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Moon Settlement Plans Gather Pace

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The mission, called Luna 27, is set for launch in 5 years time

Europe and Russia mission to assess Moon settlement


Lead European scientist for the mission, Dr James Carpenter of the European Space Agency, explains why the south pole of the Moon may be rich in resources for a human colony . . .

Is life possible on the south pole of the Moon?
  • Profile picture of the author AdscendTony
    Could I still work from home on the moon?
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by positivenegative View Post

    Dr James Carpenter of the European Space Agency, explains why the south pole of the Moon may be rich in resources for a human colony . . .

    Is life possible on the south pole of the Moon?
    I'm all for as many people as possible to populate the moon. There'll be more room and resources and less pollution left here for us.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I don't understand how someone could "colonize" a satellite when there's no indigenous means of life support. You can't have a whole population depending on water from elsewhere, artificial atmosphere, etc. The first thing that goes wrong, and you've got a dead population. So why bother?
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    • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
      Mebbe they could pipe the water over, same as they do for deserts and stuff.

      Pipes would have to be elastic to allow for the Moon's orbit, an' if you made 'em elastic enough, you could pull the moon in close enough to the Earth to make the switch to regular pipes.

      It's gonna happen.
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    • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I don't understand how someone could "colonize" a satellite when there's no indigenous means of life support. You can't have a whole population depending on water from elsewhere, artificial atmosphere, etc. The first thing that goes wrong, and you've got a dead population. So why bother?
      Excellent point. If they're going to spend that much money on building an atmosphere, why not spend it on fixing up the one we've got on Earth.
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    They'd better be careful what they do on the moon someone or something might not like them being there.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by np2014 View Post

      They'd better be careful what they do on the moon someone or something might not like them being there.
      Are you suggesting that there are Aliens already up there? Lined up on the ridge watching the astronauts. Come on, spit it out.

      Nightclubs would fail miserably on the Moon, no atmosphere.
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        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        Are you suggesting that there are Aliens already up there? Lined up on the ridge watching the astronauts. Come on, spit it out.

        Nightclubs would fail miserably on the Moon, no atmosphere.
        Not suggesting - they've been filmed.

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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by BIG Mike View Post

      Where do I sign up my mother and father-in-law?
      Now there is someone who really hates the moon
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by AdscendTony View Post

      Could I still work from home on the moon?
      Of course, it's called "moonlighting."

      Speaking of celestial bodies, anyone know why the thread Claude started about multiple Earths might have been deleted? Last time I read it, it was pretty benign.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        Of course, it's called "moonlighting."

        Speaking of celestial bodies, anyone know why the thread Claude started about multiple Earths might have been deleted? Last time I read it, it was pretty benign.
        I asked for it to be deleted. After I read the replies, I reread my post. The idea I was trying to convey wasn't clear enough. I tried editing it several times, and it wasn't going to work.
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        • Profile picture of the author Star Man
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          I asked for it to be deleted. After I read the replies, I reread my post. The idea I was trying to convey wasn't clear enough.
          So you let people write replies and then delete the whole thing?

          Naughty boy!

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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by Star Man View Post

            So you let people write replies and then delete the whole thing?

            Naughty boy!

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            No. I read the replies, and then realized my point was not clear. So I tried to make it clearer, and gave up.

            Apparently, I did that twice.

            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            I asked for it to be deleted. After I read the replies, I reread my post. The idea I was trying to convey wasn't clear enough. I tried editing it several times, and it wasn't going to work.
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            • Profile picture of the author Star Man
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              No. I read the replies, and then realized my point was not clear. So I tried to make it clearer, and gave up.
              You made the point so clear that a baby would have understood. What exactly wasn't clear?
              Any chance the edited version will appear any time soon?
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              • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                Originally Posted by Star Man View Post

                You made the point so clear that a baby would have understood. What exactly wasn't clear?
                Any chance the edited version will appear any time soon?
                Probably not. I don't have an edited version. I could tell by the responses, that my meaning wasn't coming through. If it was clear to you, then I'm happy. I tried to cover it from every angle...hence the length of the post.

                I don't know if this will make sense, but when writing my post, I had to keep about four ideas in my mind at the same time. I wrote quickly and it was written as I thought it.

                It's actually a highly complex idea, and very hard to explain in a way that most people will get.

                That doesn't mean I'm right, just that the concept isn't easy to explain. And based on the serious replies, I could see that I failed to get the idea across. So rather than let people continue to reply to a flawed idea, I just had it deleted.


                Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                Threads often don't go the way we'd like. It was still an interesting thread. The first one that prompted me to post in weeks.
                Thank you, Dennis. It isn't that the thread didn't go the way I wanted. It's that my original post didn't get the idea across well enough.
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          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          I asked for it to be deleted. After I read the replies, I reread my post. The idea I was trying to convey wasn't clear enough. I tried editing it several times, and it wasn't going to work.
          It was my spare parts post, wasn't
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        • Profile picture of the author positivenegative
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          I asked for it to be deleted.
          Spoilsport! You knew we were on to you.


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        • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          I asked for it to be deleted.
          Threads often don't go the way we'd like. It was still an interesting thread. The first one that prompted me to post in weeks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    So Claude accidently starts a thread that's interesting for a change, then deletes it. That's so claude-like.


    On another note, I don't participate much in some of the physics related threads, not because I don't like science, but I find it too difficult and too time consuming to type out responses that require really deep thought. For me, subjects like this are much better in person than on forums.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      So Claude accidently starts a thread that's interesting for a change, then deletes it. That's so claude-like.


      On another note, I don't participate much in some of the physics related threads, not because I don't like science, but I find it too difficult and too time consuming to type out responses that require really deep thought. For me, subjects like this are much better in person than on forums.
      That could be a real problem for you, because nobody likes you in person.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        That could be a real problem for you, because nobody likes you in person.
        How do you know? What exactly does "in person mean" anyway? Are you insinuating that he's different face to face, in person, in the flesh, than here in the forum?

        I'm the same both on and offline. What you see is what you get.


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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          How do you know? What exactly does "in person mean" anyway? Are you insinuating that he's different face to face, in person, in the flesh, than here in the forum?

          I'm the same both on and offline. What you see is what you get.


          Terra
          Terra;

          One on one, you aren't side tracked by a dozen side arguments. You can communicate faster one on one, as well. It's not that anyone is a different person on the forum, it's that complex ideas are better exchanged with two people, rather than a group of diverse experiences.

          There are several people here that I would love to exchange ideas with, one on one. But a dozen voices really muddies the water, and misunderstandings take over.

          I agree with Kurt, a deep discussion is far more enjoyable one on one.

          i said, "In person" because I was insulting Kurt. And that was really the only reason I made that post.

          I miss Dan Riffle. I don't know if he's coming back. But Kurt is the absolute master at the Claude Insult.
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Terra;

            One on one, you aren't side tracked by a dozen side arguments. You can communicate faster one on one, as well. It's not that anyone is a different person on the forum, it's that complex ideas are better exchanged with two people, rather than a group of diverse experiences.

            There are several people here that I would love to exchange ideas with, one on one. But a dozen voices really muddies the water, and misunderstandings take over.

            I agree with Kurt, a deep discussion is far more enjoyable one on one.
            I agree as much as a person can agree with you and Kurt. But you evaded answering my question, silly boy.

            You said nobody likes Kurt in person. And I asked how do you know? If we like him just fine here, then why wouldn't we over there in Colorado, in person?


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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

              But you evaded answering my question, silly boy.

              You said nobody likes Kurt in person. And I asked how do you know? If we like him just fine here, then why wouldn't we over there in Colorado, in person?

              Terra
              Terra, my love......

              I didn't evade your question, I read your post too fast, and missed it.

              The flaw in your thinking is that you think people like Kurt just fine here. What you don't know is that Kurt has received about 200 death threats from Forum Members in the last year alone.


              The fact that they all came from me, is beside the point.
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              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Terra, my love......

                I didn't evade your question, I read your post too fast, and missed it.

                The flaw in your thinking is that you think people like Kurt just fine here. What you don't know is that Kurt has received about 200 death threats from Forum Members in the last year alone.


                The fact that they all came from me, is beside the point.

                Hahaha!

                You made me giggle!


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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            I agree with Kurt, a deep discussion is far more enjoyable one on one.

            i said, "In person" because I was insulting Kurt. And that was really the only reason I made that post.

            I miss Dan Riffle. I don't know if he's coming back. But Kurt is the absolute master at the Claude Insult.
            Whoa!

            You edited your post and answered my question while I was typing it!

            And you don't believe in psychics! Hahahahaha!


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