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Anyone into craft beers? we have a massive craft beer culture in Sydney and just below our offices we have a brewery that makes some awesome IPA's and lagers.

Wondering what imports people have tried and recommend - I've been told to cleanse my palette as I'm disgracing my friends in Raleigh, NC by 'admiring' shock tops and kolsch.
  • Profile picture of the author hardraysnight
    too much of a traditionalist to change to overpriced under taste yuppy beer

    Mangatainoka rules

    i hear the tui sing
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    Gotta tell you, I'm over IPAs. I enjoy them, but they're starting to overpopulate menus and shelf space.

    To rebel, I've been drinking more Stouts. I'm currently stuck on Left Hand Brewing's Bittersweet Nitro Milk Stout. Bittersweet Nitro - Left Hand Brewing

    The word on the street is that sours are going to start hitting the marketplace with the same brute force that IPAs did four or five years ago.
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  • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
    If you look at the labels closely, you will discover that many of the 'craft beers' that have developed quasi-mythical stature - are actually produced by the world's two largest beer producers.

    The folks at Sam Adams are attempting to get federal legislation enacted to address the issue. They want the packaging to prominently display the actual producer.

    Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

    The word on the street is that sours are going to start hitting the marketplace with the same brute force that IPAs did four or five years ago.
    I've been drinking a lot of sours lately. Love them.

    Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

    If you look at the labels closely, you will discover that many of the 'craft beers' that have developed quasi-mythical stature - are actually produced by the world's two largest beer producers.

    The folks at Sam Adams are attempting to get federal legislation enacted to address the issue. They want the packaging to prominently display the actual producer.

    Thank you.
    It's not entirely true though. It is true that InBev, for example, has been buying up a lot of craft breweries (the latest one being Wicked Weed that everyone is upset about), but for the most part they are leaving them alone to do their own thing. They are helping with better equipment and facilities in some cases, however in most cases with their acquisitions they are just adding their distribution network to the craft breweries they are buying.

    To me the legislation is a little misleading. Basically, they are trying to make these craft beers slap their parent company label on them hoping that will chase away beer enthusiasts.

    Now if they start pumping some garbage like Bud Light out of Elysian Brewery, I'll have different feelings about this.

    Oh, and personally I don't care about the micro versus macro brew labels. I just want good beer. All those labels are is an arbitrary number someone chose. If you ship more barrels per year than that, you are macro. Less than that, you are micro. Really has nothing to do with the quality of what you are producing.
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    • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
      Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

      I just want good beer.
      Since beer is all I drink in the way of alcohol, outside of the occasional very good bottle of wine, I agree.

      That said, once the corporate bean-counters' figure out a way to save a nickel, there goes, "letting them do their thing." It's inevitable.

      Thank you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Beehelp
    And has anyone tried to brew beer at home?
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by Beehelp View Post

      And has anyone tried to brew beer at home?
      I have and I've found that I simply don't have the patience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Marcus W K Wong
    Never got into stouts and lo and behold - first drop of guiness happened only just this year for me on St Patrick's Day.

    We do a decent set of IPA's local in Sydney, hasn't really boomed into the bars here (they're mainly stuck on lagers, pale ales that aren't as hoppy, and just recently - kolsch.

    @OptedIn, most of the craft beers in NSW Australia have their own microbreweries with bars / pubs attached to them (James Squire, Red Oak, Young Henry's, Lord Nelson just to name a few).

    Demand for brewers is pretty high in NSW, we're going to be the first state in Aus to offer Micro-brewery as a certification in TAFE (our equivalent to college).

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