Now That Everything Inside the Box Is Dead...

by King Shiloh Banned
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...are you ready to live outside the box? Now that you can no longer play safe or smart, are you ready to take the bull by the horn and go out of your way to make things happen for you. Now that the "easy" (in quote) things like article marketing, social bookmarking, blog commenting, Yahoo answers, link building, and so on are no more "alive" and effective as they used to be, are you prepared to go extra mile? Are you prepared to leave your comfort zone?

Agreed, living outside the box is not easy at all but it's rewarding because not many people live there. Or are you finally going to quit now? I guess not...

I would suggest that one of the steps you have to take in case you want to live outside the box is to join the war room if you have not joined.

This is the best time to join the room where virtually all the occupants naturally live outside the box. Let it be the first and best investment you'll make this year.

To your success,
King Shiloh
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by King Shiloh View Post

    ...are you ready to live outside the box?
    The strange thing is that as people catch on to things that are outside the box, the things inside the box get thrown out to make room for them.

    Then your "outside the box" thinking is inside the box, and the old way of doing things is thinking "outside the box" again.

    Just food for thought.
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    • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      The strange thing is that as people catch on to things that are outside the box, the things inside the box get thrown out to make room for them.

      Then your "outside the box" thinking is inside the box, and the old way of doing things is thinking "outside the box" again.

      Just food for thought.
      In that case, why not get a bigger box, keep the old stuff (some might still be useful) and just add the new stuff from outside the box into it?

      That seems like a viable option.

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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        Originally Posted by Buildingfutures View Post

        That seems like a viable option.
        But nobody owns the box. It's a consensus.

        You can choose to retain what's inside the box, but when it becomes "outside the box" thinking, you'll be thinking outside the box whether you like it or not.
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        • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
          Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

          But nobody owns the box. It's a consensus.

          You can choose to retain what's inside the box, but when it becomes "outside the box" thinking, you'll be thinking outside the box whether you like it or not.
          But by thinking outside of your box, aren't you simply thinking in someone elses box by that point?

          Should I be a Germany box and start taking over other boxes? Keep whats in my box but take whats in someone elses box and use it?

          I enjoy our discussions, Darklock.

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          • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
            Originally Posted by Buildingfutures View Post

            Should I be a Germany box and start taking over other boxes? Keep whats in my box but take whats in someone elses box and use it?
            Well, the drawback to that is you have to start with Poland's box.

            I enjoy our discussions, Darklock.
            As do I.
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            • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
              Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

              Well, the drawback to that is you have to start with Poland's box.

              Well, they do have some good sausage. But its so cold this time of year.
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    • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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      Originally Posted by CDarklock View Post

      The strange thing is that as people catch on to things that are outside the box, the things inside the box get thrown out to make room for them.

      Then your "outside the box" thinking is inside the box, and the old way of doing things is thinking "outside the box" again.

      Just food for thought.
      That's why they invented the recycle bin.

      Then, it was not enough so they invented the trash can.

      BTW, I don't know their different features.
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      • Profile picture of the author sanssecret
        The box is mine. So hands off, ok!

        And why do I have to think anyway? Hasn't done anything for me the last 50 years. :confused: From now on, I think I'll just quit thinking altogether. :p
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        • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
          Originally Posted by sanssecret View Post

          The box is mine. So hands off, ok!

          And why do I have to think anyway? Hasn't done anything for me the last 50 years. :confused: From now on, I think I'll just quit thinking altogether. :p
          Hey you are so right - most of the time things work out better when you just do it and not think about it.
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          • Profile picture of the author darkmaster
            Yeah, its better to take action instead of just thinking and thinking, there are great number of people ahead of us, so we need to follow their path.

            Only thing we need to have, is goal and google, and then just HUNT FOR KNOWLEDGE, that's it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sheryl Polomka
    Oh my gosh, King Shiloh thanks for the post, it was really thought provoking and very good - but the responses got me going around in circles - now I'm dizzy

    I'm going to think outside my box, outside everyone else's box and I'm keeping all the info inside my box for future reference
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    • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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      Originally Posted by Sheryl Polomka View Post

      Oh my gosh, King Shiloh thanks for the post, it was really thought provoking and very good - but the responses got me going around in circles - now I'm dizzy

      I'm going to think outside my box, outside everyone else's box and I'm keeping all the info inside my box for future reference
      Sheryl,

      I'm glad you enjoyed the post.

      Ignore Caliban and Sea, they're just two of a kind.

      I expect Bill to join soon. Then, Dan...

      P.S.: I have not arrived at where I supposed to be but I'm where I am today as a result of the desire and effort to go beyond the elastic limit and even the breaking point. It is this drive and mindset that has taken me to a certain yield point where little effort can turn in maximum output.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanbiddulph
    Forget being inside or outside the box.

    Do what works and stick with it. Sometimes your strategy needs to be tweaked. Whether this is along the lines of conventional thinking or not doesn't matter. What does matter is if you're providing immense value with your content, product, service. If you're thinking differently for the sake of being different your results won't change. If you're thinking differently with the intent of improving your offering the results usually change quickly.

    The difference lies in your intent. What is it? When focused on a clear-cut purpose that benefits all involved your thinking follows along certain lines, whether conventional or not.

    People do quite well for themselves thinking inside or outside the box. Do what works for you and if your results say that you need to innovate on that, innovate.

    All the best,

    RB
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkoZ
    I try to strike some balance when it comes to this, doing both at the same time if you know what I mean.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    I think sometimes people can take 'out of the box' a little far.

    For instance: I just bought a stick of deodorant, and on it they had written
    "Remove cap and push up bottom."

    Well I'm walking funny, but my farts smell lovely. Unfortunately due to their 'out of the box' approach to application, I believe I will chose a standard application brand in the future

    Sorry I couldn't resist, but probably should have.
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    • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
      Originally Posted by Colin Palfrey View Post

      I think sometimes people can take 'out of the box' a little far.

      For instance: I just bought a stick of deodorant, and on it they had written
      "Remove cap and push up bottom."

      Well I'm walking funny, but my farts smell lovely. Unfortunately due to their 'out of the box' approach to application, I believe I will chose a standard application brand in the future

      Sorry I couldn't resist, but probably should have.
      Not at all! Welcome to the thread hijacker club. Here you'll find me and Caliban at this time.

      Speaking of. About those three buttocks...

      Cool story bro!
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by Colin Palfrey View Post

      my farts smell lovely.
      Yeah, that's what everyone thinks. The rest of us rarely agree.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Colle
    Well the box is mine and I am not thinking out of it. Not now, not tomorrow and not any time soon. I intend to keep it and think in it till.........................

    And if you don't need yours any more instead of putting it in the recycle bin or trash bin, do me a favor bring it here and I will make good use of it for you.

    If you want to go out side the box, then I will be the first to wish you fare well and shout hooray!!!!! and say quietly "one more is out" and wait for the day another person follows your foot steps and make more room for myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Colin Palfrey
    The problem is that every time you try something 'out of the box', it's no longer 'out of the box'.

    The box expands to encompass all new ideas, meaning the person that celebrates being out of the box today, tomorrow is back inside. The 'box' is our idea of what is normal, and when we do something unexpected we push back that boundary.

    It is the same as the concept of 'weird'. First you see someone walk past you and they have purple hair and you think that they are weird. A few days later several others are also walking around with purple hair because they saw the first person and liked the look of purple hair. Suddenly the boundaries of 'weird' have been pushed back, and the word implies something other than it had.

    'Out of the box' is a concept much like 'weird' or 'tomorrow'. No matter what you try you never reach them, you only push back the concept. Which of course, in itself is still worthwhile.
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    • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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      Originally Posted by Colin Palfrey View Post

      The problem is that every time you try something 'out of the box', it's no longer 'out of the box'.

      The box expands to encompass all new ideas, meaning the person that celebrates being out of the box today, tomorrow is back inside. The 'box' is our idea of what is normal, and when we do something unexpected we push back that boundary.

      It is the same as the concept of 'weird'. First you see someone walk past you and they have purple hair and you think that they are weird. A few days later several others are also walking around with purple hair because they saw the first person and liked the look of purple hair. Suddenly the boundaries of 'weird' have been pushed back, and the word implies something other than it had.

      'Out of the box' is a concept much like 'weird' or 'tomorrow'. No matter what you try you never reach them, you only push back the concept. Which of course, in itself is still worthwhile.

      Hey, seeing "out of the box" as a mere concept that doesn't exist (except probably in the figment of one's imagination) sounds like the following:

      1. ...accepting defeat,
      2. ...accepting to play safe because of fear of the unknown and other fears
      3. ...inheriting the "herd" mentality. That is, let's-join-them-if-we-cannot-beat-them kind of mindset.

      As far as I'm concerned, these are symptoms of someone suffering from mediocrity. It's totally unacceptable.

      EDIT: A fish in a fish pond is at the risk of losing its life if it continues to stay in the polluted/contaminated pond where just a fish died. In our case, everything(the fish) inside the box(fish pond) is dead leaving us with a contaminated box. Isn't it time we got out of the box before all of us are cold dead?:confused:

      P.S.: Yes, we are not fish(es) but we're as living as the fish. Just an analogy.

      Maybe I'm wrong.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tina Golden
        There is only one solution.

        Burn the damn box.

        I proclaim 2011 the year of the box burning...WHO'S WITH ME???

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        • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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          Originally Posted by TMG Enterprises View Post

          There is only one solution.

          Burn the damn box.

          I proclaim 2011 the year of the box burning...WHO'S WITH ME???

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          Burning the damn box might affect the mechanism of the Warrior Forum.
          Now, that's my greatest worry. Why?

          Many of us are still inside the box and I have always heard from old geeks that you don't have to throw away a child with the bathing water though the child might have messed up everything particularly the bathing water.

          Please remove many warriors that are still inside the box before the burning, if necessary, starts.

          No, leave the box for reference purpose! At least, we can show baby warriors when they've grown up that this box was once the anchor box but it now belongs to history.

          Let's archive the box. Please!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ken Leatherman
    Wait did someone say bra burning. Dont' burn the bras out side of the box. It's only because of the burning boxes that the bras will burn inside the box. Also burning bras is bad for the man boobs who have thought out side the box was safer than inside the box.

    See what thinking out of the box has led to is burning inside the box and ultimately to anarchy.

    Now tell me where I went wrong thinking inside the box. But at least I can blame it entirely on my age.

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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    ... where it gets plastic is conforming to be non-conformist.

    pretty soon in the box is where its at to be different = 'out of the box'.

    (i'm sure this has been said in this thread in other ways).

    there will always be a counter-point

    there will never be absolutes (totally in totally out)

    being out is 'IN' this year again.

    for me i have never been in the box =

    wouldn't know how to be

    whatever is 'the way' of the day

    i am going the other way.

    not bragging

    it is always difficult being different

    and just as hard to rip yourself off from the pack mentality

    when the same try so hard to be different

    and different is all the same

    ... either way.


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  • Profile picture of the author King Shiloh
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    The most difficult of tasks is often the most delicious in terms of rewards.
    If we don't do it because it's difficult, then who will?
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