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enjamulahsan

Banned 8 years ago

No I didn't.

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sbucciarel Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by enjamulahsan

No I didn't.

Anyone want to buy an 800 word article from a guy who can't write an intelligent one sentence post?

He's filled up the Off Topic forum with irrelevant and completely stupid one liners to promote his signature.
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tagiscom

8 years ago

Originally Posted by enjamulahsan

No's, I don't.

There that is better!

I was a bit disappointed thought, l thought that this had something to do with the stupid hysteria around the US one, set to go over a billion if no one gets it soon!

After all if it goes over the billion mark, your chances increase?

Groan!

Someone just resurrect the old Lotto thread, l couldn't be bothered writing it all up again!

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DURABLEOILCOM

8 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

There that is better!

I was a bit disappointed thought, l thought that this had something to do with the stupid hysteria around the US one, set to go over a billion if no one gets it soon!

After all if it goes over the billion mark, your chances increase?

Groan!

Someone just resurrect the old Lotto thread, l couldn't be bothered writing it all up again!

Jack Pot is now 1.3 Billion one has to wonder if is all just a big scam. I have never seen people buying Lottery tickets like this past week.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertwood/2016/01/11/winner-of-1-3-billion-powerball-may-face-suits-by-friends-co-workers-family/

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tagiscom

8 years ago

Originally Posted by DURABLEOILCOM

Jack Pot is now 1.3 Billion one has to wonder if is all just a big scam. I have never seen people buying Lottery tickets like this past week.

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I don't think that it is a scam, from past winners, but from what l read today they would get a paltry 600,000,000 if they wanted it up front, (well, roughly).

We get this sort of crap in AU, but not at this scale, (l think that our biggest jackpot was an odd 100,000,000, and l saw pretty long ques, buying tickets!

I still scratched my head thought, thinking sure you will win $40 instead of $20 if a minor win comes up, but unless you are pouring serious money into a system it is pretty dumb!

Well, pouring money into a system that relays on minimal winners sharing the jackpot, and of course winning it, is still dumb.

For a billion, l suspect that US residents will be modifying home printers and throwing millions into covering all combinations, well the rich ones, might?

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alistair

8 years ago

I don't usually do the lottery but the weekend just gone the jackpot here was £66,000,000 so I bought one lucky dip as I was in the shop getting some stuff anyway.

Just checked my numbers and didn't get a single one. And I just realised looking at the ticket that at some point in the past the price for a lucky dip or a line has doubled from £1 to £2. If I had realised I don't think I would have bothered. One thing I cannot stand (being a bit of a tight arse) is seeing my money go up in smoke. Anyway next time I get tempted I'll just put that £2 towards my next pack of cigarettes.

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lanfear63

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

It's not a scam or a blessing.

A third of the money paid in (or thereabouts), is kept for the projects it funds, and expenses...and about two thirds is paid back out.

So, is it intelligent to play the lottery? My answer would have to be "No".

Is it a scam? No, because it actually pays out what is promised.

A third here is taken off for tax though, (Unlike Europe, tax free) I think the minimum amount you can win without tax is a megre 512 dollars.

Back in the UK I wheeled a 5 number plus bonus game called the Thunderball, Picked 14 of the 37 numbers and played them in 18 combinations (games). You would win something for one number plus bonus, two numbers, getting 3, 4 or 5. I was always ahead on that one although you would get weeks with nothing to show you would get other ones with multiple small wins. Never got the big one though, (500,000 pounds)

Ironically my sister bought my mother a single line quick pick and she won 5000 pounds for getting five numbers.

I like it here when someone wins 100k on a game show. I wonder if they know a third comes off for tax.

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RealNinja

8 years ago

I haven't.. but years back, a friend's dad won it for $12 million (i think).. He was one of the RARE people who actually managed to keep the money (and not go bankrupt) lol

He ended up being frugal with the money, invested a lot of it into real estate, and is now very successful..

And what's even more bizarre is that he ended up winning the lotto again and made a few more million from that..

I wonder what the chances are of winning the lotto twice? lol it has to be some crazy low number..

He was featured on a tv show about lottery winners. I think like 99% (or some low number) all end up bankrupt in a few years and destroy their lives..

There is only very a small handful of winners that had happy endings, and he was one of them.

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DURABLEOILCOM

8 years ago

Originally Posted by RealNinja

I haven't.. but years back, a friend's dad won it for $12 million (i think).. He was one of the RARE people who actually managed to keep the money (and not go bankrupt) lol

He ended up being frugal with the money, invested a lot of it into real estate, and is now very successful..

And what's even more bizarre is that he ended up winning the lotto again and made a few more million from that..

I wonder what the chances are of winning the lotto twice? lol it has to be some crazy low number..

He was featured on a tv show about lottery winners. I think like 99% (or some low number) all end up bankrupt in a few years and destroy their lives..

There is only very a small handful of winners that had happy endings, and he was one of them.

It is hard for the common person to be able to hold on to such a large amount of money. I think the best options would be to clear your debt and invest in real estate as well as other safe businesses. Thank you for sharing your story. Would you happen to know if he hand picked the numbers or if it was a quick pick?

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Jill Carpenter

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

It makes absolutely no difference. There is no pattern to it. The numbers are random.

Oh my dearest suction man, I have to disagree with you.

Yes - anything can happen - but those who have won more than one lottery often do use a method.

If you go back through lotto results and actually study them over weeks and weeks, there will be certain numbers that are often caught in some cycles.

And there is a weird science behind it.

Or so my warped mind is led to believe.

Did I use this method in the purchase of my last tickets? Well no. I was in a rush and just got my quick picks.

Please do call me if they mention Florida as one of the winners tomorrow.

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Marvin Adam

8 years ago

The chances of winning the here mentioned jackpot prize of 1.3 billion is 1 in 292,201,338. In fact I know people who won some smaller numbers (7000€) playing lottery-games, on the other hand there's people such as my grandmother who couldn't win a dime in 50+ years.

Therefore the question is, why investing any money into a random system like this if one instead could just invest the money into a sustainable business. Maybe the chances are not 1 in 292,201,338 there.

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driven2fly 8 years ago

Well lottery is lottery but I think they need to change the rules, specially when the jackpot grows past 100 Million or so. They should have more than just one or two winners.
I once read in the Newspaper that Spain had over 2 Billion jack pot a couple of years ago and there were a couple of thousand winners.
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tagiscom

8 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

What's to say. It's either that or have my personal inbox stuffed with spam. I'm not a rookie.
I make the rounds in an effort to not have anyone feel left out. I'm big that way.
C'mon. Lately I've been nothing if not a pussycat.

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Pussycat, maybe this one?

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Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter

Oh my dearest suction man, I have to disagree with you.

Yes - anything can happen - but those who have won more than one lottery often do use a method.

If you go back through lotto results and actually study them over weeks and weeks, there will be certain numbers that are often caught in some cycles.

And there is a weird science behind it.

Or so my warped mind is led to believe.

Did I use this method in the purchase of my last tickets? Well no. I was in a rush and just got my quick picks.

Please do call me if they mention Florida as one of the winners tomorrow.

Groan, l can hear Claude cracking his knuckles already!

But you are right, l have researched all of this, and eventhough as others are going to ram,...say, it is totally random, but just like you can get 4 white cars at traffic lights, groups do occur.

Can you capitalize on this with Lotto, not really.

The best system in the world, (mechanical) would take about 30 years to have a chance of Div, 1, and if to many supps come up, another 30! Well, up to!

Originally Posted by Marvin Adam

The chances of winning the here mentioned jackpot prize of 1.3 billion is 1 in 292,201,338. In fact I know people who won some smaller numbers (7000€) playing lottery-games, on the other hand there's people such as my grandmother who couldn't win a dime in 50+ years.

Therefore the question is, why investing any money into a random system like this if one instead could just invest the money into a sustainable business. Maybe the chances are not 1 in 292,201,338 there.

Because they are idiots!

There Frank, you can add that to the intelligent remark short list!

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sconer

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Marvin Adam

Therefore the question is, why investing any money into a random system like this if one instead could just invest the money into a sustainable business. Maybe the chances are not 1 in 292,201,338 there.

Because it's not an investment. It's entertainment. It's the same as paying to see a movie, or going to a restaurant and eating a meal that you enjoy instead of just eating cheap basic food for sustenance.

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sconer

Because it's not an investment. It's entertainment.

One man's investment is another man's entertainment. Not everyone see the world through your eyes.

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sconer

8 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

One man's investment is another man's entertainment. Not everyone see the world through your eyes.

Cheers. - Frank

Ok, so then we agree. So why are you opposing what I said to the man who is questioning why someone would "invest" in the lottery (when I clearly explained the reasoning was because they weren't investing)?

Are you just going to challenge everything I say even if your challenge shows you agree? That's no way to get my $10.

I see that your long diatribe to the other guy got deleted, I guess the mods are on to you?

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sconer

Ok, so then we agree. So why are you opposing what I said to the man who is questioning why someone would "invest" in the lottery (when I clearly explained the reasoning was because they weren't investing)?

Are you just going to challenge everything I say even if your challenge shows you agree? That's no way to get my $10.

You'll pardon my flailing about. I'm simply trying everything at my disposal to get your money in my account. I'm pretty good at wearing people down. :-)

I see that your long diatribe to the other guy got deleted, I guess the mods are on to you?

My post are never deleted and usually, enshrined. I simply moved it to the correct thread.

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I put that info in the deleted post, so it should have appeared.

Cheers. - Frank

P.S. That was not a diatribe. More like a manifesto. lol

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Marvin Adam

8 years ago

Originally Posted by sconer

Because it's not an investment. It's entertainment. It's the same as paying to see a movie, or going to a restaurant and eating a meal that you enjoy instead of just eating cheap basic food for sustenance.

You are right, unfortunately though, many folks misjudge it for an investement.

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sconer 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Marvin Adam

You are right, unfortunately though, many folks misjudge it for an investement.

Agreed.

And many people who shouldn't be going out to the movies or eating at restaurants because they don't make enough and are already on social programs also spend money on the lottery when they clearly shouldn't be.
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  Yes. Buying a ticket for excitement and fantasies is one thing. Actually believing there was a chance higher than "In about 292 million other dimensions, I also wasted 3 bucks." is the problem. It's ironic how casinos are somehow seen as too risky and have that underground-vibe, when lotteries are the same, just offering less overall chances of making any money back at all.
  
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lanfear63

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter

Oh my dearest suction man, I have to disagree with you.

Yes - anything can happen - but those who have won more than one lottery often do use a method.

If you go back through lotto results and actually study them over weeks and weeks, there will be certain numbers that are often caught in some cycles.

And there is a weird science behind it.

Or so my warped mind is led to believe.

Did I use this method in the purchase of my last tickets? Well no. I was in a rush and just got my quick picks.

Please do call me if they mention Florida as one of the winners tomorrow.

"Oh my dearest suction man"

You have obviously seen his prices.

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butters

8 years ago

Bought my powerball ticket in the UK, I got this and I'll let you know

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

The lotto is nothing more than a stealth tax, paid primarily by those that can least afford it.

If I wanted to piss my money away I would pulverize it in my NutriBullet with some coconut milk, drink it and then actually piss it away. I don't need me no middleman.

Cheers. - Frank

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sconer

8 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

The lotto is nothing more than a stealth tax, paid primarily by those that can least afford it.

If I wanted to piss my money away I would pulverize it in my NutriBullet with some coconut milk, drink it and then actually piss it away. I don't need me no middleman.

Cheers. - Frank

I don't know if I would consider it a tax or not. But if it is, it's the best kind because it's voluntary

I don't play the lottery except for Christmas and my birthday when I get scratch-offs as a gift (I never win anything) and when the jackpot is big like it is now.

I will play $10 just like I did the other day. I don't do it because I think I am going to win, I do it for the entertainment and dreaming about what I would do if I did win. It's more fulfilling than most movies nowadays, and going to the movies costs a hell of a lot more than $10.

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sconer

I don't know if I would consider it a tax or not. But if it is, it's the best kind because it's voluntary

Well, if you smoke, so are cigarette taxes. You choose to smoke. The list of examples is extensive.

I don't play the lottery except for Christmas and my birthday when I get scratch-offs as a gift (I never win anything) and when the jackpot is big like it is now.

I will play $10 just like I did the other day. I don't do it because I think I am going to win, I do it for the entertainment and dreaming about what I would do if I did win. It's more fulfilling than most movies nowadays, and going to the movies costs a hell of a lot more than $10.

Send me the $10 and I'll send you a paragraph beautifully explaining all of the things you can do with your non-existent winnings.

This is what is meant by a win-win - except for the fact that you lose, but who's counting? Me - your $10. :-)

Cheers. - Frank

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sconer

8 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Well, if you smoke, so are cigarette taxes. You choose to smoke. The list of examples is extensive.

Smoking is taxed. But smoking is not a tax.

You called the entire lotto a tax. I would not agree.

Send me the $10 and I'll send you a paragraph beautifully explaining all of the things you can do with your non-existent winnings.

I wouldn't be entertained by you nearly as much.

This is what is meant by a win-win - except for the fact that you lose, but who's counting? Me - your $10. :-)

Cheers. - Frank

I didn't lose anything. $10 is something that I will simply never notice.

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sconer

Smoking is taxed. But smoking is not a tax.

Semantics.

You called the entire lotto a tax. I would not agree.

Difference of opinion.

I wouldn't be entertained by you nearly as much.

That does not concern me.

I didn't lose anything. $10 is something that I will simply never notice.

Please PayPal privateuser@bluebottle.com. You may not notice its gone, but I'll notice it's arrival. :-)

Cheers. - Frank

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sconer

8 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Semantics.
Difference of opinion.
That does not concern me.
Please PayPal privateuser@bluebottle.com. You may not notice its gone, but I'll notice it's arrival. :-)

Cheers. - Frank

It's not semantics. The lotto may be taxed. But I do not consider it a tax.

You, as well as many others, call the lotto "a tax". Often times I will see someone say "It is a tax on the mathematically challenged" or "It is a tax on the stupid" or "It is a tax on the poor", etc. But I disagree because I don't feel it's a tax at all.

You keep telling me to give you money in a pathetic attempt to make a point, but it is not working. I choose to spend my money the way I see fit. At this point in my life I can easily spend $10 on something that I find entertaining and not have it make any difference to my finances. If you truly need $10 that badly then give me your real Paypal and I will send it to you.

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sconer

You keep telling me to give you money in a pathetic attempt to make a point, but it is not working. I choose to spend my money the way I see fit. At this point in my life I can easily spend $10 on something that I find entertaining and not have it make any difference to my finances. If you truly need $10 that badly then give me your real Paypal and I will send it to you.

Are you saying that you don't find me entertaining? Even at such a paltry price?

While I actually do need $10 that badly, and $100 would help me and the urchins much more, knowing that I have not at least mildly entertained you precludes me from accepting your money.

We'll survive - a bit longer.

Cheers. - Frank

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hardraysnight

8 years ago

i invested my $21.60 australian in us powerball - international finance

have to be in it to win it

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sconer

8 years ago

I went all out this time, I chose the Powerplay and it cost me $15 total. I figure the Powerplay is a smart option since it increases the payoff for the smaller prizes that I actually have won before.

Sorry BigFrank.

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sconer

Sorry BigFrank.

Not as sorry as the children will be. :-(

Cheers. - Frank

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sconer

8 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Not as sorry as the children will be. :-(

Cheers. - Frank

I do feel bad... But winning the lottery is the only way I will ever have a chance with Princess Balestra's avatar.

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sconer

I do feel bad... But winning the lottery is the only way I will ever have a chance with Princess Balestra's avatar.

There are other ways. How much are you willing to pay? I'm determined to get your money into my PayPal account, by hook or by crook.

Cheers. - Frank

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tagiscom

8 years ago

Originally Posted by BigFrank

Semantics.
Difference of opinion.
That does not concern me.
Please PayPal privateuser@bluebottle.com. You may not notice its gone, but I'll notice it's arrival. :-)

Cheers. - Frank

Bluebottle,...I ain't saying anything!

Originally Posted by sconer

It's not semantics. The lotto may be taxed. But I do not consider it a tax.

You, as well as many others, call the lotto "a tax". Often times I will see someone say "It is a tax on the mathematically challenged" or "It is a tax on the stupid" or "It is a tax on the poor", etc. But I disagree because I don't feel it's a tax at all.

You keep telling me to give you money in a pathetic attempt to make a point, but it is not working. I choose to spend my money the way I see fit. At this point in my life I can easily spend $10 on something that I find entertaining and not have it make any difference to my finances. If you truly need $10 that badly then give me your real Paypal and I will send it to you.

I am glad Frank that you have found someone new, to sink your te......ahem, have philosophical discussions with.

And remember that the mods don't like bloodbaths!

Originally Posted by hardraysnight

i invested my $21.60 australian in us powerball - international finance

have to be in it to win it

Yes, have to be in it for 30 to 50 years to possibly win it!

Originally Posted by sconer

I do feel bad... But winning the lottery is the only way I will ever have a chance with Princess Balestra's avatar.

Gee, Sconer you are living dangerously! Just don't mention jam donuts and you should be fine? Well, that and teddy bears!

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BigFrank

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Bluebottle,...I ain't saying anything!

What's to say. It's either that or have my personal inbox stuffed with spam. I'm not a rookie.

I am glad Frank that you have found someone new, to sink your te......ahem, have philosophical discussions with.

I make the rounds in an effort to not have anyone feel left out. I'm big that way.

And remember that the mods don't like bloodbaths!

C'mon. Lately I've been nothing if not a pussycat.

Cheers. - Frank

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Jill Carpenter

8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Anyone want to buy an 800 word article from a guy who can't write an intelligent one sentence post?

He's filled up the Off Topic forum with irrelevant and completely stupid one liners to promote his signature.

I am guilty of the first part of what you say. As for sig promotion, it does me no flipping good down here what ever is there, lol, so I don't bother with that.

But to answer your question, I can easily ramble out 800 words on absolutely nothing so not worth paying for.

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sconer

8 years ago

I was so happy to see that BigFrank replied to this thread, but let down when reading the actual reply :-(

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Originally Posted by sconer

I was so happy to see that BigFrank replied to this thread, but let down when reading the actual reply :-(

One man's disappointment is another man's sense of elation.

Deal with it. lol

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