Girls on my list are hot...

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Guys,

I was just going through the responses for a survey in my niche. I wanted to know what my subscribers want so that I can give it to them.

I've gotten about 35 responses. I'm wondering is that enough... Because there are only 3-5 big problems in the niche that require to be addressed.

I will continue to add responses. But is it a green signal for me to go ahead and create an autoresponse funnel and bonuses based on these 3-5 big problems. The same problems are outlined in the product's webpages.

And as far the girls on my list are hot.,, here goes..

Yes the women on my list are hot.

My niche is targetted mainly towards women and they have certain problems...

And I was just reading the responses and survey monkey popped their full name and email. So I googled it and found their facebook names.

I gotta tell you... THEY ARE HOT... There were some chicks who were so hot that I had never seen them in real life. And I'm helping them...

That's kinda awesome. If they knew that the person helping them was not a woman, but an intelligent 17 year old... what would they do?

Regards,
Tyler

PS: Replace hot with beautiful...
#girls #hot #list
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    "hot - girls - chicks"

    If they knew that the person helping them was not a woman, but an intelligent 17 year old... what would they do?
    I think if any of them see this post - they'd be disgusted at your comments and not interested in your "help".

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    • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      "hot - girls - chicks"



      I think if any of them see this post - they'd be disgusted at your comments and not interested in your "help".

      kay

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  • Profile picture of the author Shannon Herod
    After I read about half of your post I was thinking in my head this has to be a kid or teenager.

    And then you summed that up quite nicely when he said that you're 17.

    Does it really matter how hot the people on your list are?

    What does that really have to do with marketing?

    Absolutely nothing.

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    • Profile picture of the author Saul
      Originally Posted by Shannon Herod View Post

      Does it really matter how hot the people on your list are?
      What does that really have to do with marketing?
      Absolutely nothing.
      Or does it?? What is his list about? Is it about dating advice?
      Doesn't "how you look" very much relate to dating??

      So, IF it is about dating, it could be important to know how they look: no point
      giving "ugly people chin up" advice to a bunch of real good looking people... huh?

      And given that nowadays there are ways to know what your list subscribers look
      like, should you do it?? ...ehr... I'm not really sure about that.

      It does sound a little stalky and I probably wouldn't do it, but I'm 34 y/o and I guess
      that's "old" compared to internet standards and speeds... so maybe I'm just old fashioned...
      maybe the fact the profiles are public does mean that people are allowed to see them...
      I don't know, even if I try to rationalize it.... it still sounds stalky...ish...kind of...

      If, on the other hand, his list is about how to keep a garden green (for example, or anything
      else not beauty related), then how his list subscribers look is probably a little less relevant...

      But dismissing the importance of "looks" regardless of the marketed product just because
      it's...an easy answer, is just lazy imo. Or naive. Also not necessarily the best advice either.

      But I still do think that googling customers to see what they look like (if your niche
      has nothing to do with looks) is a bit...obsessively curious? I don't know, it's probably
      just a generational gap.

      Kudos to tylerdrun for surveying your subscribers/customers though, we can at least learn
      that from this ...weird thread ;°) lol

      cheers,
      Saul

      PS. and great thread title too - hotness sells! (or so one would think looking at most ads ;°)
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        I'm sure a lot of them would be flattered but some of them might feel betrayed. Just like I would if I found out that Frank Kern was really a 70 year old grandma.
        When it comes to marketing - I don't care if the person is young enough to be my kid or old enough to be my grandmother ....if I can learn something from them.

        Seriously, though, in this case we're talking about a niche where revealing a young age and a macho focus could lose sales. I've never understood why anyone wants to recycle an ex in the first place - but this niche is full of emotionally vulnerable people. Discretion in comments would be wise.

        Better to have constructive criticism on a marketing forum than step on your tongue with your potential customers:rolleyes:

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  • Profile picture of the author n3on
    Haha. lol Throughout your post you have stressed on the Fact that the girls are HOT Kinda makes me jealous. And how can they find that the person helping them is not a Woman but a 17 yr male? You are just providing them the content they want and thats it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanman
    Originally Posted by tylerdrun View Post

    I gotta tell you... THEY ARE HOT... There were some chicks who were so hot that I had never seen them in real life. And I'm helping them...
    Never mix business with pleasure...

    Ever seen bill gates say - Oh some of my customers are real hot...

    Instead of caring about what they look like...You should rather focus on the business aspect.

    PS- Constantly studying pick up material can have two affects on you- It can either make you super wise or it can turn you into a complete girl crazy guy who can't help but drool at the very sight of an attractive woman.

    By reading some of your older posts...I can see you have gone too deep into studying pick up. But if you were to notice something...You will see that most of these folks who use pick up theories aren't really good at general aspects of life specially getting their life fixed in terms of money etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sylvia Meier
      LOL, Of course the OP is a teenage male. Too much emphasis on how they look.

      You do realize they are just people right? And that most of them are probably pretty sick of hearing males talk about them the way you are doing in your OP.

      And that if they found out you were a 17 year old male and not a female giving them advice they would drop you quite quickly because of the tendancy of teenage males to react the way you just did to their appearance.

      Just my two cents.

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  • Profile picture of the author entrepreneurjay
    lol his minds in the gutter he is only 17 cant blame him.... Bill Gates saying man their are some smoking hotties at Microsoft good thing I am the CEO lol. How funny and unprofessional would that be?

    Take everyones advice do not mix business with pleasure it will only get you in trouble...
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    Are subscribers actually real people?

    Sheesh, I gotta lie down.
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  • Profile picture of the author R Hagel
    Please refer to:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...marketing.html

    Cheers,
    Becky

    p.s. Next time, keep those thoughts about "hot girls" in your head.
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    Is it OK to think of them as cool and trendy bunches of electrons?

    Or is that weird too?

    I do gotta lie down.
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    • Profile picture of the author alextsui
      Don't be too quick to jump to conclusions when looking at Facebook profile photos. Some of the girls may not actually be girls after all... probably 45-year old male internet marketers setting up profiles just to target 17-year-old testosterone-powered teenage males like you. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelHiles
    And to think this guy is stalking.... ahem... I mean... trying to "help" these poor girls.
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  • Profile picture of the author Neil Morgan
    Oh dear, baptism of fire, WF style.

    Quick OP, post something VERY informative about internet marketing.

    Quick, before it's too late.
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  • Profile picture of the author TPFLegionaire
    Well...Ladies...I say, gives the kid a break...I am looking at what he actually did...he went and asked his list what they wanted , that is pretty smart for a marketeer and if we bring it to the plane of relationships or even just an hormonal urge, well,Taylerdrun I think you are on the right track !

    -Find out what they want , give them what they want and make sure you over deliver while you are at it

    That will keep you in good stead whether in marketing or relationships.

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  • Profile picture of the author CPA
    He's just making money with a pen name and got excited, leave him alone.
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  • Profile picture of the author mywebwork
    Forgive me, I worked all night and just got back online so maybe I'm missing something.

    What does any of this have to do with Internet Marketing? Is IM the new pickup technique now?

    :confused:

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    • Profile picture of the author CPA
      Originally Posted by mywebwork View Post

      Forgive me, I worked all night and just got back online so maybe I'm missing something.

      What does any of this have to do with Internet Marketing? Is IM the new pickup technique now?

      :confused:

      Bill
      Its called mixing business and pleasure, chill out a little. It dont always got to be strictly business.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan C. Rinnert
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      "hot - girls - chicks"



      I think if any of them see this post - they'd be disgusted at your comments and not interested in your "help".
      Or maybe they'd be impressed the Green Samurai Ranger is trying to help them.

      Originally Posted by mywebwork View Post

      Forgive me, I worked all night and just got back online so maybe I'm missing something.

      What does any of this have to do with Internet Marketing? Is IM the new pickup technique now?
      The point that everyone seems to be missing is that, if you have "hot" people on your list, you probably need to head on over to Amazon.com and create some affiliate links for air conditioners to promote to your list. Know your customers! That's the lesson here.

      I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dr Livingston
    Lol, gotta love the hormones of a 17 yr old. Cmon guys, you were the same way when you were his age. Grow and learn, grow and learn. BUT yes, follow everyone's advice on here about not mixing business with pleasure. Complicates things way too much.
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    • Profile picture of the author mcmahanusa
      You've gotten some good advice here. Keep it professional, keep your mind and writing on business. And, oh, yeah, it would most likely not be a good idea to let the target market you've mentioned know that you are a 17 year old male.

      Mixing business with pleasure works only in rare circumstances. If, for example, you're Hugh Hefner. But even Hefner isn't Hefner anymore.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Gets even funnier when you realize what is being sold is....wait for it....

        relationship advice

        They don't call it the world wide "web" for nuthin, you know:p
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    If they knew that the person helping them was not a woman, but an intelligent 17 year old... what would they do?
    Probably report you to the BBB or the FTC or some other agency.

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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    The point that everyone seems to be missing is that, if you have "hot" people on your list, you probably need to head on over to Amazon.com...

    LOL ... or maybe they are having hot flashes and they need menopause treatments
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  • Profile picture of the author LB
    And I was just reading the responses and survey monkey popped their full name and email. So I googled it and found their facebook names.

    I gotta tell you... THEY ARE HOT... There were some chicks who were so hot that I had never seen them in real life. And I'm helping them...
    Really really creepy.

    I'm sure they'd love to know you are cyber-creeping on them and then posting about it to a forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Bold
    This thread makes me laugh.

    Silly first post to begin with, but c'mon he's just 17 and it's not like he's cyber stalking, he just searched for their publicly searchable profiles on Facebook. That's about it.

    Still, what's the point? That' they're hot? Ok, great. It's kind of funny, I guess, that you're helping them. Perhaps someday when you're making a lot of money you can find some hot girls in REAL life that will dig your confidence. Until then, I'd say don't post stuff like this again as you will get the predictable responses of you're creepy and I'd report you to BBB, yada yada yada nonsense responses.

    C'mon, people, ease up a little. Not like he's adding them on Facebook and cyber stalking, or anything. Or...is he?

    He he, let's just all take a chill pill.

    And, frankly, I think a lot of women would be flattered and not "disgusted" to be called "hot" by a teenager, don't you? At least I've met some that would...
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    • Profile picture of the author Lance K
      Originally Posted by redicelander View Post

      And, frankly, I think a lot of women would be flattered and not "disgusted" to be called "hot" by a teenager, don't you? At least I've met some that would...
      Sure, some would. Hot is a bit cliche though. Better alternatives might be...stunning, breathtaking, striking, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lance K
    Originally Posted by tylerdrun View Post

    Guys,
    I was just going through the responses for a survey in my niche. I wanted to know what my subscribers want so that I can give it to them.

    I've gotten about 35 responses. I'm wondering is that enough... Because there are only 3-5 big problems in the niche that require to be addressed.

    I will continue to add responses. But is it a green signal for me to go ahead and create an autoresponse funnel and bonuses based on these 3-5 big problems. The same problems are outlined in the product's webpages.
    Well if those 3-5 big problems are your target market's hot (pun intended :p) buttons, then yes you would be wise to use them in your pre sales material.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Ames
    I regularly purge my list by matching names with FaceBook accounts and "Hot or Not' then drop everyone that is not hot. Dang it,, why did you reveal my secret to success?
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    I'm sure a lot of them would be flattered but some of them might feel betrayed. Just like I would if I found out that Frank Kern was really a 70 year old grandma.
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  • Profile picture of the author Goatboy
    For statistics, anything over 30 is usually considered a normal sample size in a random sample, but your sample is not random. Your sample group is composed of list members who are willing to answer surveys. Since this is the market you are attempting to tap, I think you are probably safe to use the 30 sampling as being reasonably representative.

    Two lessons here.

    First, if you are going to do market research on your customers don't describe them as 'hot' unless that is a required parameter of your research.

    Second, if you are going to do market research on your customers and you think they're 'hot' don't share that information publicly.

    Don't worry about it, this crew at WF will ride you a bit today and forget it by tomorrow.

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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    When it comes to marketing - I don't care if the person is young enough to be my kid or old enough to be my grandmother ....if I can learn something from them.
    Yeah, me too. I just thought it would be funny to picture if Kern was really a 70 year old grandma. But if he was I could really care less. Although I might feel a little weird that he was pretending to be something that he wasn't.

    Everyone always says that you have to develop trust with your list but can you really do that if you are taking on a different persona that's not really you? I know a lot of people use pen names and try to match the target audience to be more effective so I guess you can. I'm sure if I tried to do that I would probably screw up somehow and reveal who I really was!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Lee -

      One of the funniest reader comments I've had was from a guy responding to content on a site where I use a male pen name.

      He had a couple questions about the topic and commented that it was good to find a real man to answer such questions because he thought men understood the subject better than women. No, not viagra - it's a site in an economic niche.

      I answered the questions and signed my "real man" name.

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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    LOL - well I guess if it helps them then it is all good.

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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
    Hey, can you send me the pictures too. (Heh, Beavis.)
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