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Cime: Should peedos be named and shamed?

by Bitethehand
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Has anybody seen this? www.theratbook.com. Its a big name and shame website for UK criminals, paedophiles, rapists, murderers etc. This looks like a pretty dangerous thing to me...Ive heard about the pediatrician that was attacked by a lynch mob..the last thing we need is more public paranoia!!
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    Originally Posted by Bitethehand View Post

    Has anybody seen this? www.theratbook.com. Its a big name and shame website for UK criminals, paedophiles, rapists, murderers etc. This looks like a pretty dangerous thing to me...Ive heard about the pediatrician that was attacked by a lynch mob..the last thing we need is more public paranoia!!
    Well then they shouldnt be raping or murdering people... right?
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    If they have went to prison and served their time, they have paid their debt to society and should be allowed to re-integrate back into society. That is how our justice system is supposed to work.

    However I also believe that when it comes to pedophiles, they can't be 'fixed' and should therefore be afforded a quick execution after their speedy trial afforded them by the constitution in the u.s.
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    • Profile picture of the author Profit-smart
      Originally Posted by Michael Motley View Post

      If they have went to prison and served their time, they have paid their debt to society and should be allowed to re-integrate back into society. That is how our justice system is supposed to work.

      However I also believe that when it comes to pedophiles, they can't be 'fixed' and should therefore be afforded a quick execution after their speedy trial afforded them by the constitution in the u.s.
      The OP is talking about the UK micheal.


      Anyways everybodys allowed there opinions, but personally I think all crimes with victims should be public knowledge.

      I know here-we lock a lot of people up for bull**** reasons.

      But if you Rape, Murder, Kidnap, Mame, or otherwise violate a fellow human being? I think the public has a right to keep an eye on you.

      Tell me Micheal, would you be cool living next door to some guy who just got out of prison for murder?

      Nah. You'd probably wanna know. If only so you didnt piss the guy off.

      I mean, I know I would.
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
        Originally Posted by Profit-smart View Post

        The OP is talking about the UK micheal.


        Anyways everybodys allowed there opinions, but personally I think all crimes with victims should be public knowledge.

        I know here-we lock a lot of people up for bull**** reasons.

        But if you Rape, Murder, Kidnap, Mame, or otherwise violate a fellow human being? I think the public has a right to keep an eye on you.

        Tell me Micheal, would you be cool living next door to some guy who just got out of prison for murder?

        Nah. You'd probably wanna know. If only so you didnt piss the guy off.

        I mean, I know I would.
        I know the U.K. is the focus here, but I have an issue with the way we do this to pedos in this country. I am by no means sticking up for the pedo, but either the guy (or girl) has paid their debt to society and should be allowed to meld back into society, or the legal system doesnt believe they are truly rehabilitated and they should be out of prison.

        We dont put people in the stocks any more. public humiliation isnt the way we do business.

        I wouldnt really care if a murderer was next to me honestly. Probably at any given time there is a drug dealer, drug user, wife beater or some other form of criminal living next to you anyway.
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        • Profile picture of the author Radix
          Everyone's got a billboard right above their face.

          M=Murder
          R=Rape
          P=Pedophilia
          A=Assault
          T=Theft
          D=Dallas Cowboys fans

          Once the forehead is full, we can start using the rest of the face.
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          • Profile picture of the author glchandler
            If they have went to prison and served their time, they have paid their debt to society and should be allowed to re-integrate back into society. That is how our justice system is supposed to work.

            However I also believe that when it comes to pedophiles, they can't be 'fixed' and should therefore be afforded a quick execution after their speedy trial afforded them by the constitution in the u.s.
            My wife and I have worked with numerous foster children---and the ones that are the most damaged are those who have been molested. Pedophiles have a special place in my mind, and it is not in the sympathy section.

            However, I also believe there should be degrees of sex offender registration.
            There are many instances in young offenders where the "crime" is not truly pedophilia. Example are the nude photos kids are now sending via phone cameras. Some of these have been labeled sex offenders and therefore must register for life.

            Cannot condone the phone pictures, but as said above, there should be some limitations on how many offenders lives are open to the public.
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            • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
              Originally Posted by glchandler View Post

              My wife and I have worked with numerous foster children---and the ones that are the most damaged are those who have been molested. Pedophiles have a special place in my mind, and it is not in the sympathy section.

              However, I also believe there should be degrees of sex offender registration.
              There are many instances in young offenders where the "crime" is not truly pedophilia. Example are the nude photos kids are now sending via phone cameras. Some of these have been labeled sex offenders and therefore must register for life.

              Cannot condone the phone pictures, but as said above, there should be some limitations on how many offenders lives are open to the public.
              i agree. Down here, if you happen to be out having a particularly drunken night and happen into an alley to relieve yourself (as many who have had a few too many do) and an officer comes upon you, you can be charged for public indecency, which is a sexual crime in this state and you will be listed on the website and forced to register wherever you go just like the kiddy diddlers.

              I know a handful of guys that have been labeled as a sexual offender because they were over 18 with a 16-17 year old gf, mom and dad were pissed about it and he got hit with a statutory rape charge. It doesnt matter that since then the guys have not only made up with the parents, but have went on to marry the women, and raise a family with them. There was one guy down here that had to move away from his family because he had the above situation happen to him. He was 18, had a 17 year old ex, paretns were pissed about the relationship, jacked him up with stat. rape charges. He broke up with that one and went on to marry another woman and had a family. He's now 32 and cant be around his own family because the state of florida has him labeled as a sex offender and in this state sex offenders can't be within 500 feet of children or live with them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit-smart
    Chandler, your absolutely right. I remember reading about a case where a 16 year old boy was sent to prison for 10 years for having intercourse with a 15 year old. Hes 25 or 26 now, and his entire life is ruined.

    Our justice system has some MAJOR problems in this country. For all of our freedoms, we are really the worlds biggest prison.

    The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world.[4][5] The U.S. incarceration rate on December 31, 2008 was 754 inmates per 100,000 U.S. residents.[6] The USA also has the highest total documented prison and jail population in the world.[4][7][8]
    Source-Incarceration in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    "Our justice system has some MAJOR problems in this country. For all of our freedoms, we are really the worlds biggest prison."

    Crime Pays!
    There is no doubt about it. Our government is outsourcing the operations of our penal system and the private sector is making big bucks off of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Profit-smart
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      "Our justice system has some MAJOR problems in this country. For all of our freedoms, we are really the worlds biggest prison."

      Crime Pays!
      There is no doubt about it. Our government is outsourcing the operations of our penal system and the private sector is making big bucks off of it.
      Yep. Thats frickin terrifying.

      I remember reading about a case where a town let this corporation build a new juvenile detention facility.

      What didnt come out for years, was that the town judge was a stockholder; so he was sending everybody away for anything he could.

      The juvenile facility never released anybody, because they had financial incentive to keep them there.

      I'm a redblooded , fat pig Capitalist through and through-But for the sake of our society, certain limits need to be drawn.

      Some things like education, prison, military activities, and policing, should be solely left to government agencys. When your dealing with systems that kill, police, or imprison people you DONT want to provide financial incentive to do it more often.
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      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      "Our justice system has some MAJOR problems in this country. For all of our freedoms, we are really the worlds biggest prison."

      Crime Pays!
      There is no doubt about it. Our government is outsourcing the operations of our penal system and the private sector is making big bucks off of it.
      Indoctrination. People are being hit with propaganda left and right to be self-righteous and incarcerate EVERYONE for EVERYTHING they can get away with. We now feel that it is really a good thing to monitor anyone the system determines to be a "risk". It's indoctrination and if we allow it to continue pretty soon you will see people being monitored until you can't wipe you *ss without them telling the world what kind of toilet paper you use. We've become a nation of such drooling control freaks that we can't see that monitoring people doesn't keep them from committing crimes. How many peds that are released actually stop their activities? Someone might know a ped lives next door - but they have no clue what he's doing when he goes to the local park, etc.

      How does a population get so stupid as to think surveillance is an answer to anything other than eventual monitoring of their own activities. Once you let them open the door to monitor people who have committed crimes, you've made it legal for them to monitor anyone for anything they want to. And still we scream for more control. Good grief.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Wright
        I just can not believe that the owners/operators of that
        website have obiously taken no expert legal advice as
        applies in the UK/EU.

        I am quite surprised that the site has not been pulled by officialdom
        already ...or that some "offender's rights" organisation has yet to
        take legal action.

        Of course, if we had a Criminal Justice system in the UK which
        actually deters and/or prevents reoffending ever again ... there
        would be no need for such sites ... or indeed any subsequent
        repeat victims"
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          The US will eventually be buried under an unmanageable "offender list" becuase of the ridiculous way it has added people to the list.

          The list should be reserved for those committing true "crimes" of pedophilia or rape - but is full of young men (do the women get listed?) who were underage or under 20 who had consensual sex with an underage partner.

          It may be a crime - but that behavior to me does not justify a lifetime of being labeled as "sexual predator".
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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            The US will eventually be buried under an unmanageable "offender list" becuase of the ridiculous way it has added people to the list.

            The list should be reserved for those committing true "crimes" of pedophilia or rape - but is full of young men (do the women get listed?) who were underage or under 20 who had consensual sex with an underage partner.

            It may be a crime - but that behavior to me does not justify a lifetime of being labeled as "sexual predator".
            Men getting too close to little girls can get them LOCKED UP BIG TIME! It seems women don't have that problem with little boys. Even if she is 40, and he is say 7.

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            • Profile picture of the author HeySal
              Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

              Men getting too close to little girls can get them LOCKED UP BIG TIME! It seems women don't have that problem with little boys. Even if she is 40, and he is say 7.

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              If an adult woman gets CAUGHT molesting a child, they get locked up just as fast as a man for it........until the kids get into the mid to upper teen years. Then society has pretty muchly always allowed this behavior in males so it's not the taboo that going after young girls is.

              And while there are women who DO commit sexual crimes, it's still more of a male crime than female crime. Females who abuse children are more likely to be nonsexually physically and emotionally abusive. Not saying that's a better way to abuse kids - any abuse is repulsive - just that male/female crimes against children differ in nature in the large majority of cases.

              I've seen in other posts where you get very wigged about differences between men and women...........do recognize the differences don't stop at sexual crimes. Men commit more than women, per capita.
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              • Profile picture of the author seasoned
                Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                If an adult woman gets CAUGHT molesting a child, they get locked up just as fast as a man for it........until the kids get into the mid to upper teen years. Then society has pretty muchly always allowed this behavior in males so it's not the taboo that going after young girls is.

                And while there are women who DO commit sexual crimes, it's still more of a male crime than female crime. Females who abuse children are more likely to be nonsexually physically and emotionally abusive. Not saying that's a better way to abuse kids - any abuse is repulsive - just that male/female crimes against children differ in nature in the large majority of cases.

                I've seen in other posts where you get very wigged about differences between men and women...........do recognize the differences don't stop at sexual crimes. Men commit more than women, per capita.
                I don't get so wigged. And many men AREN'T so physical, especially with little girls, and some women ARE! BTW females seem to tend towards emotional abuse, even if it is different from the type you may be referring to.

                As for the men vs. women, society AUTOMATICALLY makes men's complaints less likely, and the courts recognize less of what DOES get reported, so we will never know the FULL truth.

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        • Profile picture of the author glchandler
          The federal government IS not society, and does not dictate what it accepts, so saying that they "paid their dues to society" is ludicrous. If there is enough circumstantial evidence in enough cases, or they openly admit it, or it is seen by disparate groups, or they are properly convicted, such facts should be released.

          Just yesterday, I saw a series where a person was in about 3 places, and looked like an arsonist in each place. She STATED she was an arsonist. She wasn't really an arsonist, but that came out later. If *I* were king, I would have locked her up for a time and, finding she didn't appear to be a threat, maybe would let her go as long as she was in a place where she could likely not cause a problem, and I would have made it clear she was a potential arsonist. Hopefully we would have caught the REAL arsonist before then.

          THEY, in the series, hid the case, because she was a minor, and her doctor got accused of setting a fire and killing her. LUCKILY, he was a psychiatrist, knew about the problem, and could work to defend against it.

          "Pedos" have been released and, not being informed, the city let them work with little kids. In other words, they allowed them "access to areas that simplify fulfillment of their perverted desires.". They then do it ALL OVER AGAIN!
          Guess I might be the ultimate optimist, but I believe that in the representative republic form of government we have the federal government has to be society. Granted that greed and other human frailties mar the system, but society still is in the loop.

          Using "circumstantial evidence" to list someone on a list such as this is a very scary thing. Who determines how much is or isn't necessary to list the individual there? Seems as if we all might end up on someones list if circumstantial evidence is what will convict us.

          I doubt that anyone disagrees that someone is "properly convicted" then they bear watching. However, someone ending up on a sexual offender list due to a childish prank of peeing on a fire hydrant might just deserve another chance to live their life.

          The "if I were king" thoughts are scary simply due to the fact that if another were king YOU just might be locked up until you are found not to be a threat.

          HeySal's indoctrination statement is true. How much further do we need to go before we end up repeating Hitler's youth groups or Mussolini's brown shirts.

          The government should not be expected to protect all from every bump and twist on the road of life.

          Of course I want to know if an actual predatory pedophile lives next door to my granddaughter. I'm not so sure I want to know if the neighbor on the other side "streaked" the local football game as a prank and is thus marred for life as a sexual offender.

          Too many of these lists and the entire society will be suffocated by them---and we all will end up being on one list or another. Not a pleasant thought.
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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by glchandler View Post

            Guess I might be the ultimate optimist, but I believe that in the representative republic form of government we have the federal government has to be society. Granted that greed and other human frailties mar the system, but society still is in the loop.

            Using "circumstantial evidence" to list someone on a list such as this is a very scary thing. Who determines how much is or isn't necessary to list the individual there? Seems as if we all might end up on someones list if circumstantial evidence is what will convict us.
            I did say circumstantial in enough areas. And THAT wouldn't convict, but put you on a list kind of warning people. hundreds of years ago, they did worse for the same thing because they believed in curses or demons.

            I doubt that anyone disagrees that someone is "properly convicted" then they bear watching. However, someone ending up on a sexual offender list due to a childish prank of peeing on a fire hydrant might just deserve another chance to live their life.
            How is THAT a sexual offense? It may be lewd or improper, but that is IT!

            The "if I were king" thoughts are scary simply due to the fact that if another were king YOU just might be locked up until you are found not to be a threat.
            Well, others think they ARE king, and keep trying to restrict the borders in every way. at the current rate, could we even dare to feign freedom in 20 years?

            HeySal's indoctrination statement is true. How much further do we need to go before we end up repeating Hitler's youth groups or Mussolini's brown shirts.
            OH, THAT has already started! Frankly, I wouldn't want to even try that. There are too many problems.

            Of course I want to know if an actual predatory pedophile lives next door to my granddaughter. I'm not so sure I want to know if the neighbor on the other side "streaked" the local football game as a prank and is thus marred for life as a sexual offender.
            Again, I don't consider THAT sexual, in this way. Indecent exposure should be among the most minor of misdemeaners, with no record.

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    1. You mean rapists and murderers may actually be KILLED!?!?!?

    That IS a good reason. Here are some others!

    2. families and people wanting to live in peace deserve it.
    3. Felons are supposed to give up ALL rights such as those(voting, gun ownership, access to areas that simplify fulfillment of their perverted desires.). The federal government IS not society, and does not dictate what it accepts, so saying that they "paid their dues to society" is ludicrous. If there is enough circumstantial evidence in enough cases, or they openly admit it, or it is seen by disparate groups, or they are properly convicted, such facts should be released.

    Just yesterday, I saw a series where a person was in about 3 places, and looked like an arsonist in each place. She STATED she was an arsonist. She wasn't really an arsonist, but that came out later. If *I* were king, I would have locked her up for a time and, finding she didn't appear to be a threat, maybe would let her go as long as she was in a place where she could likely not cause a problem, and I would have made it clear she was a potential arsonist. Hopefully we would have caught the REAL arsonist before then.

    THEY, in the series, hid the case, because she was a minor, and her doctor got accused of setting a fire and killing her. LUCKILY, he was a psychiatrist, knew about the problem, and could work to defend against it.

    "Pedos" have been released and, not being informed, the city let them work with little kids. In other words, they allowed them "access to areas that simplify fulfillment of their perverted desires.". They then do it ALL OVER AGAIN!

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  • Profile picture of the author iVentureBiz
    Well in my mind those that commit serious crimes like that really gave up a lot of their privacy rights when they did the crime...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Blaze
    The problem i see with most of the posts here is that you are all looking to name and shame the convicted be it that they were falsely convisted or they actually did commit a crime.

    There is a shocking number of false convictions even today!

    Even worse the people who are falsely convicted and serve time or are punished in some 'legal' form get left with that for life on their record and in their mind.... nothing can remove that.

    If you don't even get to the conviction stage or to the final court room and are still arrested and charged then you have to wait 5 or so years to maybe get your DNA taken off the system.

    Oh and even when found innocent unless the person who made the false claim against you has done this several times in the past nothing happens to them! Surely they should be named and shamed to protect everyone else?

    Most of your responses are typical from people who have never seen the system in practice or even worse been in the system yourselves.... trust me its nothing like on tv!

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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas
    Originally Posted by Bitethehand View Post

    Ive heard about the pediatrician that was attacked by a lynch mob.
    There may be a very good case to be made for the post-release tracking of paedophiles and other sex offenders by the police (and most, if not every police force in the world likely does exactly that), but I believe publicising their whereabouts causes more problems than it solves.

    For example, although I'm in Ireland, British media broadcasts were, and still are, easy to pick up on the east coast here: I remember what could only be described as media-driven mass hysteria about paedophiles over there in the late 90s/early 00s. Apparently, there were padeophiles hiding under everyone's bed just waiting to grab their kids when they weren't looking. One particular newspaper named-and-shamed hundreds (or was it thousands?) of them. The result? The (truly extraordinary) case of the attack on the home of the above-mentioned pediatrician (who, btw, was a woman). Many completely innocent men being attacked by mobs, who mistook them for those named by the paper. At least one case of a man walking free from Court after being publically named. And complaints from police that many investigations had been totally destroyed by the action. (And, of course, a lot more newspapers sold.)
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    • Profile picture of the author glchandler
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      Originally Posted by glchandler
      Guess I might be the ultimate optimist, but I believe that in the representative republic form of government we have the federal government has to be society. Granted that greed and other human frailties mar the system, but society still is in the loop.

      Using "circumstantial evidence" to list someone on a list such as this is a very scary thing. Who determines how much is or isn't necessary to list the individual there? Seems as if we all might end up on someones list if circumstantial evidence is what will convict us.

      I did say circumstantial in enough areas. And THAT wouldn't convict, but put you on a list kind of warning people. hundreds of years ago, they did worse for the same thing because they believed in curses or demons.

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      I doubt that anyone disagrees that someone is "properly convicted" then they bear watching. However, someone ending up on a sexual offender list due to a childish prank of peeing on a fire hydrant might just deserve another chance to live their life.
      How is THAT a sexual offense? It may be lewd or improper, but that is IT!

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      The "if I were king" thoughts are scary simply due to the fact that if another were king YOU just might be locked up until you are found not to be a threat.
      Well, others think they ARE king, and keep trying to restrict the borders in every way. at the current rate, could we even dare to feign freedom in 20 years?

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      HeySal's indoctrination statement is true. How much further do we need to go before we end up repeating Hitler's youth groups or Mussolini's brown shirts.
      OH, THAT has already started! Frankly, I wouldn't want to even try that. There are too many problems.

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      Of course I want to know if an actual predatory pedophile lives next door to my granddaughter. I'm not so sure I want to know if the neighbor on the other side "streaked" the local football game as a prank and is thus marred for life as a sexual offender.
      Again, I don't consider THAT sexual, in this way. Indecent exposure should be among the most minor of misdemeaners, with no record.
      I guess I will start with your circumstantial evidence leading to being placed on a list. Hopefully we, as society, have gone beyond the witch hunts of yesteryear. If these lists were again launched, then where would be draw the line regarding the areas of life these list represent? Again---each of us would be on somebody's list and spend much of our time looking over our shoulders.

      My statements re: peeing on fire hydrants were drawn from an earlier post by Mike, stating that action was a crime of sexual nature in Florida. How many other localities/states is this a sex crime?

      You last statement re: indecent exposure should be a minor or misdemeanor type crime puts this is perspective...

      I think this whole thread relates that many sex offenses that are committed should NOT cause the perp to suffer a lifetime of harassment by being a registered sex offender.

      ---Peeing on the hydrant
      ---an 18 year old continuing to sleep with his longtime girlfriend just days after his birthday (and days prior to hers) that constitutes statutory rape
      ---camera pictures being passed around the internet.

      There are many minor crimes like this and while society should watch and protect our children and young adults we cannot always be chicken little claiming the sky is falling!

      Over protection can easily cause as much harm as under protection.

      And, no---I am not on any of these lists!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    Does anyone here use filesharing programs to download the occasional video?

    Then you are a danger to society if someone decides to swap a video with the word milf with kiddies and you haven't got a leg to stand on, regardless of whether you immediately removed it.

    This is a case from America I debated recently on my forums:

    Man Downloads Child Porn "Accidentally," Faces Up To 20 Years in Prison

    Now, I am all for real sex offenders who offend with intent to get sent away, but this psychotic paranoia of the recent decade does far more harm than good.

    In America there was a campaign called "stranger danger", it did far more harm than good due to not actually telling kids what they need to know.

    http://www.life123.com/parenting/you...-message.shtml

    Being vigilant is one thing and can be good, being overly paranoid just because a man genuinely calling his dog that has run off is quite another.

    There have been a great deal of news stories like the one shared above about the doctor who was beaten half to death because of idiots who do not know the meaning of the word "paeditrician" yet it is this mob mentality that fuels it. Watch any television show or even news channel in the world when something liek that on, they glorify the mob instinct and applaud the young pricks who showboat and throw a brick at someone...pricks who otherwise would get no other "respect" from decent, law abiding people.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      In America there was a campaign called "stranger danger", it did far more harm than good due to not actually telling kids what they need to know.
      Every now and then on the news you will hear of a stranger trying to get a child to get in their car. Normally the child runs because they know "stranger danger", but.
      In every case of child molestation that makes the news here, the child already knew the predator.
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  • Profile picture of the author Home Easy Earn
    I always thought that the reason people were put in prison was to punish then. If they serve their sentence and undo retraining then I htink they have the right to make ammends and try and get their life back on track.

    If you are going to continue to to harras or label someone after thay have done their punishment then we are verging on the edge of revenge rather than punishment. I know someone that has to sign the sex offender list, his crime, he picked up a girl ata local pub one night went back to hers and was arrested 4 months later becuase she was only 15. So is he a sex offender or not, but he could end up on sites like - Name and shame website. Child abuse, paedophiles, rapists, murder, knife crime.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sparhawke
    Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

    Every now and then on the news you will hear of a stranger trying to get a child to get in their car. Normally the child runs because they know "stranger danger", but.
    In every case of child molestation that makes the news here, the child already knew the predator.
    This was pointed out best in Criminal Minds: What fresh hell, when Dr Spencer Reed starts monologuing the dangers of shifting all paranoia onto people that are unknown rather than equipping kids with what they should know about the people closest to them who in fact commit 95% of all abuse crimes.

    Originally Posted by gaz59 View Post

    I always thought that the reason people were put in prison was to punish then. If they serve their sentence and undo retraining then I htink they have the right to make ammends and try and get their life back on track.

    If you are going to continue to to harras or label someone after thay have done their punishment then we are verging on the edge of revenge rather than punishment. I know someone that has to sign the sex offender list, his crime, he picked up a girl ata local pub one night went back to hers and was arrested 4 months later becuase she was only 15. So is he a sex offender or not, but he could end up on sites like - Name and shame website. Child abuse, paedophiles, rapists, murder, knife crime.
    This is the problem in England especially, with drinking in pubs by girls as young as 13-14 any man could pick them up and ruin their life when they are in fact innocent, all they are guilty of is chatting up a pretty girl who SHOULD NOT have been there in the first place.

    I personally think that the girls who are doing that and get caught out should go to jail themselves, they are breaking the law yet everyone ignores that...or simply make mandatory ID checks for all, or fine $5000 if one is a false.

    I do think paedophiles have to be monitored, maybe with a mandatory microchip but I think anyone who is putting up a site liek this is guilty of instigating what could in effect become a witch hunt based solely on the whim of someonewho holds a grudge, and we all know how well that worked out for Salem don't we?
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  • Profile picture of the author Infinite Shades of Grey
    A few years ago, I'm ashamed to admit I probably would have been Mr. Gung-Ho Hang 'Em High. Then I got to see how the legal system actually works. To be polite, it was a hell of an education. What did I learn?

    * Cops are bullies * Prosecutors don't give a damn about 'justice', they all want a 'win' for their record * Judges can impose their prejudice at will (and they're really just scumbag lawyers in black robes)

    Yes, there are some very evil people who commit monstrous acts of depravity, there's also a shocking number of people who are falsely accused and wrongly convicted.

    The "name and shame" book is a horrible idea.
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