Do Americans support this idiot?

KimW

16 years ago

Ron,
America is overrun with idiots in the media.
This lady is just one of many.

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Originally Posted by KimW

Ron,
America is overrun with idiots in the media.
This lady is just one of many.

Yeah, but she's hot!
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- KimW 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by NTN
  
  Yeah, but she's hot!
  
  Of course I had to go back and look after you said that, and she really aint nuthing special.
  
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  seasoned 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by KimW
  
  Of course I had to go back and look after you said that, and she really aint nuthing special.
  
  I meant to do the same, because I didn't think she looked so great either. Yeah, I wouldn't call her hot. Then again, I wouldn't call her cool either. What IS the opposite of hot? COLD, luke warm?
  
  And it looks like they tried to find the worst picture in a video.
  
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- MintSEO 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by NTN
  
  Yeah, but she's hot!
  
  Who's hot...do tell hehe
  
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  seasoned 16 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by BlackpoolHolidays
  
  Who's hot...do tell hehe
  
  Who knows, maybe she had the flu!
  
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seasoned

16 years ago

We do similar things in the US! Deer hunting and other types of hunting are allowed to reduce disease and limit population.

And one IDIOT here broke FEDERAL law! He was one of the IDIOT believers that believed that a snakehead fish could save his sick relative, so he decided to bring the contraband to the US ILLEGALLY! In fact, he brought a BREEDING PAIR! Well, his relative got better WITHOUT the fish. You know what that idiot did? He put them in a pond! ONE PROBLEM!!!!!!!! They are VORACIOUS! They eat ANYTHING! They BREED like crazy! They can WALK ****ON LAND****!!!!!! So they found their way to large lakes, etc....

Snakehead Scientific Advisory Panel First Report to the Maryland Secretary of Natural Resources

A radio show was offering MONEY for people to KILL THEM! And YES, that was in the US!

The scifi channel actually had a horror movie that wasn't THAT far from the truth. They portray the fish as being a bit more nimble, with a taste for humans and, in a later segment, bigger due to some idiot throwing steroids in to make domestic fish bigger, but that IS how they treat NON humans!

Consider this ONE paragraph:

The northern snakehead has been found to live in stagnant shallow ponds, swamps and slow streams with mud or vegetated substrate, with temperatures ranging from 0 to >30oC. The diets of adults are mostly made up of small fish, although some may be as large as one-third of the predator's body length. In addition to fish, the northern snakehead has been known to eat frogs, crustaceans, and insect larvae. It reaches sexual maturity in 2 to 3 years and approximately 30-35 cm (12-14 inches) in length and maximum size exceeds 85 cm (33 inches). Females release 1,300 to 15,000 eggs per spawn, which can occur 1 to 5 times per year. The floating eggs take 28 hours to hatch at 31oC, 45 hours at 25oC and much longer at cooler temperatures. Larvae remain in a nest guarded by their parents until yolk absorption is complete at approximately 8 mm in length. At approximately 18 mm the young begin feeding on small crustaceans and fish larvae. The northern snakehead has been reported to be an obligate airbreather, which means that it can live in oxygen-depleted waters by gulping air at the water's surface and survive several days out of water if kept moist.

Can you imagine a fish SO big that can eat SO much and SO large creatures that can walk for days and ONE couple could conceivably have 37500 offspring a year!?!?!? That is SCARY! GRANTED, even mosquitos might eat the little ones, but 37500 is STILL a LOT! And the parents will EAT many possible predators.

So YEAH, we know ALL too well how ONE species could destroy everything.

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Michael Motley

16 years ago

She's a financial analyst. What she knows of the environmental impact of camels on the australian outback would probably fit on the head of a pin.

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sandsbeck

16 years ago

not a chance

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Thomas

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Ron Kerr

Re: Do Americans support this idiot?

Dunno what the Yanks themselves think of her, but I doubt Kevin Rudd gives a flying f*ck what some no-name glorified newsreader 10,000 miles away thinks of him.

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ThomM

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas

Dunno what the Yanks themselves think of her, but I doubt Kevin Rudd gives a flying f*ck what some no-name glorified newsreader 10,000 miles away thinks of him.

Don't know about the rest of America, but that pretty much sums up how I feel about it.

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seasoned

16 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

Don't know about the rest of America, but that pretty much sums up how I feel about it.

Yeah. I am not crazy about hurting animals myself. Some IDIOTS here started building into the forest, a woman jogs down a dirt road that borders the forest, gets attacked by a mountain lion, and everyone gets all up in arms. HECK, the mountain lion was probably SCARED, and trying to protect her territory. Frankly, I don't think she deserved all the hostility. I have had frogs in my front yard, a family of rabbits have lived under my deck, I have a ground hog in my back yard, at least one chipmunk rests in my flower beds, and every now and then deer come by. HECK, I recently slowed down at a local mall so some geese could cross! I RESPECT, and LIKE the wildlife. EVEN the robins that attack my home!

But I certainly DO understand how wildlife can get out of hand. Camels really DON'T belong in australia. If that newscaster that really IS, as thomas so eloquently put it, just a glorified reader, REALLY feels bad, she can simply try to mount an effort to bring the camels somewhere else. I imagine it would cost a LOT! Maybe she feels the same about the snake fish. Those snake fish can go into a lake, eat ALL the fish, ALL the insects, MOST of the vegetation, and then just move to another lake! Some lakes here have been self sustaining for over a hundred years and have been a place for families and fishing, and supported with tax dollars as parts of national parks. EVERY such place in such a park can be wiped out by just ONE pair of snakeheads!!!!!!

And deerticks have been responsible for one of the worst scourges in the US.

I hope you realize that the US is NOT one group of people that all feel the same way. And some want everyone ELSE to allow freedom and save everything as long as those people don't have to deal with it themselves.

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ThomM

16 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Yeah. I am not crazy about hurting animals myself. Some IDIOTS here started building into the forest, a woman jogs down a dirt road that borders the forest, gets attacked by a mountain lion, and everyone gets all up in arms. HECK, the mountain lion was probably SCARED, and trying to protect her territory. Frankly, I don't think she deserved all the hostility. I have had frogs in my front yard, a family of rabbits have lived under my deck, I have a ground hog in my back yard, at least one chipmunk rests in my flower beds, and every now and then deer come by. HECK, I recently slowed down at a local mall so some geese could cross! I RESPECT, and LIKE the wildlife. EVEN the robins that attack my home!

But I certainly DO understand how wildlife can get out of hand. Camels really DON'T belong in australia. If that newscaster that really IS, as thomas so eloquently put it, just a glorified reader, REALLY feels bad, she can simply try to mount an effort to bring the camels somewhere else. I imagine it would cost a LOT! Maybe she feels the same about the snake fish. Those snake fish can go into a lake, eat ALL the fish, ALL the insects, MOST of the vegetation, and then just move to another lake! Some lakes here have been self sustaining for over a hundred years and have been a place for families and fishing, and supported with tax dollars as parts of national parks. EVERY such place in such a park can be wiped out by just ONE pair of snakeheads!!!!!!

And deerticks have been responsible for one of the worst scourges in the US.

I hope you realize that the US is NOT one group of people that all feel the same way. And some want everyone ELSE to allow freedom and save everything as long as those people don't have to deal with it themselves.

Steve

You should see me at work Steve.
I mow about 9 Time Warner hubs. These are locations that are for the most part in the boonies plus I only do them every 2 weeks or once a month so everything grows pretty high.
Baby rabbits and snakes are all other these places and I hate to injure either of them. Plus you have the toads, frogs, and other various small furry and non-furry critters hiding out in the grass.
But when you have non-native species invading the ecosystem and destroying it, well kill them all I say.

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HeySal

16 years ago

So YEAH, we know ALL too well how ONE species could destroy everything.

Steve

There IS one species destroying everything - it's called Homo Sapien and it is the
most destructive species to ever walk the face of the planet.

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seasoned

16 years ago

Originally Posted by renault760

Absolutely spot on Sal.

Some people go on about how great "God" is, well I say this;

If I was some kind of "super being", capable of creating something as beautiful as the Earth, I certainly wouldn't want it getting trashed by one aggressive, destructive species like Man.

I'd have eradicated the "pests" a few of centuries ago!

Humans on the Earth are no better than green fly on a rose. LG.

I'm certainly NOT disagreeing with you. But at least some humans DO see the good in some vermin, and try to even limit THEIR destruction.

Still, we are all humans, so we try not to denigrate our species TOO much. 8-/

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TLTheLiberator

16 years ago

Originally Posted by renault760

Absolutely spot on Sal.

Some people go on about how great "God" is, well I say this;

If I was some kind of "super being", capable of creating something as beautiful as the Earth, I certainly wouldn't want it getting trashed by one aggressive, destructive species like Man.

I'd have eradicated the "pests" a few of centuries ago!

Humans on the Earth are no better than green fly on a rose. LG.

The quote by LG is quite silly.

And...

I wouldn't blame the whole human race - just the rich and greedy.

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seasoned

16 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

The quote by LG is quite silly.

And...

I wouldn't blame the whole human race - just the rich and greedy.

TL

Keep in mind that there IS a reason why they say rich AND greedy. And frankly I hate the poor that are so greedy that they want what anyone has without ANY expense. Anyone that is not fair should be a pariah!

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Chuck Avants

16 years ago

Humans are the cause of everything. Eradication is the only choice.

Yes humans---I say kill 'em all.
Then we don't have to worry about the snail darter becoming extinct.

Or camels being killed in the dessert.
Or stupid media people spouting off about it.
Or greedy people--whether they are rich or poor.
Or the rain forests being cut down.

We may still have to worry about global warming though because all those cows and camels produce a lot of methane gas that supposedly warms the air. OH WAIT----we wouldn't have to worry about anything would we.

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seasoned

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Chuck Avants

Humans are the cause of everything. Eradication is the only choice.

Yes humans---I say kill 'em all.
Then we don't have to worry about the snail darter becoming extinct.

Or camels being killed in the dessert.
Or stupid media people spouting off about it.
Or greedy people--whether they are rich or poor.
Or the rain forests being cut down.

We may still have to worry about global warming though because all those cows and camels produce a lot of methane gas that supposedly warms the air. OH WAIT----we wouldn't have to worry about anything would we.

It turns out that a study was done! They are no longer following guidelines for the eweather monitoring stations! Some are too close to a heat source, many are painted with regular paint rather than the ironically required WHITEWASH, etc....

http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpre...t_spring09.pdf

So the CREATED difference is just about the supposed difference, and the global warming is NOT real!!!!

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TiborSzalay 16 years ago

Yes, it is stupid
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16 years ago

Originally Posted by renault760

Ok, I concede that amongst the billions of humans crawling all over the earth that there will be a small, very small percentage that could be described as genuinely "good", (and please note, I'm not including myself in that small, select group. I'm just not blind to how bad we actually are).

Humans, by and large, are all "greedy". And stupid with it.

We don't really care about the future, just so long as we can have what we want, NOW.

I dunno I haven't caught any animal planning out further than 6 months. Some scratches on the wall and a few nests but no blueprints or to do lists. However I do admit I haven't watched National Geographics in awhile so maybe they have come up. I can't see any species that doesn't want it now.

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seasoned

16 years ago

Originally Posted by nontemplates

I dunno I haven't caught any animal planning out further than 6 months. Some scratches on the wall and a few nests but no blueprints or to do lists. However I do admit I haven't watched National Geographics in awhile so maybe they have come up. I can't see any species that doesn't want it now.

Nests tend to be for the female, and built by the male. He does it because he HOPES she'll approve and accept him. So animals DO plan out. MAYBE not more than 6 months, but they have plans.

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Kurt

16 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Nests tend to be for the female, and built by the male. He does it because he HOPES she'll approve and accept him. So animals DO plan out. MAYBE not more than 6 months, but they have plans.

Steve

Got any proof that this is a thought out plan instead of just being instinct?

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seasoned

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Got any proof that this is a thought out plan instead of just being instinct?

Well, a lot of people will belabor the point. Heck, a "higher species" might say the discovery/use of penicillin is due to curiosity, and call that an instinct and say WE show no evidence of thought. They may hold money up as an example of a reward and say we are no more than trained monkeys. They may hold up drawings and writing as mere scribbling or something akin to cave drawings. I showed my aunt what I considered proof that her dog could tell when I was obviously lying, how he anticipated where a ball might land, and showed frustration when he figured I wasn't going to throw it. I couldn't convince her. I STILL don't know how she would explain that the dog was SO willing to go the first time, and the second time was almost staring me down as if to say "Throw the stupid ball, OK!?".

In any event, he DOES do this for her, and hope she'll approve. You ever see a robin trying to attract a mate, or fend off a competitor? I have. Instinct or not, it is planning and expectation.

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Kurt

16 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Well, a lot of people will belabor the point. Heck, a "higher species" might say the discovery/use of penicillin is due to curiosity, and call that an instinct and say WE show no evidence of thought. They may hold money up as an example of a reward and say we are no more than trained monkeys. They may hold up drawings and writing as mere scribbling or something akin to cave drawings. I showed my aunt what I considered proof that her dog could tell when I was obviously lying, how he anticipated where a ball might land, and showed frustration when he figured I wasn't going to throw it. I couldn't convince her. I STILL don't know how she would explain that the dog was SO willing to go the first time, and the second time was almost staring me down as if to say "Throw the stupid ball, OK!?".

Steve

Totally bogus "logic". Birds of the same species will build similar nests without being taught. Same as bees and wasps. Honey bees build combs the same way, whether they live in Nevada or Canada. This is INSTINCT.

On the other hand, your dog LEARNED a behavior. The monkey "aped" behavior.

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seasoned

16 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Totally bogus "logic". Birds of the same species will build similar nests without being taught. Same as bees and wasps. Honey bees build combs the same way, whether they live in Nevada or Canada. This is INSTINCT.

On the other hand, your dog LEARNED a behavior. The monkey "aped" behavior.

The male will refine the nest if it is bad. The DOG was not TAUGHT that behaviour. It was my second attempt, and I didn't make it obvious. He simply started to suspect, and acted accordingly. Each time he wanted more evidence that the ball was actually thrown.

I swear, even his EXPRESSION seemed to fit!

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MikeAmbrosio 16 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

I swear, even his EXPRESSION seemed to fit!

LOL - that reminded me of a golden retriever we had. When you told her to smile she would bare her teeth. It was the goofiest smile you ever did see.

She was a good dog.
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16 years ago

Originally Posted by Ron Kerr

What do you think?

The problem with free speech is that you tend to get what you pay for.

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haikuangel

16 years ago

I think that as the "superior" species we should be able to think of a more humane solution that killing off innocent animals, after all we introduced them to this habitat and created the ecosystem imbalance to begin with. It's so typical for human beings to find that the best solution to problems which we create is by either ignoring or killing it.

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seasoned

16 years ago

Originally Posted by haikuangel

I think that as the "superior" species we should be able to think of a more humane solution that killing off innocent animals, after all we introduced them to this habitat and created the ecosystem imbalance to begin with. It's so typical for human beings to find that the best solution to problems which we create is by either ignoring or killing it.

Let me make one thing clear. I did not present ANY creature to the australian habitat! I doubt I did any similar thing EVER! I bet nobody else here did either. And don't lump me together with some idiot that did because they appear humanoid.

Unfortunately, there is no way to truly humanely deal with so many creatures. I think the only HUMANE thing would be a huge reserve, but that requires a lot of planning. Will YOU pay for it?

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Michael Motley

16 years ago

How many starving people are there in australia? Or africa? i bet a camel burger would hit the spot about now for most people in ethiopia

I would think that in a place like australia camels would be somewhat useful as beasts of burden. If not, start a chain of CamelBurger stands

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john_kennedy

16 years ago

What is CNBC? Never heard of it...lol!

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seasoned

16 years ago

Originally Posted by john_kennedy

What is CNBC? Never heard of it...lol!

I don't know if you are kidding, but NBC is a big network in the US, and CNBC is their cable equivalent. CNBC U.S. Television, TV Schedule for Primetime Television Programs - CNBC.com

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john_kennedy

16 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

I don't know if you are kidding, but NBC is a big network in the US, and CNBC is their cable equivalent. CNBC U.S. Television, TV Schedule for Primetime Television Programs - CNBC.com

Steve

Thanks Steve,

Did you not notice the lol? CNBC is so far left leaning that it is a wonder they can stay in their chairs. I wouldn't watch that network even under the threat of torture. Wait....that would be torture.

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seasoned

16 years ago

Originally Posted by john_kennedy

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Did you not notice the lol? CNBC is so far left leaning that it is a wonder they can stay in their chairs. I wouldn't watch that network even under the threat of torture. Wait....that would be torture.

John

Somehow, I DID miss the lol. 8-(

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HeySal

16 years ago

If the problem has been reported by a corporate run news channel - there may just not be a real problem but rather ulterior corporate motives at work.
Before anyone decides anything it would be to their advantage to find out what the actual scientists dealing with the issue have to say about it. They are the experts - not news, corporations, or politicians.

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MikeAmbrosio

16 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

If the problem has been reported by a corporate run news channel - there may just not be a real problem but rather ulterior corporate motives at work.
Before anyone decides anything it would be to their advantage to find out what the actual scientists dealing with the issue have to say about it. They are the experts - not news, corporations, or politicians.

Do you have any idea how most scientists are supported?

Corporations and politicians.

So, just how unbiased would you say they are?

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Thomas

16 years ago

Originally Posted by renault760

Humans on the Earth are no better than green fly on a rose ...

Originally Posted by renault760

... I'm just not blind to how bad we actually are ... Humans, by and large, are all "greedy" ... I think that the world is going to be a pretty bleak place in the future.

Originally Posted by renault760

... we are, after all, simply 'animals' ... we can't really be thought of as anything other than a parasite.

With an outlook like that, I wonder how you can even bring yourself to get out of bed in the morning?

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