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Notice this thread....this could be important to you

by AprilCT
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Anyone else get an email regarding a threat to online privacy from your website provider? Here is what I got, in part, from mine. I can contact my provider for info on calling ICANN with my perspective, but here is what I found on the Net for anyone who might want a different office: https://www.icann.org/resources/page...-2012-02-06-en

"ICANN is considering introducing a rule that would impact all netizens. If you care about your online privacy, this is a big deal. Under new guidelines proposed by MarkMonitor and other organizations who represent the same industries that backed SOPA, domain holders with sites associated to "commercial activity" will no longer be able to protect their private information with WHOIS protection services.
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There's no time to waste -- the close date for comments is July 7, 2015.
  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    This is actually a rule dating back MANY years! Some used to register domains under "mickey mouse", "Daffy duck", etc... Those are ACTUAL REAL examples! ICANN said that people had to give REAL contact info, that may be audited. If it is audited, and fails, you can lose the domain name! But a couple years later, they mandated that tier 1 "registrars"(like godaddy) keep contact info, and manage the who is database. Of course, they started adding the proxys, etc... Frankly, I was wondering when the shoe would drop again.

    Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      Steve, I think this is about revealing your actual name, address, etc. for those people who previously used a privacy provider where you pay a fee the service. It's not that you use a fake name when you sign up for the website and privacy protection, and, when using "who is," your actual real name does not show up, but at the present moment, the fee you paid means there is contact information through a privacy provider.

      I'm pretty tired and don't think I am explaining this very well. So, if you wanted to contact the real owner of a website instead of the privacy provider contact information, it would then be possible the website provider and/or the privacy provider has to divulge it if the change is made - or maybe do away with privacy providers and just show up in who is with all your information.

      That's not good. Some writers have websites to promote books and use author names for different genres and don't want the names connected. Likely there are affiliate links on the site, so that would make it a commercial site and subject to the proposed change.

      Far too much opportunity for the nuts out there to stalk people at their family's home, etc. I don't think a lot of people want their personal information on the Internet, nor is it fair just because someone is earning from the Internet. So much opportunity for serious abuse could result.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

        Steve, I think this is about revealing your actual name, address, etc
        RIGHT! What did you think I was talking about? WHAT, you think someone writes a name like Mickey Mouse, and gives THEIR real contact info? I DOUBT IT! The idea of the whois is NOT to identify who owns the domain name. They have IDs, credentials, and internal records for that. The idea is that a person can contact them if things are stolen, spam occurs, etc.... HECK, they have like 3 different whois records. As I recall, there is owner, admin, and tech. They do the SAME thing with companies! A DBA covers a sole proprietorship, and the documents of corporation, etc... cover THOSE places.

        for those people who previously used a privacy provider where you pay a fee the service. It's not that you use a fake name when you sign up for the website and privacy protection, and, when using "who is," your actual real name does not show up, but at the present moment, the fee you paid means there is contact information through a privacy provider.
        YEAH, originally there was NO provision for a privacy provider, and I doubt there is one now. They simply had access to the records, and started the business of hiding the info. Ask yourself this interesting question. WHY was there info to hide? Heck, it is harder to find details on even a persons home or car. And it also wasn't to be able to have a third party contact. That was ALWAYS possible. They don't do this for free and, if money changes hands, there is generally a record.

        I'm pretty tired and don't think I am explaining this very well. So, if you wanted to contact the real owner of a website instead of the privacy provider contact information, it would then be possible the website provider and/or the privacy provider has to divulge it if the change is made - or maybe do away with privacy providers and just show up in who is with all your information.

        That's not good. Some writers have websites to promote books and use author names for different genres and don't want the names connected. Likely there are affiliate links on the site, so that would make it a commercial site and subject to the proposed change.

        Far too much opportunity for the nuts out there to stalk people at their family's home, etc. I don't think a lot of people want their personal information on the Internet, nor is it fair just because someone is earning from the Internet. So much opportunity for serious abuse could result.
        HEY, there WAS a time when they insisted that people follow the rules. THAT was prior to perhaps 2003. There WAS a time when they instigated audits, years before that. So if it is done, it would NOT be the first time. And YEAH, I don't like it also, but I am saying it has been done. There are websites out there that actually have a "BUSINESS MODEL" of EXTORTION! And there are scammers and the like, and THEY are the reason for such rules.

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Yes, I got the same notice. It's a real problem to me just for the reasons you mentioned. Stalking. They are risking the lives of anyone and everyone who owns a website with this one. You can have your address withheld even in a phone book if you don't want joe blow finding out where you live. There's not one rat's patoot of good in this one. As long as the address is actually registered, if there's a legal problem, the host/server whatever can give the address to legal authorities if necessary. This is just a breech of personal safety and nothing else.
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