Ashton Kutcher?

15 years ago

It might be a brilliant move as long as they adjust the character to fit the new actor.

The supporting actors on that show have often carried the show for me - I was a bit tired of the Sheen character as it was predictable.

I think with the ratings of the show - it's worth a shot for the network. It might improve the show and add some years to the run.

I'd make him a relative or best friend of sheen with some of the same personality traits but some new ones as well. I've read in the past that many long running series pre-tape segments where a leading character is removed or killed off or whatever as "insurance". Wonder if this show has a segment like that in the can?

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15 years ago

I think he will be a good replacement. I would have preferred Rob Lowe, but Ashton is still a good choice.

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Kurt

15 years ago

What do they do with Charlie? Put him in the Betty Ford clinic? Kill him off? Have him join a monestary?

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Kay King 15 years ago

Would be a challenging job for a writer, wouldn't it? Don't think he gets killed off -this is a comedy, after all.

Maybe he inherited a huge estate in another country and gone there to collect and check it out. Maybe he won a huge trip or got transferred at work temporarily to another country (does he work?)

I think if they use this it will be a scenario that can be reversed if for some reason Sheen ends up back on the show. If the show limps with a replacement and Sheen regains his brain, nothing is impossible on TV.

On the other hand, if Kutcher is a hit (and he could be just that), the "transfer/move/emergency" could become permanent in the script.

If they do this - I predict the first show at least will have great ratings.
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- Mike Anthony 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kay King
  
  Would be a challenging job for a writer, wouldn't it? Don't think he gets killed off -this is a comedy, after all.
  
  Actually its pretty easy given the character. Its after all really just charlie playing himself. He runs off with two women (goddesses) leaves a note saying he loved the time they had but he wants a simpler life in fiji. Done.
  
  Better to make Ashton unrelated so that you are not constantly reminding the audience That Sheen isn't there. gambling debt note that promises him room and board should he ever leave the country or some other liquor induced agreement. Sufficient tension can then between the one and a half men and the new one and you can make him into any personality that fits.
  
  LOL at the ripping of Ashton' s acting. When did Charlie ever really act?
  
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  Bradley J Anderson 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony
  
  When did Charlie ever really act?
  
  Wall Street, Being John Malkovich, The Arrival, Cadence, Eight Men Out, and most certainly Platoon, come to mind.
  
  I also happen to like Hot Shots, but that movie was made to be goofy.
  
  Now if you're talking about a RANGE of acting ability, then I would agree. That's exactly why I don't like Harrison Ford. He's always the same guy.
  
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Kurt

15 years ago

How about Charlie loses his house in a poker game to Ashton, decides he has to change his life and becomes a monk?

Asthon is a "lovable" two-bit con man, with a pinch of Eddie Haskell tossed in, who cheated Charlie out of the house.

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Alex Barboza

15 years ago

Nobody could replace Charlie in this show. Ashton is good but not for Charlie's role

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HeySal

15 years ago

Ashton won't be the "same" - that's true. But I can see him in a role similar enough to make the show work. At least the show will retain eye candy value. LOL.

I'm thinking that Charlie will probably move to England and marry Rose. Not sure how Ashton will enter though. Charlie probably sells the house to a relative or friend (or his mother does, anyway) and that's Ashton's entry. Will be interesting.

Sometimes new characters just don't have the chemistry of the old ones and it kills the show. I hope this one goes. I love the show and I love Ashton, too.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Ashton won't be the "same" - that's true. But I can see him in a role similar enough to make the show work. At least the show will retain eye candy value. LOL.

I'm thinking that Charlie will probably move to England and marry Rose. Not sure how Ashton will enter though. Charlie probably sells the house to a relative or friend (or his mother does, anyway) and that's Ashton's entry. Will be interesting.

Sometimes new characters just don't have the chemistry of the old ones and it kills the show. I hope this one goes. I love the show and I love Ashton, too.

Fade in:

Ashton is a cousin...Ashton is a Hollywood cougar wrangler.

Charlie finally gets his comeuppance and is attacked and mauled by one (or all) of Ashton's cougars.

He has to move in to take care of the household along with all his cougars...

bedlam ensues....

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15 years ago

Maybe they'll pull a Bewitched, just replace Darrin and hope nobody notices...lol

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Kay King 15 years ago

There have been many series in the past where the lead character was replace more than once and the show went on just fine.

Everyone is replaceable - when you forget that fact you could say you're pulling a "charlie sheen".
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betteseo 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Roaddog

Maybe they'll pull a Bewitched, just replace Darrin and hope nobody notices...lol

omg that's right. man i loved that show. but with the darrins... they at least looked alike. charlie and ashton? not at all. hopefully they won't have he play the charlie sheen role and will just have he be a new character.

poor charlie. hilarious but so very very crazy.
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Bradley J Anderson

15 years ago

Ashton sucks as an actor. He's sucked since That 70s Show, and everything since. Eye candy don't mean nothin' when you can't act. And he is definitely NOT a comedian, for sure, he's proved that a number of times now, too. Those two parts were actually written with Charlie and Jon in mind. And the chemistry between them was perfect. I love the show, too, but I don't see it making it past a couple of shows without Charlie, unfortunately.

The only thing that MIGHT save the show is if wo/men start tuning in for the 'eye-candy' factor, but that would be really sad. Ashton might as well go back to modeling underwear, 'cause he can't act his way out of the proverbial wet paper bag.

I hate to say it, but I'm not even going to watch the show anymore. I guess it's back to re-runs of "My Name is Earl".

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MerlynSanchez

15 years ago

I don't think Charlie Sheen has "acted" once since he's been on 2 1/2 men.

As you mentioned, the character was written for him and he's just playing himself.

That doesn't mean that I think that Ashton Kutcher can successfully replace him. It'll take some good and creative writing, and chemistry with
the other cast members.

Originally Posted by Bradley J Anderson

Ashton sucks as an actor. He's sucked since That 70s Show, and everything since. Eye candy don't mean nothin' when you can't act. And he is definitely NOT a comedian, for sure, he's proved that a number of times now, too. Those two parts were actually written with Charlie and Jon in mind. And the chemistry between them was perfect. I love the show, too, but I don't see it making it past a couple of shows without Charlie, unfortunately.

The only thing that MIGHT save the show is if wo/men start tuning in for the 'eye-candy' factor, but that would be really sad. Ashton might as well go back to modeling underwear, 'cause he can't act his way out of the proverbial wet paper bag.

I hate to say it, but I'm not even going to watch the show anymore. I guess it's back to re-runs of "My Name is Earl".

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15 years ago

Ashton kutcher, and APPARENTLY his NATIVE persona, is similar to what one might expect from a guy like Charlie Sheen! I could see him as a nephew, son, or even friend.

REALLY, they aren't so much different. Look at the 70s show(he is CLEARLY not the dolt he is there), the camera commercials, that film where he played the new husband, or punked. ALL THE SAME! Kind of arrogant, careless, raunchy. Much like Charlie Sheen!

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faysal9

15 years ago

wow. my fav. Cant wait to see him doing this character

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Halfdantimm

15 years ago

AShton is not even close to Sheen. I'm rather disappointed. Didn't watch the series much before, definitly not going to now. :/

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Steven Wagenheim

15 years ago

I rarely make predications about shows but I'm making an exception for this one.

The ratings for the first episode will be off the charts.

Once people see that Ashton sucks as an actor and even more so doing
comedy, the ratings will plummet and, after half a season, the show will be
pulled...if it lasts that long.

I saw Ashton in one movie, "The Butterfly Effect" which, given the subject
matter and the fact that I'm a super sci fi/fantasy fan, should have been a
fantastic movie, was almost killed because of his lame acting. The movie,
for me, was only saved because the story and supporting actors were so good.

2 1/2 Men...it was fun while it lasted, but this is just doing an autopsy on
an already buried body.

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Ben Armstrong

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I rarely make predications about shows but I'm making an exception for this one.

The ratings for the first episode will be off the charts.

Once people see that Ashton sucks as an actor and even more so doing
comedy, the ratings will plummet and, after half a season, the show will be
pulled...if it lasts that long.

I saw Ashton in one movie, "The Butterfly Effect" which, given the subject
matter and the fact that I'm a super sci fi/fantasy fan, should have been a
fantastic movie, was almost killed because of his lame acting. The movie,
for me, was only saved because the story and supporting actors were so good.

2 1/2 Men...it was fun while it lasted, but this is just doing an autopsy on
an already buried body.

I have to agree here.

I can't see it working as well as it has without Sheen.

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panamahomes

15 years ago

To be honest, I don't think it will last. Ashton is very funny, but filling those shoes is gonna be tough. Good luck to him though.

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jeffrey73 15 years ago

Big Time FAIL.

No one can replace that character or Sheen's personality equally.

Kutcher = NOT WINNING

He needs to stick with making new versions of Punk'ed and other stupid (non-funny) MTV shows.
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15 years ago

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MabusSubam

15 years ago

I dunno, charlie was a big part of the show if you ask me. But if anyone could do it it would be Ashton. He is a pretty talented guy, watch "THE BUTTERFLY EFFECT" if you haven't already.

I think that it could go either way really, depending who they execute the show for now on.

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garyv

15 years ago

It actually takes some talent to be the idiot in comedy, and you've got to admit that he does a pretty good job of it. I think that with the help of their writers he could help push the show along for a few more years.

After all it's quite obvious by now that the writers were more than half of what made Charlie's character funny.

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HeySal

15 years ago

Bradley, Steve -- I have to disagree with ya on this one.

I LIKE Ashton's acting. I'm not the type to watch something just because I like the actor - it has to be good. Otherwise I would have seen every one of Depp's movies. He's just done a lot that aren't in the scope of my interests.

I saw Butterfly Effect and really liked the movie. If you didn't like it, I don't think any other actor would have saved it for you.

Of course - Ashton did play the part of a moron for a long time so maybe it's just getting over that type-casting is why people don't like him.

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Kay King 15 years ago

Sheen's reaction was typical of him these days - snide and snipey.

If sheen returned - I wouldn't watch it at all. Have never been a big fan of the show but saw it occasionally. I'd watch Ashton a couple time to see how it goes and keep watching sometimes if it works.

Wouldn't be surprised to see another one or two new characters also added in the new version.
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- Bradley J Anderson 15 years ago
  
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  Wouldn't be surprised to see another one or two new characters also added in the new version.
  
  lol. That's always a sure sign the ratings are faltering. Unfortunately, it rarely works for long.
  
  If you see this guy on the show:
  
  You know it's a done deal. He's made a career out of being the last character written in when a show is on it's way out.
  
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15 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Bradley, Steve -- I have to disagree with ya on this one.

I LIKE Ashton's acting. I'm not the type to watch something just because I like the actor - it has to be good. Otherwise I would have seen every one of Depp's movies. He's just done a lot that aren't in the scope of my interests.

I saw Butterfly Effect and really liked the movie. If you didn't like it, I don't think any other actor would have saved it for you.

Of course - Ashton did play the part of a moron for a long time so maybe it's just getting over that type-casting is why people don't like him.

Like I said, he isn't the dolt he played there. Frankly, I don't think sheen did enough to be THAT different from kutcher. From what I have seen of kutcher, and I have seen him in over half a dozen different cases(the dolt was only ONE), he could fill sheens shoes IN HIS SLEEP! He doesn't even need to ACT(Meaning change something about his persona). He only needs to read soome decent lines, and be HIMSELF! Some roles just FIT!

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JBorhez

15 years ago

A big part of why this show was so popular was due the fact that it was somewhat based on Charlie Sheen's real life. Ashton Kutcher? No Thanks!

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Bradley J Anderson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by JBorhez

A big part of why this show was so popular was due the fact that it was somewhat based on Charlie Sheen's real life.

Right. That was my point, too. Those 2 roles were written specifically for Charlie and Jon Cryer, based on their actual personalities. There are a lot of real-life traits that are reflected in their characters, which is a big reason why they play them so well. I just don't see this working out well at all with Kutcher.

I think Steve is right, though, in saying that the first show will probably be a ratings monster just because of all the publicity with Charlie and now Ashton.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by Bradley J Anderson

Right. That was my point, too. Those 2 roles were written specifically for Charlie and Jon Cryer, based on their actual personalities. There are a lot of real-life traits that are reflected in their characters, which is a big reason why they play them so well. I just don't see this working out well at all with Kutcher.

WOW, that is EXACTLY why I think Kutcher CAN pull it off!!!!!

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Originally Posted by JBorhez

A big part of why this show was so popular was due the fact that it was somewhat based on Charlie Sheen's real life. Ashton Kutcher? No Thanks!

How about they base Ashton's character on his own life...Maybe have Ashton marry an older women...Like the mom Evelyn so Ashton becomes Allen's step dad.
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- Roaddog 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Kurt
  
  How about they base Ashton's character on his own life...Maybe have Ashton marry an older women...Like the mom Evelyn so Ashton becomes Allen's step dad.
  
  Yup.....cougars.
  
  Scantily clad 50 year olds... all after Ashton. Oh boy:p
  
  I think Steven Wagenheim hit it right on...big first numbers....then over the back porch faster than Rose.
  
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Devid Farah

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Anyone else see where Ashton Kutcher has been signed to replace Charlie Sheen on 2 1/2 men?

What??????

2 1/2 men will never be the same.

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Sheryl Polomka

15 years ago

I didn't think Charlie Sheen could be replaced on this show, he is such a huge character that the show just wouldn't be the same without him. I never imagined that they would replace him, however, hearing it is Ashton Kutcher I think he might do ok. I think he's quite a good choice for a replacement and will do a good job.

Having said that.........

I still don't think it will last that long. It just won't be the same. I could be wrong and I hope I am, but I think this is the sort of show that once you replace one of the main characters it will just never be as good.

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HeySal

15 years ago

Steve - I agree with ya. But I'm also thinking what Sheryl said is a real possibility. America is used to Charlie as Charlie. They might be able to pull off enough of a change in the story that it will work though. They have to do something about Jake soon, too anyway. He's going to be too old for the part pretty soon.

Wow Kurt - that would be way twisted. Not sure America could handle that one. I know I couldn't.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Steve - I agree with ya. But I'm also thinking what Sheryl said is a real possibility. America is used to Charlie as Charlie. They might be able to pull off enough of a change in the story that it will work though. They have to do something about Jake soon, too anyway. He's going to be too old for the part pretty soon.

Wow Kurt - that would be way twisted. Not sure America could handle that one. I know I couldn't.

Yeah, the shows days were numbered from DAY ONE! They had the play between cryer and sheen, and the naive nature, and conditions for the kid. The kid was EVEN named in the title as 1/2 men! The kid is ready for an older role and soon may be expected to leave, lest there be ANOTHER aspect that people are probably ALREADY tired of. And the action between cryer and sheen can only go so far. And this might even be the thing that started sheens departure. He left on a HIGH note.

So YEAH, it may end soon. It may not even get ONE more season. I am just saying it probably won't be due to kutcher.

HECK, on that 70s show, I thought it was silly, etc... Did you know that ashton kutchers girlfriend on the show even lied about her age to get on?!?!? She was too young, and they had to make accomodations. And I think it was ashtons first acting job. Still, they managed to pull it off. Outside of being a dolt, and hamming it up, I think kutcher just played himself.

BTW Charlie sheen was similar when he was younger!

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dagaul101

15 years ago

Apparently it will be a whole new story, and suppose to be very funny, nice the series is being saved though

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celente

15 years ago

i swear these guys are turning into full on marketing gurus these days.

Well i do not know if you call mr sheen a genius, as he is hyped up on a concoction of drugs, however I just cant hate the guy. I mean do you watch two and a half men. Classic, pure raw comedy at its finest.

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15 years ago

Originally Posted by celente

i swear these guys are turning into full on marketing gurus these days.

Well i do not know if you call mr sheen a genius, as he is hyped up on a concoction of drugs, however I just cant hate the guy. I mean do you watch two and a half men. Classic, pure raw comedy at its finest.

I watch it ENOUGH! They started when Angus was about the age he was in see spot run. That was TEN years ago! The last episode I saw, it was CLEAR angus was at least CLOSE to that much older. HARDLY 1/2 a man! Lets see oct/93. see spot run he was approx EIGHT. NOW, he is approx 18. YEP, his age is showing! Time for him to get a job, assuming he hasn't gotten one, and at least TALK about moving out, assuming he hasn't. 2 men, and a young adult in the same place is just not right.

Maybe it is time to change the title! As for sheen? He's been lucky. OBVIOUSLY, in some films, he has even played someone just a LITTLE different. In some cases, he has played someone a bit likable. In some cases you feel he is just acting and ignore it even though that really is his personna.

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Originally Posted by seasoned

. 2 men, and a young adult in the same place is just not right.

Maybe it is time to change the title!

Steve

Maybe they could just keep Sheen AND hire Ashton. Then they could re-name it 3 Men and a Baby! lol
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  Maybe they could just keep Sheen AND hire Ashton. Then they could re-name it 3 Men and a Baby! lol
  
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15 years ago

Personally I love Ashtons acting, in all movies. But its like anything in life...You cant replace the irreplacable

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Kurt

15 years ago

There's been some successful character swaps on TV before...

Shelly Long/Kirstie Allen on Cheers

MASH had a bunch, Trapper/BJ Honeycutt is one.

And how can we forget Chester (Dennis Weaver) being replaced by Festus (Ken Curtis) on Gunsmoke or Goober replacing Gomer on the Andy Griffith show.

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Steven Wagenheim

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

There's been some successful character swaps on TV before...

Shelly Long/Kirstie Allen on Cheers

MASH had a bunch, Trapper/BJ Honeycutt is one.

And how can we forget Chester (Dennis Weaver) being replaced by Festus (Ken Curtis) on Gunsmoke or Goober replacing Gomer on the Andy Griffith show.

Character replacements can work if it's not the main character. I don't
recall one show where the big star of the show was recast and still made
it.

In fact, when Winchester replaced Frank, the show got better.

Had Alan Alda left MASH I don't think the show would have survived.

Some people are just not replaceable.

Look what happened to 8 Simple Rules after John Ritter died.

Had Adam West left Batman, that should would have never made it past
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Kurt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Character replacements can work if it's not the main character. I don't
recall one show where the big star of the show was recast and still made
it.

In fact, when Winchester replaced Frank, the show got better.

Had Alan Alda left MASH I don't think the show would have survived.

Some people are just not replaceable.

Look what happened to 8 Simple Rules after John Ritter died.

Had Adam West left Batman, that should would have never made it past
season 1.

I would say Shelly Long was the co-star of Cheers and Charlie is/was the co-star of 2 and 1/2.

Where MASH and Cheers got it right was not replacing characters really, but adding new ones. If Ashton's character is like Charlie's, then I think they are in trouble...But if they give him a new character, they have a chance, as there's other characters on the show I like...Just give Berta a few more lines.

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Bradley J Anderson 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Just give Berta a few more lines.

I love Berta's character, too.

Jon and Berta have a similar tension between them as with Jon and Charlie, although for different reasons. Perhaps Charlie moves on and leaves the house to Jon, so then change to focus to Jon and Berta's relationship? Now that might actually work, athough then you're losing the 2-1/2 men premise.

Fans of only Charlie would still leave, obviously, but fans of the show itself might feel better about not having someone new forced down their throats. And non-fan's of Kutcher's wouldn't stop watching just because of him.

Hmmmm....

I don't know. Maybe they could just make a spin-off out of it (like with Cheers and Frasier) or give Berta her own show. I would give it a watch, either way.

[EDIT] Someone just gave me another idea if Kutcher HAS to be involved:

Charlie's gone, so Jon has to pay the rent (and Bertha), so he rents out Charlie's old room (to Kutcher, obviously, who would have to play the stupid role for this to work, I think). Bertha flips for him kind of like Rose with Charlie, always doing things for him and talking about him, which always seems to piss off Jon immensely. Back with the tension.

Or, since Angus has grown up now, have him suddenly mature and start taking up where Uncle Charlie left off, which would piss off Jon no end, of course.
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- Kurt 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Bradley J Anderson
  
  I love Berta's character, too.
  
  As Charlie once lovingly said about Berta...Berta's a women who can lift a stove with one hand and beat a mouse to death with the other...What a woman!
  
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Steven Wagenheim

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I would say Shelly Long was the co-star of Cheers and Charlie is/was the co-star of 2 and 1/2.

Where MASH and Cheers got it right was not replacing characters really, but adding new ones. If Ashton's character is like Charlie's, then I think they are in trouble...But if they give him a new character, they have a chance, as there's other characters on the show I like...Just give Berta a few more lines.

Kurt, that's true. And a lot of it has to do with the chemistry of the actors
on the show. Berta, IMO, is one of the funniest people on that show and yes,
they should give her more to do.

And the truth is, Charlie Sheen himself wasn't the funny one. What was funny
was all the jokes that were made at his expense as there was a lot to work
with. Same with Alan. He had enough character quirks to fill a bank vault.

And that's why the show worked so well. It wasn't a one joke show. It was
a 3 joke show (Alan, Charlie, and the kid), all having their own little things
to "pick" on.

If Ashton can bring something to the show that is clearly his own, the
supporting cast, not to mention the great writing, might pull it off.

Question is, will the general audience give it a chance?

My gut tells me no simply because this show, in the minds of most people
is Charlie, Alan and the kid. Take any one of them away and it's not the same
show.

Add to that the fact that, let's face it, this show has been on a damn long
time and probably didn't have much life left even had Charlie not been fired,
it's unlikely that a change at this late date is going to suddenly shoot this
tired puppy to the top of the ratings.

Enough to justify keeping it on? Maybe, but if I was a betting man, I
wouldn't call this a slam dunk. I think the first 3 episodes are critical and
that's IF the audience even gives Ashton a shot after episode 1.

My odds for the show lasting a whole season when it returns?

7 - 1

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ThomM

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I would say Shelly Long was the co-star of Cheers and Charlie is/was the co-star of 2 and 1/2.

Where MASH and Cheers got it right was not replacing characters really, but adding new ones. If Ashton's character is like Charlie's, then I think they are in trouble...But if they give him a new character, they have a chance, as there's other characters on the show I like...Just give Berta a few more lines.

You're right Kurt.
I remember when on Rosanne they replaced the actress who played the oldest daughter with a different actress playing the same character. Just didn't seem right after that.

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15 years ago

I suppose it couldn't hurt. It may even make it better.

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HeySal

15 years ago

Seems that if the show was tired anyway, this is a great time for Charlie to bow out and for it to take a new direction. Maybe Charlie knew that it was running down and just thought he'd get some extra publicity on the way out. There might be some life left with a new mix. Anyway - I only watch 2 shows. American Idol of all things - and that's about over for the year, and 2 1/2 men - and I'm hoping that it does run into a good show because it's my mid evening diversion and break from this damned machine. There isn't anything other escape material on that I find consistently funny.

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Bradley J Anderson

15 years ago

From a post this morning on Celebrity Gossip:

Just as the highly-anticipated news of his "Two and a Half Men" replacement went public, Charlie Sheen spoke out to congratulate Ashton Kutcher on his new job while throwing a jab at his former CBS bosses.

The 45-year-old actor took to his Twitter to show is approval of his named successor, writing, “#Winning Congrats to the cast and crew…CBS & WB..! My best to @aplusk !! The show must go on… You got the right guy! c.”

Later in the day (May 13), Sheen gave a statement to "Access Hollywood" about the news, where he took yet another swipe at the "Two and a Half Men" executive producer Chuck Lorre, telling, “Ashton Kutcher is a sweetheart and a brilliant comedic performer. Oh wait, so am I. Enjoy the show America, Enjoy seeing 2.0 in the demo every Monday, WB. Enjoy planet Chuck, Ashton. There is no air, laughter, loyalty, or love there.”

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Tall Paul

15 years ago

They should probably cancel the show, which would be a total shame because it's awesome.... but awesome with Charlie Sheen, they need Charlie. Without Charlie the show must end.... you can't just bring in a new guy and expect everyone to take the show seriously. Ashton is a good actor but he can't take the place of Charlie - no one can!

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DeadRooster

15 years ago

Ashton Kutcher is too much of a Charlie Sheen light... they should go with someone completely different, like... I don't know... Pee Wee Herman.

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Kurt

15 years ago

Looks like the producers really don't like Charlie any more and are planning to kill him off so he can never appear on the show again.

Charlie Sheen's 'Two and a Half Men' Character Will Be Killed Off

The script has yet to be finalized, but sources have told TMZ Sheen's Charlie Harper will be written off in a way preventing the actor from ever returning to the series

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The hotly anticipated Season 9 premiere episode is due to air Sept. 19th, and it will allegedly see Charlie Sheen's character, Charlie Harper, killed off (almost certainly in a very nasty, very unambiguously final way).

Ashton Kutcher Gets a Start Date for 'Two and a Half Men,' Charlie Sheen in Talks With 'Mad Men' Producers

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thunderbird 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Looks like the producers really don't like Charlie any more and are planning to kill him off so he can never appear on the show again.

Also:

I think Two and a Half Men has run its course. Keeping the show running is flogging a tired horse. Put the poor creature out to pasture already.
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- Roaddog 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by thunderbird
  
  I think Two and a Half Men has run its course. Keeping the show running is flogging a tired horse. Put the poor creature out to pasture already.
  
  I agree Tbird. But you just know they'll keep it going till they 'wring' every last cent out of it.
  
  The first few will have a mass 'curiosity' audience, then as others have said here, it will slowly die an agonizing demise.
  Even up until they're all out in front of Charlies place jumping sharks...lol
  
  But who knows, it might be the one in a million that do something like this and make it, although I can't think of one at the moment
  
  By the way I read somewhere that Sheen has signed to do a cable show, with a similar character, but racier, because it's cable.
  Did you hear anything about that Kurt?
  
  edit: I guess he has signed-story
  
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ThomM 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Looks like the producers really don't like Charlie any more and are planning to kill him off so he can never appear on the show again.

Also:

They did a skit on Conan the other night about that with Jon Cryer, friggin hysterical.
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