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False Positive on a Drug Test?

by Emily Meeks
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Thread deleted, no false positive. Thanks everyone.
  • Profile picture of the author InternetMarketingIQ
    Take fewer bong hits?

    Who knows. Why are you worried so much if you haven't been taking anything?

    Employers take time to hire.
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    • Profile picture of the author glchandler
      The few times I have interviewed for jobs in the last couple of years I get the OPPOSITE effect. For a few reasons I take morphine daily (both sulfate and hcl) as well as oxycodone!

      When I as scheduled for test-----they have YET to take the prescription first. I must always test positive and then, generally, must fax current prescription to the lab.

      Always has seemed a worthless step---but I guess that is what the lab gets paid for!
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      • Profile picture of the author Emily Meeks
        Originally Posted by glchandler View Post

        The few times I have interviewed for jobs in the last couple of years I get the OPPOSITE effect. For a few reasons I take morphine daily (both sulfate and hcl) as well as oxycodone!

        When I as scheduled for test-----they have YET to take the prescription first. I must always test positive and then, generally, must fax current prescription to the lab.

        Always has seemed a worthless step---but I guess that is what the lab gets paid for!
        Bizarre.

        I never thought anything of drug tests until I read about OTC meds screwing with your results, then how unreliable they may be in general... gah.

        Ibuprofen's apparently known to mess with results, but not oxycodone? *shakes head*
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        • Profile picture of the author Sleaklight
          Originally Posted by moneysoapbox View Post

          Bizarre.

          I never thought anything of drug tests until I read about OTC meds screwing with your results, then how unreliable they may be in general... gah.

          Ibuprofen's apparently known to mess with results, but not oxycodone? *shakes head*
          I take prescription strenght ibuprofen daily because of my lingering back pain from surgery a pair of years ago and I do get false positive drug test results as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author Emily Meeks
      Originally Posted by InternetMarketingIQ View Post

      Take fewer bong hits?

      Who knows. Why are you worried so much if you haven't been taking anything?

      Employers take time to hire.
      Never touched one in my life, see above >

      EDIT: Fewer bong hits than zero... what constitutes as a negative number of hits?
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Surely you know the name of the company you applied for? Call their main switchboard and ask to speak with the Human Resources department. It's possible they just got behind a few days - it's also possible that you flunked the test for some reason, but they have to TELL you that.

    You should have discussed if there were anything you could not eat before testing, such as poppy seeds or chocolate - but they should also be telling you that stuff.
    Instead of just sweating about it - call them.
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    • Profile picture of the author glchandler
      Ibuprofen's apparently known to mess with results, but not oxycodone? *shakes head*
      Yea the oxycodone has always puzzled me "WHY" but now I just stay away from employment! Lots better!
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      • Profile picture of the author Emily Meeks
        Originally Posted by glchandler View Post

        Yea the oxycodone has always puzzled me "WHY" but now I just stay away from employment! Lots better!
        More motivation to succeed in this business > No more drug tests!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    When an employer does drug tests, your test is generally processed in a group. They dont do one test at a time (generally) because it saves money to do 10-15 at a time. Many times they will do whats called a 'combo' test where they take a small sample from each cup, put them all together and test that mix. If that mix comes up with no positives, the whole batch goes through. This saves time and money. If the mix comes up with a 'hit' then each individual sample is tested to find out who the big winner is. When that happens the results for each individual generally take more time.
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  • Profile picture of the author ThomM
    Originally Posted by ProductCreator View Post

    Why not phone the interviewing company and ask them what is going on?

    They will have the power to press the testing company. After all, the hiring company is a client of the testing company and can always switch testers if they're not happy with the speed and quality of service.

    Shame they had to test you in the first place. From what I hear, this is extremely common in the US? And yet it is more likely to catch an occasional MJ user than a regular hard drugs user.
    Yep very common here. Funny thing is they only catch those few people left who don't know how to beat it, or people who never did drugs with a false positive which is very common.
    My last wife worked at a place that drug tested as part of the hiring process. When I picked her up from her first night at work she told me how at lunch time about 75% of the employee's where out in their cars getting high.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    There are a lot of things that will give a false positive. Ibuprophen and poppy seeds are usually the most common. A muffin with poppy seeds for breakfast will usually do you in.

    You can buy lots of different drinks that will flush you out and they work on most job and state urinalysis test......atleast thats what i heard
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    They sell KITS to pass these things. I only had ONE client to be request such a test. I forget WHY they tested, but I ended up working elsewhere.

    They EVEN check the temperature of urine to determine if it is legit.

    BTW what Michael Motley heard is wrong. They often test for concentration, so dilution WILL NOT necessarily WORK. And some drugs metabolize slowly, so liquids won't flush them out of your system. the labs are trying to counter all the old tricks.

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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    In this financial climate a very common test an employer will give, is the call back test. An easy way to thin out competitors for a job is to see who calls back to ask for it. It's a "how bad do you want it" kind of test. Not always good for finding the best employee, but an easy way to narrow the decision.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenThompson
    And to add more intrigue to this, some tests are targeted to
    metabolized by-products of certain drugs. So if the original
    bad guy is known to be out of your system in a certain amount
    of time, the metabolized by-products that are specific to the
    bad guys are still there to be detected.

    So they ping on the metabolized by-products and conclude,
    "Yes, you're a drug addict."

    Cool, huh?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    It seems to me that the logical way to end false positives would be to do drugs.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      They sell KITS to pass these things.
      When the company I worked for re-opened a year after Katrina - a lot of people who used those kits got fooled.

      The company did a three month hair test...oops.

      After random drug tests it's not unusual to hear one person telling another "I used that kit and they caught me anyway".

      I'd just call and ask what their hiring schedule is and ask where you are in that process - wouldn't mention the drug test as I doubt that has anything to do with it. Some companies get everything done and then are slow to do the hiring.

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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        When the company I worked for re-opened a year after Katrina - a lot of people who used those kits got fooled.

        The company did a three month hair test...oops.

        After random drug tests it's not unusual to hear one person telling another "I used that kit and they caught me anyway".
        I said it only to show that there are enough tests that there is a market for things to TRY to defeat them. I checked them out once. The SIMPLE ones just store urine. The more complicated ones provide things like heaters, concealed delivery, etc... In short, the less risky products cost more. Like I said though, the labs find ways to defeat them, etc....

        I only had one test though, have taken FEW prescription drugs, and NEVER took illegal drugs. So I certainly don't have any reason to buy these kits to try to defeat drug tests.

        BTW I don't think many things show up in hair samples. Besides, if they did, that would be a pretty foolproof way to test.

        BTW anyone ever see gattaca? Gattaca (1997)

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        • Profile picture of the author Lawrh
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post


          BTW I don't think many things show up in hair samples. Besides, if they did, that would be a pretty foolproof way to test.

          Steve
          Hair sample testing is almost foolproof for cocaine. It is not good at all for general drug testing. It is excellent for testing for heavy metal poisoning, but I doubt many people use antimony or arsenic to get stoned.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            With hair testing you can't beat the test by staying off drugs for a week or two - and it tests for the drugs that are the most harmful to have workers on.

            I'd say it's pretty efficient - we lost a lot of dealers to that test when we re-opened and all admitted the test was accurate - and none of them had been previously caught by the random urine tests.

            One of the people fired told me she had used a "special" shampoo - and that it obviously it didn't work.

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          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post


          BTW I don't think many things show up in hair samples. Besides, if they did, that would be a pretty foolproof way to test.
          Hair testing is more accurate, but it's much more expensive.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mili_D
    I think your reading in to this way too much, there could numbers of reason why they have not called you yet, and all these reason could lead to the fact that they could be UN organised like most companies and lost the results. If there was anything to worry about they would of called back! what's the big deal just Google them on the net and call them up if you can't remember there number! Most likely they would just turn around and say apologise for the delay in calling you back. End of the day all this fuss for a pat time job is it really worth the stress.
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    • Profile picture of the author glchandler
      I think your reading in to this way too much, there could numbers of reason why they have not called you yet, and all these reason could lead to the fact that they could be UN organised like most companies and lost the results. If there was anything to worry about they would of called back! what's the big deal just Google them on the net and call them up if you can't remember there number! Most likely they would just turn around and say apologise for the delay in calling you back. End of the day all this fuss for a pat time job is it really worth the stress.
      And possibly this is a chance to interact with acquaintances at the Off Topic and share a few concerns, frustrations and joy of day to day internet life? If there is stress this surely will help dissipate it.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Hair testing can be inaccurate according to the color of hair you have. I can't remember what the order of this is - either light or dark hair stores more.....grey, almost nothing. So much so that there was a court case on discrimination - might be going on and might have been done with, don't know what happened to it. It doesn't effect me so I really never followed the events on that one.
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    • Profile picture of the author garyv
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Hair testing can be inaccurate according to the color of hair you have.
      That's because when they tried to give the blond the test, she said that she didn't study for it.
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