You Can Go Back In Time Once

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And change something that you consider was bad or undesirable either personal or worldwide , like assassinate Adolf Hitler before he became all powerful. No alt timelines here. The world of the present will be shaped entirely by your actions. So, of course you might have not been born, but because due to you travelling in time you were separated from whatever events ensued. so you "will" exist when you return to the present.

You may find a world or personal life very different, for better or worse. You may find no one knows you because you were never born.

So, what would you choose or try and do.

PS. you leave and come back simultaneously to exactly the same time and space it will just be you continuing on as you, one person, no complicated duplicate scenario's.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Personally I would go back to 1985. That was the year I first damaged my spine. If I had made a different choice, perhaps I would be much healthier today.


    If it was a world changing trip, I would go back and ensure Hitler was never born.
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    • Profile picture of the author diypthomeny
      My own personal story of overcoming pain and injury gave birth to IPT & DIYPT...

      I was a physical therapist and 23 years old when I bent over to pick up a tissue and herniated my first two low back discs. Initially, the compression on my nerves (from the disc herniations coupled with swelling, back spasms and a spinal deformity) was so severe that I could not even walk for three days. Additionally, due to previous sports and a fall off of a roof, I also had quite a bit of arthritis. The doctor said, my MRI looked like an 80-year old's spine.

      The bad news: Initially, I did everything "wrong" causing prolonged pain and a very slow recovery. The good news: I did everything "wrong" and I learned what not to do, so that my patients did not have to make the same mistakes.

      A forever student of life and health, I have been able to learn what really works. 26 years later I am able to run, exercise, hike, sail and work as a manual physical therapist.


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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    I would go back to just before I clicked on this thread...and not.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

      I would go back to just before I clicked on this thread...and not.
      You knew what you were getting into and yet you had to see it anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    And change something that you consider was bad or undesirable either personal or worldwide , like assassinate Adolf Hitler before he became all powerful. No alt timelines here. The world of the present will be shaped entirely by your actions. So, of course you might have not been born, but because due to you travelling in time you were separated from whatever events ensued. so you "will" exist when you return to the present.

    You may find a world or personal life very different, for better or worse. You may find no one knows you because you were never born.

    So, what would you choose or try and do.

    PS. you leave and come back simultaneously to exactly the same time and space it will just be you continuing on as you, one person, no complicated duplicate scenario's.
    I have thought about this quite a lot lately, and l wouldn't change anything.

    You murder Hitlers parents and then what, you run the chance of being caught with no records of your birth and the potential of the German police and others getting hands on a time machine.

    Or you being locked up, this is assuming that the time device malfunctioned at a critical time.

    Way to dangerous, and if one psychopath goes another takes his place.

    I would personally go back to the 80's or 1978, when a local shopping center opened its doors, and l could take a trip back to nostalga, buy some things that where available back then but not now.

    Visit the toy shop and stock up on hard to get computer games, (get a good price now in its box).

    And most importantly make sure l didn't run into myself as a 12 year old kid with my parents.

    Although as a kid back then l don't remember running into someone wearing a black outfit, hiding a smart phone?

    So no Mark l wouldnt change anything, sure l would win DIv, one in Oz lotto a few times, but not much else.

    And stock up on plastic straws and decent match boxes and such, and go back to the year 1909, and buy a can of coke.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      I have thought about this quite a lot lately, and l wouldn't change anything.

      You murder Hitlers parents and then what, you run the chance of being caught with no records of your birth and the potential of the German police and others getting hands on a time machine.

      Or you being locked up, this is assuming that the time device malfunctioned at a critical time.

      Way to dangerous, and if one psychopath goes another takes his place.

      I would personally go back to the 80's or 1978, when a local shopping center opened its doors, and l could take a trip back to nostalga, buy some things that where available back then but not now.

      Visit the toy shop and stock up on hard to get computer games, (get a good price now in its box).

      And most importantly make sure l didn't run into myself as a 12 year old kid with my parents.

      Although as a kid back then l don't remember running into someone wearing a black outfit, hiding a smart phone?

      So no Mark l wouldnt change anything, sure l would win DIv, one in Oz lotto a few times, but not much else.

      And stock up on plastic straws and decent match boxes and such, and go back to the year 1909, and buy a can of coke.
      Let me be clear. This is 100 percent not about the pitfalls of time travel or paradoxes. It is only about what "You" would attempt to change about your past or attempt to change a world event, like preventing the second world war possibly happening by murdering Hitler etc. You are self contained and outside of all of this. You would go back and be your adult self in the past with your time travel equipment intact (also outside of this) at both ends and return. When you return in this scenario, there may be no record of your birth, but you would still be there as an adult and of course find yourself in a bit of a pickle because of this.

      The consequences of your actions for your choice of attempted change would be something you have to deal with upon return. Your circumstances or the world's circumstances could be very different if you achieve your goal.

      Take Laurence. He would go back as his older self and try and prevent his younger self's circumstances that led to him damaging his spine. So, when he returns he may find that his past history had changed and was a retired Olympic long distance runner who had won several Gold Medals. So, that may well be a plus for him, or not?
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        Let me be clear. This is 100 percent not about the pitfalls of time travel or paradoxes. It is only about what "You" would attempt to change about your past or attempt to change a world event, like preventing the second world war possibly happening by murdering Hitler etc. You are self contained and outside of all of this. You would go back and be your adult self in the past with your time travel equipment intact (also outside of this) at both ends and return. When you return in this scenario, there may be no record of your birth, but you would still be there as an adult and of course find yourself in a bit of a pickle because of this.

        The consequences of your actions for your choice of attempted change would be something you have to deal with upon return. Your circumstances or the world's circumstances could be very different if you achieve your goal.

        Take Laurence. He would go back as his older self and try and prevent his younger self's circumstances that led to him damaging his spine. So, when he returns he may find that his past history had changed and was a retired Olympic long distance runner who had won several Gold Medals. So, that may well be a plus for him, or not?
        Ok, in that case l would win Oz Lotto a couple of times, and that is it.

        Hitler had 42 attempts on his life and many more that are not documented.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_Adolf_Hitler

        So if time travel is possible, (once we master creating and controlling black holes it will be) then some of the undoc, ones where probably from the future.

        But, (l know that this is outside of your question) if you create a device in order to achieve an objective, then the objective will remain regardless of your actions. Since you would not have created it in the first place unless the objective is there, (yeah, l know Temporal Mechanics).

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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Ok, in that case l would win Oz Lotto a couple of times, and that is it.

          Hitler had 42 attempts on his life and many more that are not documented.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...n_Adolf_Hitler

          So if time travel is possible, (once we master creating and controlling black holes it will be) then some of the undoc, ones where probably from the future.

          But, (l know that this is outside of your question) if you create a device in order to achieve an objective, then the objective will remain regardless of your actions. Since you would not have created it in the first place unless the objective is there, (yeah, l know Temporal Mechanics).

          Yeah, I know it's difficult not to drag all the paradoxes and mechanics into it. For example, when Laurence comes back, because he left with a back problem, when he returns would he still have it having been isolated from the change. So I would have to say that whatever change he made immediately is in effect upon his return You could go on and on refining things and making up conditions.

          It's just the question then, what would you choose to do given all these other condition's are ironed out and not a problem.
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

            Yeah, I know it's difficult not to drag all the paradoxes and mechanics into it. For example, when Laurence comes back, because he left with a back problem, when he returns would he still have it having been isolated from the change. So I would have to say that whatever change he made immediately is in effect upon his return You could go on and on refining things and making up conditions.

            It's just the question then, what would you choose to do given all these other condition's are ironed out and not a problem.
            Ok, probably this for laughs.


            But not in German, (only video available).

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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Well maybe some one here needs to go back to an early part of their life and stress the need to develop enjoyable hobbies for time when they are not working and way to fill their time post retirement
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    I'm thankful for who and where I am right now. The past is a lesson.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    I would settle for having no spinal, painful problems. Not sure I ever considered Olympics Gold. I wouldn't be currently sitting at home, in too much pain to go out and considering further surgery. Anything else would be a bonus.
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    I wish I had the TARDIS because you can move back and forth through time and space, and tweak any issues that resulted from my actions.
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    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    And change something that you consider was bad or undesirable either personal or worldwide , like assassinate Adolf Hitler before he became all powerful. No alt timelines here. The world of the present will be shaped entirely by your actions. So, of course you might have not been born, but because due to you travelling in time you were separated from whatever events ensued. so you "will" exist when you return to the present.

    You may find a world or personal life very different, for better or worse. You may find no one knows you because you were never born.

    So, what would you choose or try and do.

    PS. you leave and come back simultaneously to exactly the same time and space it will just be you continuing on as you, one person, no complicated duplicate scenario's.
    If I weren't married to Cheryl, I might go back to the 1930s, just to see what it was like. Maybe make a few investments what would pay off.

    But the further back you go, the more you change the present day world. If I went back 1,000 years, no matter what I did, the present world would be completely different, with different people.

    And there would be a 50/50 chance that I would make the world a worse place.

    But mainly, I would never do anything that would risk the history of me meeting my wife and marrying her.

    Now, if your scenario was that whatever we did in the past is already history, and won't change our present at all....that's different.

    But I couldn't go back and kill baby Hitler, because it never happened.

    But then I would go back to prehistoric times to see the dinosaurs, and how the world looked back then.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      If I weren't married to Cheryl, I might go back to the 1930s, just to see what it was like. Maybe make a few investments what would pay off.

      But the further back you go, the more you change the present day world. If I went back 1,000 years, no matter what I did, the present world would be completely different, with different people.

      And there would be a 50/50 chance that I would make the world a worse place.

      But mainly, I would never do anything that would risk the history of me meeting my wife and marrying her.

      Now, if your scenario was that whatever we did in the past is already history, and won't change our present at all....that's different.

      But I couldn't go back and kill baby Hitler, because it never happened.

      But then I would go back to prehistoric times to see the dinosaurs, and how the world looked back then.
      Sure, no one can kill Alexander the Great, since he literally created an entire race of people.

      But you wouldn't go back lets say 3 million years, and throw a rock then come back?

      Throwing a rock, isn't going to do anything, not even if it hits a butterfly. But if an ape gets in the way, hmmm.

      Killing the wrong ape, may cause Edisons family to not happen in a way that gave the person who made the electric globe commercially viable or the Phonograph, etc, Or his father may have married a loser wife, since the original wasn't there since you bopped her descendant ape 3 million years back.

      But you could certainly bop all of the dinosaurs you wanted since, we all know they are toast, unless a certain dinosaur would have eaten the wrong rat, that survived that gave an ape, a disease, groan.

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    You could probably not survive long enough in the environment millions of years ago to do any harm to the timeline.

    Any excursions into the past would most likely only give you a different perspective on what happened .
    Other than the perspective told by history. That has morphed over time.

    For a time hitler was a champion of the west as he turned around and rebuilt the economy of Germany. And hatred of Jews was common in every country historically. At the time no one cared.

    Chances are the person who goes back in time to kill hitler would be villains like those who killed arch duke ferdinand and set off ww1

    The only kind of time travel story that makes any sense is the guy who claimed to come back to get a certain early computer model to solve some issues with the computer in the future..
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Except for a couple times when I should have said "I don't'...

    I would go way back to the day my father decided to 'stop by' his business and was killed in an accident (I was 2). Would have changed my life drastically for the better....but then again might not have my sons....so....

    ...or maybe just go way back and knock that apple out of Eve's hand....


    Obviously, one trip into the past wouldn't be enough so I'll pass....


    The only kind of time travel story that makes any sense is the guy who claimed to come back to get a certain early computer model to solve some issues with the computer in the future..
    Time travel makes sense if for the 'right' reason? Oooookay.


    Referencing Hitler has become common again recently - but he could never have put his plans in action if millions of 'ordinary' people were not willing to believe in his ranting, willing to hate their neighbors who were not like them, willing to view themselves as 'superior'. Hitler is long gone - but people willing to 'believe' are still with us.
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  • Weirdest thing is, tamara is Spring Equinox 2022.

    Here she be, all a-leapeth, till the comin' autumn calls her zeal to turn to dust.

    (I realize I mismetaphorin' blossom & bunnies here, but plenty chahcklaht companies figured this out way back.)

    That is why I would wish always to figure treads afresh.

    Cyclic returns mean always we ain't nevah dead an' done.

    Stuffs spun once can always be respun -- which is why erywan here gonna sense sumthin' sweet outta the emergin' moment less'n their hearts been turned to stone.

    It is impossible flowahs grow outta concrete, but they do.

    So ... what to do when ONE TIME go back guy shows.

    This mean your next steps are placed on hold in ordah to revisit stuff you did once, but can't change?

    Momentarily, mebbe.

    It is in the natyoore of story an' reverie an' memory to exalt the glories of the past as treasures spin before you as chaff in the breeze.

    But now is the moment into which we may evah trooly pour.

    Pause. Snort History. Breathe.

    Plus also, lie down first or you gonna fall ovah.

    If'n it helps, mebbe I would wanna revisit my days as a 17th Century Viennese vampiah.

    We embroidahed our own panties back then an' it was way more customized the heck out than no drahpshippin'.

    I forget whose hair I used in them mothahs, an' as I swaknkyin' through the mall for shoes & zucchini, prolly it don't mattah.
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    Once in a while I read one of P.B.'s posts and think....


    "Yeah - what s/he said"



    (really don't know and don't want to offend).... after all, tis the season for mismetaphorin' after all...
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    I would probably end up screwing things up worse than they already are
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  • Profile picture of the author spartan14
    Well me i would go back in time and i would bet on some sports betting with results from the future and i would be rich .Its selfish but i am sincere onnwhat i will do
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    Wow at first you go wayyyyyy too deep in your first thoughts so have to reel it back in and keep it light.

    I would have taken Netflix and Bitcoin more seriously. Winklevoss twins had a great bounce-back from their FB idea.
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      Originally Posted by Profit Traveler View Post

      Wow at first you go wayyyyyy too deep in your first thoughts so have to reel it back in and keep it light.
      If I were a betting man, I think I could get pretty close to some of the things you'd do in the past that you don't want to talk about here. LOL

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        Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

        If I were a betting man, I think I could get pretty close to some of the things you'd do in the past that you don't want to talk about here. LOL

        Mark

        Thanks for the laugh. Can you imagine going back in time and telling someone YOU have to go hahaha.


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    If I could go back in time I would bring myself back to seeing my grandmother and my aunt both who passed away years ago just so I could tell them how much I still miss and love them everyday. I would tell them how I still think about them everyday and wish they were still here.
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      Originally Posted by jeanr860 View Post

      If I could go back in time I would bring myself back to seeing my grandmother and my aunt both who passed away years ago just so I could tell them how much I still miss and love them everyday. I would tell them how I still think about them everyday and wish they were still here.
      When you came back you would have this memory of them constantly telling you before they died that your older self came back to visit them to say this.

      I have this fantasy that I go back and temporarily inhabit the body of my 5 year old self to spend a few days with my parents in the early 60's and able to take a few gadgets and cross time internet connected to show them what is to come. It would be so nice to see them again. The shock of them suddenly hearing their son talk at least a little more coherently, coupled with showing them all this stuff, to go to my town center and see how it looked.

      It would be fun. However i would have to put in safeguards... Instant memory wipe for them of this event when I returned. All gadgets come with me of course. And if they got freaked out and called the police I could instantly exit and my 5 year old self returned to normal.
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        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        I have this fantasy that I go back and temporarily inhabit the body of my 5 year old self to spend a few days with my parents in the early 60's and able to take a few gadgets and cross time internet connected to show them what is to come. It would be so nice to see them again. The shock of them suddenly hearing their son talk at least a little more coherently, coupled with showing them all this stuff, to go to my town center and see how it looked.

        It would be fun. However i would have to put in safeguards... Instant memory wipe for them of this event when I returned. All gadgets come with me of course. And if they got freaked out and called the police I could instantly exit and my 5 year old self returned to normal.
        This reminds me of an episode of the Time Tunnel, where they go back a day before the Pearl Harbor bombings in Hawaii, and one of them realizes that he is 5 years old and living there.

        And sure they get a thrill out of it, but he could only emphase what to do, but he could have also given him a letter, not to go into the time tunnel, which would probably create a paradox?

        I doubt that l would want to do any body stuff, more alone the lines of a black T-shirt, cap and sunglasses watching from afar, and occasionally getting my smart phone out to check on the status of the device.
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  • I'd go back to a time where I can predict how my actions there would likely affect the present.
    • No world-saving stuff. Not even small community-saving stuff. Too unpredictable in terms of unintended consequences.
    • Not too far back in time. Too high a risk of getting significant error rate in prediction accuracy.
    • No action there that can profoundly change even my personal life. I just want to be able to predict what could happen from that point onwards with the least possible error.

    So from the top of my mind, I'll sell off my crypto positions right now. Then, I'll go to a time where BTC was less than $50 each. After buying a significant volume, I'll then keep my private keys and go back to the present.
    • That's just a few years back anyway.
    • Besides, I'll only do one thing and nothing else.
    • And I can confidently predict what I'd do with the money I earn from that action at the present time.
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    The only regret I have in life when it comes to taking investment seriously was never taking Bitcoin project seriously and invested in it on 2011 when it was just $1.

    If I could go back in time to 2011, I wouldn't have at least over $10,000 invested BTC.
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    If I'd have an opportunity to go back in time, I would travel to the times when the oil fields weren't explored yet.
    We know that one of those who could benefit from oil fields was John Rockefeller and he became extremely rich. I'd like to either go to these times and be the real witness of his actions or I want to be a right-hand man of John Rockefeller. It would be an awesome journey.
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