Did Anyone Else Notice the Feed Hell on the Front Page?

salegurus

8 years ago

Just experienced it.....

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Kay King

8 years ago

Did not happen to me - how are you getting to that page?

Honestly - if that's what I'm greeted with - and I can't avoid it - I'll be gone.

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Did not happen to me - how are you getting to that page?

Honestly - if that's what I'm greeted with - and I can't avoid it - I'll be gone.

I just clicked on the WF Logo in top left corner and it took me there. I was shocked. Then I noticed that message that let me get back to the normal view. The url was warriorforum.com/feed/ ... I think to get back to sanity, I had to delete the feed part.

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Kay King

8 years ago

I see what you mean - I never click on the logo so wouldn't run into it myself.

I usually visit and start with "new posts" - but lately that's been "nonsense posts" and "spammy posts" so not been staying long.

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Jill Carpenter 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Obviously, I clicked NO. I can't believe that they gave up all that ad space that they were using to use this as the front page.

I intentionally clicked on FEED last night, and got that message last night.

I'm still wondering why the new mail alerts only show in feed mode and not in forum mode.

I really have no desire to use that feed mode at this time.
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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I see what you mean - I never click on the logo so wouldn't run into it myself.

I usually visit and start with "new posts" - but lately that's been "nonsense posts" and "spammy posts" so not been staying long.

I click on the logo when I want to grab an url from the main page to direct someone to the appropriate forum. That wouldn't be an easy task under that feed design. Boy, is that ugly.

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Princess Balestra

8 years ago

Ha!

I misread it as FOOD HALL — and wondered where alla the pizzas were.

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Kay King 8 years ago

If I want to see "main page" - I click on the word "forum" at top right....that takes you there without the feed.
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  With the word "feed" mentioned about 20 times here already, I'm mighty surprised Claude hasn't dropped in on the thread yet.
  
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HCFGrizzly

8 years ago

I also clicked "no" but I`m stuck with the horrible feed. Homepage is OK, but whenever I try to read a thread it takes me back to the idiotic feed. Any black magic spell on how to get back to normal? (searched profile options and found nothing)

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by HCFGrizzly

I also clicked "no" but I`m stuck with the horrible feed. Homepage is OK, but whenever I try to read a thread it takes me back to the idiotic feed. Any black magic spell on how to get back to normal? (searched profile options and found nothing)

You may have been put into a beta group where you don't have a choice. Go to the suggestion forum and tell them about it and ask to get out of it.

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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

I was never in the forced feed group but its getting wonky for me as well. keeps switching to feed (not stuck just switching). With the comment about the feed being more "modern" I'm wondering if thats their preference going forward. Maybe they want to leave Vbulletin in the dust.

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I was never in the forced feed group but its getting wonky for me as well. keeps switching to feed (not stuck just switching). With the comment about the feed being more "modern" I'm wondering if thats their preference going forward. Maybe they want to leave Vbulletin in the dust.

I think it's absolutely their preference going forward, but I think it's their preference for faulty reasons. I think they like the reddit look and popularity, and think that redditizing the WF will make it more popular and "modern." That's just my thoughts, and I have no inside knowledge on that, so they could have other reasons.

Reddit has a completely different function as a site, different types of users and it isn't at all similar to the function and purpose of WF. The feed makes the site a whole lot more cumbersome to navigate and much less user friendly for actually finding content that you want to participate in.

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8 years ago

Originally Posted by HCFGrizzly

I also clicked "no" but I`m stuck with the horrible feed. Homepage is OK, but whenever I try to read a thread it takes me back to the idiotic feed. Any black magic spell on how to get back to normal? (searched profile options and found nothing)

I don't know whether this works for you but when I clicked on No (display it old stylie) I was still stuck on the feed thing. After clicking the WF logo a couple or 3 times it reverts back to normal. Shame it doesn't seem to remember my preference when I logout and back in again later, and then have to click No again and the WF logo about 3 times to get it displaying normal.

I don't know why but this pops into my mind every time I have to click No now;

Tango & Cash "you ******* wanker" -...

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

After I clicked on the No thing, I had to remove the /feed from the url warriorforum.com/feed/ to get back to normal.

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HCFGrizzly 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

After I clicked on the No thing, I had to remove the /feed from the url warriorforum.com/feed/ to get back to normal.

Tried clicking on the logo to get to the homepage, logged out, even tried some Voodoo...nothing helped.
I created a thread and was asked to submit a printscreen to the helpdesk on the freelancer.com page. I have a feeling that this feed is not gonna go away...
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ForumGuru

Banned 8 years ago

As Kay has previously mentioned....clicking the "Forum" link should get you out of the feed view and back into forum view.

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HCFGrizzly 8 years ago

Originally Posted by ForumGuru

As Kay has previously mentioned....clicking the "Forum" link should get you out of the feed view and back into forum view.

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It gets me out of the feed view, but when I enter a thread...boom...back to feed view again.
Oh well....waiting on the support guys to help
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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by ForumGuru

As Kay has previously mentioned....clicking the "Forum" link should get you out of the feed view and back into forum view.

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That doesn't work for the people who are put in the beta groups.

@Grizzly ... start the suggestion thread. That's what I had to do to get out of it. Admins monitor that thread and that is more useful for this problem than freelancer support staff on the help desk.

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ForumGuru

Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

That doesn't work for the people who are put in the beta groups.

@Grizzly ... start the suggestion thread. That's what I had to do to get out of it. Admins monitor that thread and that is more useful for this problem than freelancer support staff on the help desk.

The Grizz has already posted a suggestion thread on this --> and I am in the beta group and the forum link works fine for me.

The suggestion thread:

http://www.warriorforum.com/suggesti...-rid-feed.html

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sbucciarel Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by ForumGuru

The Grizz has already posted a suggestion thread on this --> and I am in the beta group and the forum link works fine for me.

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Well, about a week or so ago, it didn't work for quite a few of us in OT. It didn't work until I posted in suggestions. An admin apologized and said that we were all in a beta group. After the apology, it all went away.

http://www.warriorforum.com/suggesti...orum-feed.html
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Banned 8 years ago

@HCF --> Bummer.

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Princess Balestra

8 years ago

My understandin' of feeds is that you choose what you get fed (unless you are some fat gal chained up in a sadist's dungeon.)

So I would prolly choose to be fed OT, Copywritin', an' mebbe Mind Harriers for a splash of gag reflex exercise — alla which I can do by visitin' the forum menyoo.

Unless they make the system more sophisticated, I can't see the point.

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8 years ago

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perryny

8 years ago

If I were to choose to begin using the Feed exclusively, is there any way to get to the OT?

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Princess Balestra

8 years ago

Originally Posted by perryny

If I were to choose to begin using the Feed exclusively, is there any way to get to the OT?

That also.

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AnniePot

8 years ago

What is annoying me big time is every time I log on I get asked: "Like what you see? Click 'Yes' to keep this modern design as your default. Click 'No' to keep the classic design as your default.

The programming clearly doesn't understand the meaning of the word 'Default'.

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Princess Balestra

8 years ago

Or 'like'.

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Kay King

8 years ago

The feed makes the site a whole lot more cumbersome to navigate and much less user friendly for actually finding content that you want to participate in.

I wonder what effect that will have on sales in the WSO and other paid sections. Will people spend much time on a forum that's harder to navigate? ..or that's more like a news feed than a participatory forum? I don't know but something to consider.

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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

I wonder what effect that will have on sales in the WSO and other paid sections. Will people spend much time on a forum that's harder to navigate?

Maybe its the other way around. I've been tracking the movement of some WSOs. I hardly check in there but was surprised to see how long offers stay on the front page compared to when last I checked. I remember you were lucky if your offer didn't roll off in half a day.

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sbucciarel

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Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Maybe its the other way around. I've been tracking the movement of some WSOs. I hardly check in there but was surprised to see how long offers stay on the front page compared to when last I checked. I remember you were lucky if your offer didn't roll off in half a day.

The last I ran one, it was a half day if you were lucky? What are you getting now?

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Princess Balestra 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

The last I ran one, it was a half day if you were lucky? What are you getting now?

Bacon Bra has to be in there somewhere.

With a LIMITED OFFER counter clickin' down from mebbe 17,382.
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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

The last I ran one, it was a half day if you were lucky? What are you getting now?

I picked out new ones (easier to tell when they were last at the top spot)

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...eo-course.html

is day 3 and only now just about to leave the first page. Perhaps they extended the page. I don't remember how long the page was before - but still - absolutely unheard of in many many years. Other sign is banner space is wide open all week.

I guess the trade off is thats a lot more time on the first page for your money but overall it indicates a lot of people have abandoned posting WSOs and we know the only reason why they would do that.

I didn't realize the rock and the hard place they were in because I never really bothered with the FL dot com site. Signed up last week ( or better yet retrieved my password because I was already signed up) just out of curiosity and noticed that job currency defaulted at least with my setup to INR currency.

I had one of those aahhh moments. Now I get it.

Beyond Just Fl though - I think forums - at least in this format - are dying, being suffocated by social networks that give you discussion space and much more. Every forum I frequent except one is down in usage but IM and SEO ones are waaay down (I think because there's seldom very much new to discuss).

So I am thinking they may think they NEED to change but I think they have read it wrong. Changing to that style will just finish the place off. Theres only one way to motivate marketers - bring in more buying power. Its been terribly diluted instead.

In a mostly make money online by showing people how to make money online system things go south much quicker and you have a SERIOUS issue when even the sellers are not making money.

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sbucciarel

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Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I picked out new ones (easier to tell when they were last at the top spot)

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...eo-course.html

is day 3 and only now just about to leave the first page. Perhaps they extended the page. I don't remember how long the page was before - but still - absolutely unheard of in many many years. Other sign is banner space is wide open all week.

I guess the trade off is thats a lot more time on the first page for your money but overall it indicates a lot of people have abandoned posting WSOs and we know the only reason why they would do that.

I didn't realize the rock and the hard place they were in because I never really bothered with the FL dot com site. Signed up last week ( or better yet retrieved my password because I was already signed up) just out of curiosity and noticed that job currency defaulted at least with my setup to INR currency.

I had one of those aahhh moments. Now I get it.

Wow ... 3 days. Banner ads open ... INR currency. I use ghostery to get rid of trackers so I never see the top ads anyway, so wasn't aware of that, but 3 days is how the Complete Sites for Sale section (now renamed) used to be, and I was able to make money from that section. Not any longer after the freemarket ad takes up the top third of that space and they changed the name of that section. Now your ad will stay forever, but makes little to no money.

Theres only one way to motivate marketers - bring in more buying power. Its been terribly diluted instead

That right there is the biggest problem. Buying power has disappeared with all the new members. There's little to no incentive to advertise any longer. No ROI. There's no incentive to create great products for the WF audience.

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sbucciarel

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Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

So I am thinking they may think they NEED to change but I think they have read it wrong. Changing to that style will just finish the place off. Theres only one way to motivate marketers - bring in more buying power. Its been terribly diluted instead.

In a mostly make money online by showing people how to make money online system things go south much quicker and you have a SERIOUS issue when even the sellers are not making money.

I can't think of a single social network that would be a good cms for an Internet Marketing forum, or any topic related forum that is broken down into subtopics. When I hear people here talk about social networks, it is only to exploit them for free advertising. I personally use Facebook and Twitter the way they were intended to be used ... not for spamming commercial links all over the place or uploading commercial products to Pinterest or Instagram, etc.

Honestly, I can't think of a better format for the types of promotions and types of discussions that have been the WF for all these years. Using a feed just mixes everything up into one big mess. I think that most users are interested only in particular areas on this forum. I know I am and there are subforums that I have zero interest in. A format that breaks the subforums apart from a Main forum (as it is now) is, IMO, what is needed so that people aren't forced to see content that they have no interest in.

As for change ... none of the changes have resulted in an improvement in the marketplace, profitability, or usability, so my answer is that the bulk of these changes have very negatively impacted the forum ... and that far less change would have been better.

That's just my opinion and no one can foresee what would have happened to the WF now, at this point in time, if ownership and everything else had not changed. I'd really love to know though.

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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

That's just my opinion and no one can foresee what would have happened to the WF now, at this point in time, if ownership and everything else had not changed. I'd really love to know though.

Well we have been back and forth on that quite a bit in the past

so I won't get into that much. Suffice to say when i back out of sections now its not because of any policy or change in ownership but because of the posts I see even when they are not spam.

My interest as you know is SEO - Good night! - Do NOT go to that section here to learn about it anymore. Posters like Yukon, MIkefriedman etc are still in there from time to time but besides that you are only going to learn how to get your site penalized by google. I even asked the few regulars in there why they even bother anymore. its like using brooms trying to clean a room while the garbage trucks keep backing up and unloading and I am not talking about spam but just lousy horrible used to work five years ago will kill you today advice (for some reason Indian SEO lags several years behind Google changes - don't know if language is the barrier).

I think its a fair point that someone else might not have driven the present demographics here but then that would primarily because they weren't owners of FL. If Allen had owned FL.com would he have isolated his existing user base or tried to integrate WF with what his base already was? Companies rarely buy businesses without synergy in mind but in this case that attempt was toxic.

Anyway one of my partners in one of our new startups seems interested in a WSO so I will report how that goes if she goes through with it. It can't hurt and is still rather cheap. I just don't know anymore whose actually being reached.

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sbucciarel

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Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Anyway one of my partners in one of our new startups seems interested in a WSO so I will report how that goes if she goes through with it. It can't hurt and is still rather cheap. I just don't know anymore whose actually being reached.

Yeah, I'd like to know how it goes.

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Mike Anthony 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Yeah, I'd like to know how it goes.

Will do . Might not be the best test because with what I am seeing I will recommend NOT going all out on graphics etc as that is likely to be a huge waste of time for the results. If (big if) it shows some signs of life then maybe spruce it up then (lol...as you can tell I have loooooow expectations)

Plus its not a get rich quick offer so that might dampen it too for that crowd.
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Dennis Gaskill

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

is day 3 and only now just about to leave the first page. Perhaps they extended the page. I don't remember how long the page was before...

I'm pretty sure there were 60 listings per page when Allen owned the place. If not that it was 50 or 55, but I know it was at least 50 and I'm pretty sure it was 60.

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ForumGuru

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Snapshot in time --> on June 4, 2014 we had 55 threads per WSO page.

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Dennis Gaskill 8 years ago

Originally Posted by ForumGuru

Snapshot in time --> on June 4, 2014 we had 55 threads per page.

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So you're saying I have a pretty good memory. Thanks, Don!
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Mike Anthony

8 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

I'm pretty sure there were 60 listings per page when Allen owned the place. If not that it was 50 or 55, but I know it was at least 50 and I'm pretty sure it was 60.

Originally Posted by ForumGuru

Snapshot in time --> on June 4, 2014 we had 55 threads per WSO page.

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Good info and memory. Unless my count was off its about the same now so a longer page wouldn't explain why first page was taking three days this week to roll off

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HCFGrizzly

8 years ago

It seems that posting in suggestions helped.
When I logged in today the dreadful feed was gone

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Oziboomer

8 years ago

So glad I must have taken the red pill.

Feed me not.

It is such shame when you see the erosion of members that used to contribute and are now gone.

First perhaps it was spam and posts with little respect for the OP or value adding.

Now do you want to eat spam?

Forcing people down a path is counterproductive.

Hopefully the mods take notice.

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sbucciarel Banned 8 years ago

Originally Posted by Oziboomer

Forcing people down a path is counterproductive.

Hopefully the mods take notice.

The mods are only doing the job they are told to do and paid to do. They are not the decision makers that decide the focus and direction of this forum. That's on the owners.
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ForumGuru

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Two days ago, for the first time in many, many, months I purchased a WSO --> and I must say that so far I am quite well pleased with the product and the price offered. However, if I did not already own some other stuff from one of the partner vendors, I would have skipped it (at least for a while) as the activity on thread was slim, and mostly from noobs with nary a thanks to be seen.

What a change...in the old days, with similar offers, a cartel of affiliates and fanboys would have probably had the fist page or two of the thread filled with "testimonials" and "reviews" and we would have seen at least a dozen or more thanks on the OP. I am not sure with this one...but at the low price offered it may be only the vendor partner and WF profiting on this one.

So far tho...I must say I am glad I picked up the "Special Offer". However, I believe I first noticed the offer via one of the WF emails that hit my box...at least it was good to see they promoted a decent offer from a person/company with a proven track record.

Maybe it was just blind luck as I have rarely read the full sales pages of the other offers they have sent me prior to clicking away. In-fact, I rarely even look at the offers I am sent by WF.

Oh well, just a small taste of my recent WSO experience.

While the organic and other clicks here have diminished greatly...I may put a couple simple small packs up as a WSO just to see if anything I could call profitable happens here.

It does look like the pace of the page has slowed considerably over the past 10 months or so...maybe it's worth spending a few bucks to find out if any organic sales can be easily made.

Anyway, it's nice to see Freelancer hooked us up with a highly usable offer at a good price (this time)...maybe it is a small sign off good things to come. In-fact the entire purchasing process through the Freelancer system (this was my first or second Warrior Payments purchase) was excellent. The thank you page was quite detailed ( I know, the vendor handles it) and professional and the entire experience with Warrior Payments as a buyer was quite smooth.

WF does need to coddle a few reputable vendors, I believe, to try to help get this thing back on track. And no, I am not talking about doing more WAMAs either. That said, JVZoo is my platform of choice for affiliate sales, and I still can't see much reason to use WP unless WF picks it up and mails the offer.

Oh, Alaister...

As far as how my last bump went --> which was months and months ago...the offer stuck on the front page for maybe 8-9 hours or less, which was the primary reason why I stopped bumping it. After 24 hours or so I believe the thread was already pushed to page 3, if I am remembering correctly. Not cool when you are trying to sell images and graphics up against a sea of get rich now offers. Sure a great offer stands out...but not so much when it gets buried that fast.

Freelancer has eliminated the free giveaways, and the offers that were basically just collecting email addresses from the WSO section...that move alone has slowed the pace of the page down considerably.

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sbucciarel

Banned 8 years ago

I wanted to get to the suggestion forum. Getting a lot of this today

Error 503 Service Unavailable

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XID: 593655178
Varnish cache server

and this error message when I hit thanks.

I clicked on the logo and it took me to the feed version, even though I've already chosen my default view as the forum view. It didn't "remember" my choice.

[sigh]

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positivenegative 8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

Getting a lot of this today

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Yes, same for me several times. Getting a bit fed up with having to clear cache/history every time, and even then it sometimes still doesn't log me in. The old days may have had their own inimitable problems but they were easier.... much easier.
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- Mike Anthony 8 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by positivenegative
  
  The old days may have had their own inimitable problems but they were easier.... much easier.
  
  Actually the old days toward the end used to see the site completely down almost once every month.
  
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  Princess Balestra 8 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony
  
  Actually the old days toward the end used to see the site completely down almost once every month.
  
  Tellya, any time I am headed toward the end, gonna figure on gettin' completely down more than once every month.
  
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Cali16

8 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

I wanted to get to the suggestion forum. Getting a lot of this today

Error 503 Service Unavailable

Service Unavailable
Guru Meditation:

XID: 593655178
Varnish cache server

and this error message when I hit thanks.

Same here, Suzanne. Guess they're tweaking things... again...

Still can't access my private messages. Oh well...