Sen Kennedy Dead

Wow - we knew it was on the way, but it's still a surprise when it actually happens.

That is shocking. Just a few days ago he was worried about filling his spot quickly.

For better or worse he was a trooper...

RIP TK -

The end of an era.
RIP.

How sad for the family since Eunice Shriver died just a few weeks ago. RIP.

No, Ted Kennedy= a man that has just died.
A man dying does not equal politics,and even if you want to equate it to that, start your own thread instead of tainting one which was created to honor the man.
Post like this do not diminish the man, they diminish the poster.

That sucks. Is that all the kennedy's? i thought there was like one or two younger kennedy's around

Michael,I believe he is the last of the orginal family,but yes, there are many children and grandchildren arund.

I thought i saw one that LOOKED like a kennedy. Same hair, toothy grin..etc

its not a political thread. its a thread about a politician.

Kay, the point is the same as when Michael Jackson died, or Les Paul or Ed Mcmahon or even my father.
Or how about the person whose death brought about even more headlines than Michael Jackson, Princess Diana?
All these people have touched others lives in one way or another, and whether someone personally likes someone or not,they should get a level of respect in death.It takes a lack of class in my opinion to attack somone that has just passed.

And it should be mentioned, After having 3 brothers killed all for their country, one in WWII and the two others assassinated, Ted became the father for all their kids and was under extreme pressure his entire life, even if you take away politics.

I've always wondered if ted made a deal somewhere. Every other kennedy man, especially the ones in politics were taken out, except him. I wonder why fate spared him this long. I remember reading something one time that there was a curse on the kennedy family from something that happened back in joe kennedy's day

I agree with Kim. This isn't the thread to put him down, argue politics, etc.

For example, here's an article about what world leaders are saying about him: World leaders rush to pay tribute to Kennedy - Yahoo! News


And I'm sure that other senators are stepping forward and offering statements. But even those that vehemently disagreed with him aren't going to put forth the reasons they disagreed with him... not today. You're not going to hear a conservative Senator say, "Ted Kennedy sucked eggs." Maybe later, but not today.

Instead, they'll offer their sympathies and maybe praise him on a strength. Today, if they don't have anything neutral or nice to say, they probably won't say anything at all. It's no fair beating up on a man who can't defend himself.

Here's the problem with these type of threads, and I think both sides will
agree.

While it shouldn't be a political thread, the fact remains, the man was a
politician.

Those who liked him and respected him and also want to respect the rules
of this forum (no politics) will honor both rules and maybe talk about what
a good father he was or whatever, but will keep politics out of it.

The problem is, those who did not like him (who is liked by everybody?) will
feel left out and more importantly than that, will feel that the thread itself
is tilted unfairly because all anybody is seeing is the nice things being said.
They will therefore not be able to restrain themselves from turning this
political in order to get THEIR views heard.

It's not right but it is what it is because THAT is human nature. And for
any of us who truly want to just honor the man to expect it to go any
other way is unrealistic BECAUSE of the fact that it's human nature.

It is for that reason that I even hesitated to participate in this thread
because I knew from the very first post where this was going to go.

It was inevitable.

Personally, these are the threads that I watch carefully to decide who I
will and will not EVER do business with.

Take that for what it means to you.

That is pure speculation on your part. On the other hand, we see for a FACT what type person you are.

Facts vs. pure guessing. What a strong argument you make.

BTW, I'm not a Reagan fan by any means, but I can honestly say I shed a tear when he was shot. He was elected as my president, therefore he was my president, despite any disagreements I may have had with him over policies and I didn't want him to die. Not be re-elected yes, but die just so someone "better" would take office, not on your life.

Ted Kennedy was also duly elected and you show just how little you really respect democracy.

As far as Bush goes, I may not respect the man, but I sure will respect his death.

How do we get you banned again?

I have come to a few conclusions - one is that people who start **** in a thread are like agent provacateurs. They will cause a conflict so that the thread will be deleted, and/or they will make it into a taboo topic so it will get deleted.

I vehemently disagree with SOME OF Ted K's POLICIES. However he was a MAN - he was a fallible HUMAN BEING - he made mistakes. So have we all.

Out of respect for those Americans who believed him, out of respect for his family WHO SERVED THIS COUNTRY, AND DIED FOR IT,

...and most of all for the Warriors who feel like 'paying respect' could all those who have ugliness on the brain possibly contain yourselves????

I promise not to DIS you when you die.

:confused:

Hey -he's beyond any damned thing we can say or think about him now. What keeping the peace during these times does is comfort others who are grieved by his death. They are the ones that the words cut - not the Senator.

I will say - as I said during Jackson's passing --------Just give some respect to those who morn.

I agree with Kurt and Michael - this is not the time to discuss how you felt about the man. Show some respect for those who grieve.

RIP Ted -- wherever you went.

Do you think having your 3 eldest brothers(who he probably looked up to) killed, 2 publicly assassinated, might make you go off the deep end, behavior wise?

Maybe cause you to drink too much, maybe cloud your judgement?

Unless you've been there, it probably isn't something you should comment on.

And yes it happened in my family when I was 22.

He was a good public servant. I wish the best to his family... cancer sucks.

What a great man from an amazing dynasty that did a lot for this country.