Brett Farve is now Back...again

17 years ago

Back where?
I agree, retire already.

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TeddyP 17 years ago

Pending a physical he will be signing a two year deal with Minnesota. I thought it was just like a week ago he said he wouldn't be going there.

He gets 11-12 million this year - overpaid IMO
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Kurt

17 years ago

I'm also sick of Farve. The guy has turned into the biggest diva in the NFL.

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R Hagel 17 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I'm also sick of Farve. The guy has turned into the biggest diva in the NFL.

LOL! He sounds like a drama queen. All you have to do is change some of the details and he sounds more like a teenage girl than an adult man.

Instead of, "can't decide whether to retire" just replace it with, "can't decide what to wear to the big dance tonight" or "can't decide if I should keep seeing Jimmy."
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- Kay King 17 years ago
  
  At first I thought he just loved the game and so decided not to retire (a few times) - now I think he misses the attention. If he thinks he can still play, that's his decision but the constant announcements about his latest intentions are ridiculous.
  
  Even here - his home stomping grounds - it's become a bit of a joke.
  
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garyv

17 years ago

I like Bret Favre - He's still great. Anyone that can take losers like the jets to where they were last year is still a pretty good quarter-back. By the way he tied Joe Namath's franchise touchdown record in a game against the SuperBowl bound Arizona Cardinals last year. So to say he hasn't been great in years is simply not true.

However, he appears to have no loyalty. I don't see how he can build any kind of fan base. Not to mention the fact that he's shooting down his hard-core fans from Green-Bay. Fans that would have paid him royalties for years in Bret Favre merchandise. Personally I think that Green-bay made a huge mistake by not letting him come back. They're also losing out on royalties.

This is very smart though for Minnesota. The Green-bay - Minnesota rivalry has always been big, but now this is going to pack the house on those games.

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ThomM

17 years ago

Originally Posted by garyv

I like Bret Favre - He's still great. Anyone that can take losers like the jets to where they were last year is still a pretty good quarter-back. By the way he tied Joe Namath's franchise touchdown record in a game against the SuperBowl bound Arizona Cardinals last year. So to say he hasn't been great in years is simply not true.

However, he appears to have no loyalty. I don't see how he can build any kind of fan base. Not to mention the fact that he's shooting down his hard-core fans from Green-Bay. Fans that would have paid him royalties for years in Bret Favre merchandise. Personally I think that Green-bay made a huge mistake by not letting him come back. They're also losing out on royalties.

This is very smart though for Minnesota. The Green-bay - Minnesota rivalry has always been big, but now this is going to pack the house on those games.

In the last 5 games of the season (they lost 4 of them) Favre through 8 interceptions and only 2 touchdowns.
He starts the season strong now, but is getting to old to keep up the pace.

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TLTheLiberator

17 years ago

Brent's still better than more than half the starting QBs out there now.

His goal all along was to miss the grueling days of training camp.

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Daniel Schulz

17 years ago

Frankly, to be honest (as a football fan and all around kind human being, not a Bears fan), I hope he fails the physical. I've heard his throwing arm isn't in great shape, and if he gets injured, he could be done for to the point that no team would let him play pro ball even if he paid them to let him.

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TeddyP

17 years ago

His first three games last season were horrible too. He starts slow not knowing the system - then plays good - great and then crashes and burns.

To me he is not a great QB anymore and outside of 07 hasn't been in quite awhile IMO. A bad 08 - his collapse the last 5 games cost the Jets a playoff spot. His 05 and 06 years were HORRIBLE.

Is he better than more than half the current Qbs...hmmm probably..but just - off the top of my head I would personally rank these guys ahead of him as of today:

Brady
Manning
Brees
Rivers
Warner
Cutler
Rodgers
Romo
Ryan
Manning 2
McNabb
Big Ben

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TLTheLiberator

17 years ago

Originally Posted by TeddyP

His first three games last season were horrible too. He starts slow not knowing the system - then plays good - great and then crashes and burns.

To me he is not a great QB anymore and outside of 07 hasn't been in quite awhile IMO. A bad 08 - his collapse the last 5 games cost the Jets a playoff spot. His 05 and 06 years were HORRIBLE.

Is he better than more than half the current Qbs...hmmm probably..but just - off the top of my head I would personally rank these guys ahead of him as of today:

Brady
Manning
Brees
Rivers
Warner
Cutler
Rodgers
Romo
Ryan
Manning 2
McNabb
Big Ben

You can scratch...

Brees

Rodgers

Cutler

and Ryan off my list.

But I love the way Ryan seems to be able to throw with accuracy and authority while backpedaling.

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TeddyP

17 years ago

Gary there were 7 QB's with more attempts than Favre last year and none of them eclipsed the 20 INT mark..Favre had 22 to lead the league.

TLH - Cutler, Ryan and Rodgers are debatable even though last season they were definitely better than Favre.

But Brees??? He is EASILY better than Favre and it isn't close anymore. Brees is part of the holy trinity of current NFL QB's: Manning, Brady and Brees.

He eclipsed 5000yds passing last season. Had 34 TD's. All without a 100yd receiver and two of his major targets (Bush/Shockey) out for most of the season.

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Kurt

17 years ago

Originally Posted by TeddyP

Gary there were 7 QB's with more attempts than Favre last year and none of them eclipsed the 20 INT mark..Favre had 22 to lead the league.

TLH - Cutler, Ryan and Rodgers are debatable even though last season they were definitely better than Favre.

But Brees??? He is EASILY better than Favre and it isn't close anymore. Brees is part of the holy trinity of current NFL QB's: Manning, Brady and Brees.

He eclipsed 5000yds passing last season. Had 34 TD's. All without a 100yd receiver and two of his major targets (Bush/Shockey) out for most of the season.

I agree with all the points...Especially Brees. Brees may be the best free agent pick up of all time.

The only other free agent pickup that comes close that I can think of would be Reggie White.

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TLTheLiberator

17 years ago

Originally Posted by TeddyP

Gary there were 7 QB's with more attempts than Favre last year and none of them eclipsed the 20 INT mark..Favre had 22 to lead the league.

TLH - Cutler, Ryan and Rodgers are debatable even though last season they were definitely better than Favre.

But Brees??? He is EASILY better than Favre and it isn't close anymore. Brees is part of the holy trinity of current NFL QB's: Manning, Brady and Brees.

He eclipsed 5000yds passing last season. Had 34 TD's. All without a 100yd receiver and two of his major targets (Bush/Shockey) out for most of the season.

I stand corrected on Brees.

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garyv

17 years ago

Bret just needs the right hook ups - he throws more interceptions than anyone, but that's because he makes way more pass attempts than anyone else. If they hook him up w/ receivers like he had during his super-bowl years then he wouldn't have to wear himself out and he'd probably be right back on top again. Plus he energizes every team that he goes to. The Jets were practically zombies before he got there.

I mean he is getting old, but I for one would love to see him get with the right players again. I think he's just looking for a John Elway type of departure, and I'd be willing to bet that if he gets the right players he'll be able to do it. I'm rooting for the old man!

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Jeff Casmer

17 years ago

Hi,

I think its going to work as he is going to a good team with a great running back which will make his job (even at 40) easier....

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TLTheLiberator

17 years ago

Originally Posted by HopeBanks

Cannot wait for the pack to play the vikings!

It will be on a Monday Night!!

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TeddyP

17 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

It will be on a Monday Night!!

TL

That will be awesome.

And TLT if Favre has a great season I will be the first to admit I was wrong...I think since I dislike him I let those feelings get in the way of admitting how great he has been.

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TLTheLiberator

17 years ago

Originally Posted by TeddyP

That will be awesome.

And TLT if Favre has a great season I will be the first to admit I was wrong...I think since I dislike him I let those feelings get in the way of admitting how great he has been.

He's worth at least 2 or 3 extra wins for the Vikes.

They will be in the serious hunt for a playoff spot.

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cadoutsource 17 years ago

I am a tried and true Bears Fan, but I love Brett Favre. I'm glad that he is coming back. If I was playing football at the age of 40 I would also make sure I get the best deal out there. We are all marketers and we know its all about positioning yourself to make a sell. Besides he will join some of the greatest 40 year old Quarterbacks in the history of the game. Names like Sonny Jurgensen, Johnny Unitas, Earl Moral, Len Dawson, George Blanda and Warren Moon. I would love to be in that group and yes Brett Favre the Bear killer deserves a chance to be there as well. So stop hating on good old NO.4. he is an inspiration to the AARP crowd.:p
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brotherpaulmiller

17 years ago

Just a few thoughts on Brett Favre:

I'm so undecided about his return that I feel like--wait for it--Brett Favre.

While Brett was tossing around the idea of unretiring, he was intercepted 14 times.

If Brett Favre takes as long to decide to throw a shovel pass as he did to unretire, he's going to get sacked for sure.

But, on the other hand, Tony Romo has a higher percentage of interceptions, as does Joe Namath, and George Blanda, so he's not truly the king of interceptions.

And, if he doesn't get some better rapport with his receivers than he showed last night, it's going to be a LOOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGG season.

Make it a great day!

Brother Paul

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ThomM

17 years ago

Originally Posted by brotherpaulmiller

Just a few thoughts on Brett Favre:

I'm so undecided about his return that I feel like--wait for it--Brett Favre.

While Brett was tossing around the idea of unretiring, he was intercepted 14 times.

If Brett Favre takes as long to decide to throw a shovel pass as he did to unretire, he's going to get sacked for sure.

But, on the other hand, Tony Romo has a higher percentage of interceptions, as does Joe Namath, and George Blanda, so he's not truly the king of interceptions.

And, if he doesn't get some better rapport with his receivers than he showed last night, it's going to be a LOOOOOOONNNNNNGGGGG season.

Make it a great day!

Brother Paul

What? He had a reception for 4 yards:rolleyes:
Earlier in this thread is a list of QB's currently playing that are better then Favre.
Through most of his career he would of been at or near the top of that list.
Now he's like the car with 400,000 miles on it. It will still run but it breaks down alot and isn't as fast as it used to be.

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Kurt

17 years ago

His play isn't my complaint...It's how he dominates the sports media. I'd like to hear about all the other players once in a while...

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smogharp 17 years ago

It should make for an interesting season this year, like the Randy Moss days.

Say what you will about either player, but they're not boring
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TeddyP

17 years ago

I spelt it wrong - it is actually Brett Favre - football player - NFL QB

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ThomM 17 years ago

Originally Posted by TeddyP

I spelt it wrong - it is actually Brett Favre - football player - NFL QB

I was wondering when you would notice that
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- TeddyP 17 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by ThomM
  
  I was wondering when you would notice that
  
  LOL
  
  I have made tweets about it and spelt it wrong too. It must be something subconscious - because I know and have known for years it had a weird spelling - I mean countless jokes have been made about it. Mental block or something :p
  
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StevenK

17 years ago

Does anyone know really know why he waited till the last moment to come back?

Was it the money? Or the records?

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cyberquest 17 years ago

I like watching any team with a controversial player...it makes it more interesting. So even though I'm Cowboy's fan I definitely watch other teams that have some good talent. As long as I can catch other teams locally I watch the talent on the field, if Brett does poorly then I will be disappointed, but mainly because I like underdogs.
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Kurt 17 years ago

Originally Posted by Steve-K

Does anyone know really know why he waited till the last moment to come back?

Was it the money? Or the records?

IMO, he likely wanted to skip training camp, where he'd be in a dorm sharing a room, doing 2-a-days.

I also think he's more of an attention whore and he just loves football, than it was for money or records, but it's probably a little of all of the above.
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Ross Bowring

17 years ago

Favre needs to make up his Mississippi mind... and then stick with it.

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