Taking it to the Streets

7 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnJames

I've hit rock bottom. I've tried really hard to make money from home...well, not My home... My pregnant wife and I live at my aunt's house.

I have no car. No jobs will hire me. Most online jobs seem to be scams or give me no consideration. I'm so sick of being scammed and used by this society that just want's to suck out every penny from me.

The only way I can make decent money is begging. I made $33 in one day a few days ago. It's all I can do, apparently. Now I know why people work the streets.

Why are you telling us?

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HeySal

7 years ago

When desperate and nobody else will hire you --

There are staffing agencies that will pay you daily for a day of work. The jobs are usually not pleasant - some are hard labor. Yet others aren't all that bad. You will get minimum wage for most of them, but a even a few days of daily minimum wage can change your outlook and stability.

I've used these agencies whenever I am new in town and need to have money coming in immediately while I find "real" work. They never send me anywhere that is too physical for me to do a few days of work. I actually work for one now because I'm new here and am fussy about what job I will take permanently. They have a job two or three days a week they send me to that I completely enjoy. It keeps me in cash while I look for something more in my professional lines, and I've met a few people that could be very good contacts to have when permanent jobs open up in the right departments of those companies, because I specifically asked for and am qualified for those types of jobs (event coordinating). They already got to check out my work ethics, too, and have chatted with me about my goals in my new community. If you aren't an egoist who thinks that a job you are over-qualified for is beneath you, there are nothing but pluses in going to one of these agencies.

There are a lot of people that go to these agencies that are in very desperate mode and without transportation, but are willing to do a good job for minimal pay and some decent references -- and even those people frown on begging. What if someone that might give you a good job sees you begging? Are they going to hire you then? Probably not - unless your sign reads "Need job - have one to offer?"

I suggest you get down to a daily pay staffing agency. They will at least give you a chance to prove yourself and provide a decent reference for you when you do. You will get paid every day after work so never will be completely without money for food or a bus, whatever. Once you prove yourself, they will give you top preference for your choice of jobs, too.

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David Beroff

7 years ago

I agree with Sal. The largest day-labor firm in the US seems to be LaborReady:
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(and of course, there are also temp agencies which often have less labor-intensive work, but not always as many positions).

And, as always:
http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ate-index.html

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seasoned

7 years ago

Even at the MINIMUM WAGE, you will make more than $33/day! Average day,8 hours, and many jobs really only have you work 7 hours! So the 8 hours is CLOCK HOURS! Anyway, 8 CLOCK HOURS, at minimum wage is $58! GRANTED, you have TAXES taken out, but you can get a lot as a refund. EVEN BEGGARS are supposed to file taxes! GRANTED most get away with NOT filing but if you are caught.....

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David Beroff

7 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Even at the MINIMUM WAGE, you will make more than $33/day! Average day,8 hours, and many jobs really only have you work 7 hours! So the 8 hours is CLOCK HOURS! Anyway, 8 CLOCK HOURS, at minimum wage is $58! GRANTED, you have TAXES taken out, but you can get a lot as a refund. EVEN BEGGARS are supposed to file taxes! GRANTED most get away with NOT filing but if you are caught.....

Steve, just a quick reality check: I've lived on the streets. Even day labor places are not a guarantee of work. You need to get in line at 4 or 5am in order to be early enough in the queue. (Oh, public transportation doesn't run that early? Sorry. Walk.) Breathe in lots of others' cigarette smoke. Wait until 7 or 8 or so, when they start handing out assignments. 8:30, 9 or so: Not enough assignments today? So sorry; try again tomorrow. So there's four hours or so, plus transit, wasted at $0/hour.

Even if one can get a minimum wage job, getting hired today typically means that you may see actual cash in about three weeks, not now.

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seasoned

7 years ago

Originally Posted by David Beroff

Steve, just a quick reality check: I've lived on the streets. Even day labor places are not a guarantee of work. You need to get in line at 4 or 5am in order to be early enough in the queue. (Oh, public transportation doesn't run that early? Sorry. Walk.) Breathe in lots of others' cigarette smoke. Wait until 7 or 8 or so, when they start handing out assignments. 8:30, 9 or so: Not enough assignments today? So sorry; try again tomorrow. So there's four hours or so, plus transit, wasted at $0/hour.

Even if one can get a minimum wage job, getting hired today typically means that you may see actual cash in about three weeks, not now.

Yeah, I know. The three weeks is probably more like 2. And "day labor", as I define it, is basically AS NEEDED, so a hallmark is the LACK of a guarantee. But I was talking about a JOB! I define a JOB as something at a SET RATE on an ON GOING BASIS! So do you have to be in a line? MAYBE! Do you have to be there early? MAYBE! do you have a delay in getting your first paycheck? LIKELY! BUT.....

1. Do you need assignments? NO WAY!
2. Do you need to apply every day? NO WAY!
3. Can they fire you tomorrow? LIKELY NOT!

But YEAH, getting off the street IS hard! Have I been there? NOPE! I hope I NEVER end up there! But I HAVE imagined it, and I can understand how hard it is. And YEAH, you DO kind of have to bootstrap your way out of that. ONE THING you pretty much NEED to do so is a CAR. Another is ATTITUDE! After getting cleaned up, and getting an OK place, I would work on attitude, and get a car!

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HeySal

7 years ago

Originally Posted by David Beroff

Steve, just a quick reality check: I've lived on the streets. Even day labor places are not a guarantee of work. You need to get in line at 4 or 5am in order to be early enough in the queue. (Oh, public transportation doesn't run that early? Sorry. Walk.) Breathe in lots of others' cigarette smoke. Wait until 7 or 8 or so, when they start handing out assignments. 8:30, 9 or so: Not enough assignments today? So sorry; try again tomorrow. So there's four hours or so, plus transit, wasted at $0/hour.

Even if one can get a minimum wage job, getting hired today typically means that you may see actual cash in about three weeks, not now.

Steve - reality check. People with no money do not buy cars. I am wondering what people who haven't ever crashed financially are even thinking when they say something like this.

David - Labor Ready has changed. If you have a mobile phone, they will text available jobs and you can text back if it's something you want - so no unpaid waiting. After you text them, if you are chosen, they just get back with you about where to go and when to be there.

In Reno, there are several agencies. The one I go through actually calls me now to ask if I'll go somewhere, and they know what I'll accept and what I won't. I get pleasant work because they can trust me. I work fun stuff like registration for participants of events and delivering cars to and from a car auction. I got paid to drive a hummer from Reno to Carson and wait for the Auction shuttle to pick me back up and then did the same with another kind of car. Then on days I want to go somewhere to talk to someone about a permanent position I want, I just take the day off and go - no full time obligation getting in the way. Since I mostly work contract anyway, this suits my normal way of life, it's just not quite as lucrative as my own contracts. Still a way to get into the community and get to know where you are and what's out there, etc.

I still do contracts online as well - and am doing some writing of my own for a site I'll be setting up soon, so getting my own business done. Sometimes I do gigs for companies directly, too. For instance - I worked for Mud Factor a few weekends ago at their obstacle mud run out here and made some good bucks for being there and had a total riot. Got REAL dirty, LOL. If I weren't having fun with it, I'd not bother with it. For me, though, I'm having quite a good time while looking for a real job. Some jobs are duds, but if you get one you don't like - it's only for a few days, there's no permanent commitment to break.

Check out the Craigslists "gigs" in your area, too. In some locations there's very often listing for work that just runs a few days that pay right on the spot and will get you some operating cash.

Also - in some States the social services offices will help you get to interviews - pay gas or bus tickets, etc. Some places will also have cars that are donated so you can have transportation. It would probably be helpful to show that you are signed up for some social service help to get a job to get a donated vehicle.

If you call 211 on your phone, there's an info line that you can tell what type of help you're looking for and they will tell you who offers the services.

Be inventive. Have you taken a pooper scooper around to houses where there are dogs and offered to clean up after the dogs for a small fee? Does the wife work? When I work full time I pay anyone that will do it to iron my clothes for me. I hate to iron and it's worth it to me for a buck per piece to have my clothes ironed. Get on Craigslist and offer any service you can fulfill. You might end up meeting someone who can and will be to your advantage in your hunt for full time work.

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seasoned

7 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Steve - reality check. People with no money do not buy cars. I am wondering what people who haven't ever crashed financially are even thinking when they say something like this.

THAT is why I suggested a USED car for like $3000. A NEW car would cost maybe 10 times that.

David - Labor Ready has changed. If you have a mobile phone, they will text available jobs and you can text back if it's something you want - so no unpaid waiting. After you text them, if you are chosen, they just get back with you about where to go and when to be there.

Well, MOST may want to talk to you or SOMETHING!

When I work full time I pay anyone that will do it to iron my clothes for me. I hate to iron and it's worth it to me for a buck per piece to have my clothes ironed.

Yeah, I can never iron my shirts just so. 8( I LOVE hot showers, so I close the door a little, bring the shirt in, and while I am showering, my shirt gets steam ironed! 8)

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Cali16

7 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

BTW GET A CAR! If you try, you can probably get a nice one for under $3000. That is only $300 a month, to pay cash in a year!

Steve, you're still not getting it. Someone who is resorting to begging for money and has no reliable income isn't in the position to spend $3000 on a used car. And they're certainly not going to be able to finance it, let alone pay for insurance, gas, and maintenance.

As to the OP's claim to "cure people's ailments through herbs/remedies"... Really? What, exactly, are you able to cure? Cancer? Arthritis? Fibromyalgia? Bipolar disorder? Seems to me such a valuable skill should easily solve all your financial problems... Cure a few people with your remedies and word of mouth alone will likely give you more "patients" than you can handle.

I'm all for natural remedies, but to make such a bold, blanket statement raises a red flag for me. It makes me wonder if magical thinking isn't at least part of the problem here.

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sbucciarel

Banned 7 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

Steve, you're still not getting it. Someone who is resorting to begging for money and has no reliable income isn't in the position to spend $3000 on a used car. And they're certainly not going to be able to finance it, let alone pay for insurance, gas, and maintenance.

As to the OP's claim to "cure people's ailments through herbs/remedies"... Really? What, exactly, are you able to cure? Cancer? Arthritis? Fibromyalgia? Bipolar disorder? Seems to me such a valuable skill should easily solve all your financial problems... Cure a few people with your remedies and word of mouth alone will likely give you more "patients" than you can handle.

I'm all for natural remedies, but to make such a bold, blanket statement raises a red flag for me. It makes me wonder if magical thinking isn't at least part of the problem here.

You're right about that Cali. Not only is it magical thinking, it can land you in jail. You cannot claim a cure for herbal remedies, particularly if you do not have a Dr.'s degree.

On March 24, 2008, Selmedica CEO Perry Belcher was arrested on charges of computer fraud over $10,000, imitating a licensed professional, and deceptive business practices.

Belcher sold supplements and made false claims in his "health" ebooks about cures.

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JohnJames

7 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

You're right about that Cali. Not only is it magical thinking, it can land you in jail. You cannot claim a cure for herbal remedies, particularly if you do not have a Dr.'s degree.

That's precisely why I don't pursue it.

Too much liability. I just help my friends and family. I've gotten my friend off of insulin dependency (from type 2 diabetes) and back to leading a normal life. I've brought another family member's high blood pressure back down to normal levels. I've also gotten a kid off of his asthma meds, and he no longer has attacks. I call them cures because that's what happens.

It's really sad though. The word "cure" is taboo in this country. They want everyone to put their faith in MD's and the big Pharma companies (which is a whole other story).

But still, it is my hobby, and it makes me feel really good when I can give people health.

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sbucciarel

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Originally Posted by JohnJames

That's precisely why I don't pursue it.

Too much liability. I just help my friends and family. I've gotten my friend off of insulin dependency (from type 2 diabetes) and back to leading a normal life. I've brought another family member's high blood pressure back down to normal levels. I've also gotten a kid off of his asthma meds, and he no longer has attacks. I call them cures because that's what happens.

It's really sad though. The word "cure" is taboo in this country. They want everyone to put their faith in MD's and the big Pharma companies (which is a whole other story).

But still, it is my hobby, and it makes me feel really good when I can give people health.

I personally am glad for the protection from Charlatans that our laws gives us. Any fool with a computer and Internet access can improve their blood sugar and blood pressure, without the use of herbs. To accurately diagnose a disease, you need tests, education and a license. To suggest treatment for disease, I'll stick with my Dr.s advice, along with my own research.

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Kay King 7 years ago

It's just very inconsistent, or maybe I can't market myself right.

Ya think? Yes, you need to "market yourself" - but that is a matter of building a good profile....providing well written and varied examples of your work....and bidding like crazy on jobs you want. Your bids need to be detailed and personable without being too long - and always be about the work rather than your needs.

When you start on a freelance site - it's a numbers game - once you get a high rating it's much easier to do. ...or you can say "I don't know how to...."

It's also something you and your wife can work at together over the long haul.

Edit: When I say "bidding like crazy" I don't mean putting in a bid and waiting to see what happens. I meant placing 50 bids minimum a day....and taking the best jobs offered.
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JohnJames

7 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

To suggest treatment for disease, I'll stick with my Dr.s advice,.

That's what most people do. I did that too until I got sick of getting sick. Drs are not required to take any preventative medicine or nutrition courses.

By the way, you're assuming I have no experience in the medical field. My degree was multidisciplinary focusing on biochemistry and research. After I learned what's really going on in the medical field, I decided not to pursue it any further. Furthermore, from 2006 to 2012 I was a test administrator for medical students at CSU and UNM. I know what these students research and it's largely funded by the manufacturers of the pharmaceutical drugs themselves. In other words, many such research methods are biased.

I'm not saying there isn't a place for medical professionals; there are things such as surgical procedures that they are highly trained and skilled at. But the mindset of many people is that "Since my medical professional is an expert at A, he must also be an expert at B and C since it's all health related." Think about this, Eastern medicine has been around for thousands of years, and yes, it is also based on a form of science. Western medicine has only been around a handful of centuries, and it's not like they built off of Eastern principles; they rejected them altogether. It's still in its infancy. Why can we find many Eastern "meds" without side effects (since most are food based), yet nearly all of our over-the-counter and prescription drugs have side effects?

One thing I've learned is that it's hard to pull someone away (psychologically) from what they've always believed is true for most of their life. Believe me, I've been hissed at and mocked when I share my research with people. But usually, it's the people most in need, willing to shed pieces of their dogma, that are open to learning other methods, and benefit the most.

Another example: My wife came down with PUPPPS, which is basically a rash due to poor-functioning liver (it's somewhat common for pregnant women). Her OB prescribed her an oral steroid, which has a risk factor for pregnant women. Well, PUPPPS is essentially the inability for the liver to adequately process bile acid concentrations. Therefore the excess overflows into the bloodstream creating a hive-like rash on the skin (extremely uncomfortable). I didn't want her to touch the steroid, she didn't either. Instead, we used a synergistic blend of dandelion root and nettle leaf, which act as both liver support and diuretic to enable the liver to function normally.

In 1 week her rash was completely gone. Her OB was dumbfounded. It was simply beyond her scope of expertise. But at the same time, I'm really glad we found a highly-qualified OB, whose proficiency is to deliver our child.

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Kay King

7 years ago

That's what most people do. I did that too until I got sick of getting sick. Drs are not required to take any preventative medicine or nutrition courses.

Just a suggestion - not wise to allow yourself to be pulled into discussions or debate about "healing".

If you can't make money from it - let it go for a while and focus on something that produces an INCOME.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Just a suggestion - not wise to allow yourself to be pulled into discussions or debate about "healing".

If you can't make money from it - let it go for a while and focus on something that produces an INCOME.

That makes sense. Like I said before, I don't actively pursue it. Too much liability in this country.

I was just answering a post that asked about my skills and education.

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sbucciarel Banned 7 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnJames

By the way, you're assuming I have no experience in the medical field. My degree was multidisciplinary focusing on biochemistry and research.

I'm assuming no such thing. I already read what your background was and was fully aware that you did not study to become a real Dr. But WF has had this alternative medicine vs mainstream medicine before, so that's all I'll say about it.

Regarding your predicament ... you have very few alternatives. You say maybe you aren't marketing yourself right and then list several mediocre (your words); skills you have. Mediocre doesn't sell. You need marketable skills if you want to make it online or offline. Somewhere in the middle of a desert with no car and no money means that you can't get out like a lot of people would do and do handyman work, landscaping work, dog walking, etc. like many would do in your shoes ... but you do seem to get out to beg ... that seems weird to me and really demeaning.

I suggest you turn some of your mediocre skills into marketable, advanced skills if you want to get anywhere.
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HeySal

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

Steve, you're still not getting it. Someone who is resorting to begging for money and has no reliable income isn't in the position to spend $3000 on a used car. And they're certainly not going to be able to finance it, let alone pay for insurance, gas, and maintenance.

As to the OP's claim to "cure people's ailments through herbs/remedies"... Really? What, exactly, are you able to cure? Cancer? Arthritis? Fibromyalgia? Bipolar disorder? Seems to me such a valuable skill should easily solve all your financial problems... Cure a few people with your remedies and word of mouth alone will likely give you more "patients" than you can handle.

I'm all for natural remedies, but to make such a bold, blanket statement raises a red flag for me. It makes me wonder if magical thinking isn't at least part of the problem here.

Seriously, Cali. I've cured cancer. I have the asthma that was once very dangerous under control with no doctors. HOWEVER - exactly how do you advertise your "services" when you are not licensed without going straight to jail for it? Medical is not a service that can be offered without the authorized education, certifications, and licenses. My 30 years of study, doesn't make me legal.

I did, however, write an ebook that tells the story of my little rescue and I and gives details on everything I did and used and why. What it does not do is say that you will get the same results or even that YOU should use the same thing. It just tells the true story of how I saved my little sweetie from a miserable death. I would think that if the OP is as experienced as he claims, he might be able to make some money telling his story, too. Somehow I get the idea in this case, that he might not be all that sharp about crossing legal lines while writing.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Seriously, Cali. I've cured cancer. I have the asthma that was once very dangerous under control with no doctors. HOWEVER - exactly how do you advertise your "services" when you are not licensed without going straight to jail for it? Medical is not a service that can be offered without the authorized education, certifications, and licenses. My 30 years of study, doesn't make me legal.

I did, however, write an ebook that tells the story of my little rescue and I and gives details on everything I did and used and why. What it does not do is say that you will get the same results or even that YOU should use the same thing. It just tells the true story of how I saved my little sweetie from a miserable death. I would think that if the OP is as experienced as he claims, he might be able to make some money telling his story, too. Somehow I get the idea in this case, that he might not be all that sharp about crossing legal lines while writing.

Sal,
Iam not here to discredit you and your Plight.

But it goes back to that old mantra Correlation does not necessary imply Causation.

Your remedies may have had NOTHING to do with your Cure.

It could have helped . Who knows. But you cannot 100% say that they were the reason for your Cure

Do you realize there have been documented cases where people with dire Malignancies who over time their body's inexplicably attacked and killed the Cancer completely ?

Its extremely rare but this has happened. And it had nothing to do with remedies. Or radiation or chemo for that matter !!

My point is we as humans are always looking for deeper meaning than there really is.

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dog8food

7 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Sal,
Iam not here to discredit you and your Plight.

But it goes back to that old mantra Correlation does not necessary imply Causation.

Your remedies may have had NOTHING to do with your Cure.

It could have helped . Who knows. But you cannot 100% say that they were the reason for your Cure

Do you realize there have been documented cases where people with dire Malignancies who over time their body's inexplicably attacked and killed the Cancer completely ?

Its extremely rare but this has happened. And it had nothing to do with remedies. Or radiation or chemo for that matter !!

My point is we as humans are always looking for deeper meaning than there really is.

I'll agree with you only if you add "medical science" to you list of remedies that may have NOTHING to do with cures. In the realm of research, you can never set up a study that controls for all possible variables.

Heck, the Chemo that you mentioned doesn't even work for many people with cancer.

Science itself didn't start out attempting to create facts. It's only dangerous when people believe it's so.

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discrat 7 years ago

Originally Posted by dog8food

Heck, the Chemo that you mentioned doesn't even work for many people with cancer.

Steve is that you LOL
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Kelley

7 years ago

Originally Posted by discrat

Sal,
Iam not here to discredit you and your Plight.

But it goes back to that old mantra Correlation does not necessary imply Causation.

Your remedies may have had NOTHING to do with your Cure.

It could have helped . Who knows. But you cannot 100% say that they were the reason for your Cure

Do you realize there have been documented cases where people with dire Malignancies who over time their body's inexplicably attacked and killed the Cancer completely ?

Its extremely rare but this has happened. And it had nothing to do with remedies. Or radiation or chemo for that matter !!

My point is we as humans are always looking for deeper meaning than there really is.

So called spontaneous remissions occur in 1 out of 100,000 cases. Yet when you look closely at them you'll find the person typically followed a natural protocol that the doctors claimed had nothing to do with it.

There is a book entitled Radical Remission that looks at a number of such cases and asks the patients what they did. The big take away besides the fact that each and every one did follow a natural program is that in none of the cases out of a couple hundred did any of the doctors write up the case as an interesting outcome which they most surely were duty bound to do.

IOW, there is no interest in the medical community to acknowledge or delve into this area of healing.

Meanwhile the cure for scurvy came from two sailors who recovered by eating citrus for six days. That happened back in 1753. It took a half century for wider acceptance, namely the British Navy.

Every doctor on the planet accepts the cure for scurvy from those two cases. Everyone without exception also accepts from one case per person that touching a hot stove is to be avoided. IOW it is unnecessary to accumulate a number of studies because the answers are sometimes obvious.

If scurvy were still incurable today, doctors would subject their patients to chemo and radiation and demand extensive studies before accepting that citrus cures scurvy. Cancer is in that boat today.

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Cali16

7 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

HOWEVER - exactly how do you advertise your "services" when you are not licensed without going straight to jail for it? Medical is not a service that can be offered without the authorized education, certifications, and licenses. My 30 years of study, doesn't make me legal.

Sal, of course I am fully aware of that. I was being a bit facetious in my post due to the bold claim the OP was making. From many prior discussions we've had here in the OT, you may recall that I'm not a huge fan of prescription drugs for many things.

That being said, I'm not completely against Western medicine and have seen pharmaceuticals save people's lives. My oldest sister has been cancer free for 12 years now thanks to Western medicine and "big pharma". Would she be alive today had she chosen alternative treatments instead? Maybe, but we'll never know because that wasn't the route she chose.

I'm quite wary, because of my own healthcare background, of the word "cure" and feel it should be used with extreme caution. I'm even more wary when it's partnered with a phrase like "herbal remedies". That's not to say herbs can't be very beneficial in the treatment of some conditions - I've used herbal supplements myself for some things (some were helpful, some weren't) - but the OP's bold claim set off red flags for me.

The OP states that he has helped (or "cured") friends and family members with diabetes, high blood pressure, and asthma. I know (as do you, I'm sure) from my own research that all of those conditions can benefit - and in many cases, be completely alleviated - with significant dietary and lifestyle changes. Herbal supplements may help as well, but I'm not sure about "curing" those conditions with herbs and nothing else, which is what the OP seemed to be claiming.

Western medicine is certainly flawed, but no one can deny that it has saved millions of lives. Eastern medicine has also helped many people, but what people seem to forget is that it fails to be effective in many cases as well. Neither is perfect nor foolproof. I believe both have their place.

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Claude Whitacre 7 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

Western medicine is certainly flawed, but no one can deny that it has saved millions of lives. .

I think you forgot where you are.
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HeySal

7 years ago

Originally Posted by Cali16

Sal, of course I am fully aware of that. I was being a bit facetious in my post due to the bold claim the OP was making. From many prior discussions we've had here in the OT, you may recall that I'm not a huge fan of prescription drugs for many things.

That being said, I'm not completely against Western medicine and have seen pharmaceuticals save people's lives. My oldest sister has been cancer free for 12 years now thanks to Western medicine and "big pharma". Would she be alive today had she chosen alternative treatments instead? Maybe, but we'll never know because that wasn't the route she chose.

I'm quite wary, because of my own healthcare background, of the word "cure" and feel it should be used with extreme caution. I'm even more wary when it's partnered with a phrase like "herbal remedies". That's not to say herbs can't be very beneficial in the treatment of some conditions - I've used herbal supplements myself for some things (some were helpful, some weren't) - but the OP's bold claim set off red flags for me.

The OP states that he has helped (or "cured") friends and family members with diabetes, high blood pressure, and asthma. I know (as do you, I'm sure) from my own research that all of those conditions can benefit - and in many cases, be completely alleviated - with significant dietary and lifestyle changes. Herbal supplements may help as well, but I'm not sure about "curing" those conditions with herbs and nothing else, which is what the OP seemed to be claiming.

Western medicine is certainly flawed, but no one can deny that it has saved millions of lives. Eastern medicine has also helped many people, but what people seem to forget is that it fails to be effective in many cases as well. Neither is perfect nor foolproof. I believe both have their place.

Yeah - I know your views on the subject -- I didn't realize what your mindset was in your comment to him, though, and thought it best to emphasize to this guy about legalities. So that's about all that was running in my head when I was writing. Knowing how to do something and actually doing it legally (in a lot of fields, not just medicine) are two different animals. I have actually cured things and a lot of people contact me for my views on different illnesses - (which I also answer carefully regarding laws and liability) but definitely couldn't hang a shingle and make a profession of it. Right. LMAO.

Now about ghost-busting.........................

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Banned 7 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Even at the MINIMUM WAGE, you will make more than $33/day! Average day,8 hours, and many jobs really only have you work 7 hours! So the 8 hours is CLOCK HOURS! Anyway, 8 CLOCK HOURS, at minimum wage is $58! GRANTED, you have TAXES taken out, but you can get a lot as a refund. EVEN BEGGARS are supposed to file taxes! GRANTED most get away with NOT filing but if you are caught.....

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Working a regular job will have tax taken out & probably some sort of forced medical insurance thanks to Obama. So you're looking at around 40% loss on tax & insurance ($34.80). Looks like begging pays better than a min. wage job.

The gas money alone for 5 days worth of round trips can make or break a potential job If you live too far away. Example the nearest small town for me is 10 miles one way, the nearest small city is 20+ miles away. That adds up on gas money running back & forth to work.

My point is, breaking even is useless & even negative on the paycheck when you factor in motor oil, tires, etc...

Try raising a family on $174 a week (min. wage - tax, etc...), rent alone would wipe that out. Good luck when you get hungry, need electricity or tap water.

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7 years ago

BTW GET A CAR! If you try, you can probably get a nice one for under $3000. That is only $300 a month, to pay cash in a year! Even at minimum wage you should be able to make over 10302.25/year, or over $858/month. So a car is doable! And insurance should cost you less than $200/month, ESPECIALLY if you only value the vehicle around $3000.

And CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDE! Frankly, I don't see how you could have a wife, especially not a pregnant one. How could it get that far, or are you some young kid.

As for the scammers? NOBODY seems to know what the traditional JOB OFFER means anymore. You have unemployed DONOTHINGS that CLAIM to offer what they never could in their wildest dreams. Here's a hint though. Most such things will NOT be ACTUALLY found in internet ads!

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7 years ago

BTW When I started working, they had an employment department, at least in California. And if you are in school, at least if your family is poor, there may be an employment department THERE! I TRIED to go to the one at my PUBLIC school, but they REFUSED to help because my mother made too much!!!!!

Anyway, the public employment department that anyone 18 or older can go to is like you see on TV sometimes. They have ALL SORTS OF JOBS! With ME, I got everything from a box boy to a PC board inspector. So basically non skilled that anyone could do to mildly skilled. They probably had some relatively highly skilled jobs as well. And there are places on the internet like monster and dice, though they DO generally only want more highly skilled people.

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7 years ago

it is difficult to comment when location is a mystery

so, what else are you not telling?

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by hardraysnight

it is difficult to comment when location is a mystery

so, what else are you not telling?

I agree. No telling us skills, education, size of the city/town, is there a college?

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I agree. No telling us skills, education, size of the city/town, is there a college?

City: Albuquerque
Education: Bachelor's (university studies)
Skills: I can cure people's ailments through herbs/remedies, I play mediocre ukulele, mediocre drawing, mediocre video editing, voice overs, so-so at most aspects of computers/technology, Basic internet research.

Due to disability, I cannot lift over 30 lbs.

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Originally Posted by JohnJames

Due to disability, I cannot lift over 30 lbs.

Shame. Claude was going to donate his evening meal to you.
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7 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnJames

City: Albuquerque
Education: Bachelor's (university studies)
Skills: I can cure people's ailments through herbs/remedies, I play mediocre ukulele, mediocre drawing, mediocre video editing, so-so at most aspects of computers/technology.

Due to disability, I cannot lift over 30 lbs.

Take a couple of programming classes at your local community college. I suggest PHP and a desktop language. In a couple of semesters you'll have some serious skills to make money. Apply for every loan and grant you can. With decent programming skills you can work for someone else, freelance and/or create your own products for sale. I doubt there's many skills that give as much opportunity with as little education.

You could learn programming on your own at home, however going to school lets you ask questions when you get stuck.

In the meantime, apply for a cab driving job. You'll get cash every day and have access to a car. It's a skill that needs to be learned and you probably won't make much until you learn how to make money. Do what you can to get a car. Then you can deliver pizza or work for Uber, which may be better than driving a cab. All of these will give you a schedule that will work around your programming classes.

Do you have access to a drawing tablet and create sketch figures to use in the all the sketch/scribe video makers, like VideoScribe, EasySketch Pro and Explaindio? I know there's a big demand for these. You do need to create vectors in a particular way to have them "draw" correctly, but this shouldn't take more than an hour on Google to learn.

Here's some examples:
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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Take a couple of programming classes at your local community college. I suggest PHP and a desktop language. In a couple of semesters you'll have some serious skills to make money. Apply for every loan and grant you can. With decent programming skills you can work for someone else, freelance and/or create your own products for sale. I doubt there's many skills that give as much opportunity with as little education.

You could learn programming on your own at home, however going to school lets you ask questions when you get stuck.

In the meantime, apply for a cab driving job. You'll get cash every day and have access to a car. It's a skill that needs to be learned and you probably won't make much until you learn how to make money. Do what you can to get a car. Then you can deliver pizza or work for Uber, which may be better than driving a cab. All of these will give you a schedule that will work around your programming classes.

Do you have access to a drawing tablet and create sketch figures to use in the all the sketch/scribe video makers, like VideoScribe, EasySketch Pro and Explaindio? I know there's a big demand for these. You do need to create vectors in a particular way to have them "draw" correctly, but this shouldn't take more than an hour on Google to learn.

Here's some examples:
Doodle Ads Hand Drawn Whiteboard Cartoon Videos

Maybe this will help you. I'm the author of The Doctor Who Cures Cancer. While finding it difficult to get people to share my health articles even when they have multiple rave reviews, I've marveled at how cartoons and light funny stuff can spread like crazy. It is frustrating for me, but can be a tremendous advantage for you.

Your Doodle cartoons have a rare quality: The copy is actually FUNNY! They might be less funny if professionally drawn. I would avoid professionalizing them because as stick figures they have a universal everyman quality. But that is up to you.

Most comic strips these days are not finny at all. None of them. It's hard to recall the last time even one of them made me laugh. Yet several of yours made me laugh out loud! So you have a definite draw for an audience.

Comics can also go viral. I'd start a website called "The Funny Healer" or something like that. Be sure to have either adwords on the site or links to high converting Clickbank products, or maybe both.

Also have information about telephone consultations for health advice where they pay in advance through PayPal.

Put up a new comic each time you have one and let your Facebook, Twitter and Pinterest folks know about it. That's what you promote - your cartoons. One cartoon on Pinterest can last and be seen for years!

Under the comic strip write articles or curate articles about natural health.

Now for the legal protection part. I always write "This is what I'd sdo if it were me." I tell them on the phone the same thing, "Now for the boiler plate. I will always be speaking in terms of what I would do if it were me. If I say 'You' it is the plural you, and not you in particular. Everything is for educational purposes not to diagnose or treat."

Then when you do the appointment, you always stick with the first person. If you screw up, immediately stop and correct it out loud for them to hear so that it is "I" and not the person's name or whatever. Actually say, "When I said Mary, That was incorrect - this is what I would do if it were me," so that it is clear that you are not diagnosing or prescribing.

Stick with it and you're likely to have a growing audience who click on your ads or buy stuff or consult with you.

When you write an article about a particular topic, you might look for a Clickbank product that solves that issue to place next to the article. Between the ad revenue and a few sales you just might have something.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Kelley

Your Doodle cartoons have a rare quality: The copy is actually FUNNY! They might be less funny if professionally drawn. I would avoid professionalizing them because as stick figures they have a universal everyman quality. But that is up to you.

Most comic strips these days are not finny at all. None of them. It's hard to recall the last time even one of them made me laugh. Yet several of yours made me laugh out loud! So you have a definite draw for an audience.

Thank you. That means a lot. Sometimes I get discouraged, but it's mostly because I'd rather just create stuff than deal with the marketing/business side of things. It is definitely my weakness. Scanning this forum has been a great help, and I know I need to keep developing new skills.

Your suggestions are really creative. Once I can figure out how to market, make monetizing websites, etc, I will look into doing something like that, since it combines the things I enjoy doing.

The legal system here is like walking on ice. You're right about the right use of language. I'd have to study and practice that for a while before attempting to move my services into the public realm.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnJames

Thank you. That means a lot. Sometimes I get discouraged, but it's mostly because I'd rather just create stuff than deal with the marketing/business side of things. It is definitely my weakness. Scanning this forum has been a great help, and I know I need to keep developing new skills.

Your suggestions are really creative. Once I can figure out how to market, make monetizing websites, etc, I will look into doing something like that, since it combines the things I enjoy doing.

The legal system here is like walking on ice. You're right about the right use of language. I'd have to study and practice that for a while before attempting to move my services into the public realm.

You have a wife and soon will have a kid. You need to stop being afraid to sell. This is a weakness of my own, but I don't have dependents. Don't be a wimp. Every single day you need to sell yourself directly in some way on Craigsist, Fiverr, the freenlancing sites, etc, every single day.

In addition to the freelance writing and video editing site I recommended, I also recommended creating PowerPoint and video templates using your animation skills. While cartooning on the Web probably isn't profitable, selling cartoon drawings that display a variety of "trigger emotions" is.

Trigger emotions are used in selling to get people to feel. You want images that display emotions like happy, sad, confused, frustrated, angry. You can sell these character packages.

You can also add them to PowerPoint templates to create "infomercial-style" products that make it easy for your customers to modify to suit their needs. You can also create video templates for people that don't have PowerPoint.

To take it a step further, you can make these products for specific local business niches.

Creating cartoons for entertainment probably isn't that profitable. Selling cartoons for selling and marketing can be.

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Banned 7 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

While cartooning on the Web probably isn't profitable, selling cartoon drawings that display a variety of "trigger emotions" is.

Trigger emotions are used in selling to get people to feel. You want images that display emotions like happy, sad, confused, frustrated, angry. You can sell these character packages.

You can also add them to PowerPoint templates to create "infomercial-style" products that make it easy for your customers to modify to suit their needs. You can also create video templates for people that don't have PowerPoint.

To take it a step further, you can make these products for specific local business niches.

Creating cartoons for entertainment probably isn't that profitable. Selling cartoons for selling and marketing can be.

That's quite true. I don't know how profitable a product like that as a WSO would be these days, but in the past, the generic little ghost characters, all white with no faces, in different poses did quite well. They were quite the rage, at least for awhile. I would use stick characters depicting what I wanted to say in a WSO or sales page.

He could also offer that as a service and customize the stick guys to do what the customer wants them to do and say.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

That's quite true. I don't know how profitable a product like that as a WSO would be these days, but in the past, the generic little ghost characters, all white with no faces, in different poses did quite well. They were quite the rage, at least for awhile. I would use stick characters depicting what I wanted to say in a WSO or sales page.

He could also offer that as a service and customize the stick guys to do what the customer wants them to do and say.

I was on Wil Wheaton's tumblr, um, blog(? but he already has a blog) today, hopping over from a friend's FB post. Take a look at what's on the bottom of the page.

Made me immediately think of the OP's comics. As an add-on to an already popular blog, they could quickly gain exposure and inquiries. Kinda the Oprah Book of the Month...the product can be good on its own, but it really becomes GREAT with the right platform & audience.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan

I was on Wil Wheaton's tumblr, um, blog(? but he already has a blog) today, hopping over from a friend's FB post. Take a look at what's on the bottom of the page.

Made me immediately think of the OP's comics. As an add-on to an already popular blog, they could quickly gain exposure and inquiries. Kinda the Oprah Book of the Month...the product can be good on its own, but it really becomes GREAT with the right platform & audience.

Dilbert for marketing blogs, perhaps.

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7 years ago

i am sure a mediocre video of a mediocre drawing of a mediocre ukulele would go viral

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnJames

City: Albuquerque
Education: Bachelor's (university studies)
Skills: I can cure people's ailments through herbs/remedies, I play mediocre ukulele, mediocre drawing, mediocre video editing, so-so at most aspects of computers/technology.

Due to disability, I cannot lift over 30 lbs.

Why dont you be an extra for Better Call Saul ?

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JohnJames

7 years ago

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into some of those for sure.

The thing about where I live is, public transportation is practically non-existent where I live. I'm not in the metro area and I'm in a big desert. I can borrow my aunt's vehicle every once in a while but I really don't want to burden her anymore.

I've also been looking for jobs that would allow me to take the company vehicle home. I haven't gotten any positive responses yet with all the companies I've applied to.

My wife does a bit of online freelance work that helps out, but she needs to take a leave. She's due the end of this month.

Thank you all for your help/concern.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnJames

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll look into some of those for sure.

The thing about where I live is, public transportation is practically non-existent where I live. I'm not in the metro area and I'm in a big desert. I can borrow my aunt's vehicle every once in a while but I really don't want to burden her anymore.

I've also been looking for jobs that would allow me to take the company vehicle home. I haven't gotten any positive responses yet with all the companies I've applied to.

My wife does a bit of online freelance work that helps out, but she needs to take a leave. She's due the end of this month.

Thank you all for your help/concern.

I'm not sure about Albuquerque, but many cab companies in other cities have weekly leases. You lease the cab and take it home at the end of your shift. It's long hours and can be frustrating, but it's something to look into.

Another option is to study PPC and redeem the free/cheap coupons. Bing gives away a $50-100 coupon. And I believe Google gives new accounts $75 if you add $25 of your own. Use the Adwords with Youtube, clicks are cheaper. Also, perfectaudience.com gives $100 free credits to start, but you need traffic before you can retarget it. It's a longshot that you can covert this to profit at first, but you're playing with "house money" to start.

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Kurt

7 years ago

Can you do the doodle sketches?

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Can you do the doodle sketches?

I can. Here are some of my doodles:
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7 years ago

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I can. Here are some of my doodles:
Life Drawn Badly - A Webcomic, but Just Barely.

What video editing software do you have?

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7 years ago

My wife does a bit of online freelance work

I've seen you mention comics and humor on radio or youtube channel...but you don't seem to be making money from it.

Why not work WITH your wife on freelancing online - you have enough education to write web content or ghost write ebooks. You can do it from home with an internet connection. It's very possible to make decent money doing it if you work at it diligently. Sign up for freelance sites (I'm not talking about Fiverr here) - put together some samples of your writing or your graphics - or, preferably, both.

It's not perfect but you have English first language - clearly can spell and put a sentence together - you have the time and internet connection...and it PAYS.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I've seen you mention comics and humor on radio or youtube channel...but you don't seem to be making money from it.

Why not work WITH your wife on freelancing online -

Well she speaks a second language. But I have done a few things on sites like Elance. It's just very inconsistent, or maybe I can't market myself right.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

What video editing software do you have?

Sony Vegas.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by JohnJames

Sony Vegas.

I don't have any first hand info about this site...It matches people that need video editing with video editors. It won't hurt to check it out.

VidMob | Hire professional and affordable video editors all directly from your phone.

Also, do the freelance stuff as Kay suggested.

Come up with a few graphics/video gigs you can do on Fiverr.

Create an account at Textbroker.com.

Learn PowerPoint and learn to make templates and videos using your sketches. Powerpoint has a free 30 day trial then is only $6.95 a month. You can then sell the videos and PPT templates.

None of these will give you a lot of money. However, if you combine all of them you make be able to make some money and it's low risk and doesn't cost anything to start.

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7 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

None of these will give you a lot of money. However, if you combine all of them you make be able to make some money and it's low risk and doesn't cost anything to start.

Much thanks. I'll look into those.

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I can. Here are some of my doodles:
Life Drawn Badly - A Webcomic, but Just Barely.

That's actually funny.
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7 years ago

Can you clean hotel rooms? It's physical, but the heaviest thing is the vacuum and making beds - but usually you're just tucking sheets in.

An independently owned hotel - even if it's a franchise - might pay cash. I've paid cash daily from time to time.

Actually, I've paid cash daily for some general clean up. - Again usually light duty.

Clean up and painting, washing cars/headlights, are always things that hotels, small businesses and homeowners are looking for. Better for the pride than panhandling, I'd think.

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Can you clean hotel rooms?

Dan

I did apply to a few of those jobs, actually. They wouldn't take me without a vehicle, even though I said I could borrow one for a while. :/
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7 years ago

I suggest taking the time to write a resume
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Start applying everywhere using your resume, indeed.com and local newspapers.

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Banned 7 years ago

I think you have a talent for web comics, however, I've heard over and over from the vast majority of web comics that there's little to no money in it. Very hard to monetize something that people just want to read and laugh. Kind of like monetizing the millions of recipes on the Net. They're all over and nobody pays for them.

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7 years ago

I enjoyed the cartoons and think you have skills for the marketing world.

Kurt knows his stuff in this regard.

Only thing I can think of, if not covered already, is to contact marketing agencies directly
and see about telecommuting or freelancing. Might have to borrow the Aunt's car to go to
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7 years ago

Originally Posted by bizgrower

I enjoyed the cartoons and think you have skills for the marketing world.

Kurt knows his stuff in this regard.

Only thing I can think of, if not covered already, is to contact marketing agencies directly
and see about telecommuting or freelancing. Might have to borrow the Aunt's car to go to
meetings.

Thanks.

Signing up for freelancing sites like fiverr and upwork.