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I am an old member of this forum and it feels great to write a post again. I would like to start a philosophical conversation.

I believe that there is only one purpose in life, and that is to ascend. Whether it be personal life, or professional life, moving 'up' is all there is. Personal life is clear cut, and the ascension is always clean.

But when it comes to work, things are a little murky. Money earned is not an authentic parameter of real value. There are problems being created by industry, and we don't really counter it, as we work our way up.

What harm do you think the internet marketing, and startup industry has created, through the back door of our lives? I think the internet is so brilliant that we will not realize what harm it might be causing. Will be good to think it over, and destroy whats in the way for for future generations.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Why would you want to destroy something that makes life - and work - easier? I can sit comfortably at home and earn a living...I can avoid crowds of people...no rush hours on the highway.


    I can choose to make a little money or more money - depending on how hard, smart and long I'm willing to work.



    Not a lot of philosophers left on the Warrior Forum these days. I do agree money is not an authentic parameter of true value - I think everyone figures that out. Money is a means to an end - whether you want to survive or thrive, live big or live small.



    Personal life is clear cut, and the ascension is always clean.

    I see it as reversed - I can control business to an extent - but personal life is a crap shoot. Every time I think I'm 'ascending' I end up blown sideways...so...
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    • Profile picture of the author Zoheb M
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Why would you want to destroy something that makes life - and work - easier? I can sit comfortably at home and earn a living...I can avoid crowds of people...no rush hours on the highway.
      I edited my post, for more clarity. I was not talking about IM itself. I think the internet is the greatest thing ever, and it is easy for us not to realise the harm it might be causing society long haul. Just something to discuss over.
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    • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Not a lot of philosophers left on the Warrior Forum these days.
      You kiddin'?

      Seems to Moi there no shortage of nowan throwin' out all kindsa mind-bendin' schwango.

      (I would try this musself more often, but I gaht prahblems attachin' the necessary helmit.)

      Meantimes, to the OP, I would say this:

      As a Sagittarian rompmaiden, natchrlly I figure ASCENT gaht big time potential.

      But UP is jus' one dimension, an' if'n you focus solely here, you gonna end up like Stretcho from the Fantastic Four.

      Depth & breadth of vision/aspirayshwaahn/outcomes are also supah important if'n you growin' yr bubble of practical wisdom an' expectin' a functionally unpoppable sphere of an eternally expandin' naytyoore..

      Phrased for the layperson: yeah, yeah, sumtimes you gotta actively de-ascend an' spread out a little to stahp yr frickin' head flyin' off.

      St Ignitius of Pompeii said it clearest in his 11th century Summa Geologica treatise on deliverance an' salvation:

      here to ascend is here to be incinerated,
      hanging around is prolly asking for trouble


      My view?

      You gotta take mosta them saint guys with a pincha salt.

      But Ignitius had neat hair, apparently, so I am IN.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    Originally Posted by Zoheb M View Post

    Money earned is not an authentic parameter of real value.

    Money is the measure of EVERYTHING.

    If you worked all your life and have nothing, you just wasted your time.

    Look at all the homeless poverty stricken people that don't even have
    money for food or a decent place to sleep. They are lacking MONEY!

    As to the internet, the various platforms and marketplaces, social media
    sites, etc. have created more millionaires than any other industry in the
    history of the world.

    If you worked all your life and have nothing, there's still a chance for
    you because of the internet.

    That's my philosophy.

    BTW, Welcome back Zoheb!
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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    The startup industry gives you a shot at being self reliant, especially if you can find a piggy back product or service to make what people have easier to use or enhance an existing service. The difficulty is that the average person is not good at managing such an enterprise and startup funds.

    Why do we always complain about managers being really bad. Basically because many are just, us, elevated to this status based on not being competent at managing, but being successful at what we are doing prior to be promoted, we may be a top salesmen but have no track record or aptitude for managing others. This will limit further promotions. So, moving from being a salesmen into promoting and selling a product or service we devised is equally challenging for us. That's why so many fail. Mark Cuban, one of the Shark Tank guys recently said that he has ultimately lost money on his ST investments, many fold.

    The internet marketing side also takes a lot of effort, Much to understand in the way of strategies. However, recently, I am getting a lot of emails from a guy I trust that promotes AI based sites that do it all for you and all you do is pay for hosting and perhaps site names and insert your affiliate Id. I would be interested in just how effective that would be. I had some success in the past with a pre done site that had 40 categories of books taken from Amazons API and you could replicate it 39 times, each site being fronted by a different category. I did no promotion on it at all, and rarely did anyone buy the book they clicked on and often looked around Amazon, only to buy other, often more expensive Amazon products.

    So, internet marketing, ie, getting a slice of the pie, may be getting easier than it used to be because of automation and AI.

    And then we have going out and getting a job, Well, the job for life mentality is getting more and more unstable and competitive and ultimately, AI will take over many tasks.

    So, I think that, by all means have a job, but as your hobby, perhaps spend your money as a sideline, investing in automated sites for example as an Amazon affiliate or something to diversify your income possibilities. As long as you initially regard it as a sideline and you can afford it of course then no harm done.

    Personal advancement, character development relationships and the happiness derived from that is a whole different thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Originally Posted by Zoheb M View Post


    What harm do you think the internet marketing, and startup industry has created, through the back door of our lives?

    How do we destroy it?
    Why do you want to destroy IM isn't that the purpose of this forum? Just think how many people Globally have a chance to start a business. The number of others employed by small, medium, and large start-ups.

    Just think how many people now who have a chance to get their music heard, create a video, or share photographs. A lot of independent musicians can compete now whereas in the past Music & entertainment corporations controlled the markets.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zoheb M
      I edited my post for clarity. Yes, the internet is brilliant. It is so good we are definitely overlooking the problems it is causing future generations.
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Zoheb M View Post

    Money earned is not an authentic parameter of real value.
    Money earned is a very precise way to measure your value to the marketplace. And the marketplace is only made up of people.....who are the sole judges of value received.

    Personal value? There is only value, as it relates to other people.

    If you were on a deserted island, with no animals, how would anything you do have value? Who would measure it? Who would benefit from it?

    If you were totally alone, how could anything you do be considered evil, or good, or valuable, or worthless?

    These are all invented concepts, created by us...to help us fit into a society or tribe.

    Destroy internet marketing?

    Most people in internet marketing are so bad at it, they destroy it for themselves. But it's neither good or bad. Just like a spoon is neither good nor bad.

    To get rid of anything bad, we have to get rid of bad behavior...human behavior.

    Good luck with changing that.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      Money earned is a very precise way to measure your value to the marketplace. And the marketplace is only made up of people.....who are the sole judges of value received.

      Personal value? There is only value, as it relates to other people.

      If you were on a deserted island, with no animals, how would anything you do have value? Who would measure it? Who would benefit from it?

      If you were totally alone, how could anything you do be considered evil, or good, or valuable, or worthless?

      These are all invented concepts, created by us...to help us fit into a society or tribe.

      Destroy internet marketing?

      Most people in internet marketing are so bad at it, they destroy it for themselves. But it's neither good or bad. Just like a spoon is neither good nor bad.

      To get rid of anything bad, we have to get rid of bad behavior...human behavior.

      Good luck with changing that.
      Spoons are evil I tell you and don't get me started on sporks
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    • Profile picture of the author socialentry
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      If you were on a deserted island, with no animals, how would anything you do have value? Who would measure it? Who would benefit from it?

      You ?
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

        You ?
        Yes. And that's why there can't be a moral or value judgement about actions without others involved (or others affected).

        For an action to be judged, there has to be a judge.
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        • Profile picture of the author Princess Balestra
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post


          For an action to be judged, there has to be a judge.
          So what is the gal mannin' the burgah bar to do?

          She figures she don't wanna be there, zackly, but the $$$-backed contract she signed up to demands all kindsa schwango from her ass.

          So mebbe she will cruise this for a while, bcs yanno, sum hot guy may show an' wink out all sweet while she squoits the extra mayo on his #1 choice meat.

          An' prolly she will disregard how NOM FROM PHENOM cuts all kindsa cornahs bringin' its intrinsickly unhealthy an' exploitative crap to precisely the poor neighborhoods gonna suffah from its long term enfeeblizin' ass ...

          but what else she gaht gowin' gonna raise her up from outta swinemunch feedola less'n she can exact necessary discrimination prowess it is in her wit to command?

          Gotta watch this Moi Strikin' Out Bcs ethos tho ... bcs in tha handsa morons an' vacuous douchebagholes, the transformative powah of brilliance gaht scope to drahp evrywan into deepist sh*t evah.

          *bcs nowan saves nowan else betterah than a self-enlightened tyrant than a proto-self-enlightened tyrant*

          So what are we to examine as we flip burgahs while the planit gowin' up in flayummes?

          Lay your hands on the least partisan judgement acyoomen gowin, whooshy El Braino accordingly, an' wake tamara wishin' always to kiss steada kill (should the yooniverse suddenly an' inexplicably promptya for an ansa).
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        • Profile picture of the author Odahh
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          Yes. And that's why there can't be a moral or value judgement about actions without others involved (or others affected).

          For an action to be judged, there has to be a judge.
          The judge is the environment can you gather and prepare enough food to survive and can you build shelter to protect yourself from weather. You survival and how comfortable you can be for years.

          In a civilized setting some form of money has been used to increase survival chances of self and offspring. Then increase personal comfort as more money is available to be acquired.
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          • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
            Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

            The judge is the environment.

            That is strictly true. The results you get are the "judge".

            But when I said...

            "Personal value? There is only value, as it relates to other people.

            If you were on a deserted island, with no animals, how would anything you do have value? Who would measure it? Who would benefit from it?

            If you were totally alone, how could anything you do be considered evil, or good, or valuable, or worthless?

            These are all invented concepts, created by us...to help us fit into a society or tribe."


            I wasn't talking about objective results, but our interpretation of other people's actions.

            But that was a good insight I hadn't considered before. Thanks.
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        • Profile picture of the author socialentry
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          Yes. And that's why there can't be a moral or value judgement about actions without others involved (or others affected).

          For an action to be judged, there has to be a judge.

          but wat if ur deserted island is full of looters and anarchists
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          • Profile picture of the author Monetize
            Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

            but wat if ur deserted island is full of looters and anarchists

            Then it wouldn't be deserted.
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            • Profile picture of the author DABK
              What if they're invisible? Or imaginary?


              Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

              Then it wouldn't be deserted.
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          • Profile picture of the author Odahh
            Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

            but wat if ur deserted island is full of looters and anarchists
            It's really time to lay off the meth at that point. Congrats for setting up a meth lab on a deserted island though.
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            • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
              Originally Posted by Odahh View Post

              It's really time to lay off the meth at that point. Congrats for setting up a meth lab on a deserted island though.
              What if it's a haunted island though, full of Methylated Spirits
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    You could probably shoot half of IMers at random and society would neither lose or gain.
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    • Profile picture of the author Odahh
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      You could probably shoot half of IMers at random and society would neither lose or gain.
      The people making money selling how to get rich products will lose many of their buyers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jamell
    I think it's important to strike a balance .
    .More importantly is being able to recognize the underlying issues as you've done .


    Good post .
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  • Profile picture of the author savidge4
    Originally Posted by Zoheb M View Post

    What harm do you think the internet marketing, and startup industry has created, through the back door of our lives? I think the internet is so brilliant that we will not realize what harm it might be causing. Will be good to think it over, and destroy whats in the way for for future generations.
    I find this discussion to be uh uh very interesting... I will keep my comments to a minimum in fear I will straight up piss some people off

    Why would you want to destroy something that makes life - and work - easier?
    A little better than generally speaking when is easier ever better? Obviously I personally can not disagree that the internet has changed what is work and where it is performed - and looking at the internet purely from a work based lens... yeah it would be hard to argue it is a bad thing... I will also include that with this shift, it is far from easy.

    Then we get into this....

    Money is the measure of EVERYTHING.
    Mother Teresa... the guy or gal at fast food joint X that takes your order with a smile on their face... MONEY is absolutely the last thing I look at in terms of a PERSONS value. an absurd matrix... but none the less one that has been created / hmmm magnified? by the internet - let that sink in for a moment.

    There is at least one other person within this discussion that will agree with me here... the "advent" of AI in regards to like "useable public versions" of it is absolute garbage. If there is a downfall in society waiting to happen we we think Social Media is really bad.... oh AI is the sleeping giant.

    And trust me I am not talking about how AI will take over the world.. that is in part laughable... AI ( public versions ) is just straight up flawed. Does anyone understand what Link rot is? when one really starts to look at the data pools "Public AI" operates under... its All about the Good, Bad and Ugly... the Good the part we should most rely on is mathematically sitting right in around 33% - and again go back and look at a 1 single variable ( link Rot ) and kids... 33% is probably a very conservative number... for every single internet entry that is "Truth" there are probably 10 that are at best half truths and many that are just glommed up goop of a truth, if not an out and ut misrepresentation of truth.

    The biggest AI breakthroughs in recent history... not a one of them operate under "Public AI" ALL OF IT, is within closed data sets - the internet is an absolute dumpster fire of a data source. Has anyone played with Grok yet? ( and when i say play I mean D-load it and run in a closed environment ) OH MY... an actual language Data set

    I wont go down the hole that is social media... Morals are out the door... Competing with the jones' on a whole way elevated other level, Suicide rates through the roof. A tool manipulated by govt.. and im not being political here but name a country any country.

    The internet IS attention... and If your not seeing it for yourself, attention is being manipulated on levels beyond your average persons comprehension - its not that they will, they already are... I being a "service provider" can track the ever living day lights out of someone that clicks on an ad or visits a site

    Has any of you looked at this before? ( https://www.iplocation.net/ ) this is low tech old news stuff right here... As a site operator, you can start to nail down geographic locations of your sites visitors Want to know where you might want to run Geo Specific ads - this would be the start to the answer

    The average person plays around on what I would call a dumbed down version of the internet Passing time - wasting time? The internet at its best is a tool - to make life easier, but 90% of its use is as a drug - and I guess that makes me a dealer ( thinking of it this way, and I am a bit ashamed right now )

    Forget AI... the internet is simply a monster... a world over Sodom and Gomorrah.


    *** And to those I quoted these quotes are repeated sentiments of the discussion... just happened to be the first few I cam across - absolutely nothing personal here.
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    • Profile picture of the author Monetize
      Originally Posted by savidge4 View Post

      Mother Teresa... the guy or gal at fast food joint X that takes your order with a smile on their face... MONEY is absolutely the last thing I look at in terms of a PERSONS value.

      The guy or gal at the burger joint is only there because of MONEY, that's
      the whole purpose of the burger joint.

      They aren't there to smile at YOU nor do they care whether you eat or not.

      They want your MONEY.

      Try going in one of those places with no money and see what happens.

      Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is that we are measured by what we
      own, what we earn, spend, and the amount of money that we control.

      When someone such as an insurance actuary measures your worth, it's
      based on MONEY, your income and what you are projected to earn, not
      your smiles, how many cheeseburgers you served up or how many
      websites you developed.

      Some of the things you all say just cracks me up.
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      • Profile picture of the author savidge4
        Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

        The guy or gal at the burger joint is only there because of MONEY, that's
        the whole purpose of the burger joint.

        They aren't there to smile at YOU nor do they care whether you eat or not.

        They want your MONEY.

        Try going in one of those places with no money and see what happens.

        Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is that we are measured by what we
        own, what we earn, spend, and the amount of money that we control.

        When someone such as an insurance actuary measures your worth, it's
        based on MONEY, your income and what you are projected to earn, not
        your smiles, how many cheeseburgers you served up or how many
        websites you developed.

        Some of the things you all say just cracks me up.
        Any and every major human catastrophe in world history has been perpetrated by a rich individual or group of rich individuals

        Money is a variable... but as i see the world, it in no way is a measure of a persons worth.

        The worth of a person goes deeper than the money. any absolute idiot starting at 17 years old can put $100 a month away and be a millionaire by the age 65 - but that is not the case - I mean really Money grows on trees... you reap what you sow - it is literally that simple.

        Anyone and everyone has the potential to have cash in their pocket, but its a CHOICE - a choice that is made by 1% of the population basically - its a mind numbing thought.

        Money becomes a very poor matrix when looking at an individual persons value - UNLESS the determination of that value is used for some money related valuation aspect. Getting a loan being the example - yeah ok fine whatever.

        I personally go to the CHOICE... are they out earning money? from there it is simply a matter to educate how to grow ones money. From there we can look for the gratitude for being where they are at... a smile on your face goes a long way.

        The whole "we dont have much, but we have each other" - its a THING - more value in that on a human level than any stack of dollars will ever be. If relationships were the dominant determination of "Value" then the 1% would be even smaller - and I believe that the correlation between relationships and dollars is a thing.. Much like Passion and money, Knowledge and money, and experience and money - and ALL OF THESE things are a CHOICE.

        You can be an absolute dick and have money - seems to be a requirement almost - and these people have no VALUE as far as I am concerned - but to have Morals and a bright and cheery disposition and 1/10 the money as the dicks in the world.. and have meaningful relationships etc? THAT is what is priceless in this world.. THAT is where a humans value should be measured

        Its not how much money you take to the grave... its how many people show up when they put you there.
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      • Profile picture of the author DABK
        Who has more value, then, all other things being equal, someone who inherits 3 million or someone who starts from scratch and ends up at 30 with 3 million?


        Point is, money does equate value, in some situations. So do possessions.


        I have a library. That has more value to me than a brand new Porsche.


        However, if on a particular day I find a way of doubling the books in my library by owning a brand new Porrshe, I will own a brand new Porsche long enough to get my books.


        And, lots of the books I have I did not buy, people gave them to me, on account that I was tall, dark and handsome, no doubt.


        Money is a good way to compare jobs, things. One job that requires 40 hours a week to give you $1000 has more value to me, and anyone, than a job that produces the same stress on you, requires 40 hours a week and gets you $800.


        But a job that gets you $800 in 40 hours and lets you do things you love has more value, despite the extra money, to many people, if not most, than a job that pays $1200 for 40 hours but gets you miserable by the end of hour 2.


        The thing with value, it's highly subjective. Yes, most people agree to a large degree on a particular value. And many think money is the measure of everything. However, they've done surveys and studies. About 10 years ago, the first 75k Americans made bought happiness. Earnings about that did not. About three years ago, same kind of study found out that there's happiness inflation... The first 105k Americans made bought happiness. 10501 and higher did not. I bring this up to show that people's idea of the value of money is not fixed.


        I'm done rambling. Gracias.


        Originally Posted by Monetize View Post

        The guy or gal at the burger joint is only there because of MONEY, that's
        the whole purpose of the burger joint.

        They aren't there to smile at YOU nor do they care whether you eat or not.

        They want your MONEY.

        Try going in one of those places with no money and see what happens.

        Unfortunately, the fact of the matter is that we are measured by what we
        own, what we earn, spend, and the amount of money that we control.

        When someone such as an insurance actuary measures your worth, it's
        based on MONEY, your income and what you are projected to earn, not
        your smiles, how many cheeseburgers you served up or how many
        websites you developed.

        Some of the things you all say just cracks me up.
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Thank you,

    I will still go with your ability to survive and thrive alone in those conditions. Is a measure of personal value.

    Plus humans are crazy if they are alone and have no animals they will probably carve statues or make wooden dummies or something that resembles other people. Then give those things voices and such.

    It's probably in the design of our brain or our genetics to have faith and create something else we believe is judging us.

    In any society people have a different idea of personal value even from members of that society. The concept humans invent that might work in small groups but fails as groups get larger is the idea of fairness. That is not a thing outside humans fairness and money

    By being on the island alone with such difficult survival conditions. The human will already feel as if they are being judged harshly and punished. Even if they had no faith or beliefs in such things before.

    Their survival may give a sense of personal value. But they will invent ways to appease some greater force than themselves in hopes of some kind of future rescue
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  • Profile picture of the author Odahh
    Savage great post

    My view is how people treat us is a reflection of the energy or we flow out to others. You get the smiles you get because you are a genuinely good person who makes those around you respond with genuine positive response.

    Long ago you probably just found it more rewarding to only let people around you with that kind of energy or naturally positive personality.

    Adding this.

    Even before social media cell phones were people would have conversations in public or listen to vulgar anything around stranger who really don't want to hear that.

    Then for a time as people got used to just abusing people in social media. They had no trouble talking to strangers in real life like they talked online. And some people got themselves killed doing that.


    Rich poor all along the spectrum of wealth people have the choice to learn to be functional and plesent to be around or treat the people around them with disrespect and disregard. Acquiring what ever type of power they believe gives them the ability to treat the world as a locker room in highschool or the playground.

    People will find a way to use ai and robotics and what ever technology comes along. For that but overall more will use this to improve their quality of life
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    Internet is full of both good and bad.
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  • Profile picture of the author Devilfish168
    The key is to be happy. Epic is not easy to be happy too. Is not due to money, some folks are poor yet they are contended as long got foods to eat a place to stay they already happy with it.
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    From my point of view the main goal in this life is to become happy.
    I mean happy by yourself so your happines wont be something that u cant achive alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zoheb M
    Been thinking, do you think AI will dumb us down long haul?
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Zoheb M View Post

    I believe that there is only one purpose in life, and that is to ascend. Whether it be personal life, or professional life, moving 'up' is all there is. Personal life is clear cut, and the ascension is always clean.

    But when it comes to work, things are a little murky. Money earned is not an authentic parameter of real value. There are problems being created by industry, and we don't really counter it, as we work our way up.

    What harm do you think the internet marketing, and startup industry has created, through the back door of our lives? I think the internet is so brilliant that we will not realize what harm it might be causing. Will be good to think it over, and destroy whats in the way for for future generations.
    Yes ascension and money. You know what money is a by product but believing in yourself, developing steadfast self confidence and the ability to persevere regardless of what you are going through are the real benefits.

    Your composure or knowing deep down that you can do almost anything are the real benefits.

    Or give some homeless person a million then watch then check into a deluxe hotel the next day. Then compare that to someone who spent a large part of their life suffering going without and battling immense failure and you will a very different persona,...very different.

    Or go forward a year or two and the wealthy person will be back again wealthier while the homeless guy won't be there at all. Cause he cannot handle the million cannot comprehend it and may even feel guilty so subconsciously wants to get rid of it asap.

    Sure the internet has a dark side which authorities are trying to clean up overall. Everything has.


    Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

    Money earned is a very precise way to measure your value to the marketplace. And the marketplace is only made up of people.....who are the sole judges of value received.

    Personal value? There is only value, as it relates to other people.

    Destroy internet marketing?

    Most people in internet marketing are so bad at it, they destroy it for themselves. But it's neither good or bad. Just like a spoon is neither good nor bad.

    To get rid of anything bad, we have to get rid of bad behavior...human behavior.

    Good luck with changing that.
    Agreed read about someone this week who turned 15k AU into 8 million with Crypto, then lost most of it or all of it they didn't really say only that once it dropped under 500k then didn't look at it anymore, (two years).

    Total beginners luck with some advise from Youtube, yeah l know. Or they had no idea what they were doing. I personally don't touch that one since l have no real method for it or would lose money until l gave up. Or l stay with one stock only which l understand backwards and like.

    And l depend on human behavior cannot make money otherwise.

    Originally Posted by Zoheb M View Post

    What I mean is that we get almost always paid less than we deserve. It is darker up north, and it is always an uphill climb.
    Of course Google Adsense was great when it first started cheap traffic and great conversion ratio's, but now you have to read the GA bible and try not to break its rules, while trying to figure out how to get value for high cost.

    About the only way around that is too develop systems for per-established money making themes.

    I am making good money right now, watching my tablet - online trading app equity value.

    Why? because l put a lot of work into it, because l understand market manipulation and because l understand human behavior.

    Also because l created a system from my last 4 years doing this, some very hard.

    And the money l make makes more leveraged by margin that most retail investors lose money with.

    It is possible to expand you just need to find something that is profitable then scale.
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