Manifestation or Spirituality development?

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I was wondering... why is there so much interest in the esoteric sciences in an internet marketing forum? I kind of realized there are two groups:

(1) The manifestation people - fascinated by the esoteric Work - wanting to grasp a control over reality and produce favorable circumstances...

(2) The self-development people - searching for the truth in everything - wanting to walk on a path of self-discovery and enlightenment...

Which one are you really? What is your sole reason for getting into this arena in the first place?
#development #manifestation #spirituality
  • Profile picture of the author Matthew Trujillo
    The key to succeeding in anything in life including business is having the right mindset.
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      Both? In the search for internal spiritual truth I have found an increased ability to manifest whatever I wish. This isn't a separation of anything and there needn't be a separation of the two.

      This is a case where you can have your cake and eat it too if you play your cards right. Don't isolate your vision to just one side if having both at once is just as easily attained.
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    • Profile picture of the author Taviuss
      Originally Posted by Matthew J Trujillo View Post

      The key to succeeding in anything in life including business is having the right mindset.
      Actually I wanted to expand on this -

      yes the mindset is important - but you still have to do ACTION to make it happen.

      Unless you are willing to do something, you won't get there.

      Even winning the lottery, you need to put the effort of buying a ticket.

      Anyone I know who has been able to pull in over $50,000 a month swears by that.
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  • Profile picture of the author rhodester
    This I know to be true. Not working at being positive and not learning new ideas and ways to improve yourself and those you serve every day consistently, will lead to "stinking thinking" Simple but ,in my opinion, true. Have a great day.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoyfulLadyJ
    Essentially, everything is energy. Physical things are energy - us, the plants & trees, the TV, the car, the house. Spirit is energy. The separation between physical manifestation and spiritual enlightenment is artificial -- created by those with an agenda.

    The outer reflects the inner. As I've modified my inner with deliberate intention, my outer has consistently changed so that it continues to accurately reflect the inner. This is true in my body, in the abundance in my life, in the ever increasing love in my life, in the peace in my heart and home and thoughts.

    If someone believes they must be poor to be truly spiritual and they strive to be truly spiritual with that belief they will manifest poverty for themselves.

    We never intended to be poor or to suffer. None of us. It is not necessary to compete. It is not about competition, it is about creation. It is possible for all to thrive and for all to be enlightened. However, enlightened is a state of Being. It is not something that once attained remains yours forevermore. Yes, once there it is easier to return, but you can separate yourself from All That Is with discordant thoughts.

    I see the abundance in my life as an example to others that they can, too. I am often told "I want your life" and I tell those who say that, "You can have your own." I would like to see everyone thrive.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Benjamin
      Originally Posted by JoyfulLadyJ View Post

      Essentially, everything is energy. Physical things are energy - us, the plants & trees, the TV, the car, the house. Spirit is energy. The separation between physical manifestation and spiritual enlightenment is artificial -- created by those with an agenda.

      The outer reflects the inner. As I've modified my inner with deliberate intention, my outer has consistently changed so that it continues to accurately reflect the inner. This is true in my body, in the abundance in my life, in the ever increasing love in my life, in the peace in my heart and home and thoughts.

      If someone believes they must be poor to be truly spiritual and they strive to be truly spiritual with that belief they will manifest poverty for themselves.

      We never intended to be poor or to suffer. None of us. It is not necessary to compete. It is not about competition, it is about creation. It is possible for all to thrive and for all to be enlightened. However, enlightened is a state of Being. It is not something that once attained remains yours forevermore. Yes, once there it is easier to return, but you can separate yourself from All That Is with discordant thoughts.

      I see the abundance in my life as an example to others that they can, too. I am often told "I want your life" and I tell those who say that, "You can have your own." I would like to see everyone thrive.
      Very true.

      Sometimes it blows my mind when things seem to
      'work itself out' with little to no involvement of my
      own.

      And if I am involved in the process, I 'start' it, but
      rarely finish it. And if I start and finish it I'm guided
      along the away.

      I know it's my inner-spirit working side-by-side
      with my physical self to help me accomplish my
      goals.

      I learned that when you let go of any outcome and
      you focus on the goal at hand, the outcome works
      itself out....even when things appear to turn sour.

      A big part of this is not being afraid.

      Afraid of failure...

      ...but more importantly, afraid of success.

      That cute girl down the grocery aisle? She said,
      "No?" Cool. No biggie. I KNOW another one is
      going to catch my eye and we're going to click.

      That new business opportunity you've been
      thinking about? Didn't work out like you imagined?
      You have NO fear...another opportunity shows
      up seemingly out of nowhere and sets you financially
      free.

      In both cases you didn't give up, but you don't
      hold a tight grip on what's not working.

      You're opening your hand releasing the baggage
      to allow the good to come into your life.

      It's not an easy process.

      You're going to slip up. You WILL make mistakes.
      But you can sleep at night. You after what you
      wanted and regardless if it pans out or does well
      you sleep with a smile on your face.

      Atleast I know I do every night
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by JoyfulLadyJ View Post

      Essentially, everything is energy. Physical things are energy - us, the plants & trees....
      I don't know why you want to write in bright blue, but I want you to know when you do you eliminate some readers. I can't read that unless I copy and paste it into another program. Not everyone has perfect vision, especially many of us older folks. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraLarkin
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    IM'ers began the internet marketing journey researching alternative ways to live, make money, and of course the way they look at spirituality and religion.

    Most people that come here will have the interests you say, and have more than likely researched them or practice them currently.
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  • Profile picture of the author NoEndInsight
    This may blow some of your minds but if you want to really look DEEEEPPPPPP into this concept, then you will see that there are ultimately two forces at work when it comes to success. There is God and there is Satan. Just hear me out peeps!

    Satan can grant you just about whatever you want and can actually create circumstances in your favor to grant you success. This is why you hear of people selling their souls to the devil. This is very much a real thing. Satan is the ruler of this world. He tempts people with all kinds of things. Using esoteric knowlege and black magic for acquiring things is something closer to the side of satan.

    You can also achieve success and clarity in your life by searching out God's will. This is what I have done and I swear, it has made my life so much clearer. I have just surrendered to his will and believe it or not, I am now pursuing a life that really makes me happy. I'm not trying to convert anybody here or anything, but I've spent a lot of hours researching the true forces of this world. Do your own investigating and you will come to your own conclusion. Just know that success can be attained in one of two ways. Choose wisely.
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    • Profile picture of the author James Fame
      Originally Posted by NoEndInsight View Post

      This may blow some of your minds but if you want to really look DEEEEPPPPPP into this concept, then you will see that there are ultimately two forces at work when it comes to success. There is God and there is Satan. Just hear me out peeps!

      Satan can grant you just about whatever you want and can actually create circumstances in your favor to grant you success. This is why you hear of people selling their souls to the devil. This is very much a real thing. Satan is the ruler of this world. He tempts people with all kinds of things. Using esoteric knowlege and black magic for acquiring things is something closer to the side of satan.

      You can also achieve success and clarity in your life by searching out God's will. This is what I have done and I swear, it has made my life so much clearer. I have just surrendered to his will and believe it or not, I am now pursuing a life that really makes me happy. I'm not trying to convert anybody here or anything, but I've spent a lot of hours researching the true forces of this world. Do your own investigating and you will come to your own conclusion. Just know that success can be attained in one of two ways. Choose wisely.
      There are also many instances of this in many religions.

      In wicca, the horned god shows two hands. The first is "white magic" while the other is "black magic". Basically anything for selfish materialistic reasons fall under the category of black.

      It's also found in buddhism. The first is nirvana, the second is annihilation or samsara. Materialistic "magic" falls under destruction of the soul.

      It's found in many religions though I wouldnt agree that Satan is the 2nd path in christianity. Satan is a metaphor - of a being that fell from God (aka fallen angel) or it's a personalisation of the 2nd hand path

      This is probably a disguised question so that non-religious people can pick a choice. : )
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Reckoned View Post

    I was wondering... why is there so much interest in the esoteric sciences in an internet marketing forum? I kind of realized there are two groups:

    (1) The manifestation people - fascinated by the esoteric Work - wanting to grasp a control over reality and produce favorable circumstances...

    (2) The self-development people - searching for the truth in everything - wanting to walk on a path of self-discovery and enlightenment...

    Which one are you really? What is your sole reason for getting into this arena in the first place?
    I think I may actually have an answer. First of all, the two options you give are essentially two facets of the same mindset, of a fully developed person.

    The real question is why are so many interested in the esoteric?

    I think it's because it's interesting, fun to think about, and takes the mind away from the actual work of making money online.

    Although I spent years reading self development books, my real earnings came when I started studying marketing. Yup, and actually working.

    And this is the Mind Warriors section, so it would be strange if most weren't into some kind of esoteric self development subject.
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  • Profile picture of the author Primed Cruzader
    I would definitely say I am more along the lines of self development. I know theres people that subscribe to "the secret" mentality. But part of it is that I never grew up with my father so I've had to spend a lot of time figuring things out for myself, and with the help of mentors along the way. It's almost like being on a treasure hunt, figuring out what makes you tick and in the long run i think it gives you more control and personality in business and social relationships.
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  • I am in it for both Numbers One & Two. The spiritual being that I am knows it needs money to pay the rent so it acts with intentions in both arenas.

    LLS
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  • Profile picture of the author akhtar
    I agree... Nothing will happen with out the right Mindset and correct Energy.....
    Get on a Mindset course you will understand...
    Theres enough Infomation online check you Tube Out..
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Hi,

    Both We have it all. Expand your awareness through meditation and intense observation to see this. I see it in seconds...intending to expand my awareness to see this truth in life, throughout the day.

    Clear your inner world. Observe the change in your outer world. You will see and live in accordance to truths, then, if you desire neat physical stuff, these things will flow into your life with increasing ease.

    All the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author ThomasOMalley
    When you realize that everything comes from depending on the Source or God within you, you are on your way to true spiritual living.

    Check out the Collected Essays of Joel Goldsmith for more info.

    Best,

    Thomas O'Malley
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