STUPID 50 POSTS RULE

I understand your sentiments, but you're looking at it from a selfish perspective. Those of us that have been around here for some time appreciate the rule. It prevents spammers from coming in and just PMing everyone with garbage.

Well, if you just gel along with the community, browse a bit and participate in the conversations, 50 posts should not be a problem whatsoever.

They have the rule in place for stopping the spammers, etc.

Patience is the virtue. I can see you have been a member since Nov 2008. If you make at least one contribution every day, it wont take long to accumulate 50 posts...
cheer up and a merry xmas

I also see it as a way to get people involved before trying to sell everything to us. it allows for one to prove themselves and for other members to see how the act and what knowledge or expertise they have . it is a win win

maybe you shouldn't have posted a classified ad without understanding the rules first

-WD

Real sorry about your little problem. This is not an advertising forum -- it is a community. I see you have ONE post. You came here just to throw advertisements at us? Precisely why the rule is in effect. If you can't be a member in good standing here - we really don't care what you have to sell.

I always get a kick out of posts that say "I'm not ion the habit of moaning" then proceed to moan.
This isn't the only post you have made "moaning" about the 50 post rule either.

HEY, did you notice what happened? You moaned about it, and it was moved to offtopic so you don't get the benefit of the posts! IRONIC, HUH!?!? The 50 post rul is a nice one. Considering that the average prolific poster EASILY posts 6 LEGITIMATE posts a day, that means it will take you less than 9 days! Is that REALLY too much to ask?

Steve

Heck Steve, I know quite a few of us here that could post almost all 50 in a single day if we wanted to.

Another One Hit (post) Wonder.

You are off to a good start. Happy Holidays.

Do a little more grafting and you'll get there

Please see this thread:

http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...g-here-wf.html

Thanks for sharing!

I really think that 50 is so small and as others say , it is a forum a place for community not for advertise,

LOL - no you're not. This is the OT forum. Oh heck.......just figure it out on your own.

wont it be better to get it down to something like 15 posts?

Let me tell you the OBVIOUS intent!

1. There is this rule to encourage some quality content, cause most posts to be informational, and limit the ability of robot posters, scammers, spammers, etc....
2. Although not usually noticed, and I forget what it is EXACTLY, there IS a wait requirement for posting. It may take several HOURS to post 50 posts! Don't think you can get it done in a few minutes, it just won't let you!
3. If it were REAL low, they couldn't be moderated fast enough, and it would be senseless. If it were too high, MANY would be complaining. Frankly, I think 50 is PERFECT! If you post QUALITY content, you can EASILY meet the requirement. If you post GARBAGE, it will be moderated away, and you may NEVER meet the requirement.

If you can't understand THAT simple concept, maybe you shouldn't be selling AT ALL!!!!!!

Steve

Thank you for the reminder. I've been meaning to make a post about this...


Paul

To OP aren't you glad you posted this now:p

Now suck it up get over it and get on with it contribute to the community and stop your whining already.

-WD

Merry Christmas everybody :-)

As a new member with less than 50 posts, and the objective to earn the right to do business with warrior members, I understand this rule.

While 50 posts might be a number than is a little high, the objective makes perfect sense. In fact, it's likely that the higher the number of required posts increase the quality of the warrior member. That's a great thing for those that want to add value and earn business.

Hey guys.

Just wanted to make myself clear on a few things here before I receive anymore savagings :-)

I'm not trying to spam or sell info products to anyone, I have experience in customer support and wanted to sell my services in this area but yes I probably should have checked the forum rules before posting the classified ad - my mistake but I was just offering my opinion on the 50 posts rule and I can see from looking round the posts that I am not alone in my opinion.

Yes it's true I'm not a very active member of the forum but I do like to read it from time to time and find it great source of news and information in much the same way as you would a newspaper. I like to use it as a form of news resource and when I noticed it had a classified section I decided to use it to offer my services much in the same way as you would a newspaper.

OK, so I did something which obviously put some of your backs up but some of you were nice enough not to pre-judge me and pointed out my error in a civilised well mannered way and I thank you for that.

We're all here to learn aren't we so it would be nice to be given the benefit of the doubt before being jumped on.

Anyway, I'll contribute something when I have something to say and not because I need to fulfill a 50 posts quota. Making 50 posts doesn't automatically mean the postee is offering value and credibility in every one of those 50 posts in my view.

Well that's all fine and dandy, Littlegrafter, but it doesn't fly.

You've been here a year and you claim to read -- but still don't understand the system, the community, rules, or procedures?

And - you can forget all the rules in the place.......if you have been reading as you claim to have been, you will realize that this place has waves of scammers and shammers moving through all the time. Outside of a few really clueless newbies, people join here and buy here because they can get to know the people they are buying from and can trust their products better than they can trust just any program or ad they see on the net. For the most part, all it would take for a member to click off your offer is to look at your post count and see that you aren't known here.

It's your business to run as you see fit. You can protest the post requirement all you want. It wouldn't help you two bits around this place to not have it intact. While post counts don't mean much of squat to indicate your knowledge - they go one heck of a long way to show your integration with the members, and THAT will say more about your trust value than any pitch you could write. So continuing to protest the count might satisfy your sense of worth.........but it isn't doing much about convincing people to want to deal with your services.

Suit yourself. We have hundreds of well established individuals here who offer the same service to chose from. If you refuse to compete in your own field, it's really no skin off of our noses.

Just sayin..........

I prefer to prove my trust value by first talking to the people who respond to my adverts, then providing them with my credentials including references from my satisfied clients and samples of the emails I receive from satisfied customers every day.

This is how I get my clients and it has proved to be successful for me.

Post counts mean little to me and say nothing about the persons trustworthyness and while it might be an indicator as to how active they are in the forum it says nothing about the quality of that persons products or business ethics.

My original post was just to point out the limitations of the 50 post rule and I know for a fact that it doesn't stop determined spammers or people wanting to offer rubbish products.

As for contributing to the community, I have been a member since November 2008 yes, and while I prefer not to post regulalrly I enjoy browsing the forum from time to time - is this wrong? should the WF force people to make regular posts?

I get a great deal from my membership just as it is without having to make daily posts and I also contribute in my own way.

During the 5 or so years I have been involved in internet marketing I have often referred people to this very forum and in the 2 years I have been working in a customer support role I directly refer my clients customers to people on this forum by name so I have done my fair share of sending business this way.

Whether you don't like the terms of service or not is beside the point. Whether you have a smashing business elsewhere is beside the point.

What is NOT beside the point is that you have been a part of a forum for a year and were not aware of the TOS BEFORE you put your money down. I'm at a loss to see how this shows business scruples. It doesn't matter how you WANT to do or USUALLY do business - when you place money down, the smart policy is to read the TOS FIRST.

Now you come in here and admit to this sort of lapse of common sense - lack of care to speak to any of us or provide any decent content in the community, and compound your error by coming in here and not only admitting to it, but also complaining about it, as if it's going to change anything when most people AGREE with the policy.

Further, you call the necessity to interact with possible buyers here a FORCED action.
That's what you think of me? You don't care to even speak to me unless I am talking to you about buying your product?

I'm glad you have a very solid business and don't need my money to get you through the day because you'd starve.

This is my last post here. I don't feel like talking to you. If you want to buy one of my products you can email me and I'll bother with you then.

I would bet that I am right. 50 posts was NOT picked because it was hard, etc.. but because it would create a minimum window of HOURS in which moderation could keep the count low. HECK, I have SO many posts that some accused me of posting to EVERY thread. I NEVER did that.

How can ANYONE claim that they have something to sell but can't create 50 posts? Think about it. Just look for topics you have some interest/ability in, and respond.

Steve

Okay, testing the time limit!

Wow, THIRTY SECONDS. So yeah, fifty posts would take... um... at least 25 minutes.

That's not even half an hour.

I had no idea that there was such a thing as a minimum post rule. Lets just say that I do not even come close...good to know.

and yet I still continue to have happy satisfied customers :-)

I wouldn't often do this, and I may regret doing so, however, Littlegrafter is a personal friend of mine who I have worked with for 10 months in the same physical office day-in and day-out.

Now, I agree, LG shouldn't have posted this thread. I think he knows, understands and feels that as well.

I also agree it's up to Allen what the rules are, and I for one intend to live by them, because I am very grateful to be a member here. There are some who won't like it, but unfortunately, that won't change the rules.

That isn't really what I wanted to discuss though.

What I want to say is I am a little disappointed at some of the implications that have been leveled at LG. He is far from a scammer and is one of the most straight, fair-dealing people I have dealt with in this community (and by community, I mean the online marketing community). He is also very good at what he does.

I can also vouch that he has spent a considerable amount of time on this forum (some times to the detriment of his work schedule!). He has even personally interacted with people and done a little business here and there. He is genuinely a good and sincere guy, and whilst I am still a nobody in this community, I'd vouch for him, and I have interacted with people here for some time.

Now admittedly, he hasn't approached things in the way that a lot of WF's would like and require, but I don't think this error is down to any malice, or under-hand intent on his part.

My biggest frustration with LG is he hasn't contributed on the forum. It's a frustration because he has a lot of good stuff to say and has a solid writing style as well. I don't have his permission, so I won't post the url to his blog, but I think there is some excellent content there and I enjoy reading it. He would add a lot of value to this forum if he spoke up.

Why doesn't he? He has never really said, but knowing the man as I do, I would guess that it is because he doesn't feel his opinion is worthy of being shared. He is very modest, shy and sincere and in some ways it's his biggest weakness. I hope perhaps that after this little exchange, he might well be moved to go forward and share some of his thoughts.

I agree, this thread shouldn't be here, but I know it to be an honest mistake.

I agree with the rules as they stand, although they are imperfect (imperfect in the sense some bad apples still slip through the net), but nothing will ever be perfect.

However, LG is far from a scammer or snake-oil salesman. He's a very decent good guy and I wouldn't like to stand-by and watch as his reputation is ruined based on miss-informed assumptions about him. He didn't help that with his own actions perhaps, but I think he has admitted this and acknowledged the genuine concerns of Warriors.

LG, I hope you are going to kick-start the posting now! :-)

To the rest of the Warriors here, I hope you all had a good xmas/holiday and best wishes to you all for the new year.

That makes nonsense of my earlier reply "Do a little more grafting and you'll get there" to you US folks !!

Over here "grafter" simply means "worker" - a grafter is "someone not afraid to get their hands dirty!"

Ah well, you learn something every day!

Hi Bill,

Thanks very much for your reply. Really appreciate it and I am still appreciating that work you did for me everyday still!

Interesting insight with regards to the definition of "grafter" over there in the US. Funny how very small things make BIG differences.

Kevin,
Yes, I know that.
KJ,
I think grifter is more in line with what you mean, a grifter is a con man, while graft is ill gotten gains.Graft is more known as a bribe than a con.

For all of you that are going to disagree with me, thats ok!

Engame - thanks for the glowing reference mate I hope it goes some way towards proving my good character to the WF community.

Killer Joe - thank you also for your kind comments and also making me aware of the US meaning of my profile name - probably need to re-think that one LOL!!

:-)

There is NO fair way to determine character, etc.... C'est la vie. This IS a VERY good guideline though.

I understand your complaint but perhaps you should contribute something to the community before posting ads.

Steven, thank you for explaining things so clearly.

In fact thank all of you warriors for saying it like it is.

I have been reading the post for only a week now, but I feel at home where everyone helps everyone else. I look forward to finding my place among you all.

I love the fifty post rule..........afraid to say other wise........lol

I have been to the spam forum......not much positive gets done.....

The "good" forums are good places to learn and share.....

I think everyone who signed up after me should do 100 posts.....lol

Boy you really struck a nerve. I am almost afraid to give an opinion. There are alot of people in this warrior forum that have been here so long they forget how it was when they first started. Don't be scared just learn the rules and provide value. Thats it. Simple. I just hope it works out for ya.

Think you have a great New Years Resolution:

To contribute 50 worthwhile posts to the Warrior Forum.

And I would add to that:

Pay to become a member of The War Room.

I have to say that this is the best value investment of my IM career! Long may it last!

I know this answer is a little late but I think comparing the Warrior Forum to a private party is a bit far fetched.

I mean if you accepted payment from that businessman (classified ads) to promote his products at the party then the businessman would reasonably expect that he is allowed to talk to guests at the party (pm)

Epicurus/Littlegrafter had a very valid point when posting, he had paid for a service and expected to be able to communicate with his customers. The fact that he didn't understand the 50 post rule is no reason to be rude.

I think the many rude posts by some long time warrior members with high post count at the beginning of this thread was not a display of good character.

Don't get me wrong, I think the 50 post rule is a good thing. The problem is that the Warrior Forum accepts classified ads from people with less than 50 posts.

If members are not considered trustworthy before the age #50 then why let them offer products for sale?

Waiting for flames to erupt...