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During weekdays my body and brain automatically gets up a few minutes before 4:30am every week day morning.( do not even need an alarm anymore) I then get on my running clothes and at 4:45 am go running just over 4 miles each time.

Come back, get the kids ready for school, take a shower, and head off to run some routes for HEB and Favor. I get home early afternoon from work and spend the rest of the day cleaning house, reading, watching Nexflix, running errands etc..etc..

The thing is I am getting used to taking regular naps during the afternoon. Mainly because I get only about 5 to 6 hours a night seeing that I do not fall asleep til 11 pm or so.

I was wondering if this is still healthy ( even though I do not get a full 7 or 8 hours of continual sleep) since I make up lost sleep with naps during the day ??
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Our sleeping and eating patterns are dictated by society and work/school hrs.


    I found years ago that my natural sleep pattern was 5 hrs at night and a 1-2 hr afternoon nap. That was how I rested on camping trips and vacations when I did not need to keep up with someone else's schedule. Of course I could only do that on weekends till I started working online but that has been my 'sleep rhythm' for years now.


    Whatever works for you is your normal. To me 4:30 AM is not morning - it's night.
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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

    During weekdays my body and brain automatically gets up a few minutes before 4:30am every week day morning.( do not even need an alarm anymore) I then get on my running clothes and at 4:45 am go running just over 4 miles each time.

    Come back, get the kids ready for school, take a shower, and head off to run some routes for HEB and Favor. I get home early afternoon from work and spend the rest of the day cleaning house, reading, watching Nexflix, running errands etc..etc..

    The thing is I am getting used to taking regular naps during the afternoon. Mainly because I get only about 5 to 6 hours a night seeing that I do not fall asleep til 11 pm or so.

    I was wondering if this is still healthy ( even though I do not get a full 7 or 8 hours of continual sleep) since I make up lost sleep with naps during the day ??
    Afternoon siestas are common in a number of countries. Don't think their is anything bad about it. People are more awake and productive in the mornings anyway and having lunch makes you feel sleepy. Schools in some countries allow for an afternoon siesta and adjust their hours accordingly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    The idea that a solid seven or eight hours of sleep is normal only came about since the invention of electric light. Before that - at least in Europe - people would go to bed shortly after dark and get up a few hours later for a snack or some recreation, then return to their beds. So whatever works for you is probably fine.

    But I agree with Kay. 4.30 AM is still yesterday.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post


      But I agree with Kay. 4.30 AM is still yesterday.
      It's definitely not for everyone. I thought the same thing myself but I find it mentally exhilarating to get up at that time to exercise. Never would have dreamed of doing that even a year ago
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        It's definitely not for everyone. I thought the same thing myself but I find it mentally exhilarating to get up at that time to exercise. Never would have dreamed of doing that even a year ago
        Well, it's about the time I'll likely be going to bed after watching the Superbowl on Sunday.
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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          Well, it's about the time I'll likely be going to bed after watching the Superbowl on Sunday.
          Over here, in the US, they put it on at a much more civilized hour.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by discrat View Post

        It's definitely not for everyone. I thought the same thing myself but I find it mentally exhilarating to get up at that time to exercise. Never would have dreamed of doing that even a year ago
        There is something in the air just before dawn. The air is crisper...it feels more pure.

        I base that on the 5 times I've ever been able to roll out of bed that early because I had to drive to the airport.


        The fact that you willingly get up that early without a gun to your head.....means you're more ambitious than I am.
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          There is something in the air just before dawn. The air is Crispy Cr...it feels more pure.

          I base that on the 5 times I've ever been able to rolling out of bed that early because I had to drive to the airport.

          The fact that you willingly get up that early without a gun to your head.....means you're more ambitious than I am.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    If your body is waking up with out an alarm. I would say it is fine. If there was a problem your body would rebel and demand more sleep.

    This is my way of looking at it but don't look at the naps as making up for lost sleep you are able to spread out the rest periods when your body needs them. If it was unhealthy you're body would let you know. After the middle thirties the body starts to not let you get away with stuff for long without some obvious health issue developing..

    If over time you are getting healthy then the sleep pattern is fine . For you.

    On another note do you have to eat anything before the run . Or does that depend on what you eat and how many adult beverages you have the night before.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      On another note do you have to eat anything before the run . Or does that depend on what you eat and how many adult beverages you have the night before.
      No, I never eat before I run. Usually will not eat anything till 10 or 11 am later that day
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      • Profile picture of the author discrat
        Interesting enough I slept in today til 9:30 am as it is my only rest day from exercise. Probably got about 9 hours of sleep. Feel heavenly after it
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    I've been working on the "secret" to all this for myself. I do my best early in the morning like 4:00 AM but that means I start winding down pretty early like 8:00 PM or so.

    Lately, due to reasons (see below), I haven't been setting an alarm clock and find that many times I wind up sleeping 9 hours or a bit more. But that feels good. Then I beat up on myself for almost kind or getting old(er) and remembering when 4-5-6 hours was more than enough.

    Depending on the day I take naps. But the key for me is to keep them to either about 30 minutes or less or 1 1/2 hours or more. It has to do with our sleep cycles. If you sleep, let's say 50 minutes, you'll feel worse than if you got up at 30 minutes.

    I bet you'd find you got to bed earlier if you gave up or cut down on the naps. It might take a little bit to get accustomed to changes.

    And I've found out the HARD (did I mention HARD) way that every time work or whatever gets more important than sleep, life throws me a curve ball as if to say, "you will NOT go sleep deprived! Now, we can do this the hard way or the easy way." Spoiler alert: life always wins! The hard way hurts and the hospital bills add up.

    We live in Asia and it's common to rest for a couple hours starting at noon, so it's not just Mexico. I always thought it was just them until I moved here.

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      I've been working on the "secret" to all this for myself. I do my best early in the morning like 4:00 AM but that means I start winding down pretty early like 8:00 PM or so.
      Welcome to the club, Mark

      Yeah, I start winding down around 9pm. But Iam one of those sleepers who rarely falls asleep right away. Sometimes it can take an hour or more. Have always been that way
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Mark have you been in Asia long enough to start wearing long pants and shirts on sunny days too cover your skin instead of trying to use sunblock every few hours during the day.

    The break mid day is part of cultures where people work outside in the sun and hot weather and not in door with air conditioning. And instead of drinking bottled water all the time the hydration comes from fresh fruits or soups stews curry or noodles with broth. Flavored with spices instead of salt sugar and fat
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
      Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

      Mark have you been in Asia long enough to start wearing long pants and shirts on sunny days too cover your skin instead of trying to use sunblock every few hours during the day.
      No, that isn't a problem. This soft, pasty, Claude-like skin needs all the sun it can get.

      I actually don't understand it. It can be 100 degrees and 80% humidity and they are all wearing jackets and arm coverings while walking around with an umbrella (no rain in sight).

      Mark
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      • Profile picture of the author Odahh
        Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

        No, that isn't a problem. This soft, pasty, Claude-like skin needs all the sun it can get.

        I actually don't understand it. It can be 100 degrees and 80% humidity and they are all wearing jackets and arm coverings while walking around with an umbrella (no rain in sight).

        Mark
        Poor people who work in the fields or on farms have darker skin. The lighter a person skin the more attractive they are considered.

        It's common in much of the world. And it was even that way before Europeans where everywhere.

        It was partly explained to me by my second Filipino girlfriend while I was in the Philippines ten years ago.
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        • Profile picture of the author discrat
          Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

          Poor people who work in the fields or on farms have darker skin. The lighter a person skin the more attractive they are considered.

          It's common in much of the world. ago.
          II'll play devils advocate and disagree with what you say as far as being common in much of the World., At least not down here in south Texas and probably much of the US. The fact is kids (and adults) see the darker color races as exotic and overall more attractive and desirable. It's just the way the younger generation has gravitated towards.
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by discrat View Post

            II'll play devils advocate and disagree with what you say as far as being common in much of the World., At least not down here in south Texas and probably much of the US. The fact is kids (and adults) see the darker color races as exotic and overall more attractive and desirable. It's just the way the younger generation has gravitated towards.

            Beauty standards around the world tend to favor lighter skin. Skin bleaching is an8 billion dollar a year industry world wide. Just do a search for why people bleach their skin.

            And it's not uncommon in the USA for women with darker skin to bleach their skin.

            Outside the USA In much of the world if you tell people to show up at 8 pm you should feel loved if they show up by 9 pm.

            Mark may be dealing with that too.
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  • Profile picture of the author TobiMDD
    Originally Posted by discrat View Post

    I was wondering if this is still healthy ( even though I do not get a full 7 or 8 hours of continual sleep) since I make up lost sleep with naps during the day ??

    My question to this would be...Do you feel healthy? If yes then I guess you have no reason to be worried
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    This almost sounds like it's turning racist/anti-Asian. Odahh your perceptions are yours but that doesn't mean you are right. Everyone's experiences are different. Some of my family, for example, spend tons of money on getting darker and are a little bit jealous of my wife who has a natural all over "tan".

    Many Asians want to be lighter and spend tons of money and effort to try and achieve that while at the same time many of my friends think I'm too white. So, instead of generalizations, which turn out to be false/racist/degrading many times, I think we can agree that many/most people all over the world want things they don't have and they are always looking for secrets and ways to look better according to their culture's norms.

    Mark

    PS Your perception of how people respect time is another generalization and is NOT true in my experience for most of the people I know. There are those that don't respect other's time in every culture/country but again it has nothing to do with a particular place. I know many Americans that don't respect my time too.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    It's not my perception or my belief just do a quick search. It's not that hard to find.
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