Need Your Input Please - Techie Problem (Cell Phone)

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Imagine this scenario:

Your 3G mobile phone data service works everywhere all the time basically.

Then you travel to a distant city and stay at a motel. When you have stayed there before, the connection was sketchy - sometimes good, sometimes bad, sometimes fast, sometimes slow. This time it is fast and clear from the time you check in at let's say 9:00 PM to 7:00 AM or so. Then it stops.

When it stops, the up arrow on the internet/data connection indicator on your phone lights up but the down one does not.

You go out into the city (where the connection has always been good - it's always just been this one hotel in this area that was a problem) and there is no way to connect at all. Up arrow but no down arrow. The phone part works fine.

You recently bought a new cell phone and change the sim card for testing purposes and the same thing happens. When the old phone works the new one does and when not it doesn't.

You've rebooted, restored the phone, plugged it in, wiggled the sim card and all those kinds of tech support requests multiple times.

The second night at the hotel about 10:00 or so you get a good connection until about 6:00 AM then it all goes away again including the ability to connect out in the big city during the day.

The third night the same thing happens.

What could be the cause of this?

1. It doesn't seem like it would be the phone since both the old and new exhibit the same behavior at the same time.

2. It may be something with the account where Internet access was disabled or something but why at the same time every night it goes back on and then off again in the morning?

3. It may be some kind of interference or placement of the hotel that interferes with the signal. But why would the signal be clean and clear at 11:00 at night and then completely go away in the morning. Also this wouldn't account for no signal out in the city during the day.

4. It could be an error at the phone company but it would seem that every 3G customer would be having the same symptoms.

Please, if anyone has any ideas please share them. We are going crazy. Tech support is going in circles and the only thing they can come up with when they go through each scenario is it's a 3G vs. 4G problem and we should upgrade this phone's plan. We know that 4G at this motel and in this city with this company works great on a new phone. But why would 3G have this kind of totally erratic behavior? And why could I connect on the same 3G plan last month out in the city but not now - at all.

Thanks in advance.
Mark
  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    Do you have to pay for WIFI at the hotel? We don't charge extra for WIFI at my hotel so it's on 24/7.
    I've heard of hotels that charge x amount for 24 hours, so maybe the default setting is that the 24 hours ends at 7am. Just a guess.

    Or maybe they have a cell phone blocker so you pay to use their system. And, the manager is on duty at 7am and he or she turns on the blocker, whereas the night crew does not care or is just tired of hearing guests complain about having to pay to use the hotel's system when they are already paying a lot monthly for 3g or 4g plans.

    Maybe time to upgrade to 4g for the city. The provider could be giving 4g more importance
    on the switches or whatever at the antennas.

    Where I live, we had a cell tower go down - literally, from the wind, I think. It was on top of a mountain and the access was very difficult. So, they just ignored it for awhile and that provider
    lost a lot of customers out here.

    A landline repair guy told me that the competing providers would jack with each others' equipment
    every chance they got. For example, Comcast is really sort of a reseller for whatever original phone company. In my area, after the ATT divestiture, it became Mountain Bell, then Quest, and now Century Link. So Century Link lets Comcast, for a fee, use their lines. Sometimes even though they compete, they access the same switching stations for repairs. SO, I'm thinking that it is the same where they share antennas.

    Another thing a lot of my customers who use ATT for cell service tell me is that it is lousy on Fridays or Sundays when people are "exodusing" to or from the mountain weekend get away. It could be the sheer volume overloads the system, or (just a new silly thought here) maybe the Dept. of Transportation is jamming to get people to keep their attention on the road.

    Dan

    PS. At the hotel, maybe the system, or some equipment, used by a neighboring building is overwhelming the hotel's system or signal. 7 AM-ish would be about the time for an office building to fire up.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      The headache from this is just too much to bear and not worth it. I have enough trouble with home internet wifi, like my range extender losing connection and the fact I cant connect to the 5 gightz band except for a few days after a router re-boot (or after a power cut)

      I have solved a lot of my software/hardware problems just by upgrading to the latest stuff, most simply vanishes, gets better as it goes on. The fact that the Tec's cant solve it speaks volumes. So I advise to forget about troubleshooting and upgrade.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    This hotel doesn't sell WIFI access even though I wondered if one of the neighbors was running something that would interfere during the day and then they turn it off when they go to bed. But that wouldn't account for being out in the city and still not having access.

    Upgrading may be the only option - it's time for one anyway. I just hate practically being forced into it.

    Thanks for the input.
    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      This hotel doesn't sell WIFI access even though I wondered if one of the neighbors was running something that would interfere during the day and then they turn it off when they go to bed. But that wouldn't account for being out in the city and still not having access.

      Upgrading may be the only option - it's time for one anyway. I just hate practically being forced into it.

      Thanks for the input.
      Mark
      I use a Net10 cell phone. Net10 uses Verizon networks. I used to have better signal with 3G than the people who had the 4G smart phones. Recently, I have noticed that it seems to be the other way around. So, I think that's primarily the answer - the providers are putting more emphasis on 4G with newer 4G equipment in their systems.
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