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  • Profile picture of the author Marked09
    I think you're are too stressed out or your mind is too occupied of so many things. You business included of course.

    I also get to overwhelmed on that things that I need and want to do and most of the time if you include business on top of your job you'll end up messing something up. (It really happens)

    That's why most of the company prohibits employee from doing extra sideline work because of that reason.

    Maybe you can try clear your mind of your business when you are at work then try to write everything on the task that you need to do so you won't forget everything.
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    I agree with you completely. But that is almost impossible because my passion lies with my business and discovering new income streams, etc. Not with the meaningless work that I do while at the office.

    The reason I have this job is because ultimately I fear failure, we all do. But being afraid is no excuse to do something that makes you miserable on a daily basis, so I am fighting my internal demons.
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    • Profile picture of the author Marked09
      Originally Posted by AYCE View Post

      I agree with you completely. But that is almost impossible because my passion lies with my business and discovering new income streams, etc. Not with the meaningless work that I do while at the office.

      The reason I have this job is because ultimately I fear failure, we all do. But being afraid is no excuse to do something that makes you miserable on a daily basis, so I am fighting my internal demons.
      It's not really on how much passionate you are it's about the task and your responsibility. I know a lot of people who are running their own business are not really passionate on their niche. They just do it because the money is there.

      Just like as nicheblogger has stated, the work is just too overwhelming to be done by a single person that's why It is best to control you thoughts first and focus on the work that needs to be done. We cannot do anything about it unless you're ready to quit and work on your business or find another job.

      This is expected since you're still on a Job. It wouldn't be good to burn the bridges especially you said that you are not yet ready to leap on the entrepreneurial world yet.

      Same thing, when you're working on your business you can forget everything about your Job.

      Also having the discipline to focus the task is an important skill in building your business so it might be a good way to practice as early as now.
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      • Profile picture of the author AYCE
        Originally Posted by Marked09 View Post

        It's not really on how much passionate you are it's about the task and your responsibility. I know a lot of people who are running their own business are not really passionate on their niche. They just do it because the money is there.

        Just like as nicheblogger has stated, the work is just too overwhelming to be done by a single person that's why It is best to control you thoughts first and focus on the work that needs to be done.

        This is expected since you're still on a Job. It wouldn't be good to burn the bridges especially you said that you are not yet ready to leap on the entrepreneurial world yet.

        Same thing, when you're working on your business you can forget everything about your Job.

        Also having the discipline to focus the task is an important skill in building your business so it might be a good way to practice as early as now.
        I'm not a green thumb. I've had my fair share of accomplishments with my own ventures. And I'd have to disagree with your statement. I value my own personal time and mental health over money. If I am in business, you better believe that I am going to be passionate about it, or I would be just as unsatisfied as I am now. I need to wake up in the morning and get fired up about providing service and making a living from it!
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        • Profile picture of the author Marked09
          Originally Posted by AYCE View Post

          I'm not a green thumb. I've had my fair share of accomplishments with my own ventures. And I'd have to disagree with your statement. I value my own personal time and mental health over money. If I am in business, you better believe that I am going to be passionate about it, or I would be just as unsatisfied as I am now. I need to wake up in the morning and get fired up about providing service and making a living from it!
          I'm not going to argue with you anymore, sometimes you got to live in the present first before you can live in the future/vision.

          Assess what you currently have and what you can do about it so you can live in the future that you want., I'm just a realist.
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
          Originally Posted by AYCE View Post

          I'm not a green thumb. I've had my fair share of accomplishments with my own ventures. And I'd have to disagree with your statement. I value my own personal time and mental health over money. If I am in business, you better believe that I am going to be passionate about it, or I would be just as unsatisfied as I am now. I need to wake up in the morning and get fired up about providing service and making a living from it!

          I'm afraid then you may be in for a lot of disappointment...

          While being passionate about your business is desired, it may not happen. But that's not necessarily bad. I am in business for myself and I enjoy it quite a bit. But my passions certainly lie elsewhere. Any passion that may be "missing" from my work life I make up for in many other ways.

          Also, I learned something valuable when I DID have a business I was passionate about - I ended up very unhappy because it went from something I liked to do because I was passionate about it to resenting it because I HAD to do it to make a living. If that makes sense...

          So, I save my passions for my family/friends/hobbies.

          Like I said - I do ENJOY what I do. But I am realistic about it. It more than pays my bills, the stress is relatively low, my customers are fantastic and I am at least fulfilled. I am FAR from unsatisfied.

          The other thing I learned about working around your passion is that not all these passions have a good market to build a sustainable business around.

          This is just my viewpoint and experience. But going through the process really opened my eyes to the whole "work your passions" hoo-ha.
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          • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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            Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

            This is just my viewpoint and experience. But going through the process really opened my eyes to the whole "work your passions" hoo-ha.
            Hoo-ha, is precisely right.

            Take something that you love more than anything in life. Turn it into your job. See how long it takes you to totally hate what you are doing. :-)

            Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author nicheblogger75
    Originally Posted by AYCE View Post

    A bit of a rant post I guess. I'm in the office today and I get a call from our sales guying saying we have a customer who did not receive his RMA product which was promised to ship last week ( I told him this ). Well it's Friday and he hasn't gotten it ( Because I didn't ship it )

    I've worked at this tech company for about 6 months now and I do like it, but lately I'm reverting back to my old roots. "Unemployed" and happy.

    The original job position was stated that I would be handling tech support and marketing. Well I ended up doing graphic design, video production, website work & now as of late shipping as well.

    I have a ton of things to juggle during the day so I focus on the most important tasks and work my way down. Lately I've noticed that It is ridiculous to have to juggle each one of these tasks during the day and then get "scolded" for things that I was unable to complete when I have a bunch of other important things going as well.

    Ultimately, I'm planning my D day to escape this employee lifestyle and do whatever it takes to get my business moving and my first clients satisfied. I will not be giving myself the option to "fail" and end up at another job where the same process will begin again.

    Can anyone relate to this?
    I can relate 100%. I was in a job where as others lost their jobs due to "downsizing," the responsibilities those people had were then split up among the remaining managers. This resulted in a "pile on" effect which absolutely damaged efficiency, and totally destroyed morale.

    In the company I worked for, we had weekly meetings. This was back in 2008 when the economy was really bad and the industry I worked in (Travel & Tourism), was one of the hardest hit. In our meetings, the mantra became "do more with less." Now, if you sit down and really analyze that statement, you will come to understand it's really not possible in most instances. In fact, it doesn't even make sense. They upper management loved to use that term, but when asked to explain what it meant, they seemed to be at a loss for words most of the time. That's because in reality, one cannot really do MORE when they have LESS.

    This is a common MO of many large, and even small, companies nowadays. They hire you under a certain job title and description, and as time goes on, they pile on more and more responsibility. However, all of this new responsibility usually NEVER comes with a raise in pay. Inevitably, the employee begins to experience exactly what's happening to the OP. The work load becomes impossible for one person, so the employee does what the OP did and prioritizes his/her work based on importance, which is the only logical thing an employee in these circumstances can do.

    As time goes on, the employee falls farther and farther behind, and some tasks end up left undone and/or totally forgotten. This is not the employee's fault, as the employee has pretty much been left to accomplish the jobs of 2 or 3 people. The company, of course, still expects all of this work to be done in the same amount of hours, especially if the employee is paid hourly and overtime is involved. If the employee is salaried management, it normally results in the employee working far more than the standard 40-45 hours per week that the salary is based on.

    This is exactly why when I ended up being "downsized" after I had worked myself to the bone thinking that the company would take care of me if I worked harder and took on more responsibility and did not ask for more pay, I vowed NEVER to work for anyone else ever again.

    And I haven't...
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Maybe I'm strange - but I can't relate to this. If I have a job - I do the job. If I don't like doing it - I quit.

      It's not the employer's fault that you can't prioritize and can't be bothered to keep your word to customers....I'd say if this is the norm you probably won't have to worry about the job too much longer.

      If you are promising shipments to customers and then making excuses for why you DID NOT ship as you promised - you need to quit before you get fired.
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      • Profile picture of the author AYCE
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Maybe I'm strange - but I can't relate to this. If I have a job - I do the job. If I don't like doing it - I quit.

        It's not the employer's fault that you can't prioritize and can't be bothered to keep your word to customers....I'd say if this is the norm you probably won't have to worry about the job too much longer.

        If you are promising shipments to customers and then making excuses for why you DID NOT ship as you promised - you need to quit before you get fired.
        I never once made an excuse for not shipping the items. It is completely my fault. I provided insight as to why it did not go as planned and provided reasons for such actions.

        Also this is not the "norm". This is the first instance.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexandre Valois
        Kay is spot on.

        Is that the kind of crap your customers and business partners can expect on you once you go full-time and start freaking out about all the responsibilities of being self-employed / a business owner?

        As they say, there's no such thing as "business" ethics.

        Stop putting all the blame on your boss, grow a pair and start taking responsibility for your own actions.

        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Maybe I'm strange - but I can't relate to this. If I have a job - I do the job. If I don't like doing it - I quit.

        It's not the employer's fault that you can't prioritize and can't be bothered to keep your word to customers....I'd say if this is the norm you probably won't have to worry about the job too much longer.

        If you are promising shipments to customers and then making excuses for why you DID NOT ship as you promised - you need to quit before you get fired.
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  • Profile picture of the author AYCE
    It's just not worth it! My vision of what I want and understanding of how the world and the working class works just doesn't add up. Time for money is not the most efficient means of earning an income!

    I took on this job because I really felt that it's something I needed to do to stay afloat, as well as the pressure from family members as well. Last summer I made a livable income from picking up a few freelance web design gigs as well as tutoring PC, MAC & Software skills and I loved it!

    I've also been listening to Bob Proctor lately and he get's me so energized and hyped up that nothing can cloud my mind.

    I know I need to quit and I will. Back in december I took the plunge and "dropped out" of Penn State University to pursue business ventures and the likes. I couldn't bring myself to shell out thousands of dollars that I didn't have to do exactly what I'm doing now! That was my biggest life change so far and life hasn't been better!

    This will be my next major move and from that point. I vow to never be a typical employee again!

    As for your pay raise statement. I definitely feel entitled to more pay for the results that I am producing. I wouldn't even have to worry about that if I was fully self sufficient.
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  • Profile picture of the author MayWJans
    Going down the path that you're going is a double edged sword in my opinion. You may think things will be better if your running the show, but that really depends on what type of person you are. If you are hyper focused and multi talented you may be able to pull it off, but if you don't or can't keep that up then watch out.

    I think you sound a lot like me. The grass looks greener on the other side, but the question is, is it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by AYCE View Post

    A bit of a rant post I guess. I'm in the office today and I get a call from our sales guying saying we have a customer who did not receive his RMA product which was promised to ship last week ( I told him this ). Well it's Friday and he hasn't gotten it ( Because I didn't ship it )

    I've worked at this tech company for about 6 months now and I do like it, but lately I'm reverting back to my old roots. "Unemployed" and happy.

    The original job position was stated that I would be handling tech support and marketing. Well I ended up doing graphic design, video production, website work & now as of late shipping as well.

    I have a ton of things to juggle during the day so I focus on the most important tasks and work my way down. Lately I've noticed that It is ridiculous to have to juggle each one of these tasks during the day and then get "scolded" for things that I was unable to complete when I have a bunch of other important things going as well.

    Ultimately, I'm planning my D day to escape this employee lifestyle and do whatever it takes to get my business moving and my first clients satisfied. I will not be giving myself the option to "fail" and end up at another job where the same process will begin again.

    Can anyone relate to this?
    Running your own business is harder than what you are doing now. And it takes more responsibility than you are showing.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by AYCE View Post

      I agree with you completely. But that is almost impossible because my passion lies with my business and discovering new income streams, etc. Not with the meaningless work that I do while at the office.

      The reason I have this job is because ultimately I fear failure, we all do. But being afraid is no excuse to do something that makes you miserable on a daily basis, so I am fighting my internal demons.
      yes, as others have said, when working you need to put 100% percent into it, or it becomes risky, although a lot of people surf the net and muck around a fair bit, so you might still squeeze some me time in?

      Originally Posted by nicheblogger75 View Post

      I can relate 100%. I was in a job where as others lost their jobs due to "downsizing," the responsibilities those people had were then split up among the remaining managers. This resulted in a "pile on" effect which absolutely damaged efficiency, and totally destroyed morale.

      In the company I worked for, we had weekly meetings. This was back in 2008 when the economy was really bad and the industry I worked in (Travel & Tourism), was one of the hardest hit. In our meetings, the mantra became "do more with less." Now, if you sit down and really analyze that statement, you will come to understand it's really not possible in most instances. In fact, it doesn't even make sense. They upper management loved to use that term, but when asked to explain what it meant, they seemed to be at a loss for words most of the time. That's because in reality, one cannot really do MORE when they have LESS.

      This is a common MO of many large, and even small, companies nowadays. They hire you under a certain job title and description, and as time goes on, they pile on more and more responsibility. However, all of this new responsibility usually NEVER comes with a raise in pay. Inevitably, the employee begins to experience exactly what's happening to the OP. The work load becomes impossible for one person, so the employee does what the OP did and prioritizes his/her work based on importance, which is the only logical thing an employee in these circumstances can do.

      As time goes on, the employee falls farther and farther behind, and some tasks end up left undone and/or totally forgotten. This is not the employee's fault, as the employee has pretty much been left to accomplish the jobs of 2 or 3 people. The company, of course, still expects all of this work to be done in the same amount of hours, especially if the employee is paid hourly and overtime is involved. If the employee is salaried management, it normally results in the employee working far more than the standard 40-45 hours per week that the salary is based on.

      This is exactly why when I ended up being "downsized" after I had worked myself to the bone thinking that the company would take care of me if I worked harder and took on more responsibility and did not ask for more pay, I vowed NEVER to work for anyone else ever again.

      And I haven't...
      Hmmm, spot on, but they then hire an efficiency expert to rummage through the organization, so everyone for a while acts like they are on steriods, and the workplace becomes a nightmare!

      I have seen that happen a few times, and it is pretty ugly!

      Originally Posted by AYCE View Post

      It's just not worth it! My vision of what I want and understanding of how the world and the working class works just doesn't add up. Time for money is not the most efficient means of earning an income!

      I took on this job because I really felt that it's something I needed to do to stay afloat, as well as the pressure from family members as well. Last summer I made a livable income from picking up a few freelance web design gigs as well as tutoring PC, MAC & Software skills and I loved it!

      I've also been listening to Bob Proctor lately and he get's me so energized and hyped up that nothing can cloud my mind.

      I know I need to quit and I will. Back in december I took the plunge and "dropped out" of Penn State University to pursue business ventures and the likes. I couldn't bring myself to shell out thousands of dollars that I didn't have to do exactly what I'm doing now! That was my biggest life change so far and life hasn't been better!

      This will be my next major move and from that point. I vow to never be a typical employee again!

      As for your pay raise statement. I definitely feel entitled to more pay for the results that I am producing. I wouldn't even have to worry about that if I was fully self sufficient.
      Yes, couldn't agree more, l don't get it either!

      Work 35 - 45 years, save up about 100k in your 401 or super and then usually blow the lot on retirement on a holiday, etc, then go on the pension and try to stay above utility and medical costs!

      But in the short term, having a yearly holiday, raising a family and getting married makes more sense!

      What l am doing now, (graphics) is compounding income, or the more l do the bigger it becomes, (more so, for seasonal flyers).

      Up until now, speed has been a problem, but a professional author has helped me out in that area!

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    What's going on in here?
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      What's going on in here?
      The OP bailed. But we don't care.

      Post #4 has the original post.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

        Hoo-ha, is precisely right.

        Take something that you love more than anything in life. Turn it into your job. See how long it takes you to totally hate what you are doing. :-)

        Cheers. - Frank
        Yes, l could have done that in 2008 with Ceramics, but since professionals had already lost about $200 a week from their $1000 profits, l knew that this financial storm was only gonna get worse, so l went online!

        Now l can do something that conpounds itself, has the whole world as a customer base, and l don't have to physically produce to earn, (which is probably the point you trying to make)?

        I would rather do what l love/like to do and climb a hill, than do what l love to do, and scale a cliff!


        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        The OP bailed. But we don't care.

        Post #4 has the original post.
        Sounds like someone who he works for or with knows about this one?

        Maybe he will be able to work for himself sooner, than he realizes?

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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          What's going on in here?
          OP didn't like the responses - so he gathered up his words and stomped off....
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            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            OP didn't like the responses - so he gathered up his words and stomped off....
            and it only took 3 hours, hmmm, seems too easy

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