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Unread 15th May 2013, 12:45 PM   #1
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I currently have some software that all of a sudden is having problems so can anyone recommend anything as I am currently sending out 1000 emails per day.

My VAs reported this today to me, whilst I was cold calling

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I am interested to hear as well. I have heard of people emailing, but not many talk about how they send out large number of emails. I have been using a separate gmail account - and I am following all i-can spam act rules; but I still fear a single complaint can shut down my gmail account...
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I've used Mobile Renegade ... beside lead extracting it's has an email plugin which is very good.With several email accounts, proxies maybe couple vps you could do a lot more than 1k/day.Here the link to the thread http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ine-sales.html

What I would suggest it's not doing spam as you will be blacklisted fast.Take some time and customize the email you send within the program, consider a proper delay between emails.It should be unique.That way your inbox rate will be increased by a lot.Simply ask their support as they are very helpful and they will tell you what to do to hit your target.
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Adrian John, I AM using mobile renegade, that is the software that has f~##ed up! Along with the email plugin!

Queue list does not go down but increases! Say I email 250 in list it starts at 250 then jumps to 400! WTF! It says it has posted 32 and there are 138 sent (in sent folder!) WHAT??????????????

This has been an on going problem and I have asked Ken to resolve this for the past 6 weeks. It is a reoccurring issue. I don't want to be sending the same email to same email addresses, this seems to be the problem!

I use the tokens within the software to customize the message but it is no good if it reporting inaccuracies, I also set the amount of emails to 50 per email account and never send more than 200 per hour - Like I say I DON'T spam.

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I've used Mobile Renegade ... beside lead extracting it's has an email plugin which is very good.With several email accounts, proxies maybe couple vps you could do a lot more than 1k/day.Here the link to the thread http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ine-sales.html

What I would suggest it's not doing spam as you will be blacklisted fast.Take some time and customize the email you send within the program, consider a proper delay between emails.It should be unique.That way your inbox rate will be increased by a lot.Simply ask their support as they are very helpful and they will tell you what to do to hit your target.
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Whats the best mailer for emailing prospects without spamming!
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I also set the amount of emails to 50 per email account and never send more than 200 per hour - Like I say I DON'T spam.
Dexter,

Spam has nothing to do with what "emailer" you use to send out emails, or how many emails you send per hour. It has to do mainly with the content of the emails (and a few other things, as explained in the link below).

CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you are following CAN-SPAM rules, then you can send out as many emails per hour as you want, and it would be perfectly legal. But if you are not complying with CAN-SPAM, then you could send out just 1 email, and it would be illegal.

So don't worry about how many emails you are sending out... just make sure that each email you send complies with the law.

(Disclaimer: the above info applies to US law... if you are operating in another country then other laws may apply).


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Another one to look at is: Power Leads Pro
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Yes the emails of course do comply with Can SPAM, I was informed that if I sent too many emails my ISP would either close my connection or slow it down.

I was bad once (many years ago) and downed a data center . Trying to be good ever since. Stress the word "trying".

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Dexter,

Spam has nothing to do with what "emailer" you use to send out emails, or how many emails you send per hour. It has to do mainly with the content of the emails (and a few other things, as explained in the link below).

CAN-SPAM Act of 2003 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If you are following CAN-SPAM rules, then you can send out as many emails per hour as you want, and it would be perfectly legal. But if you are not complying with CAN-SPAM, then you could send out just 1 email, and it would be illegal.

So don't worry about how many emails you are sending out... just make sure that each email you send complies with the law.

(Disclaimer: the above info applies to US law... if you are operating in another country then other laws may apply).
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Originally Posted by DexterGallagher View Post

Adrian John, I AM using mobile renegade, that is the software that has f~##ed up! Along with the email plugin!

Queue list does not go down but increases! Say I email 250 in list it starts at 250 then jumps to 400! WTF! It says it has posted 32 and there are 138 sent (in sent folder!) WHAT??????????????

This has been an on going problem and I have asked Ken to resolve this for the past 6 weeks. It is a reoccurring issue. I don't want to be sending the same email to same email addresses, this seems to be the problem!

I use the tokens within the software to customize the message but it is no good if it reporting inaccuracies, I also set the amount of emails to 50 per email account and never send more than 200 per hour - Like I say I DON'T spam.
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I was extremely interested to read your response because this is exactly the same issue I encountered with Mobile Renegade plus the EMail Renegade Plugin (cost me an additional $67.00), and before I gave up on it, it got me into serious trouble and my hosting account with Scala Hosting was shut down. I opened this account in an effort to follow Ken's advice which stresses the importance of sending emails from diverse email accounts.

I was sending emails from accounts hosted with HostGator, Blue Hosting and Scala Hosting.

When I reported the issue to Ken, he gave me the distinct impression I was the only customer experiencing the issue of the queue multiplying like rabbits on speed. Disappointing ...

I spent a long time on the phone with Ken during which I gave him access to my computer, but it did no good whatsoever. In the end I gave up on Mobile Renegade. I've never been a spammer - I abhor the fact that the software was labeling me as one. It's now just gathering dust on my hard drive.
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I find it interesting that no one here is listing the standard e-marketing like icontact and getresponse. If you are using more than one host than I imagine you are paying more than these companies charge, so what am I missing?
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I find it interesting that no one here is listing the standard e-marketing like icontact and getresponse. If you are using more than one host than I imagine you are paying more than these companies charge, so what am I missing?
You might not be missing anything, but can you use these services for COLD email messages?

I checked out icontact and they charge based on # of subscribers. We aren't having people 'opt-in'. We are sending cold commercial messages (in compliance with CAN SPAM, of course) to business email addresses.

I am not against paying the fee for a good, legitimate service that simplifies my email marketing while helping me stay in compliance.
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Though I have not used them, my understanding is that Clickback allows the sending of non-opt in commercial email.
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I use sendblaster via hostgator. Both are working fine for me!
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Hi,

To be fair to Ken, the software works fine now, but when I have an issue it does get resolved with Ken sorting the computer out, he makes tweaks to the software and then I get an update.

Also before I started using MR, I contacted my website hosting and asked them what was the maximum emails I could send out per 24 hours and they told me 3000 emails per domain, so I broke this down and used the setting within MR to set the parameters to only send 50 emails per email address, with each domain having 5 addresses, 5 domains in total. So in theory I could send 15,000 emails per day, but to stay under the radar, I only send 250 per domain = 1250 per day.

I must say though that all email software will have some teething problems, I picked up the Squeezemobi new offer - you put a load of leads in a csv file and it creates landing pages for them then you can email them through the built in mailer - this was the OTO. Tried it with a list of 99 and the list jumped to 127, the 28 were all duplicates of one of the domains but going to different email addresses . Still waiting their response to solve it (reported yesterday morning).

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I was extremely interested to read your response because this is exactly the same issue I encountered with Mobile Renegade plus the EMail Renegade Plugin (cost me an additional $67.00), and before I gave up on it, it got me into serious trouble and my hosting account with Scala Hosting was shut down. I opened this account in an effort to follow Ken's advice which stresses the importance of sending emails from diverse email accounts.

I was sending emails from accounts hosted with HostGator, Blue Hosting and Scala Hosting.

When I reported the issue to Ken, he gave me the distinct impression I was the only customer experiencing the issue of the queue multiplying like rabbits on speed. Disappointing ...

I spent a long time on the phone with Ken during which I gave him access to my computer, but it did no good whatsoever. In the end I gave up on Mobile Renegade. I've never been a spammer - I abhor the fact that the software was labeling me as one. It's now just gathering dust on my hard drive.
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Yeah. It would definitely a spam. I think you need to create one per one hundred email unique design to email.

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gmail allows 250 per day I think so just set up several gmail accounts to multiply the outbound emails.
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That's what we did when we were testing this. We found that sending through gmail had a higher deliver rate to the the inbox than a email address from a domain.

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gmail allows 250 per day I think so just set up several gmail accounts to multiply the outbound emails.
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If you are looking to mail these people, make sure you have permission from them to send mails. Otherwise they may report it as spam.

I think for you , a hosted email marketing service is best option. However, most ISPs will not allow you to mail through their platform without re verifying your leads. You can PM me if you need any special emial marketing setup and I will try to give you best solution possible

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If you are in the U.S. you can send bulk email to businesses without permission if you follow the Can Spam act. Even if you follow the act you can still get reported as spam, however if you do it carefully and professionally with a targeted message, you shouldn't have a problem.

I can't say for other countries.

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If you are looking to mail these people, make sure you have permission from them to send mails. Otherwise they may report it as spam.

I think for you , a hosted email marketing service is best option. However, most ISPs will not allow you to mail through their platform without re verifying your leads. You can PM me if you need any special emial marketing setup and I will try to give you best solution possible
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Hi, AWeber works great too. That is another option. They $20 to get started with them. Granted they do go up as you start to build your list. But it is a good option to start with. Also, they have a lot of tutorials to look at to learn the best ways to utilize their tools.
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Another one to look at is: Power Leads Pro

I have worked with Power Leads Pro too. It is easy to work with. And it is a good way to get out a bunch of emails at once. Anytime I had issues I just emailed Matthew and he always responded quickly.
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I can recommend Ezeesocial.com, you can upload your lists without confirmation email and it allows you to send as many emails as you want :-) I love it
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