Would you like to live like a backpacker

15 years ago

How does paragraph 1 (reference to what is usually a rather solitary to travel relate to the drunken part in paragraph 2?

I love staying in little out of the way places but never thought of backpacking other than hiking on a trail for a day or weekend. For a long haul, the packs would fairly heavy - and I'm not that big. After a few miles I'd probably just fall on my face and stay there:p

I've never liked huge drunken parties no matter what they are called. I've done some crazy things alone or with a couple friends - but you lose control in a crowd that size. I don't drink enough to find drunks entertaining - and it's been that way since I was 16 or so.

The last time I really laughed at a drunk was when we tossed my friend Jeff (who was toast) into the back of a pickup and drove through the car wash.

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manahei

15 years ago

LOL! I had those times...Ibiza, Burning Man, and so on. I so prefer now being the guy with deep pockets bringing dirty/hairy but insanely hot rave girls back to the hotel for a shower and shave down before the anejo and ecstasy is fed to them. My boys and I burn fire and watch DVDs of live death metal under the red lights while waiting for the fresh gasheesh to suddenly realize that daddy did love her and mommy needs a hug. So we end up passing out... See you in Phuket!

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ThomM 15 years ago

Now tell us what you think! How old is too old for this?

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derekwong28

15 years ago

I would guess that most of those there are low budget singles travellers rather than true backpackers as the video claimed. But Koh Phangnan is definitely a well known backpacker's paradise. It is really not that easy to get there and therefore not popular with families.

The culture of sun, sea, booze and sex is no different from what you get in beach resorts in Spain and Greece. The British are voted to be the worst behaved of all toursists in Europe.

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pjCheviot

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Again I am sorry if anyone was offended but this is not meant to be a serious thread. I just want everybody to have some fun and loosen up.

To me, Derek, it got serious when you said this . . .

Originally Posted by derekwong28

The culture of sun, sea, booze and sex is no different from what you get in beach resorts in Spain and Greece. The British are voted to be the worst behaved of all toursists in Europe.

No fun there!

OK - I MUST get back to work . . . .

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thunderbird

15 years ago

That kind of tourism has never appealed to me. It's not like a virtue or something in my case. I just feel totally uncomfortable in any kind of situation like that. My participating in it would have to be under threat of having my fingernails pulled out one by one if I don't.

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Kelly Verge

15 years ago

That has nothing to do with backpacking (regardless of what the video says).

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Ken Strong

15 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

It looks like a vomit fest of drunkeness and free sex. I can't help but feel this is as close to Sodom and Gomorrah as you can get!

Did we watch the same video? I saw a bunch of rowdy people dancing on the beach. Yes, looks like some people had quite a bit to drink. Didn't see any sex, free or otherwise. Didn't even see any nudity. MTV's Spring Break programs show more skin than this video. Sodom and Gomorrah?

And like others have already noted, this has zero to do with becoming a long-term traveler and wanderer.

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derekwong28

15 years ago

Originally Posted by KenStrong

Did we watch the same video? I saw a bunch of rowdy people dancing on the beach. Yes, looks like some people had quite a bit to drink. Didn't see any sex, free or otherwise. Didn't even see any nudity. MTV's Spring Break programs show more skin than this video. Sodom and Gomorrah?
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Ken, I can assure you that this is no different than what happens in notorious European resorts such as Ibiza, Majorca and some Greek Islands. Americans tend to be better behaved than Europeans and also much more reserved and prudish. I have been to Koh Samui many times and I know what it is like. Youtube's TOS forbids more explicit videos.

Having lived in the UK for years, I just know sun, sea, booze and sex is standard fare for singles going on a summer beach holiday. Just read any British tabloid and you will know. I also had a number of British friends who had regularly gone on such holidays and boosted of their sex exploits. Apparently, the aim was to sleep with girls of as many nationalities as possible during a single holiday.

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pjCheviot

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Having lived in the UK for years, I just know sun, sea, booze and sex is standard fare for singles going on a summer beach holiday. Just read any British tabloid and you will know. I also had a number of British friends who had regularly gone on such holidays and boosted of their sex exploits. Apparently, the aim was to sleep with girls of as many nationalities as possible during a single holiday.

Slightly different animal to that in your title :confused:

Apples and Oranges (to me anyway!)

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derekwong28

15 years ago

Originally Posted by pjCheviot

Slightly different animal to that in your title :confused:

Apples and Oranges (to me anyway!)

The title was based on what the presenter on that video said. But again, no one can be certain unless you interview the people in the video.

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pjCheviot Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

The title was based on what the presenter on that video said. But again, no one can be certain unless you interview the people in the video.

Still don't get the connection between "backpacking" and "singles going on a summer beach holiday."

Maybe it's just me - ah well - back to business . . . . .
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John Henderson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

I thought of going there with my two young daughers before but after watching this, I think I will give it a break. It looks like a vomit fest of drunkeness and free sex. I can't help but feel this is as close to Sodom and Gomorrah as you can get!

I watched the video, and just saw a bunch of young people enjoying themselves at a beach party. I didn't see any vomiting or free sex. Perhaps your young daughters would be better off getting a good night's sleep than going to an all-night beach party.

Originally Posted by derekwong28

I have been to Koh Samui many times and I know what it is like. Youtube's TOS forbids more explicit videos.

Uhhh, you're so appalled by the drunkenness and free sex that you keep going back time and time again...

Originally Posted by derekwong28

The British are voted to be the worst behaved of all toursists in Europe.

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Americans tend to be better behaved than Europeans and also much more reserved and prudish.

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Having lived in the UK for years, I just know sun, sea, booze and sex is standard fare for singles going on a summer beach holiday. Just read any British tabloid and you will know. I also had a number of British friends who had regularly gone on such holidays and boosted of their sex exploits. Apparently, the aim was to sleep with girls of as many nationalities as possible during a single holiday.

Derek, if I had generalised about a nationality or race the way that you have in this thread, I would fully expect to be banned from the WF for life.

Instead of using this thread to talk about backpacking, you've done nothing but (a) condemn young people for doing what you imagine they're getting up to and (b) condemn the behaviour of British people abroad based upon your own sweeping and offensive generalisations and the stereotypes you've read about in the tabloid newspapers.

Yes, some young Brits go to Ibiza or Majorca for booze and sex, but there are many more who go to Italy, France or Spain for relaxation and to visit cities of culture like Paris, Milan or Barcelona. But where they go and what they do isn't any of my business. Nor is it any of yours.

If you can't bring yourself to say anything positive about British people, then please don't say anything at all.

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derekwong28

15 years ago

Originally Posted by John Henderson

I watched the video, and just saw a bunch of young people enjoying themselves at a beach party. I didn't see any vomiting or free sex. Perhaps your young daughters would be better off getting a good night's sleep than going to an all-night beach party.

Uhhh, you're so appalled by the drunkenness and free sex that you keep going back time and time again...

Derek, if I had generalised about a nationality or race the way that you have in this thread, I would fully expect to be banned from the WF for life.

Instead of using this thread to talk about backpacking, you've done nothing but (a) condemn young people for doing what you imagine they're getting up to and (b) condemn the behaviour of British people abroad based upon your own sweeping and offensive generalisations and the stereotypes you've read about in the tabloid newspapers.

Yes, some young Brits go to Ibiza or Majorca for booze and sex, but there are many more who go to Italy, France or Spain for relaxation and to visit cities of culture like Paris, Milan or Barcelona. But where they go and what they do isn't any of my business. Nor is it any of yours.

If you can't bring yourself to say anything positive about British people, then please don't say anything at all.

John, I am British. When I was in holiday in Spain, people would drive by and asked me whether I am British. You will be opening a can of worms if you say that I cannot be a true British citizen because I am not white. If you have read my previous posts, I also made a lot of condemnatory remarks about Hong Kong and the Chinese people .e.g

http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...ing-video.html

The reason I go back is that resorts that serve Westerners have better standards of hygiene for people with young families. I am sorry if I had offended you but this is supposed to be a fun thread. Some of the friends I referred to were Malaysian Chinese.

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John Henderson 15 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Josh, I am British. When I was in holiday in Spain, people would drive by and asked me whether I am British.

Forgive me Derek, I didn't know that.

Originally Posted by derekwong28

You will be opening a can of worms if you say that I cannot be a true British citizen because I am not white.

I only assumed that you weren't British because you said that you had spent many years in the UK -- this wording suggested that you had merely stayed here for a while.

Originally Posted by derekwong28

If you have read my previous posts, I also made a lot of condemnatory remarks about Hong Kong and the Chinese people

Sure, but the focus on the behaviour of drunk Brit tourists seemed out of place in this thread.

Originally Posted by derekwong28

The reason I go back is that resorts that serve Westerners have better standards of hygiene for people with young families.

Ah, then it's my turn to apologise.

Originally Posted by derekwong28

I am sorry if I had offended you but this is supposed to be a fun thread.

Oh Derek, you didn't offend me -- in fact I now feel like a complete muppet for chastising you. It's just that I've seen my fair share of online jibes at the British (often from Americans who've never even set foot outside of their own country) and I've grown tired of it.

Foreigners forget that this country provides poorer countries with a huge quantity of aid: the British response to the recent floods in Pakistan was to deliver £50 million in 2 weeks. Not "pledge" that money, but deliver it. The UK accepts more immigrants as asylum seekers than any other country in Europe -- even the United Nations has commented that Britain has taken more than its fair share.

So, yes, you're right -- some Brits get drunk abroad and make arses of themselves. But as a country, we're not so bad.
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Richard Tunnah

15 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Ken, I can assure you that this is no different than what happens in notorious European resorts such as Ibiza, Majorca and some Greek Islands. Americans tend to be better behaved than Europeans and also much more reserved and prudish. I have been to Koh Samui many times and I know what it is like. Youtube's TOS forbids more explicit videos.

Having lived in the UK for years, I just know sun, sea, booze and sex is standard fare for singles going on a summer beach holiday. Just read any British tabloid and you will know. I also had a number of British friends who had regularly gone on such holidays and boosted of their sex exploits. Apparently, the aim was to sleep with girls of as many nationalities as possible during a single holiday.

Derek,
Living in lanzarote (even though it's more chilled than many places) I still see particularly the british young men and women in the summer months arriving for 1 or 2 weeks of partying and all that goes along with it! It's kinda sad for me watching the brits fighting, throwing up or just making arses of themselves on the streets.

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pjCheviot

Banned 15 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Just read any British tabloid and you will know.

Mmm - changed your mind since the "Tiger Woods thread"?

"I have lived in the UK long enough to know that you cannot take seriously most of the stories in the Sun. If you haven't read The Sun, I would suggest that you go to website and read a copy so that you can judge for yourself."

Josh, I am British. When I was in holiday in Spain, people would drive by and asked me whether I am British. You will be opening a can of worms if you say that I cannot be a true British citizen because I am not white.

Who is Josh? And where did you see reference to your third sentence in that quote?

Wow!!

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derekwong28

15 years ago

Originally Posted by pjCheviot

Mmm - changed your mind since the "Tiger Woods thread"?

"I have lived in the UK long enough to know that you cannot take seriously most of the stories in the Sun. If you haven't read The Sun, I would suggest that you go to website and read a copy so that you can judge for yourself."

Who is Josh? And where did you see reference to your third sentence in that quote?

Wow!!

Sorry, it is John then. PJ, I went with my wife to Spain and Greece nearly 10 years and I saw these things with my own eyes, especially in Majorca. I stayed near Magaluf and it was just pretty awful. There was smell of puke in our hotel room and we couldn't sleep well at night because of noisy sex upstairs. Also, the curtains were quite translucent and we could see the naughty stuff that was going on across. In town, the scene was just like the bar scene in the film "Gremlins". My wife was pregnant at that time and I was really scared we could be hit by some drunkard. I also saw accosting on the streets.

When I was a medical student in Bristol. Many of my friends would boast of their exploits during the long summer recess. Some would go as back packers on Eurorail, and others would join notorious singles tour groups such as 18-30 or buddies. I don't see any reason to doubt their accounts as they have nothing to gain.

You must remember it was in the days before AIDS became widespread. Now young people are more careful and there is much less nudity around. Also at around that time, there was the heysel stadium disaster and the Europeans really feared hooligans from Britain.

Of course that was quite a long time ago and I accept that things may have changed for the better.

In a recent trip to Thailand, 5 French men (2 white, 2 brown, and 1 black) rented a studio appartment near us and shared one or two Thai girls every night.

This has got nothing to with race and nationality. It is just certain resorts in some countries are really condusive to this sort of behavior. Now living in Hong Kong, there is a big problem accross the border in Shenzhen. Lots of men have mistresses there and in some quarters, it is not possible to get through a whole day without being accosted by prostitutes. Soft drugs are also readily available. In fact, our chief executive requested the Chinese authorities to crack down and hold the offenders longer than they would.

Again I am sorry if anyone was offended but this is not meant to be a serious thread. I just want everybody to have some fun and loosen up.

Don't worry John, I am just a bit surprised at your reaction.

Derek

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John Henderson 15 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Don't worry John, I am just a bit surprised at your reaction.

Yes, I can understand that now Derek. Initially, I just interpreted your other posts as "a guy in Hong Kong criticising the Brits based on what he's seen in the tabloid newspapers" and it seemed unfair to paint us all with the same brush. That's why I was a bit defensive.

But as you're a fellow Brit -- I can only apologise again.... and look like a chump! :rolleyes:
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gareth

15 years ago

Last night I did worse.

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15 years ago

NEVER TOO OLD TO HAVE FUN!!

And if you still think something like that is fun when you're old and wrinkly then you're a person who will say NEVER too old.

If you think something like that is fun when you're 18 but not when you're 26 then 26 is too old.

And so on..

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derekwong28

15 years ago

The term backpacker can be used loosely

Backpacker - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Backpacker or Backpacking may refer to:

A person participating in
backpacking (wilderness)
backpacking (travel)
A traveler whose luggage consists of a backpack
An inexpensive place to stay, such as a hostel (chiefly New Zealand, also Australia)

I believe most travellers going to Koh Phagnan would either have luggage that consist of a backpack or stay at an inexpensive. Therefore it is also totally consistent with "singles going on a low budget holiday"

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derekwong28

15 years ago

Don't worry. By the way, Ed Milliband has just been elected as labour party leader.

It goes to show sometimes you have to be careful and keep to the topic to avoid any possible gaffes. Most Westerners at Koh Phagnan / Koh Samui do not speak english, therefore that video does not really have much to do with British people.

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scrofford

15 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Now John Reese is a backpacker, would you like to do the same thing. Here is a video of the legendary "Full Moon Party" in Koh Phangan, Thailand. They also have a "Half Moon Party" each month, so there are 24 such parties per year.

I thought of going there with my two young daughers before but after watching this, I think I will give it a break. It looks like a vomit fest of drunkeness and free sex. I can't help but feel this is as close to Sodom and Gomorrah as you can get!

Now tell us what you think! How old is too old for this?

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Where's the sex? I didn't get to see any sex! Actually I have seen way worse in my lifetime.

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Joe Benjamin

15 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Now John Reese is a backpacker, would you like to do the same thing. Here is a video of the legendary "Full Moon Party" in Koh Phangan, Thailand. They also have a "Half Moon Party" each month, so there are 24 such parties per year.

I thought of going there with my two young daughers before but after watching this, I think I will give it a break. It looks like a vomit fest of drunkeness and free sex. I can't help but feel this is as close to Sodom and Gomorrah as you can get!

Now tell us what you think! How old is too old for this?

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Woah.

If it looks like it's a vomit fest and drunkeness with open sex...whats
wrong with that?

Look at hugh hefners life...he does it all the freakin time, and he's
70 something years old. Point is, if you want to have a little fun and
live life no matter what your age you should go out and party. It's
good for you.

Sure, you might not want to partake in events (open sex) that could
end up being a mistake if your still raising kids of your own...but for
those without kids or much responsibility (i.e. myself), there is nothing
wrong with this.

Actually, thank you for putting this up. I know what to look forward
to in December when I'm flying out to Thailand for little fun in the sun.

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derekwong28 15 years ago

Originally Posted by WhoIsBenjamin

Woah.

If it looks like it's a vomit fest and drunkeness with open sex...whats
wrong with that?

Just make sure you don't do drugs there, it crosses a line and many have been arrested and thrown in jail. Also, make sure you know the dates for the Full Moon and Half-Moon festivals. You should also plan in advance on how to get to Koh Phangnan. It is not that easy to get there as you can only go there by ferry. Morover, things may not be as cheap as you think.

I don't think that video leaves much to the imagination. Youtube's TOS forbids the posting of more explicit videos. There are videos from other sources available but I would be banned if I post them on the WF.

If you are not convinced about what goes on in there, just google terms like "Full Moon Party" "Drugs" "Free Sex" etc.

Sex, Drugs n Lunar Cycles - Full Moon Party, Ko Phangan, Thailand Travel Blog

Full Moon Party

Thailand’s Full Moon Party – July 2008

It is the biggest beach party in the world. I would love to have gone if not for my young family. I like watching this stuff even though I am probably too chicken to participate.

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