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On an almost daily basis I think of how I could help People
with my money ...

Everything from helping my Dad with his mortgage
(which has been a goal of mine for many years) ... To
helping my Mum with her credit card debt ... To
helping one of my former Housemates have her own
flat ...

To giving generously with my Local Landlady
with her disadvantage Son ... To giving generously
with "buskers" in my City.
#money #power
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    You can only do that if you have the money available...if you don't have the money there's no point in thinking about it. You'll only send yourself on a guilt trip.

    The wish to help someone else can be a great motivator to earn more money.

    To me, money is not power. It's freedom.
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    • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
      I'm also a money is freedom guy Kay.

      I do see the power in money too, but only if it is earned in ease, and spent more easily. Few earn with ease, and even fewer spend with ease, so money actually disempowers them because they use force and fear, not power and love, to acquire the money.

      But I will say that it is a blessed energy to allow in to exchange for products and services
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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      Thanks for the feedback People.
      : )

      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      You'll only send yourself on a guilt trip.
      Why? If anything it just reminds me that I'm going to be very generous with my money. Nothing wrong with that. (IMO)
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Thanks for the feedback People.
        : )



        Why? If anything it just reminds me that I'm going to be very generous with my money. Nothing wrong with that. (IMO)
        Everyone is far more generous with money they have never had.

        Right now, you are the kind of person that doesn't generate a large income. To become wealthy (or at least comfortable) you have to become the type of person that earns a large income. You have to do things you don't do right now.

        People that actually generate a huge income start to see the differences between them and people who constantly need more money.

        And giving money to people who are never going to get ahead themselves....sucks the life out of you. Why? Because giving them money doesn't change who they are. After you give them money...a few months later they are back where they started. And now they just need a "little more help" from their favorite new benefactor. You.

        The people you want to help...what were they doing 5 years ago? Do you think giving them money will change them? Change their spending habits? Change how they live?

        Maybe for a few days...maybe for a few months (if you keep giving them money).

        It isn't that they are bad people, or aren't grateful....it's that they aren't going to change...so their circumstances aren't going to change.

        And thinking about how generous you would be if you had the money is a form of masturbation. If you were going to get the money, you would be actively earning it now. It wouldn't be a dream to make you feel good.

        To paraphrase Jim Rohn; "The important thing about earning a million dollars isn't the money...it's the person you had to become that could earn a million dollars."
        It isn't that making money changes you. It's that you have to change what you are doing...how you think....before you make any real money in the first place.

        And.....

        After you are making a really comfortable income, and you know the effort it took, the sacrifices made....the personal investment in time and resources.....then see how you feel about giving it away.

        The problem with having ambition...is that you see the people without ambition in a different light.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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          Thanks Claude. For what it's worth I've been
          working on several projects for months now. Including:

          1. Instant-Headlines.com [Essentially I had the idea of
          writing headlines for Peoples' Sales Letters/Sales
          Pages.] It failed because either it wasn't a good idea
          or I didn't keep pursuing it.

          2. I decided to write the Sales Copy of a
          Dating/Seduction eBook. And although I spent a long
          time putting it together I didn't even have receive a reply
          from the Author.

          3. Another project was my "Think And Grow Rich"
          Page. [Basically I thought of the idea of providing
          Webmasters with a Sales Page and an audio copy
          of the book.] Again it wasn't successful. Why? Partly
          because it wasn't something anyone was interested in
          ... Considering there are loads of audio copies of the
          book on YouTube.com

          Right now I'm working on another project
          (YourHealthyKnowledge.com) which is essentially a
          collection of health eBooks that I'm writing the Sales
          Copy for. I'm 90% certain I can make this venture
          successful providing that I keep working on it. Then,
          when I have raised enough funds, I'm going to continue
          creating "BlastFromThePast" which I'm calling my "Million
          Dollar Experiment."

          For what it's worth ...

          I will never give up my Dream of helping
          People with my finances ...


          (Never. Period.)
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          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
            Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

            Thanks Claude. For what it's worth I've been
            working on several projects for months now. Including:

            1. Instant-Headlines.com [Essentially I had the idea of
            writing headlines for Peoples' Sales Letters/Sales
            Pages.] It failed because either it wasn't a good idea
            or I didn't keep perusing it.]

            2. I decided to write the Sales Copy of a
            Dating/Seduction eBook. And although I spent a long
            time putting it together I didn't even have receive a reply
            from the Author.

            3. Another project was my "Think And Grow Rich"
            Page. [Basically I thought of the idea of providing
            Webmasters with a Sales Page and an audio copy
            of the book.] Again it wasn't successful. Why? Partly
            because it wasn't something anyone was interested in
            ... Considering there are loads of audio copies of the
            book on YouTube.com

            Right now I'm working on another project
            (YourHealthyKnowledge.com) which is essentially a
            collection of health eBooks that I'm writing the Sales
            Copy for. I'm 90% certain I can make this venture
            successful providing that I keep working on it. Then,
            when I have raised enough funds, I'm going to continue
            creating "BlastFromThePast" which I'm calling my "Million
            Dollar Experiment."

            For what it's worth ...

            I will never give up my Dream of helping
            People with my finances ...


            (Never. Period.)
            The phrase "Flogging A Dead Horse" comes to mind. Why then do you keep repeating the same thing?
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            • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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              What did I repeat?
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              • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                What did I repeat?
                Trying to provide webmasters and authors with sales copy as a service. Too write it and impose it on them, or at least try too. That's what Freelancer and other sites are for . If they want anything they come to you.
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                • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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                  OK. Thanks.
                  : )

                  Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                  Why then do you keep repeating the same thing?
                  Because although I haven't been successful that
                  doesn't mean that it's not possible. (Just that I haven't
                  figured out how to make it work.)

                  "Success is the ability to move from one
                  failure to another without loss of enthusiasm."

                  --Winston Churchill

                  Just a thought.
                  : )
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                    "Success is the ability to move from one
                    failure to another without loss of enthusiasm."

                    --Winston Churchill

                    Just a thought.
                    : )
                    That sounds more like a learning disability to me.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

                    OK. Thanks.
                    : )



                    Because although I haven't been successful that
                    doesn't mean that it's not possible. (Just that I haven't
                    figured out how to make it work.)

                    "Success is the ability to move from one
                    failure to another without loss of enthusiasm."

                    --Winston Churchill

                    Just a thought.
                    : )
                    I like your determination. But there is another side to the Winston Churchill quote. You have to learn from your mistakes. And you have to make fewer and fewer mistakes as you go from one attempt to the next. Otherwise, you'll never get anywhere.


                    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                    As opposed to people like Claude who thinks they have power and do.
                    Although I take that as a compliment, neither thing is true.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                      I like your determination. But there is another side to the Winston Churchill quote. You have to learn from your mistakes. And you have to make fewer and fewer mistakes as you go from one attempt to the next. Otherwise, you'll never get anywhere.
                      Great point. Thanks Claude. : ) Yeah I try and do that too.
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                    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                      I like your determination. But there is another side to the Winston Churchill quote. You have to learn from your mistakes. And you have to make fewer and fewer mistakes as you go from one attempt to the next. Otherwise, you'll never get anywhere.




                      Although I take that as a compliment, neither thing is true.
                      Phew, good to hear their are no other people like Claude.
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      • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        If anything it just reminds me that I'm going to be very generous with my money.
        It's easy to say what you're "going to do."

        For example, I am going to flap my arms and fly to the moon and when I return, I'm going to marry Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

        Thank you - from both Mary Elizabeth and myself.

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

          It's easy to say what you're "going to do."

          For example, I am going to flap my arms and fly to the moon and when I return, I'm going to marry Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

          Thank you - from both Mary Elizabeth and myself.

          That is absolute nonsense, no-body can marry Mary Elizabeth.



          I assume that she is a Queen of something, and likes to wear dresses made out of curtains?

          Sorry,......ummm,.........anyway welcome back, (you haven't posted for a while).
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

          It's easy to say what you're "going to do."

          For example, I am going to flap my arms and fly to the moon and when I return, I'm going to marry Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

          Thank you - from both Mary Elizabeth and myself.

          Although she is an attractive woman, that particular photo shows an incredible talent with lighting, color, make up and the ideal hairstyle for her. The photographer really knows their craft. That little wisp of hair across the cheek? Her expression? Expertly done shot.
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          • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            The photographer really knows their craft. That little wisp of hair across the cheek? Her expression? Expertly done shot.
            (Lol) Don't forget the blue Phoenix on her left shoulder.
            (Hehe)
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          • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            Although she is an attractive woman, that particular photo shows an incredible talent with lighting, color, make up and the ideal hairstyle for her. The photographer really knows their craft. That little wisp of hair across the cheek? Her expression? Expertly done shot.
            Screw all that. She's hot. Period.

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            • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
              Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post

              Screw all that. She's hot. Period.


              Dear old Curmudgeon.

              I said she was attractive. But compare the two photos. In the last one, she looks like an attractive young woman. In the first photo, she looks almost surreally attractive.Almost elfish.

              Be nice to me. You may be the only one here that I can still beat up. It might take an hour (with rest breaks and bathroom breaks), but I think I can do it.
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              • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
                Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                Dear Mr. Old Curmudgeon.
                Edited to reflect the respect I deserve and demand. Thank you.

                I said she was attractive. But compare the two photos. In the last one, she looks like an attractive young woman. In the first photo, she looks almost surreally attractive.Almost elfish.
                FYI - the photo was taken at a red carpet event, thereby negating your observations.

                Be nice to me. You may be the only one here that I can still beat up. It might take an hour (with rest breaks and bathroom breaks), but I think I can do it.
                I love a man with lofty goals, regardless of how unrealistic and misplaced they may be.

                Thank you.
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Originally Posted by OptedIn View Post


                  I love a man with lofty goals, regardless of how unrealistic and misplaced they may be.

                  Thank you.
                  I didn't really think I could beat you up...until I got a cane. So...I'm armed.
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                  • Profile picture of the author OptedIn
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    I didn't really think I could beat you up...until I got a cane.
                    I'll loan you mine, but I don't think it would help.

                    Thank you.
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                  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    I didn't really think I could beat you up...until I got a cane. So...I'm armed.
                    Does that make you Citizen Cane?









                    (Getting that one in before Mark does.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Steve L
    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    On an almost daily basis I think of how I could help People
    with my money ...

    Everything from helping my Dad with his mortgage
    (which has been a goal of mine for many years) ... To
    helping my Mum with her credit card debt ... To
    helping one of my former Housemates have her own
    flat ...

    To giving generously with my Local Landlady
    with her disadvantage Son ... To giving generously
    with "buskers" in my City.
    You sound like you'd like the book Sacred Economics, it's free to read online, check it out!
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    People who actually have power don't need to broadcast it.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

      People who actually have power don't need to broadcast it.
      As opposed to people like Claude who thinks they have power and do.
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  • Profile picture of the author Leon Hamper
    I am happy to know that there is someone like you who would think about helping others - but I think giving them money is not the only solution. If you have a lot, you can give some to them but if you only have enough for your own expense, you can help them in a different way - like paying your local landlady on time. You can give buskers food or gifts aside from money.
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  • Profile picture of the author robinaraoz
    I agree that it can be a powerful motivator!

    I do believe that being generous is part of what makes us human. On the other hand it is easy to lose track in a world full of greed and selfishness...

    Therefore, being thankful is in my opinion an important factor that'll help us keep on the right track

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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    Thanks Claude. For what it's worth I've been
    working on several projects for months now. Including:

    1. Instant-Headlines.com [Essentially I had the idea of
    writing headlines for Peoples' Sales Letters/Sales
    Pages.] It failed because either it wasn't a good idea
    or I didn't keep perusing it.]

    2. I decided to write the Sales Copy of a
    Dating/Seduction eBook. And although I spent a long
    time putting it together I didn't even have receive a reply
    from the Author.

    3. Another project was my "Think And Grow Rich"
    Page. [Basically I thought of the idea of providing
    Webmasters with a Sales Page and an audio copy
    of the book.] Again it wasn't successful. Why? Partly
    because it wasn't something anyone was interested in
    ... Considering there are loads of audio copies of the
    book on YouTube.com

    Right now I'm working on another project
    (YourHealthyKnowledge.com) which is essentially a
    collection of health eBooks that I'm writing the Sales
    Copy for. I'm 90% certain I can make this venture
    successful providing that I keep working on it. Then,
    when I have raised enough funds, I'm going to continue
    creating "BlastFromThePast" which I'm calling my "Million
    Dollar Experiment."

    For what it's worth ...

    I will never give up my Dream of helping
    People with my finances ...


    (Never. Period.)
    Great l will send you my Paypal email, l need a break.

    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    The phrase "Flogging A Dead Horse" comes to mind. Why then do you keep repeating the same thing?
    C,mon, most horses online are dead, it is developing the distinction to notice the live ones, that counts.

    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    OK. Thanks.
    : )
    Because although I haven't been successful that
    doesn't mean that it's not possible. (Just that I haven't
    figured out how to make it work.)

    "Success is the ability to move from one
    failure to another without loss of enthusiasm."

    --Winston Churchill

    Just a thought.
    : )
    True, to a point, but some gold streams dry up, and others are fools gold, (usually where newbies dig) and the ones that actually turn into life changing streams, are very hard to find, but they are out there.

    I am digging up a vein myself at present, but it is a lot of hard work, although satisfying.


    But true, you have to reach 100% competency in any endeavor to extract the gold from it, the trick is learning when to ditch it and move on.

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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

    On an almost daily basis I think of how I could help People
    with my money ...

    Everything from helping my Dad with his mortgage
    (which has been a goal of mine for many years) ... To
    helping my Mum with her credit card debt ... To
    helping one of my former Housemates have her own
    flat ...

    To giving generously with my Local Landlady
    with her disadvantage Son ... To giving generously
    with "buskers" in my City.


    So you just think about it?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      So you just think about it?
      Lol. Well everything in Life begins with a thought. And, if that thought is inspiring/powerful/positive/strong enough/etc.... Then people will start seeing success with their endeavours.
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        Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

        Lol. Well everything in Life begins with a thought. And, if that thought is inspiring/powerful/positive/strong enough/etc.... Then people will start seeing success with their endeavours.


        Agreed but I was asking about you, not other people.

        Personally I don't think giving someone else money is a good idea, well, what I mean is a lot of folks will just blow it on nonsense stuff they don't need and be right back where they started before giving them money.

        I know a retired couple that are going through some rough times, gave them about 50 pounds of deer meat last week that I had in a chest freezer. When it comes to food or medicine I won't watch someone go without.

        I would also be less likely to finance credit card debt for someone else because that's not really helping them understand their problem. They need to learn from their own mistake otherwise it will never end.
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  • Profile picture of the author DURABLEOILCOM
    Work as hard as you can, invest in education and training. The money will come.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    But how about Genghis khan???

    He had no money and then he pwn3d the mega wealthy Chinese.
    He killed so many people he reduced greenhouse gases by 5%.
    5% of the world is a descendant of Genghis Khan.

    Or how about Stalin? He died with only one kopeck in his pocket.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      But how about Genghis khan???

      He had no money and then he pwn3d the mega wealthy Chinese.
      He killed so many people he reduced greenhouse gases by 5%.
      5% of the world is a descendant of Genghis Khan.

      Or how about Stalin? He died with only one kopeck in his pocket.
      Most people equate power as control over many people. That can be as a general, a dictator, or an employer.

      I think the reason wealth is thought of as power is that wealthy people generally employ lots of others, and that gives them some control over their lives.

      That's a guess.

      Personally, I don't see the appeal.
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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I think the reason wealth is thought of as power is that wealthy people generally employ lots of others, and that gives them some control over their lives.
        It's probably more to do with the fact that the "rich" pay for the political campaigns of politicians.
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