What a night...and day

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about midnight last night, I decided to check my business checking account to see if the Amazon check had arrived.

We had close to $50,000 in that account...mostly to pay property taxes, and other bills that were going to come out of the account automatically.

We were $601 overdrawn.

It took me a minute to understand that this was what I was seeing. Yup, 10 withdrawals the same day for about $4800 each. All the same amount. And they all went to Paypal.

It was midnight, and Cheryl was asleep. I decide to not wake her, as both the bank and Paypal were close for phone calls.

I checked my Paypal account. Yup, it was all just sitting there.

No sleep for Claude last night. A massive headache last night and today.

This morning, I explained to a panicky Cheryl what had happened, and assured her that the money was still in the Paypal account.

It was almost impossible to explain it all to her. So I told her I'd just take care of it this morning.

Four calls to different Paypal Reps. One visit to the bank. We deposited plenty in the bank to cover the next few days....

And I spend a few hours on the phone with three reps at Paypal (The last one was more aware of what had happened)

Apparently, someone had hacked my Paypal account by slowly changing my password, address, phone number, and security question answers.

And today, they tried to take the money out of Paypal, and it didn't go through...

But I had a heck of a time trying to convince Paypal that I was me...since most of my information had been changed already.

Had I not checked my account last night, the money could have vanished.

Finally, I got access to my account, and transferred the money to the bank.

And...changed all my passwords (Bank, Paypal, e-mail service) to a million character ream of gibberish.

I started this morning at 8AM....and kept at it until just before 3PM.

I also found out that at least a dozen different e-mail addresses and phone numbers...none of which were mine...were used to try to take our money.

What a day. Maybe tonight we'll get some sleep.
  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


    But I had a heck of a time trying to convince Paypal that I was me...since most of my information had been changed already.

    Had I not checked my account last night, the money could have vanished.


    I started this morning at 8AM....and kept at it until just before 3PM.

    What a day. Maybe tonight we'll get some sleep.
    Sorry to see that you had to waste a full day, trying to straighten everything out. With everything being chatbots or customer reps that can make a decision. I can only imagine your anger dealing with that crap. That is a good warning for others here to pay attention. Did Paypal at least appologize at the end of the day?

    Also, sleep tight, you don't need that stress in your life!
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    • Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

      Sorry to see that you had to waste a full day, trying to straighten everything out. With everything being chatbots or customer reps that can make a decision. I can only imagine your anger dealing with that crap. That is a good warning for others here to pay attention. Did Paypal at least apologize at the end of the day?

      Also, sleep tight, you don't need that stress in your life!
      No. But I wasn't looking for an apology.

      The reps were all very polite and nice...but the first three I talked to, kept making mistakes as to what was happening. And they would open a service ticket, and the company rep (the actual tech I didn't get to talk to), would misunderstand what happened, and then I'd get an e-mail saying they couldn't find a fraudulent charge.

      Finally, the fourth rep I called had some experience, and knew what happened. And a short time later, I got on the site, transferred the funds, and was relieved.

      The problem with the first three reps was that they didn't know how to release the funds. A hold had been put on the account, because of the suspicious activity (the large series of charges made in one day).

      Th thought didn't occur to me that I would just lose the money. I've had a few instances like this before....a hacked account, and money being put on hold, because someone was trying to get to it.


      I didn't expect an apology from Paypal, because they did nothing wrong. In fact, they prevented my money from disappearing. I never get angry for being inconvenienced at a bank for protecting my money...even if it's from me.

      And the bank payed the checks written for several days, , even after I had no money in the account. And no insufficient funds charges either. A phone call alerting me would have been nice though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I feel foryou - that can be a real mess to unravel.

    It is interesting the scammers went through paypal to get to your bank acct - certainly gives your stomach a ten story drop when you see so much money 'gone'. Good thing you checked your acct when you did.

    My bank and credit union have 'alerts' set so I'm notified by email and phone text immediately of any transaction over $500 or whatever amount I set. I've stopped two scam attempts due to the alerts - on accts I don't check all that regularly.
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    • Profile picture of the author discrat
      Wow Claude so sorry this happened to you. It really sucks going through such a drastic ruse to get hold of so much money.


      Glad everything seems like it will be rectified
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    As Kay said, it's a good idea to have alerts when there's a deposit or withdrawal.

    My bank has that...I believe you need to download the app from your bank to use it?

    Also, another good thing (if your bank has it) is the ability to create virtual cards to use whenever you want.

    If I'm buying something online (which I seldom do) I can create a virtual card and use it. I can then cancel the virtual card anytime I want and it can't be charged. Basically what it does is creates a new card number, expiration date, CCV, etc. It's virtually a throwaway card.

    Makes it easy to stop those sneaky sellers that want to continue to charge you month after month. Prevents a lot of headaches.

    Glad you got it taken care of.
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  • Claude, that's awful. I'm glad that at least the money is in PayPal.

    But you *may* have a heck of a time in retrieving that money. I mean they may require some security checks to fully prove it's you. You may have to provide all kinds of information, like light bills sent in your name to your address on file with PP. I hope not because I've heard those can take a lot of time, PP may lockdown your $ for up to 6 months, etc. I'm just bringing this up based on previous stories told here and elsewhere about PP.

    Also, I don't know how you handle your passwords, but I use and trust https://www. bitwarden.com to handle mine. They are highly recommended by legit computer mags and sites. Also, all their programming code is open source, so they have outside people checking it for safety. Every site I have an account on has a different password and I have no clue what any of them are. But I know the master password (better not forget that one or you are screwed) and the software keeps track of it. I only bring this recommendation up because you said you changed a bunch of passwords to gobbledygook.

    I hope you don't have any trouble getting it all straightened out. Be careful out there.

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    • Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      Claude, that's awful. I'm glad that at least the money is in PayPal.

      But you *may* have a heck of a time in retrieving that money. I mean they may require some security checks to fully prove it's you. You may have to provide all kinds of information, like light bills sent in your name to your address on file with PP. I hope not because I've heard those can take a lot of time, PP may lockdown your $ for up to 6 months, etc. I'm just bringing this up based on previous stories told here and elsewhere about PP.

      Yup. They required that I send them a photo of my drivers license. That was fun. I have a land line, and no cell phone. I had to drive to a local printer to have them send the e-Mail with my photo ID. From 8AM till about 3PM, it was running around and phone calls.

      But I got the money transferred back into my bank, and there won't be any bank charges for the overdrafts.

      Weirdly, this evening, I felt pretty good...like when you have a narrow escape from death, and your nerves calm.

      The guy that really helped me told me he had been with Paypal for several years, and had never seen this exact attempt before, slowly trying to take over someone's account by transferring money into Paypal, and then trying to transfer it back out.

      On a side note, when I first learned what had happened (late last night), I thought I may be having a heart attack. It was a lot of money, and I normsally assume the worst.

      My thought all night was "What if I die before tomorrow? Cheryl will have no idea where the money went, who to contact, or how to get it back."

      That was actually my only concern. I knew it would be corrected.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Yup. They required that I send them a photo of my drivers license. That was fun. I have a land line, and no cell phone. I had to drive to a local printer to have them send the e-Mail with my photo ID. From 8AM till about 3PM, it was running around and phone calls.

        But I got the money transferred back into my bank, and there won't be any bank charges for the overdrafts.

        Weirdly, this evening, I felt pretty good...like when you have a narrow escape from death, and your nerves calm.
        Yep sorry to hear about that Claude, never fun, reminds me of that scammer l dealt with years ago which was a massive financial blow at the time but water off a ducks back now.

        Good you don't have a smart phone, one of those, especially the ones connected to a smart watch is a hackers dream.

        If l get a smart phone, (my current one really isn't) l would never hook up my bank or Paypal to it, too dangerous.

        PayPal are actually really good with things like this, about a month ago l decided to transfer my money from one trading account and deposit into another mainly using PayPal, (they allow PP for the second deposit).

        And this was about 4k US, (or around $6,500 AU).

        So l transferred, using Google to calculate AU to US, (new trading account is in US currency) and initiated believing all is well and it should show in a day or so.

        And the next day l checked and it was there in total, so l could trade immediately. But l also checked my bank account and it was still there???

        I went to my bank and they told me no transfer took place, but also showed me that their currency conversion ratio was different to what Google told me, (the one l used).

        So l checked PayPal and found that it didn't process as there wasn't enough in savings to cover it, (PayPal usually goes for my credit card if funds were insufficient but in this case they would only accept saving account).

        So PayPal basically honored the $6,500!

        Sure they also mentioned something about getting dept collectors onto me if l didn't pay them back immediately, (which l did) but yeah l was a nice gesture especially with those sums.

        I would take it easy this weekend, go and see a movie, or go to a bar and have a Scotch and Rocks if you have to, but chill.

        And keep your eye on your cats ,lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Yep sorry to hear about that Claude, never fun, reminds me of that scammer l dealt with years ago which was a massive financial blow at the time but water off a ducks back now.

          Good you don't have a smart phone, one of those, especially the ones connected to a smart watch is a hackers dream.

          If l get a smart phone, (my current one really isn't) l would never hook up my bank or Paypal to it, too dangerous.

          PayPal are actually really good with things like this, about a month ago l decided to transfer my money from one trading account and deposit into another mainly using PayPal, (they allow PP for the second deposit).

          And this was about 4k US, (or around $6,500 AU).

          So l transferred, using Google to calculate AU to US, (new trading account is in US currency) and initiated believing all is well and it should show in a day or so.

          And the next day l checked and it was there in total, so l could trade immediately. But l also checked my bank account and it was still there???

          I went to my bank and they told me no transfer took place, but also showed me that their currency conversion ratio was different to what Google told me, (the one l used).

          So l checked PayPal and found that it didn't process as there wasn't enough in savings to cover it, (PayPal usually goes for my credit card if funds were insufficient but in this case they would only accept saving account).

          So PayPal basically honored the $6,500!

          Sure they also mentioned something about getting dept collectors onto me if l didn't pay them back immediately, (which l did) but yeah l was a nice gesture especially with those sums.

          I would take it easy this weekend, go and see a movie, or go to a bar and have a Scotch and Rocks if you have to, but chill.

          And keep your eye on your cats ,lol.
          So what gives, not a single typo and a well written piece. Who hijacked your account, lol
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

            So what gives, not a single typo and a well written piece. Who hijacked your account, lol
            Had a good week, (all of the traffic lights were green, all my ducks lined up, didn't run into any black cats, etc).

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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I have a land line, and no cell phone. I had to drive to a local printer to have them send the e-Mail with my photo ID. From 8AM till about 3PM, it was running around and phone calls.
        I don't remember the last time I used a land line - just about everyone I know uses a mobile (cell phone). But my bank keeps pestering me to download their mobile app, boasting that it would allow me to pay out or move money on the go with just a single tap. Like that's a selling point.

        Glad you got it sorted. Enjoy your weekend.
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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          I don't remember the last time I used a land line - just about everyone I know uses a mobile (cell phone). But my bank keeps pestering me to download their mobile app, boasting that it would allow me to pay out or move money on the go with just a single tap. Like that's a selling point.

          Glad you got it sorted. Enjoy your weekend.
          Are they implying that you actually feel the need to leave home on occasion? What a ridiculous concept. At our age, leaving home is just for doctors visits and buying food.
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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    That was quite a chunk of savings that could have vanished. The scammer or should I say: "thief" was too greedy for his own boots. He might have got away with it if he had made one $4,800.00 withdrawal. To make 10 in one day was plain stupid. Over 40k, close to fifty, wow.

    Mind you, even so, it must have been a bit odd that money was sent to Paypal, only to be moved out again within 24 hours (or at least attempted to do). What's the point, could have gone straight from your bank account to his! And there's another thing, Paypal would know where it was transferred, to a bank account, so was this guy or girl going to close it and transfer the money out as soon as it was there? Perhaps he opened it under a false id. He obviously had tried this before so was probably clued up.

    I check my nest-egg just about every day, so far so good and touch wood. As you say, not yours or anyone's fault but I think the bank should have flagged this unusual activity and informed you. Still, I bet it was traumatic for you, not to mention your manager, Cheryl.

    Glad all turned out well in the end.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    Well, they do say hackers prey on the elderly...



    Glad to see you got your money back.
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    • [QUOTE=Dan Riffle;11760338]Well, they do say hackers prey on the elderly...
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      Currency fluctuates but hearts should nevah sink.

      So I would punch her in the face, grab my bra back, tear her panties off, an' spraypaint her folks' house in blood.

      (K so revenge is a dish best served hyperboleed. My peccadillo, naht a universal truth nor nuthin'. Jus' sayin'.)
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        Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post



        Thing is, what happens aftah yr apartment been raided an' sum gal shows in the mall in OBVS YR BRA?

        Currency fluctuates but hearts should nevah sink.

        So I would punch her in the face, grab my bra back, tear her panties off...
        Would like to see this at the local mall...

        this could take marketing to a whole new level.
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          Would like to see this at the local mall...

          this could take marketing to a whole new level.
          So much for hypothesizin'.

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  • Profile picture of the author NicheNirvana
    I'm surprised, knowing how bad Paypal customer support can be, that you were able to resolve this so "easily" as I've heard and witnessed too many horror stories with Paypal over the years.

    It's a horrible situation and glad you seem to have it fixed, hope it all works out.
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    • Originally Posted by NicheNirvana View Post

      I'm surprised, knowing how bad Paypal customer support can be, that you were able to resolve this so "easily" as I've heard and witnessed too many horror stories with Paypal over the years.

      It's a horrible situation and glad you seem to have it fixed, hope it all works out.
      I hear that quite a lot about just about every company.

      But I've never had anything but excellent customer service from any company I've ever dealt with.

      When I used to have a store, and we had plenty of suppliers, I would hear other retailers complain about how poorly they were treated by their suppliers. And yet I never experienced that at all.

      I finally came to the conclusion that it was just a better story if the customer complained...and played the victim.

      the important thing is that we aren't at fault, we blame someone else for our trouble...especially if it's a company....and be the victim of injustice.

      It's never us...it's them.
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  • Profile picture of the author NicheNirvana
    Well maybe, but Paypal is notorious for locking and closing accounts, freezing money, and suspending people who've been doing business with them for years without notice or warning.

    I've thankfully only had temporary locks where once ID was provided and everything reverified my account was opened again without issue but heard too many stories of it going the other way for there not to be some truth in it.
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    • Originally Posted by NicheNirvana View Post

      Well maybe, but Paypal is notorious for locking and closing accounts, freezing money, and suspending people who've been doing business with them for years without notice or warning.

      I've thankfully only had temporary locks where once ID was provided and everything reverified my account was opened again without issue but heard too many stories of it going the other way for there not to be some truth in it.
      You have to understand human nature. We almost all have a need to tell stories...we also have the need to be seen in the best light.

      I used to finance high end vacuum cleaner sales, and other instalment contracts.

      Occasionally, I would have to visit the customer. Always...always, I would get a story about how they were treated unfairly by "The company".

      Of course, the company consisted of me. So I knew these stories were nonsense.

      But why would Paypal close someone's account? Always, because the person did something to warrant that closing.

      There are a lot of people that used Paypal for get paid online. I do too.

      I've known perhaps a few hundred businesspeople who have had their financing pulled, their Paypal accounts closed, or their bank account closed.

      After I hear their tale of woe, I found out what they did. Always always, it's something they did to fully warrant that account being closed. And even after they tell me what they did...it's still that they were treated unfairly, not that they caused it to happen.

      People love to tell stories. And in those stories, they are nearly always either the hero or the victim...never the cause of harm...never the one in the wrong.

      You'll never hear "I charged the customer twice, and then the customer complained to Paypal, and I lost my account....because it was the fifth time in a month."

      That doesn't make a good story. That's why all the stories make them sound like victims.

      When we hear these stories, we never get to hear the company's side of it. And my guess is that it's going to be a different story....one full of dates, customer complaints, and receipts.

      When you hear about someone having their Paypal account frozen or closed...my guess is that the next company they use will also treat them unfairly...just like the companies before.

      Companies don't want to lose the business of good customers. Customer service is designed to solve customer complaints and solve problems, not cost the company money.

      So when someone loses their account, it's because they have done something bad, and the company has to protect itself. And if it's really a mistake, the problem is corrected.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I've known perhaps a few hundred businesspeople who have had their financing pulled, their Paypal accounts closed, or their bank account closed.

        After I hear their tale of woe, I found out what they did. Always always, it's something they did to fully warrant that account being closed. And even after they tell me what they did...it's still that they were treated unfairly, not that they caused it to happen.

        So when someone loses their account, it's because they have done something bad, and the company has to protect itself. And if it's really a mistake, the problem is corrected.
        True, l stayed away from eToro, even though they have an office in Australia and are certified to the hilt with compliance with Australian law but still have tons of people garbage them on certain sites.

        Most seem to bitch and moan about not being able to withdrawal large sums without further certification, and go on about "terrible, crooks and steer clear" (l withdrawal a few hundred recently with zero hassles).

        So why?

        One person l saw on YouTube said it best, the platform is very user friendly and has a minimalist feel to it so a lot of their customers go there relax, margin their trades and take big risks!

        Then lose most if not all of their money and go and bitch about it.

        They feel a bit happier about their 5k loss since they held SPY for too long, by having a bitch/moan about it online.

        I know someone who did just that, he started out with 13k years ago and mainly blew it all with binary options, (very risky) then after saving up another 1k and losing that then just bitched and moaned to the trading channel,...so much so most put him on ignore.

        I did well last week and blew some of it this, but does that mean l don't like eToro anymore, hell no, they are a great platform just as long as you don't treat stocks like buying candy, (unfortunately a lot there probably do).

        Holding stocks is like holding a devil by the tail, and if you hold him the right way you can do well, but slip up and you will get burned.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by NicheNirvana View Post

      Well maybe, but Paypal is notorious for locking and closing accounts, freezing money, and suspending people who've been doing business with them for years without notice or warning.

      I've thankfully only had temporary locks where once ID was provided and everything reverified my account was opened again without issue but heard too many stories of it going the other way for there not to be some truth in it.
      Paypal used to be like this more in the past but they have moved more into conventional banking and practices. Having said that they have to be stricter being exclusively online.
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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    I just got notification that there were 5 illicit transactions on my credit card (suspicious activity) attempted today. None of which I of course knew about. The card was cancelled and I lost no money. Fraud is everywhere. I was able to identify them and make the claim in my online banking.
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    • Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

      I just got notification that there were 5 illicit transactions on my credit card (suspicious activity) attempted today. None of which I of course knew about. The card was cancelled and I lost no money. Fraud is everywhere. I was able to identify them and make the claim in my online banking.
      I've had several internet service people tell me that your Username and Password are key.

      Make each one long, complicated, and include Capitals, numbers and symbols. My new passwords are about 20 figures that are indecipherable.

      That's how they usually get into your account. That, or by tricking you to give your information with forged e-mails.

      One thing to remember, thieves don't like a challenge. They go after easy pickings. Just don't make it easy.
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      • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I've had several internet service people tell me that your Username and Password are key.

        Make each one long, complicated, and include Capitals, numbers and symbols. My new passwords are about 20 figures that are indecipherable.

        That's how they usually get into your account. That, or by tricking you to give your information with forged e-mails.

        One thing to remember, thieves don't like a challenge. They go after easy pickings. Just don't make it easy.
        I was going over my transactions for the past week. These were Kroger last Sunday, a garage and a restaurant, same day, but I insert the card and remove it. Then Uber and a doctors office a couple of days ago. That's it. Amazon purchases but are automatic with card on file. I use a VPN.

        Doctors rip you off in other ways. No pin number of course with CC. I easily spot the emails, so no clue really. The only thing possibly that the card got scanned in my hand or wallet. I had a lot more trouble with debit cards in the past. Credit cards, well this is a first.
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        • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
          Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post


          . I easily spot the emails, so no clue really. The only thing possibly that the card got scanned in my hand or wallet. .
          Do you have an RFID-blocking wallet? If not, that might be the way they got your information.
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          • Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

            Do you have an RFID-blocking wallet? If not, that might be the way they got your information.
            Yeah, I used credit card sleeves that block scanning. Cheap protection.
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            • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
              Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

              Yeah, I used credit card sleeves that block scanning. Cheap protection.
              CC Condoms. I looked at the Ridge Wallet, nice but very expensive, my wallet has a coin pouch. For some reason I still cannot get past having that feature. Always like a few coins. However, it always weakens over time and they end up falling out. I suppose a few CC sleeves would be a good idea, you can get them on Amazon. Do you still carry cash notes around with you. I do, but only very occasionally.

              Quite a few things to re-instate my card on when I get the new one, always a pain, plus my bank zeroed out my previous CC past transactions for now, so not 100 percent sure who I'm paying with it.
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                CC Condoms. I looked at the Ridge Wallet, nice but very expensive, my wallet has a coin pouch. For some reason I still cannot get past having that feature. Always like a few coins. However, it always weakens over time and they end up falling out. I suppose a few CC sleeves would be a good idea, you can get them on Amazon. Do you still carry cash notes around with you. I do, but only very occasionally.

                Quite a few things to re-instate my card on when I get the new one, always a pain, plus my bank zeroed out my previous CC past transactions for now, so not 100 percent sure who I'm paying with it.
                You old men and your coin purses...

                I've had a Ridge wallet. It's forever in a drawer to never be used again. Nice form, horrible function. Getting the cards out was a pain in the ass.

                I much prefer my Ekster Parliament wallet. Looks great, functions well, and is RFID-blocking. Alas, no geriatric coin purse. Here's a non-affiliate link if you want to take a look: https://www.ekster.com/products/parliament

                You could always put coins in your pocket.
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                • Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                  You old men and your coin purses...

                  I've had a Ridge wallet. It's forever in a drawer to never be used again. Nice form, horrible function. Getting the cards out was a pain in the ass.
                  My new password is DanRiffleismyfriend.

                  I use it, knowing that nobody on Earth has ever used those words in a sentence.
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                  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                    My new password is DanRiffleismyfriend.

                    I use it, knowing that nobody on Earth has ever used those words in a sentence.
                    I notice their are a couple of upper case letters in your password. But of course, as with Dan, their is a lot more Lower Case.
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                • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                  You old men and your coin purses...

                  I've had a Ridge wallet. It's forever in a drawer to never be used again. Nice form, horrible function. Getting the cards out was a pain in the ass.

                  I much prefer my Ekster Parliament wallet. Looks great, functions well, and is RFID-blocking. Alas, no geriatric coin purse. Here's a non-affiliate link if you want to take a look: https://www.ekster.com/products/parliament

                  You could always put coins in your pocket.
                  $72.00 for a wallet? Those slip covers are only a few bucks each. Coin pouch wallets are difficult to come by in the US.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

                    $72.00 for a wallet?
                    Well, it *is* 2023. Things cost money.
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                    • Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                      Well, it *is* 2023. Things cost money.
                      Things are really pretty cheap. You know what costs real money? Stuff.
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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

                        Things are really pretty cheap. You know what costs real money? Stuff.
                        Had a new scam today where someone SMS'ed me and said that $299 was going to be withdrawn from PayPal and l need to press "1" to stop it or "2" to talk to a representative.

                        Naturally l deleted that crap, and checked my PP account when l got home, with no $299 in sight.

                        So some scared by these cockroaches would ring up one and they of course would ask for your login and PP email, then you would find the next day your linked accounts maxed out.

                        Although it would probably go the same way as what Claude went through, all iffy transactions put on hold.

                        But yea theses roaches are everywhere, stay vigilant.

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    Sorry to hear about the ordeal you went through Claude! That's no small amount of money. What a headache, glad you were finally able to get it sorted out without having any of it stolen.

    I wonder how they were able to get your information to hack your account. Scary stuff!
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    My first casualty happened this morning, You-Tube TV, 85 base channels plus three movie networks for just over $100.00 per month, cancelled card of course got declined. I took the opportunity to cancel it all anyway, I barely watch it.

    I said as a comment, so many channels doing daily binge watches. Movie selection is awful. I have Pluto TV, Local Now, Nvidia Shields own selection and Plex TV, Not to mention Kodi, all free, more than 300 channels to watch. Not to mention You-tube which I watch the most. Thinking of paying $11.99 a month so I can remove the ad's.
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      Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

      My first casualty happened this morning, You-Tube TV, 85 base channels plus three movie networks for just over $100.00 per month, cancelled card of course got declined. I took the opportunity to cancel it all anyway, I barely watch it.

      I said as a comment, so many channels doing daily binge watches. Movie selection is awful. I have Pluto TV, Local Now, Nvidia Shields own selection and Plex TV, Not to mention Kodi, all free, more than 300 channels to watch. Not to mention You-tube which I watch the most. Thinking of paying $11.99 a month so I can remove the ad's.

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  • Call Moi Ms Coincidentwaahl nor'n nuthin', but here's what happened in the mall jus' yestahday ...

    I been shoppin', an I descendin' 'pon the elevatah to the exit.

    Suddenly Balestra SmoochyCentral alerts me ... gal, you ain't gaht no panties on!

    Then I remembah ... the Horse Abuse Charity guy ... who tried to sign me up for $10 a month but hey I said you could do much bettah without this lame broshoore!

    Huh!

    No wondah the broshoore was so puke-suctional!

    Entire operation was clearly a sophisticated thievin' scam -- an' while I misdirected outta my usual pernickety sensibilities, THE FKR RAN OFF WITH MY PANTIES!

    Hey, yeah, but I read the detective fiction, see.

    An' I know the culprit always returns to the scene of the crime.

    Plus also, till'n they discovahed to be no culprit, THEY STILL DOWIN' IT.

    So I speed back up the escalatah, blend of Black Widow, ragin' Hulk mindset, an' zero concern my fellow ridahs below gaht eyeballs on my forward motion nexus areah squishyin' around all ovah.

    Then I see the guy ... fleein' toward the exit like Santa gone evil ... big sack ovah his back fulla wallets, purses, wristwatches -- an' my favo heart print lacies!

    Tellya, this ain't no moment to rely on divine intervention, Sooperwhatevah, or even the essentyool rules of modesty governin' hooman conduct.

    So I in pursoot now.

    Pant along with Moi as I corner the guy next to Baptasm Takeouts aftah he abandoned his booty sack in sum poor gal's strollah an' nearly suffocated 0.00000000 sumthin' percent of our fyooture hopes half to death.

    "Gimme my panties, you fiend!"

    He spits back. "I'm not a fiend -- I'm a pervert. How dare you devalue my core values with your witless behavioural framing?"

    Dunno 'bout you guys, but sumtimes there good reason to explore opportoonities for myootyool discourse, an' othah times you gotta go direct for SMACK 'EM IN THE ****IN' CHOPS.

    Yeah, so as the cops cuffin' the guy an' I am tryin' to renegotiate muh panties up muh legs via muh Mall Heels without eithah trippin' ovah or seemin' indecent, the strollah Mom says, "next time you wanna play all heroic, don't forget the innocent bystanders, you goddam bitch. My daughter nearly DIED."

    Proof positive, I guess, that our myootyool interactions are forevah flooid.
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