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by glchandler
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaleniie Devi
    Omg I don't think I've seen this many roads ever in my life! But then again, the furthest I've been is Australia. I can't wait to go to LA now
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Ryans
    Yikes is right!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      You could be lost on that thing for 5 years.

      Well, may not you - but I would be.

      When I moved to Atlanta I used to take off in the car every day and drive in one direction or another. I'd find all sorts of places I'd read about or heard of on the news. When I got ready to go home, I'd stop somewhere and ask for directions back to Roswell. Worked for me and I learned my around that city quickly.

      I'd never find a place in LA to ask for directions

      kay
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    I am only surprised someone was able to shoot a picture that doesn't show the smog. They must have photoshopped it out? You can see the yellow cloud starting early in the morning.

    I spent a day there once and I got conjunctivitis - My eyes were as red as tomatoes.

    Whatta mess.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Good point, Pat - I didn't know they had clear days there!
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Patrician View Post

      I am only surprised someone was able to shoot a picture that doesn't show the smog. They must have photoshopped it out? You can see the yellow cloud starting early in the morning.

      I spent a day there once and I got conjunctivitis - My eyes were as red as tomatoes.

      Whatta mess.
      Actually, I haven't seen a significant amount of smog there for a while. There used to be NO standards, and public vehicles were all gas/diesel, and in POOR condition. NOW, they have LOTS of standards, and a lot of alternative vehicles.

      Steve
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Damn kids....I told them to stop taking pictures of my driveway and
        plastering them all over the Internet.
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        • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Damn kids....I told them to stop taking pictures of my driveway and
          plastering them all over the Internet.
          And all your wife asked for, was for you to get the driveway repaved.

          You really got into that "overdeliver" thing didn't you?
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  • Profile picture of the author Audrey Harvey
    That is astounding! Kay, I'm with you - they'd never find me. I once went around a big roundabout three times before I found my exit, and there were only four roads off the roundabout!! LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lawrh
    The spaghetti method of highway engineering. How could that possibly be planned? They must just say "let's add this" then do it. Amazingly engineered madness.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Most places in LA county are nowhere NEAR that bad!
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  • Profile picture of the author BethHewitt
    Hey People,

    That picture scared the heebiejeebies out of me, I though the UK was bad for roundabouts, it looks like a giant scalectrix that I would undoubtedly fall off.

    Beth :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    That's actually a pretty organized monster - even though a monster. They did much better than the guys that planned that snarl that goes through Denver. I drove that one several times when I lived in CO - but went back a couple of years ago and freaked. I just got in the center lane and got the heck out of that town - it had turned into such a gigantic cluster of madness that I didn't even want to stop. An hour and a half to drive through it at 60! Worse - I could smell it a half hour before I got there!

    All seeing crap like that does for me is want to legislate forced sterilization of 90% of our population. When places get that crowded it's time to stop and ask ourselves WTF exactly we are thinking.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Um...Steve...I hate to tell you this.......but when they said traffic...they meant clicks to your website...you don't really WANT all that traffic to your brick and terra door.
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    • Profile picture of the author glchandler
      Most places in LA county are nowhere NEAR that bad!
      Understand that very well, and also realize that many places in the mountains are not this good>>>




      BUT...I also know which place will lower your blood pressure and which one won't!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by glchandler View Post

        Understand that very well, and also realize that many places in the mountains are not this good>>>




        BUT...I also know which place will lower your blood pressure and which one won't!

        Now THIS is a mountain...Longs Peak.

        I see it when I look at my front window, unless it's snowing on the mountain, which is usual this time of year.


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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Now THIS is a mountain...Longs Peak.

          I see it when I look at my front window, unless it's snowing on the mountain, which is usual this time of year.

          Climbed that one in 92, Kurt- 13,000 something. Pic makes it look small.
          So - when was the last time you stood on top of that puppy? Spring is coming!
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            Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

            Climbed that one in 92, Kurt- 13,000 something. Pic makes it look small.
            So - when was the last time you stood on top of that puppy? Spring is coming!
            Actually, Longs Peak is about 14,250.

            I'll probably go to the top once Trail Ridge Road opens, sometime after Memorial Day, and drive up.

            Trail Ridge Road was once the highest paved road in the World. I don't think it is any more though, but it's still "up there". On the other side of Longs Peak is Grand Lake...As the "crow flies", Grand Lake is about 7 miles from where I live...But it's a 54 mile drive because of all the "switchbacks" to get over the mountain...(Assuming the road is open, and it's only open a few months a year due to weather.)

            Every sping thaw we'll find a few flatlanders that weren't paying attention to the road and took the "quick way" down. Have to wait until the snow melts before we can find them. LOL

            This time of year I can rarely see it, even though it's only a few miles away...It's always snowing up there and is usually covered with dark gray clouds.
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            • Profile picture of the author Kurt
              If anyone's interested, this pic from wikikpedia was taken less than a mile from where I live...If you follow the mountain to the very left of the picture, you can kind of see a snow-covered mountain in the background, that's the bottom corner of Longs Peak.

              PS...I swear the elk around here come to a street and look both ways before crossing, they're so conditioned to people and traffic.

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        • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Now THIS is a mountain...Longs Peak.

          I see it when I look at my front window, unless it's snowing on the mountain, which is usual this time of year.
          Um...you have any rooms to rent?

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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Um...Steve...I hate to tell you this.......but when they said traffic...they meant clicks to your website...you don't really WANT all that traffic to your brick and terra door.
      Great... NOW you tell me.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Dang,
        I would live and die on that monstrocity, I'd never get off!

        I'll stick with rural small town MI USA

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  • Profile picture of the author BricknMortar
    Welcome to southern california - just remember when in doubt - go south until you hit Mexico then it's easy - - it's all North.
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    • Profile picture of the author glchandler
      Now THIS is a mountain...Longs Peak.

      I see it when I look at my front window, unless it's snowing on the mountain, which is usual this time of year
      Agreed. But we have to remember that the Sierra is just a baby mountain range and has many years left to grow in their big brothers shadow!

      In other words...I'm jealous and curious---how do you ever get any work done when you have that to look at?
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  • Profile picture of the author trevor75
    Oh Los Angeles isnt that bad, I lived there for a quit a while, the beaches are really nice! ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
    I just HAVE to get back out that way sometime...that's a beautiful part of our country.
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    This is what I see out my back window in what VegasVince calls "Cold Ass Wisconsin"
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Wow Kurt - Longs is a 14er? Didn't FEEL that high. I think Evans or Pike's Peak is now the highest road. I climbed Pikes - but Drove Evans. Princeton and Antero I climbed. Somehow I remembered that James Peak and Long's were the same size.

    Grand Lake is where I used to spend 4th of July every year. I miss that place, too. Wonderful 4ths.

    I'm with Mike - got rooms for rent?
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Wow Kurt - Longs is a 14er? Didn't FEEL that high. I think Evans or Pike's Peak is now the highest road. I climbed Pikes - but Drove Evans. Princeton and Antero I climbed. Somehow I remembered that James Peak and Long's were the same size.

      Grand Lake is where I used to spend 4th of July every year. I miss that place, too. Wonderful 4ths.

      I'm with Mike - got rooms for rent?

      Hey Sal and All,

      I need a nap...Trail Ridge Road goes over Mt Evans, not Longs Peak...They're both about the same altitude and just a few miles from me. Mt Evans is probably even more impressive than Longs Peak.

      I used to live in Grand Lake when I was younger, early 20s. It's amazing how much worse the winters are on that side of the divide. Grand Lake may get 2 feet of snow and we'll barely get an inch or two sometimes on this side of the mountain.

      Mt Evans:


      Here's a shot of Trail Ridge Road going over Mt. Evans:



      Here's a pic in Rocky Mountain Nat. Park, which is also in the "neighborhood":

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  • Profile picture of the author mawhitney
    Thanks for the post. Now I can rule out Los Angeles as a city to move to. I'll stick with Denver. I love it's mountains.

    -Mike
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      You guys are so lucky who live in the mountains.

      Only thing you can see in NJ is garbage dumps.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        You guys are so lucky who live in the mountains.

        Only thing you can see in NJ is garbage dumps.
        They must be pushing 10,000 feet by now. Not too shabby for the East Coast...
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      • Profile picture of the author Lawrh
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        You guys are so lucky who live in the mountains.

        Only thing you can see in NJ is garbage dumps.
        You have reliable income, why not move to the mountains? Although I hear that parts of NJ are very beautiful, you could move there.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

        You guys are so lucky who live in the mountains.

        Only thing you can see in NJ is garbage dumps.
        Well,, CA has so many lawyers, and NJ has so many dumps, because NJ got to pick FIRST!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mili_D
    Los Angeles looks crazy could you image the crazy traffic that you will have to deal with! Your rite lawrhi i'm with you on this one, moving to the mountains and relaxing your life away in total peace is a good idea.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Kurt - Evans seems twice the size of Longs just because of the way it ascends. That's why I never tried to hike it. I lived right down the road from that one about 12 miles
    Grand Lake isn't quite as bad as Frazier just south of it. They call the the Nation's ice box for a reason. There are other places that are worse, of course, but if you are used to Colorado it's a shocker how the temps drop when you drive through Frazier.

    There's a place in ID that looks just like that stretch from Frazier to Grand Lake - trying to get positioned to be able to live up there - getting a Jeep tomorrow, so that's one step toward it. I'd love to be back in CO - but it's gotten so freaking expensive I'd never afford it on my own. That's okay though because I love the politicians we have here in Idaho right now and love the land so I'll stick around for awhile other than visits elsewhere.
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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      ugh...I'm glad I'm no longer living in a big city...

      I love mountains and lakes...we don't have mountains here...but we do have lakes...and lots and lots of vineyards...hic!:p
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Kurt - Evans seems twice the size of Longs just because of the way it ascends. That's why I never tried to hike it. I lived right down the road from that one about 12 miles
      Grand Lake isn't quite as bad as Frazier just south of it. They call the the Nation's ice box for a reason. There are other places that are worse, of course, but if you are used to Colorado it's a shocker how the temps drop when you drive through Frazier.

      There's a place in ID that looks just like that stretch from Frazier to Grand Lake - trying to get positioned to be able to live up there - getting a Jeep tomorrow, so that's one step toward it. I'd love to be back in CO - but it's gotten so freaking expensive I'd never afford it on my own. That's okay though because I love the politicians we have here in Idaho right now and love the land so I'll stick around for awhile other than visits elsewhere.
      I used to live in Frazier, too, when I was younger. Had to hitchhike to work at Winter Park.

      Frazier Cold? LOL....I only lived there one winter, but the coldest I saw was -45F. People have to "plug in" their cars so they don't freeze...It's much nicer on this side of Mt. Evans.
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    • Profile picture of the author glchandler
      There's a place in ID that looks just like that stretch from Frazier to Grand Lake - trying to get positioned to be able to live up there - getting a Jeep tomorrow, so that's one step toward it
      Approximate location? I let a pending ski resort on a mountain I could see out my dining room window chase me out of Northern California and now I can't find anywhere else like that that I can afford!

      And now the ski resort has run out of money and will be years in future! I guess grass is not always greener. NE Oregon...Sawtooth Mts around Stanley and area north of Spokane (maybe even Priest River) are attractive with just a few more $$$ in our jeans.

      Nothing really wrong with S. Oregon for most but way too many people and rain here for a snow-freak!
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Motley
    Originally Posted by glchandler View Post

    Some days I don't even have to wonder why I never want to go to Los Angeles!
    That will be tampa in another 10-15 years
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Ok, since we are showing scenery from where we live, and I have nothing except deer romping around in the deep snow like dogs, in my yard from just about every window...

      Does anyone live by a warm coast with a beautiful view of the ocean and sand? Perhaps some beautiful flowers? Palm trees? Anything tropical?

      Sure would make my day!

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        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        Ok, since we are showing scenery from where we live, and I have nothing except deer romping around in the deep snow like dogs, in my yard from just about every window...

        Does anyone live by a warm coast with a beautiful view of the ocean and sand? Perhaps some beautiful flowers? Palm trees? Anything tropical?

        Sure would make my day!

        Terra
        How about a fake pink flamingo standing by a fake palm tree?
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          Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

          How about a fake pink flamingo standing by a fake palm tree?
          Ok, at this point, I'll take it!

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    Where's the traffic?!!! I don't think I've ever seen LA freeways that empty. Except maybe when the cops were following OJ...
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    • Profile picture of the author glchandler
      Where's the traffic?!!! I don't think I've ever seen LA freeways that empty. Except maybe when the cops were following OJ...
      Isn't photoshop fantastic!
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