Can You Help Decipher 'Screen Resolutions?'

by BigFrank Banned
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Is there anything harder to understand in the world of computing than screen resolutions? Not for me.

Here is my dilemma. I have an Apple 30" HD Cinema Display. It has an aspect ratio of 16:10. It's resolution is 2560x1600, but a a dual-link DVI connection is required to achieve those numbers.

I am looking to add a second monitor to my system. I don't really want to buy a used monitor, or I would purchase a duplicate of what I currently have.

In looking at new monitors, there are endless choices. After days of perusing Amazon, I have hopefully finally settled on the LG P-class 29UM65 29 inch LED monitor with an aspect ratio of 21:9 but the resolution is 2560x1080.

I don't understand how the aspect ration affects resolution. The more reading I do the more confused I become as most of the articles are written in geek-speak. So - my question is, after taking the aspect ratio difference into account, how large a difference is there going to be in resolution? Or am I asking an 'apples and oranges' question?

The other question is, if one is going to use a two-monitor configuration is it better on the eyes to have exactly matching monitors in their resolution specifications?

Any help would be appreciated. :-)

Cheers. - Frank
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    Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

    So - my question is, after taking the aspect ratio difference into account, how large a difference is there going to be in resolution? Or am I asking an 'apples and oranges' question?
    Frank, it's a perfectly valid question.

    The difference would be you are losing 33.5%... Your current monitor is larger and provides more vertical resolution.

    Total resolution would be figured like this:

    2560 X 1600 = 4,096,000 pixels
    2560 x 1080 = 2,764,800 pixels

    You can see the screen you own now has a lot more real estate to work with. That new monitor has only 67.5% of the vertical real estate that you are used to. Since the horizontal dimension is the same, it provides only 67.5% of the total screen real estate that your current monitor does.

    As you probably well know, most HD movies and videos these days are 16:9 or 16:10 (cable, satellite, and air). Look at it like this, if I am editing images (3:2 and 4:3) in Photoshop I would be able to see much more of a full size image on your current monitor without the need to scroll down.

    That said, 21:9 is basically a CinemaScope or Anamorphic format used when shooting movies. HDMI and Blu-ray support the format, and many new large flat screens are going 21:9 as well. Personally, I prefer a 2560 with a 16:10 or 16:9 aspect ratio on my computer monitor...but would not mind a 21:9 format on one of my TVs since it would allow me better viewing of some of the movies shot and delivered in "CinemaWide". Just a few weeks ago I purchased a new 50" and it was not a 21:9 --> as of today I watch most of my HD movies via satellite, which does not deliver 21:9.

    Those 21:9 movies will play on a 16:9 or 16:10 but they have the black bars at the top and the bottom, or they are converted and possibly stretched to fit 16:9 or 16:10.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anamorphic_format

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CinemaScope

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21:9_aspect_ratio

    Vizio's very wide CinemaWide 21:9 TV is a revelation for movie buffs

    The other question is, if one is going to use a two-monitor configuration is it better on the eyes to have exactly matching monitors in their resolution specifications?
    As far as having both the same it is sometimes a good idea (and my preference) to use the same (or similar) resolutions on each so when you drag and drop from monitor to monitor the windows, tools, and applications stay the same size, and they can fit in the same amount of space without resizing.

    Hope that helps.

    Cheers

    -don
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

      Hope that helps. Cheers -don
      Greetings Don,

      Yes, although I will have to read it a couple of times, it seems like I can wrap my head around that.

      Now I'm looking at getting a new Cinema Display to match what I have, instead. I am spoiled at some level and it would be closer to the default resolution of the new iMac 5K which is 2560 x 1440. You can go to 3200 x 1800, but you need the peepers of a teenager to actually read anything. I think that is what is meant by 'overkill.'

      BTW - I knew that you would be the person that would take the time to try to help me. I do appreciate it - especially, with all the grief I send your way. lol

      Thank you, sir.

      Cheers. - Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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        LoL, no problem Frank.

        Yeah, 3200 x 1800 would be great as long as the monitor is large enough. As you know, that's the thing with computer monitors --> to actually use super-high resolutions in everyday desk work the screen itself has to be fairly large for most folks. Many people think they will do 2560 on a small screen and then quickly realize they need a magnifying glass to read normal text.

        Cheers

        -don
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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          So, I went and pulled the trigger on another Apple 30" HD Cinema Display. The one I have now is the best monitor I have ever used so I didn't feel like gambling with an unknown. I probably would have never been happy with anything else. I know myself well enough, by now.

          I'm tempted to put the 2 of them side-by-side, but I would actually have to move my body back and forth to see all the way from one end to the other. lol

          Thanks again, Don.

          Cheers. - Frank
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          • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
            Frank,

            Multiple monitors are one of the best upgrades anyone can do for themselves. Congratulations on your purchase. You will wonder why you didn't do it sooner.

            Let us know how it goes.


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            • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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              Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

              Frank,

              Multiple monitors are one of the best upgrades anyone can do for themselves. Congratulations on your purchase. You will wonder why you didn't do it sooner.

              Let us know how it goes.


              Joe Mobley
              Greetings Joe,

              Yes - I have had dual monitor setups, before, but no where near dual 30 inchers. I feel guilty for being so blatantly ostentatious. Almost. lol

              Then again, as they say, "a man can never be too rich, too thin or have too much screen real estate."

              Cheers. - Frank
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          • Profile picture of the author WalkingCarpet
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            Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

            So, I went and pulled the trigger on another Apple 30" HD Cinema Display. The one I have now is the best monitor I have ever used so I didn't feel like gambling with an unknown. I probably would have never been happy with anything else. I know myself well enough, by now.

            I'm tempted to put the 2 of them side-by-side, but I would actually have to move my body back and forth to see all the way from one end to the other. lol

            Thanks again, Don.

            Cheers. - Frank
            Good choice.
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            • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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              It's true what they say. Nothing in life is easy. Even though I had upgraded video cards installed when I bought my Mac Pro and even though I installed a 256Gb SSD for my system, the old girl is getting a little long in the tooth. After realizing that my pacemaker/defibrillator is a newer model than my Mac Pro, I have decide to throw all perspective and rationale out the window and replace my machine with something worthy of those side-by-side 30 inch displays.

              I'm a few days away from pulling the trigger on a new Mac Pro with a 3.5GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5 processor with 64GB of RAM, a 1TB SSD, Dual AMD FirePro D500 GPU's w/ 3G of GDDR5 VRAM each, a 3 TB Thunderbolt external drive and a Focus XS sound system.

              I know - it's total insanity, but every Mac I have ever bought has paid for itself many times over. I'm sure that is will be the very last rig that I ever buy so I see no reason to chintz.

              I'm going to sleep on it for a few days, but I don't really know why. It's unlikely that I'm going to be struck by a bolt of common sense. lol

              Cheers. - Frank

              P.S. The second monitor has already shipped. :-)
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              • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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                The Cinema Display has arrived, the new Mac Pro has been ordered and life is very good, indeed. :-)

                Cheers. - Frank
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        BTW - I knew that you would be the person that would take the time to try to help me. I do appreciate it - especially, with all the grief I send your way. lol
        Frank,

        I too would have taken the time to tell you but I decided not to help you.

        Let me explain why.

        I haven't got a dickybird of a clue about what you were talking about either, so well done Don for helping me on this as well as Frank.
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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          I haven't got a dickybird of a clue about what you were talking about either, so well done Don for helping me on this as well as Frank.
          Well, I feel a bit better knowing that I'm not alone in my lack of understanding of this subject matter. :-)

          Cheers. - Frank
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

            Well, I feel a bit better knowing that I'm not alone in my lack of understanding of this subject matter. :-)

            Cheers. - Frank
            Yup, I always see those figures and move on quickly. Today I have learned something new.

            Glad you fel better there are two of us. See, I helped in the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scene6
    Hi,

    I'm not an IM, but an infoproduct creator, who specializes in 3D animation and visualisation. The difference between a video/TV monitor and a computermonitor is basically the flexibility.

    Regarding video/TV, the US had a NTSC standard and Europe PAL, both in a 4:3 (screen length x heigth). US was 640x480 at 30 fps rate, Europe was 720x576 (some exceptions) and 25 fps. That was the standard screen resolution, interlaced. Then came the 16:9 aspect ratio, meaning length = 1024x576, in fact the same as 4:3, but the length axis is squeezed and we call that anamorf. Black bars on top or below the picture are 4:3 letterbox. In case of a cinema fomat 2:35, the picture size is simply reduced to fit the screen.

    It all changed with HD and the digital revolution. In general, we now have a common standard 1920x1080, which is de facto a genuine 16:9 aspect ratio (not anamorph). And here we finally got rid of the dreadful interlaced system and switched to progressive. Hurray. The only thing we have to worry about now is compression, which affects the image quality. Fortunately, codecs and compression get better all the time.
    Now we are looking at 4K (resolution=4096, 2K =2048, a little more than HD). I doubt it the human eye will be able to see a lot of difference between 4 or more K on a monitor. I've watched pictures on an 8K Barco monitor, but then again, perhaps my eyes are not what they used to be.

    Computer screens are progressive, more flexible, less limited than a video/tv monitor. The resolution will affect the seize, but not the aspect ratio, provided the aspect ratio is locked. If you unlock it (in your editing or animation software or Photoshop), then you can pretty muck put in any length and heigth you want. However, if a picture or video has been created in another aspect ratio, the image will not crop, but deform.
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