While You Were Sleeping

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Any suggestions for sleep/work schedule for today's world with hybrid and 100% remote work? Especially for those overseas or in different time zones?

Freelancer types have faced this for a long time where they are in, let's say, Asia but mostly work for clients in the US or Europe.

But post COVID, some people are intentionally choosing remote work and even moving away from their home or office location to take advantage of this new opportunity for new freedom.

In Asia, the time difference with US Eastern time is 12 hours. So, if you were to work US office hours, you would be up all night and have to sleep during the day. That can interfere with family responsibilities and it's harder on a marriage, for example, when you never see your spouse (but sometimes it's better LOL).

Ideas? Thoughts? Wisdom? Snark?

Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    In my State, unless you get an exemption or two jabs, or your industry supports working from home, you will get fired from your career, by late October.

    Doesn't affect me, but others wouldn't be happy about it.

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  • Profile picture of the author Serene Carmen
    I guess it depends on the job. I don't really see a problem, it feels like a 24hr hour day working with freelancers in different time zones (while they sleep, I work and while they sleep I work). Key is to be clear in your written communication because calls aren't as easy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

    In Asia, the time difference with US Eastern time is 12 hours. So, if you were to work US office hours, you would be up all night and have to sleep during the day.
    Depends on the nature of the work, but most freelancers shouldn't need to be in contact with their clients all the way through standard office hours. Any direct communication could be scheduled at the start or end of the working day, and then it's a case of getting on with the project in your own time in line with the agreed schedule.

    The whole point of being freelance is to work when it suits you.
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  • Let me clarify. I was using freelancers as an example and maybe that was a bad choice.

    The person overseas does have to work "in person" with clients and staff based in the US during business hours but there is flexibility in the schedule. For example, client/staff work could be done in the afternoon/evening time in the US but the con is you lose half a day while you're sleeping. I know people that do shift work face this so maybe I need to read up on how to survive and thrive with shiftwork hours.

    I was thinking overseas freelancers might face this with client meetings and some of them may have some sweet little answer that makes it all easy.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    I think you have to mark off when you're sleeping and then look at the remainder of your day as a mix of business and personal time. It's a shift in mindset more than anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    If you where in the USA and sleeping all night and then in working in an office all day or trying to work in a home office all day . How would you manage the responsibilities .

    From working late shifts in that past for years. Your responsibility to your family is not to make so much noise while you are working that it wakes people up. And how to get sleep during the day while figuring out some way to allow normal noise levels in the house from people living normal day to day lives.

    If you can set a sleeping pod up in your home for when you really need sleep but still manage to make you spouse feel they are married to you.

    Best I can do
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    I do my own thing so I sleep whenever I want.
    And I work on my various projects when I am
    in the mood, but I am diligent and I like to be
    productive.

    I have a virtual assistant in a far off time zone
    but we don't communicate that often, usually
    only on payday. I assign tasks I need her to
    do and she works independently until I assign
    another project with new details.

    Whenever I hire a freelancer I let them know
    from the start what time zone I'm in and I've
    never had a problem. My main criteria is that
    people be able to work on their own without
    asking me a bunch of questions throughout
    their project.

    I don't mind an occasional question but if I
    need to hold their hand I don't need them,
    since I can do it myself and I tell them that.
    Hiring people allows me to get more done,
    but there's not much I am not able to do
    myself.

    Whenever I have several projects going at
    once and I happen to be up during my night,
    I check to see if anyone has messaged me
    and reply timely, without stressing about it.

    I have noticed that some of my people are
    staying up during their night, or else they are
    sleeping with their computers/iphones, so I
    think that all of this lockdown, work at home,
    international time zone, freelance work is
    taking its toll on everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author zakria maqsood
    you just need to go with the flow set your routine according to your job demand !
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  • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
    Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

    Any suggestions for sleep/work schedule for today's world with hybrid and 100% remote work? Especially for those overseas or in different time zones?

    Freelancer types have faced this for a long time where they are in, let's say, Asia but mostly work for clients in the US or Europe.

    But post COVID, some people are intentionally choosing remote work and even moving away from their home or office location to take advantage of this new opportunity for new freedom.

    In Asia, the time difference with US Eastern time is 12 hours. So, if you were to work US office hours, you would be up all night and have to sleep during the day. That can interfere with family responsibilities and it's harder on a marriage, for example, when you never see your spouse (but sometimes it's better LOL).

    Ideas? Thoughts? Wisdom? Snark?

    Mark
    If you are currently in Asia than night time from 9pm onwards towards early morning till 3am is your work time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ndyama
    The main thing which we must comply when we're on a remote work is that we shouldn't neglect the previous relax/work regimes. As you got used to come home from your at 9 pm, do the same while you're on remote work. I believe that if we start to change our regimes it can seriously affects our organism and we will face such things as insomnia for example, because biological clock cycle will be disrupted. In my opinion, the general idea of remote job is to comply with such regimes which you got used to comply. Start work at 9-10 am and end at 9 pm as well as you id it before the lockdown.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dmitriann
    I am of the same opinion that the regime must be respected, regardless of where you work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rageshaper
    Well, I got used to think that we shouldn't change our sleep regime even if we had to change our daily regime, for example, we' were transefered to remote work. Try to do everything as you did before covid-19 pandemic. It's very stressful for our organism to change sleep regime, reactions can be unprdictable, starting from insomina, ending with various mental issues. I believe that remote work opens more opportunities to change our daily regime, because you can determine when you will work daily and point time for sleeping. I prefer working early in the morning and in the evening,
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