My Autonomous Uber Experience

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Last night I Ubered home from my friends place, about a 23 minute journey. A guy showed up in a brand new Tesla. He spoke the destination address into the car and it set off by itself and we did the whole journey without him touching the steering wheel, indicators or pedals. The car negotiated various roads, the freeway, lane changes entirely by itself. It actually felt safe. The journey was very smooth. A car like this does not take risks like a human would.

He explained a few things along the way. If he re-takes the wheel or pedals then the car immediately returns control to him. A camera is trained on him all the time and will sound an alarm if it sees him falling asleep.

He also told me, in a few states, like California, they are trialing the following. It is now possible for a car to drop you off at work and go off Ubering by itself for the day, earning you extra money and pick you up, end of day. Something that will be rolled out slowly methinks.

All in all, I was very impressed. The future is here.
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  • Profile picture of the author max5ty
    Ashley has one of these new-fangled things.

    I think there are 3 different levels you can use?

    It is rather exciting.

    Tesla does say snow and rain may mess with its abilities.

    I guess California doesn't get much snow...last couple years in Ohio we haven't got a whole lot either. We do get ice though...but rainy days might be a little more difficult to send your car out to work for you while you lay in bed and watch soaps all day
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  • Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    A guy showed up in a brand new Tesla. He spoke the destination address into the car and it set off by itself and we did the whole journey without him touching the steering wheel, indicators or pedals.
    Glad to hear he could keep his frickin' hands off.

    Most guys in taxis cain't.

    Meantimes, 2 guys get inta a fully automated Tesla.

    (So there is no other 'guy'. That is the Tesla Story.)

    They say: imagine two women at the goddamn wheel!

    (My conceit: Ima presentin' the guys here as singin' along in a myoosical. Which'n, mostly they nevah do ... which is why we gotta praysee* thr woids.)

    Then they BARK the RIGHT INSTRUCTIONS into the DUMB SLAVE DELIVERY EQUIPMENT at THE SAME TIME, OVAH AN' OVAH -- an' crash inta a TREE.

    You would want always to wondah 'bout who might one day command your immediate vehiculah instances.

    I am particulah, as are all Princesses.

    * For anywan don't always figure too easy my contractions, exactionals, and loorid alloore, my PRINCESS2YOUTHESAURO gonna open up a gateway to my ONLINE BACK PASSAGE soon as I spit out evry seecrit! Till'n then, word is précis."
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    • Profile picture of the author max5ty
      Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

      Glad to hear he could keep his frickin' hands off.

      Most guys in taxis cain't.

      Meantimes, 2 guys get inta a fully automated Tesla.

      (So there is no other 'guy'. That is the Tesla Story.)

      They say: imagine two women at the goddamn wheel!

      (My conceit: Ima presentin' the guys here as singin' along in a myoosical. Which'n, mostly they nevah do ... which is why we gotta praysee* thr woids.)

      Then they BARK the RIGHT INSTRUCTIONS into the DUMB SLAVE DELIVERY EQUIPMENT at THE SAME TIME, OVAH AN' OVAH -- an' crash inta a TREE.

      You would want always to wondah 'bout who might one day command your immediate vehiculah instances.

      I am particulah, as are all Princesses.

      * For anywan don't always figure too easy my contractions, exactionals, and loorid alloore, my PRINCESS2YOUTHESAURO gonna open up a gateway to my ONLINE BACK PASSAGE soon as I spit out evry seecrit! Till'n then, word is précis."
      Not sure if women drivers are worse...or men drivers.

      I just know with the whole autonomous feature it's probably safer.

      Plus, all those that want to use their cell phones when they drive are probably ok?

      I fly a lot in my own plane when I travel...it's probably safer than all the idiots on the road right now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

        Plus, all those that want to use their cell phones when they drive are probably ok?
        This must surely be the appeal. All that wasted time getting somewhere when we could be consuming.

        But hey, don't blame me - I voted for faster horses.
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

          This must surely be the appeal. All that wasted time getting somewhere when we could be consuming.

          But hey, don't blame me - I voted for faster horses.
          After years of studying the problem of slow horses....applying the core concepts of quantum physics, Bayesian probability, and abductive logic....I have the answer.


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          • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            After years of studying the problem of slow horses....applying the core concepts of quantum physics, Bayesian probability, and abductive logic....I have the answer.

            Roller skates.

            I already tried that. Couldn't get my feet into the stirrups.
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          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            After years of studying the problem of slow horses....applying the core concepts of quantum physics, Bayesian probability, and abductive logic....I have the answer.


            Roller skates.


            Don't get up...I'll let myself out.
            Dan Riffle uses them. He likes to roll with the punches
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            After years of studying the problem of slow horses....applying the core concepts of quantum physics, Bayesian probability, and abductive logic....I have the answer.

            Roller skates.

            Don't get up...I'll let myself out.
            We always knew you had a lot of Horse-sense.

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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    Last night I Ubered home from my friends place, about a 23 minute journey. A guy showed up in a brand new Tesla. He spoke the destination address into the car and it set off by itself and we did the whole journey without him touching the steering wheel, indicators or pedals. The car negotiated various roads, the freeway, lane changes entirely by itself. It actually felt safe. The journey was very smooth. A car like this does not take risks like a human would.

    .
    I never liked the autonomous idea probably because of devout fans dying while in their self driving Tesla's that got confused.

    But the trials that Google and others are running in California is showing higher safety rates than human driving.

    But the Archelles heel of all of this is machine parts get old which could lead to fatal accidents and all of these trials are in new cars with mint condition electronics and very likely squeaky clean sensors.

    Bottom line is get one of those and as long as you service it once a year or more you may be fine.

    I am in the process of getting a semi new car since my Pulsar GX 1988 model, (l know Mark) is un-serviceable.

    Or the parameters it used for the petrol fuel mix on cold mornings has shifted due to age of parts, which means the service technicials are guessing. Not bad the engine lasted 37 years, but Nissan was very reliable back then not now though.

    I guess EV's are fine since they have to be replaced every decade or 7 tears, but this is a long way off for the general population.

    Hybrids are becoming more popular in Australia at least Toyota thinks so, and EV's less so and l did see one Tesla get driven out of the car dealership making no noise at all, and said "scary".
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  • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
    That's an interesting point you raised there about the Tesla making no noise. Inside this guys Tesla, it sounded like the average sound of of a car running, noise wise. However, the guy said that the car actually makes little to no noise and they added in a lot of the sound to let you know the cars running. Generally it was only for our familiarity. So there might be a hidden speaker for generating this perhaps?

    I would also hope that if a camera or sensor was not functioning properly the computer should pick this up and not allow autonomous driving to operate until cleaned or repaired.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    I will happily let you be a guinea pig until they work out all the Windows blue screen of death type "features." LOL You don't want your car rebooting on the freeway.

    I know they say this is the future. I'm just not convinced the technology is there yet.

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

    That's an interesting point you raised there about the Tesla making no noise. Inside this guys Tesla, it sounded like the average sound of of a car running, noise wise. However, the guy said that the car actually makes little to no noise and they added in a lot of the sound to let you know the cars running. Generally it was only for our familiarity. So there might be a hidden speaker for generating this perhaps?

    I would also hope that if a camera or sensor was not functioning properly the computer should pick this up and not allow autonomous driving to operate until cleaned or repaired.
    Unfortunately if you decide to pull the battery and have had it for 20 years the computer that notices that may be faulty as well as the shifting benchmarks due to age.

    Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

    I will happily let you be a guinea pig until they work out all the Windows blue screen of death type "features." LOL You don't want your car rebooting on the freeway.

    I know they say this is the future. I'm just not convinced the technology is there yet.

    Mark
    Agreed it stops on the freeway with a blue screen saying "updates commencing please stand by" while a truck is bearing down on you, and you are seeing your life flash before your eyes while "Another one Bites the dust on the radio" or should that be "knocking at Heavens Door".

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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Tesla has a lot of issues with their self-driving features. Companies like Waymo that use Lidar are having better results. Musk refuses to look at other methods besides his camera versions. I wouldn't be surprised if a major class action suit is filed against Tesla. China is into self-driving with Hesai being the top company there.

    Just because Tesla's EVs have self-driving vehicles. Several other companies are working to incorporate ADAS into ICE vehicles or Hybirds. Volvo just released an SUV in the US with Lumminar Lidar built into the roof. At this time it will be used to gather information. https://www.volvocars.com/us/cars/ex...1&gclsrc=3p.ds
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    But - you have to start somewhere.



    Musk refuses to look at other methods besides his camera versions.
    Musk is focused on the method that resulted from HIS vision. Musk is often first in development of new technology...then others redesign what he started, refine the processes and say 'look, we're better'.



    Class action suits are a dime a dozen these days - keep the lawyers in tennis clothes, I guess. Consumers should share some of the obligation for choosing what they will buy and how it will be used.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      But - you have to start somewhere.

      Musk is focused on the method that resulted from HIS vision. Musk is often first in development of new technology...then others redesign what he started, refine the processes and say 'look, we're better'.

      Class action suits are a dime a dozen these days - keep the lawyers in tennis clothes, I guess. Consumers should share some of the obligation for choosing what they will buy and how it will be used.
      Musk also has a bad habit of making grandous statements that don't happen.
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      • Profile picture of the author max5ty
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Musk also has a bad habit of making grandous statements that don't happen.
        That could all be true...

        but right now...I just checked...

        he's the richest guy in the world.

        So, he's doing something right.
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        • Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

          That could all be true...

          but right now...I just checked...

          he's the richest guy in the world.

          So, he's doing something right.
          Self-incentivised evah moron promotin' communal demise?

          Fkr bettah sell any trophy he wins to sum "eatin' pets" charity before he bows out, the dipsho.
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          • Profile picture of the author max5ty
            Originally Posted by Princess Balestra View Post

            Self-incentivised evah moron promotin' communal demise?

            Fkr bettah sell any trophy he wins to sum "eatin' pets" charity before he bows out, the dipsho.
            Maybe...

            but, he hires more people and gives more people jobs than any of us probably ever will
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

          That could all be true...

          but right now...I just checked...

          he's the richest guy in the world.

          So, he's doing something right.
          He got lucky when he was a kid and then invested only in businesses that were government subsided.

          But he did risk his PayPal profits on those businesses and risked everything again on his reusable rockets so give him credit for that.
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          • Profile picture of the author max5ty
            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

            He got lucky when he was a kid and then invested only in businesses that were government subsided.

            But he did risk his PayPal profits on those businesses and risked everything again on his reusable rockets so give him credit for that.
            Something I like to do is research the stories behind wealthy people.

            Contrary to what some think, Elon didn't inherit anything from his family.

            He came to America broke and built an empire.

            For most of us, a million dollars is a lot.

            A billion dollars is somewhere out there in the stratosphere.

            400 and some billion is mind-boggling.

            Of all the stories and research I've done on successful people...I think Howard Hughes is still one of the most interesting...but that's another whole thread.
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Originally Posted by max5ty View Post

              Something I like to do is research the stories behind wealthy people.

              Contrary to what some think, Elon didn't inherit anything from his family.

              He came to America broke and built an empire.

              For most of us, a million dollars is a lot.

              A billion dollars is somewhere out there in the stratosphere.

              400 and some billion is mind-boggling.

              Of all the stories and research I've done on successful people...I think Howard Hughes is still one of the most interesting...but that's another whole thread.
              Agreed there are a few video's l believe on the Disney channel about Musk and how he built up his reusable rocket empire, worth a look.
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  • Hey, yeah, plus also, I forgot:

    Evry Sagittarian would wish always to romp out on the most exotic stirrups.

    Less'n we would naht actshswlly wish for that, an' we kick an' bite so's it won't happin to EVIN LIKE NO WANNA THEM SHAVED FRICKIN' STOOPID CATS.

    I looked in on AI-DNA-PET-FKN-COMFORT-2-GO.DUH'T-CAAAHM las' night (curse Moi, they had a speshl offah on muh fayvrit cocktails, plus also a real cool CANOE OAR I nevah wanted), an' I believe the breed is called a SPHEEYINX.

    Tellya, I gaht no prahblem with Mendel evococatin' smoochie smellin' roses an' carnations gonna make muh heart drip ... but I draw the line at pets gowin' noplace othah than their ownah's warped desiah for proxy perfectschwaahn!

    Tellya, the crayziah the world gets, the more you gotta be choosy ' bout yr choices.

    So mebbe FORCE ME INTA YR DREAM DESIRED STIRRUPS AN' SEE WHAT HAPPINS.

    See, bcs I purchased a SPESSHL SPOON from Jenny Inevitable of Cool Meals Every Time -- an' now I can make tomato soop, also carrot an' (as yet naht) coriandah merely by whippin' muh hand round an' round in an absoloot fury.

    When I mastahed CREAM OF CHICKEN, I will report back.

    Stir it up
    Little darlin', stir it up
    Come on, baby
    Come on and stir it up
    Little darlin', stir it up, oh-oh


    Hey, can you STFU?

    I have a TV chef in Moi, an' I won't evah compromise on flambé.
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  • Interesting story! Tesla's autopilot really sounds like something out of science fiction, but it's reality. It's fascinating to see how technology is changing our perception of safety and convenience while traveling
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
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    These little robots have become a common sight in the nearby college town. They are very polite and always say 'thank you'.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    Uber announced today that it is expanding into the Austin and Atlanta markets.- Here is a link to the full story if anyone is interested - https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...ta/ar-AA1qwvBs

    Speaking of self-driving, in the future the feature would be great for the elderly who lose their driving skills. Plus some of the bad drivers out there. Just think someone on a long trip gets tired. Kick in the autonomous driving feature, sit back, and relax instead of putting others in danger.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Auto accidents happen because of a difference in speed or driver error. One car going too slow - another too fast ...someone looking at their phone or dozing off or driving erratically.


    If all the cars on the road maintained a specific distance from each other (automatically) and all on the highway drove at the same speed - lives would be saved, hospitals less crowded. On and off ramps would be slower lanes but still could maintain a specific speed. Bonus might well be you'd get there faster, too.


    Maybe it could go a step further and immobilize any drivers showing symptoms of road rage....THAT would be a winner.
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    Originally Posted by DWolfe View Post

    Uber announced today that it is expanding into the Austin and Atlanta markets.- Here is a link to the full story if anyone is interested - https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/comp...ta/ar-AA1qwvBs

    Speaking of self-driving, in the future the feature would be great for the elderly who lose their driving skills. Plus some of the bad drivers out there. Just think someone on a long trip gets tired. Kick in the autonomous driving feature, sit back, and relax instead of putting others in danger.
    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    Auto accidents happen because of a difference in speed or driver error. One car going too slow - another too fast ...someone looking at their phone or dozing off or driving erratically.

    If all the cars on the road maintained a specific distance from each other (automatically) and all on the highway drove at the same speed - lives would be saved, hospitals less crowded. On and off ramps would be slower lanes but still could maintain a specific speed. Bonus might well be you'd get there faster, too.

    Maybe it could go a step further and immobilize any drivers showing symptoms of road rage....THAT would be a winner.
    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...ot-fatal-crash

    We still have scientists frothing at the mouth over this tech, and really want it to happen, or it seems if we had a robot driving a autonomous car it would be perfect.

    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...r-harry-potter

    The truck driver, Frank Baressi, 62, told the Associated Press that the Tesla driver Joshua Brown, 40, was "playing Harry Potter on the TV screen" during the collision and was driving so fast that "he went so fast through my trailer I didn't see him".
    I won't say it, but everyone saying it is safe and trials with new sensors and new everything over short time frames isn't testing it is more of a PR stunt.

    Testing this in the real world with a million cars over a decade is testing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    From 2018 to 2022, the number of deadly accidents in the United States increased by more than 16% -- from 36,835 fatal car crashes in 2018 to 42,795 fatal car crashes in 2022.

    Even with accidents, I don't think cars on auto pilot would do worse than that. If you could eliminate impaired drivers (drunks/drugs) and distracted drivers (phones/texts) that alone would probably cut the number of deaths at least in half.
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