levels, it has spill over effects to other areas. Let's say you set out to continuously improve your self discipline by incrementally working harder and longer in your business, the benefits of increased self discipline you get from that will have positive effects on making better health choices, and also improving your relationships.

I'm surprised that more people here talk about motivation than self discipline.

I think everyone should be training their self discipline, instead of seeking to motivate themselves.

I agree with you, because it's always self discipline, what pays off. If one is self disciplined it means that they they are taking action despite of being demotivated or motivated.

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datingworld

12 years ago

I'm surprised that more people here talk about motivation than self discipline.

Self discipline is very important in all aspects of life specially when you are after success. It is going to very difficult to be successful with out self discipline.

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Janice Sperry

12 years ago

I have disciplined myself to take a few minutes every morning to motivate myself for the day.

I say "disciplined myself" because when I first started I would have to force myself to do it. It felt a little hokey sometimes. Other times I was not in the mood or I would simply forget. I am glad I stuck with it.

I am not trying to be cute or funny. It works, at least for me, and is one of the most important things I do each day.

I guess the take away for me is that without self discipline I would never have become so good or consistent at motivating myself.

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joesfortune

12 years ago

But even self-discipline must have a purpose and that purpose will provide the motivation for self-discipline.

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natebunger

12 years ago

I think the two should go hand-in-hand. You need to have a purpose on why you are disciplining yourself and that can also be your motivation.

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emelef

12 years ago

You need the cart and the horse to move stuff

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Trey Morgan

12 years ago

I believe motivation can be powerful in short bursts but it doesn't really last. I have watched some of the most motivational videos and read some of the most motivational books but that motivation would still run out at some point. Usually it would run out by the next day or so.

Self-discipline on the other hand has allowed me to do things consistently without being highly motivated.

Motivation can be very powerful and allow you to do things at a faster rate and/or with higher energy but self-discipline allows you to do things on a daily basis at a consistent rate.

It is better to spend 2 hours on your business every day then to spend 8 hours on your business one day, then 5 minutes on your business the next day, then take a few days off, then come back and spend 2 hours on your business.

I believe self-discipline is crucial to success and it is a muscle than can be trained.

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shahbaby

12 years ago

I think you're over analysing, motivation is what gets you the self discipline

after that, I agree, self discipline is what helps you make it through the long haul

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John Jonas Phil VA

12 years ago

If success is a marathon, it's motivation gets you started and self discipline gets you to the finish line.

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sitback 12 years ago

Interesting post and answers.

I believe they go hand in hand.

Motivation is our reason for do something, we are motivated to achieve a goal because we want to achieve that goal. But when our enthusiasm waivers, or we just do not feel like working on our goal, it is self discipline that will ride us through those times.

Self discipline is a major factor of success in anything, and if we work a developing our discipline, then the better the results we will produce.

I agree with what you say "It's like a muscle, the more you use it the better it gets", and the less we use it, the more we lose it.

Regards
Rob
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Reddy20

12 years ago

You are motivated to discipline yourself. Doesn't it go like this?

Well, anyway I think one would not work without the other.

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BrianDavid

12 years ago

Well said. Self discipline is the structure that gets your plan accomplished. It's "forced motivation".

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rahmatID

12 years ago

sound nice, but some time more discipline make our tired and need something to relax,

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12 years ago

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blackbodhisattva

12 years ago

Excellent point Humir

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Raul Mellado

12 years ago

The way I see it, you need a higher motivation (let's call it goal/purpose) to be able to keep your self-discipline!

Amazing insights everyone!

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adammiller44

12 years ago

I like to think of discipline as “what to do” and motivation as “why to do.” Discipline has a Latin root, but the gist is it’s about teaching. So I think of self-discipline as teaching yourself self-control and shaping your behaviour, so that you’re not a slave to your motivations. Primal motivations served us at one point, but society’s changed what survival means. For more precision, you can think of discipline as shaping your thinking, feeling, and doing to adopt a new behaviour. Discipline serves you most when motivation says do otherwise. At the end of the day though, I think a key is to find ways to link things to feeling good. You do more of what makes you feel good and less of what makes you feel bad.

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RichBeck

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Humir Madrid

This is why I think self-discipline is better than motivation:

Self-discipline can be trained and improved over time. It's like a muscle, the more you use it the better it gets. You can train your self-discipline to masterful levels, to the point that whatever you need to do is as good as done.

Humir,

I would definitely agree....

Motivation is like a "sugar high" after eating four boxes of candy.... You feel awesome... Then, you crash hard.

Self-discipline is more like eating a handful of almonds.

It may not "taste" as good as candy... But, it gives you real and longer lasting nourishment.

All The Best,

Rich Beck BCIP, MCSD, MCIS

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mlrooney 12 years ago

Humir-- that is a really great point. I had never really thought about self discipline and motivation in those terms, but I couldn't agree more! Self-discipline is definitely the most important!

Thank you for your words of wisdom!! Definitely what I needed today
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Racingheart

12 years ago

I wish I could thank you for this but I can't. Thank you posting such a wise post. I have learned something new today and your post will serve as an inspiring quote to me when I lacked motivation. Each and every single word you have said is so true. This not only applies to internet marketing but everywhere. I remember in grade 8, one of my classmates asked my Math teacher what's her favorite national football team and she said Germany. Her reason was because the Germans are the most disciplined and back then, I was too young to understand what she said but thinking back, what she said is true. Just look at the German national football team. Do you ever see them finishing outside of the semi-finals in every major tournament. They are incredibly consistent and I think self-discipline plays a major part in their success rather than motivation.

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