Weight Loss and Gas

10 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

But every time my weight starts to drop, I get this massive gas and bloating. There's a large volume of gas and it smells terrible. It's just ridiculous. You know it's bad when you find your own gas offensive. My face also feels hot and I'm really oily. .

That only happens to people who feel they just have to share such things on the internets. The universe hears our cry for Karma before it even happens.

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irawr

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

That only happens to people who feel they just have to share such things on the internets. The universe hears our cry for Karma before it even happens.

You don't understand.

It's hot and humid here. So I'm sitting here trying to work on my sites while lightly sweating, not feeling too great, pretty tired, body aches. Then it comes in these waves and it won't stop. After each wave hits I feel a little bit lightheaded.

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perryny

10 years ago

Maybe a good, long MGD session will get the whole system flushed?

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irawr

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by perryny

Maybe a good, long MGD session will get the whole system flushed?

Sounds like a plan.

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

And how is anyone on an internet forum going to help you if you are sick?

That's how.

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Mike Anthony

10 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

That's how.

Nope... use Google and find expert advice...relying on IM forum advice when sick makes no sense whatsoever.

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Kay King 10 years ago

Get some probiotics and something for gas like Phazyme at Walmart or a drug store. When a diet change causes uncomfortable symptoms, treat the symptoms and keep dieting. Your body will adjust.

Try a high protein diet for a couple weeks. You don't starve and the weight comes off. After a few days your body will adapt to it and you'll feel great.

(not my site, of course) Low Carb for Beginners
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irawr

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Nope... use Google and find expert advice...relying on IM forum advice when sick makes no sense whatsoever.

I never asked for advice.

Originally Posted by Lucian Lada

Well, you're going about it the wrong way. Losing weight is not only about cutting back on calories, but also cutting back on carbs.

I'm not fat, but I had some belly fat. After just a few weeks of avoiding anything that has lots of carbs such as bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and obviously candy and soda, I lost quite a lot without ever feeling hungry. I eat meat/fish/eggs with vegetables + healthy fats such as nuts, avocado, butter, cheese, sometimes dark chocolate, etc.

It's easy to follow and you feel great, and you don't even need to count calories. Also, following this way of eating, I went from eating 4-5 times a day to eating only 2-3 times, sometimes less. Actually, I began fearing that I'm eating too little.

You've got some pretty contradictory things going on here. If you consume carbs and do not do something to burn them off, they will get stored as fat. So cutting carbs causes most people to drop weight and have no energy. If you balance this out correctly (macros) this is much easier. Note: You can not survive with zero carbs, you will end up in the hospital. Most people were taught in school to overeat carbs, it's known now that the "food pyramid" was "slightly carb heavy" and there are many highly accessible foods that are pure carbs.

Cutting out sources of concentrated carbs is good advice. Cola/pop is just candy water, a single can of it and you're over the recommended maximum amount of sugar intake for the day. The cola/candy companies have fought tooth and nail to keep the recommended maximum amount off the packaging in the US. They argued that it would be confusing to have a nutritional recommendation that represented a maximum, rather then a recommended amount. That's why it's not on the label, because there's no minimum recommended amount and it "would be confusing to consumers." I guess "0g-37.5g" was deemed too difficult for people to understand. I avoid bread, for whatever reason all the bread companies add sugar to the bread now, so you're eating candy bread, no idea why they would add concentrated carbs to something already loaded with carbs. I also don't eat any white pasta, it's all whole grain pasta. It's the same amount of calories per serving, but white pasta is almost pure carbs.

Telling anybody who is trying to lose weight that they don't need to count calories is quite possibly the worst weight loss advice I've ever heard. There's ways to circumvent it, such as portion size control, but if you're exercising daily, you're going to have to be relatively aware of your caloric intake and your weight. If your caloric reduction and estimated calories burned from exercise takes you too low, you will not be able to sustain it, your subconscious brain will take over, and you will find yourself at the nearest restaurant. Again, jump on an exercise bike for 30 minutes, do a pretty aggressive routine, and try halving your calorie intake, after about 3 days, you will start having uncontrollable food attacks. It's like a panic attack where you shove double cheeseburgers into your pie hole until your hormones respond.

Well it's been proven over and over that eating more meals, but smaller, is better. So I have no idea why you did that. Saying you cut carbs and feel great is the biggest pile of crap I've ever heard as well. Cut some more out and tell me how you feel.

Originally Posted by Kay King

Get some probiotics and something for gas like Phazyme at Walmart or a drug store. When a diet change causes uncomfortable symptoms, treat the symptoms and keep dieting. Your body will adjust.

I already take them, already on a high protein diet.

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As Miss Terra might say, "ewwww"
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Frank Donovan

10 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

Well it's been proven over and over that eating more meals, but smaller, is better. So I have no idea why you did that. Saying you cut carbs and feel great is the biggest pile of crap I've ever heard as well. Cut some more out and tell me how you feel.

Sheesh. There's enough nonsense and misinformation about diet already. No need to add to it.

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Claude Whitacre 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Sheesh. There's enough nonsense and misinformation about diet already. No need to add to it.

Then I'll be quiet.
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irawr

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

Sheesh. There's enough nonsense and misinformation about diet already. No need to add to it.

I'm not going to argue on IM forums about this but:

If you do a flawed study that eliminates the advantages of eating multiple smaller meals throughout the day, then there will be no advantage. The media loves to cover stories like this all the time, which does nothing but create confusion. Which is likely why you're commenting, you saw a story on TV and failed to think critically about what was being told.

Athletes all around the planet eat that way and there's a reason for it.

I want to see you tell this guy he's misinformed.

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Frank Donovan

10 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

I want to see you tell this guy he's misinformed.

I probably would - if he posted here. In the meantime, I'll have to make do with addressing any dietary comments to existing members, including those who habitually complain about their digestive disorders.
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Jill Carpenter

10 years ago

Note: You can not survive with zero carbs, you will end up in the hospital.

Try telling that to these people here:

https://gistonice.wordpress.com/2015...past-17-years/

Carnivore Family Has Eaten A Zero Carb, All-Beef Diet For The Past 17 Years

There is a video somewhere I think, trying to find it.

The wife apparently had lymes disease, and she got rid of it naturally.

They think the spyrochetes when active needed to feed on carbs. With no carbs for them to eat in the system they all died eventually.

Looks like another person found the findings of the Anderson family useful:

My Zero Carb Experience with Lyme Disease by Alison Lyons | Eat Meat. Drink Water.

Looks like some references to this family on the net in general have been pulled as well. [insert a conspiracy theory here]

I could see them getting harassed for only giving meat to the kids. But hey, they all look alive to me!

BTW, not endorsing this, just pointing out some references that seem to show you can go w/o eating carbs and not wind up in the hospital.

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irawr

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter

Try telling that to these people here:

https://gistonice.wordpress.com/2015...past-17-years/

Carnivore Family Has Eaten A Zero Carb, All-Beef Diet For The Past 17 Years

There is a video somewhere I think, trying to find it.

The wife apparently had lymes disease, and she got rid of it naturally.

They think the spyrochetes when active needed to feed on carbs. With no carbs for them to eat in the system they all died eventually.

Looks like another person found the findings of the Anderson family useful:

My Zero Carb Experience with Lyme Disease by Alison Lyons | Eat Meat. Drink Water.

Looks like some references to this family on the net in general have been pulled as well. [insert a conspiracy theory here]

I could see them getting harassed for only giving meat to the kids. But hey, they all look alive to me!

BTW, not endorsing this, just pointing out some references that seem to show you can go w/o eating carbs and not wind up in the hospital.

That's from experience, I know someone personally who tried zero carbs and ended up having organs shut down. He was urinating blood.

Low carbs is fine. I don't think zero is a good idea.

Is a No Carb Diet Safe? | LIVESTRONG.COM

Risks Too little carbohydrates in the diet can place your body in a state of ketosis -- or an unhealthy buildup of ketones in the bloodstream. Excessive amounts of these chemicals can increase the level of acidity in your blood and place undue strain on your liver and kidneys. Low- and no-carbohydrate diets that restrict fruits, vegetables and grains can also prevent your body from receiving important vitamins and minerals. Chronic nutrient deficiencies can lead to severe damage of vital organs and in severe cases, death.

I realize that's not a medical text but I'm busy and I have to go.

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Jill Carpenter 10 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Personally l think that if l counted carbs all day l would go nuts.

Does that piece of cake have,....oh, sc*** it!

Haha, you made a funny with the nuts.

Ok, once you get into low carb you get to a point where you don't need to count the carbs. You learn what foods off the bat have zero carb count toward the diet.

Imagine, breakfast. Eggs, bacon, and you can have a couple oz of cheese melted on top if you want. Lots of butter.

There is a perfectly acceptable low carb breakfast. The cheese has a minimal carb count so that you'd want to watch.

Lunch - nice chicken breast and make up some mustard/mayo to dip it into. Have a zero cal jello with some homemade whipped cream on top if you like. Lots of whipped cream.

Cream has almost no carb. Milk on the otherhand has way too many carbs. No milk in your coffee, only heavy cream. Or even better, the bulletproof coffee where you put butter and coconut oil in the coffee. Yes, I put butter and oil in my coffee sometimes and use the hand blender to whip it in there - looks like a latte when I'm done. One giant cup of that and I am not hungry for hours. Calories? hell yes. Somewhere between 400 and 500. Carbs? nadda.

Dinner, season up a steak, and kick a vegetable in there if you want (from an approved list).

Just skip the potato - because that is loaded with carbs.

Like anything else, you do it long enough and get on a rhythm, you don't think. You don't need to think about it.
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- Kay King 10 years ago
  
  I joked about this diet here a while back....any diet that allows bacon is good with me!
  
  I did it the easy way - eggs, sausage, ham, shrimp and more shrimp, grilled chicken breast, green beans, my own "bag salad" that I make every couple days with all sorts of goodies in it. Lots of feta and some cheddar and olives for snacks and the occasional small handful of pecans. Not a boring diet - and I didn't feel deprived or hungry.
  
  I think I missed juice more than anything - I'm a big OJ and Welch's fan...bread was a close second as I'm a sandwichaholic.
  
  After 10 days of that diet I felt better and had more energy than I've had in the past year. It wasn't hard to stick with it.
  
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HeySal

10 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

That's from experience, I know someone personally who tried zero carbs and ended up having organs shut down. He was urinating blood.

Low carbs is fine. I don't think zero is a good idea.

Is a No Carb Diet Safe? | LIVESTRONG.COM
I realize that's not a medical text but I'm busy and I have to go.

0 carbs or 0 fat? 0 fat can kill you....fast. You need fat to survive, you just have to watch out what kind of fat you're taking in. Carbs are an alternative fuel and if you're getting enough fat - and the right fat, you don't need carb fuel.

Okay - guy - you didn't ask for advice and I'm not going to give it, but i am going to make an observation.

WHAT are you eating? Toxins stink. If you are eating food stuffed down with chemicals, pesticides, artificial crap, that stuff is stored in fat cells. And it stinks. It comes out as body odor - sometimes from the mouth, some from the skin. You can SMELL when people eat a lot of crap that they shouldn't put in their mouths. Now - fast forward, they've eaten enough trash to make them fat so they diet - fat cells letting their contents out into their circulatory and digestive systems. So when they get gaseous, they stink to hell and back.

There ya go - maybe you should worry just as much if not more about what kind of trash you're sucking in as about how many calories it amounts to.

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MissTerraK 10 years ago

As predicted, I say, "Ewww!"

Back when I was a kid, if you looked up "fart" in the dictionary, the definition was "small explosion between the legs." I kid you not.

Anyway, as far as small explosions go, nobody likes stink bombs! Remember that. And what Sal has explained; garbage in, garbage out. Don't load up your canon with all of that crap and when you have that small explosion, it won't smell like lilacs floating on the summer breeze, but you won't have that tell all, pesky trouser drag either.

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

I want to see you tell this guy he's misinformed.

I don't know about misinformed, however he does look like a condom full of walnuts.

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter

Well, for those who know that low carb works, it's not about cutting the fat.

In fact, you have to up the actual fat in a lot of cases.

It's the kind of fat.

Nuts can actually have more fat in them than some chips or even things with no fat in them.

But you have to watch the carb counts on the nuts too if you're doing low carb.

Serious low carb keeps the carb count to 20 or under a day.

Eating fat is what helps kill the perpetual appetite you might feel if you were on a fat free low calorie diet.

Ok, l knew someone would bring up the nuts one, but it is good fat, (least l heard it somewhere)?

Personally l think that if l counted carbs all day l would go nuts.

Does that piece of cake have,....oh, sc*** it!

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

You don't understand.

It's hot and humid here. So I'm sitting here trying to work on my sites while lightly sweating, not feeling too great, pretty tired, body aches. Then it comes in these waves and it won't stop. After each wave hits I feel a little bit lightheaded.

And how is anyone on an internet forum going to help you if you are sick?

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

There's a large volume of gas and it smells terrible. It's just ridiculous. You know it's bad when you find your own gas offensive. It smells like a sewer.

You say that as if it's a bad thing.

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10 years ago

Have you tried probiotics?

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Jill Carpenter

10 years ago

Dude, you got beer issues, and digestive issues.

Are you at least my age?

I don't even have those issues.

And I'm like considered "old" probably to everyone joining this forum these days.

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Dennis Gaskill 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter

And I'm like considered "old" probably to everyone joining this forum these days.

You kids are funny!
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irawr

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Jill Carpenter

Dude, you got beer issues, and digestive issues.

Are you at least my age?

I don't even have those issues.

And I'm like considered "old" probably to everyone joining this forum these days.

Actually the beer issue went away. I just drink less and it doesn't happen.

And this happens every time I try to lose weight so. Yeah. It's pretty common as well, I've discussed it with other people. It's because I'm losing it too quickly. I'm still at like 2,800-3,000 calories/day, but I ride an exercise bike daily and do an hour and a half work out routine every other day. I wasn't gaining anything at about 3,300, weight numbers weren't really doing anything either, small gains here and there on minor muscle groups. I used to do a more intensive routine (hours of weight lifting daily) and drink about 10 cans of miller lite pretty much daily and was still losing it. 4500-5000 calories a day. Beer was pretty much the only way to not lose weight that I could handle at that time. If you've ever tried to eat 5,000 calories a day of clean food it's pretty hard, trust me. Eat 5 cans of tuna, a box of whole wheat spaghetti (no sauce, just olive oil), and pound of broccoli and coli-flower for a meal or two and get back to me.

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Lucian Lada

10 years ago

Well, you're going about it the wrong way. Losing weight is not only about cutting back on calories, but also cutting back on carbs.

I'm not fat, but I had some belly fat. After just a few weeks of avoiding anything that has lots of carbs such as bread, potatoes, rice, pasta and obviously candy and soda, I lost quite a lot without ever feeling hungry. I eat meat/fish/eggs with vegetables + healthy fats such as nuts, avocado, butter, cheese, sometimes dark chocolate, etc.

It's easy to follow and you feel great, and you don't even need to count calories. Also, following this way of eating, I went from eating 4-5 times a day to eating only 2-3 times, sometimes less. Actually, I began fearing that I'm eating too little.

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10 years ago

One of the biggest problems that we face when struggling to lose weight is that we rarely listen to our bodies, and what it is trying to tell us.

Over the years, through self-indulgence and not paying attention to what we are putting INTO our bodies and how it actually affects us, we lose our internal ability to judge what we really need to be eating. Thankfully, It’s very easy to train yourself to listen to your body, it just takes a little bit of practice.

One of the best things about listening to your body is that you won’t have to feel deprived or hungry. When you eat what your body is craving, you naturally eat less, or you eat more, but healthier foods that nourish your body and give you the energy and mental clarity that you need.

You see, when you’re eating all of that junk food that is nutritionally lacking, your body needs to continue to signal to you that you’re hungry so you will eat more and more. If it never gets enough of the nutrients it needs, it will keep you perpetually hungry!

Once you start listening to your body and giving it what it needs, you’ll find yourself naturally losing weight. Your body won’t hold on to that extra fat anymore, because it won’t think it’s starving.

And you won’t feel deprived because you’ll still be able to eat many of the foods you love!

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by irawr

So I decided I was done being fat.

So I've been slowly decreasing my calorie intake on a weekly basis. This is actually the correct way to lose weight if anybody wants to know. You decrease your caloric intake by about 100 calories a day for a week. Check your weight and then either go down another 100 or stay at the same point for another week or two while your weight is still responding. Crazy people always suggest some insane 2,000 calorie diet. Since I work out daily, if I do that I will drop 3-4+ pounds a week, just kidding, it won't work because I'll end up at Mcdonalds having a bigmac eating contest.

But every time my weight starts to drop, I get this massive gas and bloating. There's a large volume of gas and it smells terrible. It's just ridiculous. You know it's bad when you find your own gas offensive. It smells like a sewer. From time to time, I'm worried I might poop myself. My face also feels hot and I'm really oily. I'm cranky and want to punch random objects. There's a box on the ground, I'm going to go punch it. One second. Ok, I punched it and it's screwed up now. I'll just use it for shipping, the USPS will do much worse.

I think I'm going to go take a nap now.

Originally Posted by irawr

You don't understand.

It's hot and humid here. So I'm sitting here trying to work on my sites while lightly sweating, not feeling too great, pretty tired, body aches. Then it comes in these waves and it won't stop. After each wave hits I feel a little bit lightheaded.

Originally Posted by irawr

I'm not going to argue on IM forums about this but:

If you do a flawed study that eliminates the advantages of eating multiple smaller meals throughout the day, then there will be no advantage. The media loves to cover stories like this all the time, which does nothing but create confusion. Which is likely why you're commenting, you saw a story on TV and failed to think critically about what was being told.

Athletes all around the planet eat that way and there's a reason for it.

I want to see you tell this guy he's misinformed.

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Gee, what is all of this stuff about counting carbs, l was getting slightly overweight, and cut down on icecreams and custard/apple pies, (yeah, l know sounds like a Wilfred Brimley commercial) and the weight is slowly coming off, (probably need to cut down on cakes as well)?

Just cut something fattening out of your diet, give it a week or so, then continue cutting til you can't take it anymore?

And replace something fattening with something less fattening. I usually have nuts for a snack, instead of chips, etc.

As for your conspiracy claims, best to find some studies done by reputable Universities, and,....never mind.

By the way welcome back WC!

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Jill Carpenter

10 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Gee, what is all of this stuff about counting carbs,

Just cut something fattening out of your diet, give it a week or so, then continue cutting til you can't take it anymore?

And replace something fattening with something less fattening. I usually have nuts for a snack, instead of chips, etc.

Well, for those who know that low carb works, it's not about cutting the fat.

In fact, you have to up the actual fat in a lot of cases.

It's the kind of fat.

Nuts can actually have more fat in them than some chips or even things with no fat in them.

But you have to watch the carb counts on the nuts too if you're doing low carb.

Serious low carb keeps the carb count to 20 or under a day.

Eating fat is what helps kill the perpetual appetite you might feel if you were on a fat free low calorie diet.

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Kay King 10 years ago

High protein - minimal carbs - 2 meals a day and wasn't hungry in between. Butter - olive oil, no margarine or other oils. Supposed to be "no sugar" but I had my tsp of sugar in tea each morning. You have to do what works for you.

Fish, meat, lots of eggs, veggies that grow above the ground (I stuck to green beans as they are lowest carb)...no fruit or juice, no bread/pasta/potatoes.

Stuck to it for 5 weeks - lost 15 lbs which was what I needed to lose.

Didn't have any of the symptoms the OP mentions - but I wonder if it could be due to increased fiber in the diet.

Edit: The multiple meals per day may be healthy but it keeps a dieter focused on food all day and that can be counter-productive.
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10 years ago

You just gave me a new Idea for a clickbank product

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You just gave me a new Idea for a clickbank product

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haha! Awesome! I was waiting for someone to say that. LOL

A membership site perhaps, would do well. $9.99 per month, and get 1000 people to join.....that gives you $9,999 per month.....

Can I have a cut please.. LOL. Actually people are doing this. Memberships sites rock da house!
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