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Over the threshold.

by HeySal
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My little doggy is going to make it after all. We still have some work to do but he's over the threshold - the tumor is dissolving. It's shrinking pretty fast now. I was worried I was too late to kill his cancer, but apparently, he's got some real will and is going to be okay in awhile. He's standing firm on his leg again and even the limp is dissipating. AND - my sister has seen the care and has given him to me. When I leave, he'll be going with me.

Sometimes life is just good.
  • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
    Sal, this is great news. Give the pooch a hug for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Congratulations Sal.

    You got a blessing for being a blessing.

    We want stats (name, rank, serial number)
    We want pix (now).

    Bring it!
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    Congrats Sal! I always like to hear news like that!
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    Hug delivered, Steve. And a smooch on his little nose (knowing how you are, of course).

    Jodi - Gordon - Pat
    Pics will be taken this weekend.
    Stats and Story.
    My sister used to walk her dog out at this slew and a couple of days saw this little guy peeking out of bushes at her. The third day she took food just in case - for a few weeks she took food out with her, not sure if he was a stray or what. Finally, she took him home and cleaned him up. The vet said he was at least 4 or 5 years old. That was 6 years ago. We're not sure how old he is. He's around 50 - 60 lbs, and has coloration of a rottie, but ears like a chow and a wiry undercoat - I think he's chow and rot mix.

    All in all, he's an old boy even healthy so he won't be around more than 4 years at the max we presume and maybe only one or two -- but he won't be dying of cancer. I made him that promise the first day I saw him and everyone here was upset that I was wrongfully getting my hopes up. Well, this is one time that I am just freaking ecstatic to say "told you so".

    The experience is giving my sister some solid testimony that you never have to give up on life because of what a doctor tells you, too. You'd think she'd understand after the struggles I had with my own health - but she doesn't remember much about the asthma and wasn't around for anything else.

    Anyhow - I'll get pics soon. You guys are going to love this little character. His name is Ricky.
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  • Profile picture of the author reapr
    Heysal great news. I love taking in recycled or abandoned pets.

    Get the pics up.

    Mind asking what the vet did to bring him back to good health?
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      I remember how you took care of Munchie, so I always knew this guy was in good hands.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        I remember how you took care of Munchie, so I always knew this guy was in good hands.
        Well, he's lucky he's a dog, Thom. My sister also rescued 10 cats - the first 6 all over 16 years old somewhere - she's had to put 3 down in the last month. I couldn't do a damn thing for them. I'm starting to wonder about her vet, too. This bitch said she should put her other dog down, too -- because it has severe separation anxiety. For one thing, she doesn't - she's deathly afraid of anything that sounds like gunshot. That's not separation anxiety, and there are ways to cope with that anyhow. Sue likes her because she's affordable. I told Sue, she's affordable because she's an idiot.
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      Originally Posted by reapr View Post

      Heysal great news. I love taking in recycled or abandoned pets.

      Get the pics up.

      Mind asking what the vet did to bring him back to good health?
      The Vet wanted to either cut off his arm or just put him on pain pills til it was time to put him down. I've done the treatment myself. He gets about 8 different cancer hostile elements - occasionally more. The Vet is a bit stymied. She was a bit surprised when I had the tumor regressing -- but now she just doesn't know what to think. That's AMA training in all its full glory.
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      • Profile picture of the author reapr
        Would love to hear about what elements they are ....
        Thanks
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          Originally Posted by reapr View Post

          Would love to hear about what elements they are ....
          Thanks
          Not a problem - I listed it all on another thread earlier on when he started to respond to the treatments - wasn't sure if it was going to be strong enough to completely kick it at that time, though. One other thing that isn't on that list is that I give him 1/2 clove of crushed garlic several times a week, too - partially to ward off the voracious fleas out here, but it's a cancer eater, too. You just don't want to give a whole lot of that to a dog. Too much isn't really good for them so I keep it down to 1/2 a clove every other day at most. The rest of it you'll find most of the way down the thread that I linked below. If you have any questions - just drop a pm.

          http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...ml#post2429233
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          • Profile picture of the author reapr
            Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

            Not a problem - I listed it all on another thread earlier on when he started to respond to the treatments - wasn't sure if it was going to be strong enough to completely kick it at that time, though. One other thing that isn't on that list is that I give him 1/2 clove of crushed garlic several times a week, too - partially to ward off the voracious fleas out here, but it's a cancer eater, too. You just don't want to give a whole lot of that to a dog. Too much isn't really good for them so I keep it down to 1/2 a clove every other day at most. The rest of it you'll find most of the way down the thread that I linked below. If you have any questions - just drop a pm.

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            Garlic is good but I hear you too much can lead to anemia but great for fleas and most dogs love it. Some labs and breeds have problems with that or onions.

            I am wondering if an alkaline diet could help pets with certain forms of cancer.
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            • Profile picture of the author HeySal
              Originally Posted by reapr View Post

              Garlic is good but I hear you too much can lead to anemia but great for fleas and most dogs love it. Some labs and breeds have problems with that or onions.

              I am wondering if an alkaline diet could help pets with certain forms of cancer.
              Onion and garlic are about the same thing. I wouldn't give a dog any more onion than I would give him garlic. The trick with it is to let the system completely void it before giving more so it doesn't build up. Which is just the opposite as with the ellagic acid and turmeric, which you want a continual flow of with just a bit of a build up. I have upped him to 12 days on and 4 off with the ellagic acid and the turmeric - the lower doses were helping, but they weren't outright killing it. The 4 days off once in awhile is just to let the body rest. You have to have a 72 hour continual flow going (of a decent concentration) to start to kill any of it. It will start inhibiting vein and capillary growth at 48 hours, but unless you keep it going it will stop working. If the dog looks and acts sick after 72 hours, stop treatments for at least 48 hours to let dead cells cycle out of their bloodstream. They will get a toxic shock reaction if they get too much build up in the blood so you have to let it clear. The 4 days off now and again is just to let their body rest. I started slow and after seeing some regression, let him rest for 4 days then started knocking the snot out out of it full force for 10 days. Then he rested for 3 then I hit him hard with all I had again. Let him rest 4 days -- and now I'm hammering it. He's getting one hang of a lot of raspberry seed flour now (best source of ellagic acid) and turmeric up to 6 times in 24 hours. Bottom line .......it works.
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              • Profile picture of the author reapr
                Glad to hear its working and turmeric is a great herb. I am more familiar with it as an anti inflammation agent and it does real well there for people and pets.

                There is still a lot to learn about using food and herbs to help a pet reclaim their health instead of resorting to more drastic procedures that may actually shorten life.

                This thread is enlightening and just shows that a pet can return to a state of heath that would not be possible with standard VET care.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Turmeric is a great herb. Cucurium, the active ingredient, also fixes damaged DNA and collagen. I use it for my skin, especially since I believe in LOTS of sunshine, not just a small dose for the VD3. Cucurium is really hard to absorb so you have to take it with black pepper. Can't remember the name of the substance in the pepper off the top of my head, but it increases absorption of that and a lot of other elements, too. For Ellagic acid I use raspberry seed flour which is the most concentrated form and I always make sure he gets a pepper-corn with that, too. And a spoon or two of yogurt or cottage cheese with ground flax. Some stuff won't absorb without fat either.

    Vets are tied to the pharm rule just like regular doctors are. If you are close enough friends with one they might tell you not to feed your dog fluoridated water - but you will likely not hear one say so on their own. If you ask a pointed enough question, sometimes, if they even know, they will answer it.
    There are naturopathic Vets cropping up here and there now though - yay. I used to get Munchie tested for immunity before I'd give him shots by one. If he was immune, no shot - if not he'd get the shot. The yearly thing is way over doing it and can kill your dog real young. Nobody needs a yearly dose of mercury and antifreeze. I had a paper signed by the vet that stated immunity so I could get him tagged without the shot. Probably why my dogs outlive their life-spans.

    It's interesting stuff alright. It's taken me 35 years to get the understanding level I'm at now, though. LOL. Nothing better to do I guess.
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      The yearly thing is way over doing it and can kill your dog real young. Nobody needs a yearly dose of mercury and antifreeze. I had a paper signed by the vet that stated immunity so I could get him tagged without the shot. Probably why my dogs outlive their life-spans.

      It's interesting stuff alright. It's taken me 35 years to get the understanding level I'm at now, though. LOL. Nothing better to do I guess.
      Sal, you are right on the mark there. About 10 years ago I had problems with my dog's re-occurring ear infections (yeast). I had a very long conversation with a VA I met. She breeds horses and dogs on her farm. She told me the dogs get the exact same amount of the rabies serum that her full grown horses get. That was certainly an eye-opener. From that point on, I only got her shots every 4 years. We are required to have them vaccinated every year by law. We do not have to get a yearly tag.....not yet!
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    We have yearly vac laws, too, Jodi. Licensing, too - and I had to go to court once over it because they refused to give me tags without the vaccine, yet I showed them proof of immunity. I won but it was a complete hassle.
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    • Profile picture of the author waterotter
      Worth the fight though Sal. I neglected to mention, the VA told me the rabies vaccine was good for 4 yrs. The vet will not tell you this as it's a money grab for them. I believe they are just now beginning to introduce a vaccine that is good for 4 yrs (here in Canada).
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    There's a 3 year vaccine in the US, Jodi - and I believe you can get dog tags for 3 now too because of it. After about 2 or 3 of them though, the dog should just be immune. The requirement of anything more is just money. I would never advocate anything other than vaccinating to immunity for something as dangerous as rabies - but think that once there is the immunity the shots need to stop. Here in the US, our whole medical industry (yep, it's an industry) is owned by the pharms - has been since the 1800's sometime. It's one of the biggest deceits ever pulled on this earth. With the technology we have now, an independent health field could really be working wonders beyond wonders. There are so many cures that are just bought out, hushed up, and "disappeared", that it is staggering. If you stay on top of the medical patents for awhile and see some of what is going on that you never see spoken of anywhere - other than that the patent was bought, it would frighten you pretty badly. Our pets are subjected to the same industry. Reason 101 to learn to do it yourself.
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