All of Australia to evacuate???

Kurt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Ragz

Could ALL of these people be WRONG? :confused:

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Yes, they can all be wrong.

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Jaxxxon

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Yes, they can all be wrong.

Please, do tell... what makes you so confident that consequently, you are right?

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Kurt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jaxxxon

Please, do tell... what makes you so confident that consequently, you are right?

I didn't make a comment about whether or not the video was correct. I merely gave an direct answer to a direct question about the possibility that they could all be wrong. And they can all be wrong.

But since your post seems to insinuate that they can't possibly all be wrong, please do tell us why they can't be wrong?

BTW, can you also explain how these "experts" at the 3:16 mark say this "dwarf star" passes from the "southern hemisphere of our solar system to the norther hemisphere"? Since when did solar systems have "hemispheres" or north and south? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Seriously?

I couldn't listen after that, but please do tell about "north and south" and "hemispheres" in a solar system?

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Jaxxxon

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I didn't make a comment about whether or not the video was correct. I merely gave an direct answer to a direct question about the possibility that they could all be wrong. And they can all be wrong.

But since your post seems to insinuate that they can't possibly all be wrong, please do tell us why they can't be wrong?

BTW, can you also explain how these "experts" at the 3:16 mark say this "dwarf star" passes from the "southern hemisphere of our solar system to the norther hemisphere"? Since when did solar systems have "hemispheres" or north and south? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Seriously?

I couldn't listen after that, but please do tell about "north and south" and "hemispheres" in a solar system?

Calm down... didn't mean to ruffled your tail feathers... this is all new to me. I don't know if these are experts or just average citizens trying to help.

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bravo75 15 years ago

These guys are trying to drum up a cult following and make an absolute fortune. Ala. Harold Camping.

Originally Posted by Jaxxxon

Calm down... didn't mean to ruffled your tail feathers... this is all new to me. I don't know if these are experts or just average citizens trying to help.
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Kurt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jaxxxon

Calm down... didn't mean to ruffled your tail feathers... this is all new to me. I don't know if these are experts or just average citizens trying to help.

Don't tell me to calm down, you have no clue as to my state of mind. As a matter of fact, I found your post and the video above to be hilarious, not stressful. I take it poker isn't your strong suit.

I answered your question, now answer mine.

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Jaxxxon

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Don't tell me to calm down, you have no clue as to my state of mind. As a matter of fact, I found your post and the video above to be hilarious, not stressful. I take it poker isn't your strong suit.

I answered your question, now answer mine.

Sheeeeesh... I'll just apologize and leave it at that. As for the question, the correct answer is, I don't know. The video isn't mine -- it was posted by someone else.

Ive been to seminars where professors, both specializing in the same field, get into disagreements over certain "facts". I wouldn't be able to allow myself to believe that they were both morons as some here would tend to "insinuate".

We are just people, some with degrees, some with mild curiosity, some just looking to get a rise out of everyone else -- but all bringing different perspectives to the table, gaining new perspectives, and maybe even learning something at the same time.

Some of you arrogant professor-genius-hotheads need your own forum to share your own special genius.

And by the way, "Kurt", I'd sweep the street with you in poker.

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Kurt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Jaxxxon

Sheeeeesh... I'll just apologize and leave it at that. As for the question, the correct answer is, I don't know. The video isn't mine -- it was posted by someone else.

You don't know yourself very well, do ya? And most people that "apologize" don't then go on to insult someone personally. There's a difference between criticizing a comment and insulting a person, you may want to educate yourself on the difference.

Ive been to seminars where professors, both specializing in the same field, get into disagreements over certain "facts". I wouldn't be able to allow myself to believe that they were both morons as some here would tend to "insinuate".

Yet you avoid my questions. Nice red herrings, professor, plus a classic example of a straw man fallacy. I didn't say EXPERTS "insinuate" anything. I said YOU "seem to". See the difference? Don't make up things, pretending that they are relevant.

We are just people, some with degrees, some with mild curiosity, some just looking to get a rise out of everyone else -- but all bringing different perspectives to the table, gaining new perspectives, and maybe even learning something at the same time.

Some of you arrogant professor-genius-hotheads need your own forum to share your own special genius.

And by the way, "Kurt", I'd sweep the street with you in poker.

Now I'm arrogant? Isn't the web a great thing where you can call people names and not have to worry about it? And you don't even have the spine to use a real name. Classic...So much for your "apology".

And judging by your inability to read people, I'm not too concerned about your claims to being able to play poker better than me.

Not to mention your total lack of logical thought. It's a common logical fallacy to call people names and use red herrings when one doesn't have anything intelligent to add, so instead they attack (ad hominem fallacy).

This is all because of your illogical assumption about my first post concerning them all not being able to be wrong. Judging by your posts, logic isn't your strong suit.

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bravo75

15 years ago

Bad day at the office, Kurt?

Originally Posted by Kurt

Don't tell me to calm down, you have no clue as to my state of mind. As a matter of fact, I found your post and the video above to be hilarious, not stressful. I take it poker isn't your strong suit.

I answered your question, now answer mine.

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Kurt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by bravo75

Bad day at the office, Kurt?

Nope, not at all.

But funny how you pick my post to comment on instead of the personal insult by Jaxxxon. My post really is more troublesome to you than his insults?

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bravo75

15 years ago

Think the guy was trying to hand you a bit of an olive branch. Just sayin'

Originally Posted by Kurt

Nope, not at all.

But funny how you pick my post to comment on instead of the personal insult by Jaxxxon. My post really is more troublesome to you than his insults?

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Candela

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

I didn't make a comment about whether or not the video was correct. I merely gave an direct answer to a direct question about the possibility that they could all be wrong. And they can all be wrong.

But since your post seems to insinuate that they can't possibly all be wrong, please do tell us why they can't be wrong?

BTW, can you also explain how these "experts" at the 3:16 mark say this "dwarf star" passes from the "southern hemisphere of our solar system to the norther hemisphere"? Since when did solar systems have "hemispheres" or north and south? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Seriously?

I couldn't listen after that, but please do tell about "north and south" and "hemispheres" in a solar system?

Good question,I would like to know the same thing,hemispheres in space???

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Fernando Veloso

15 years ago

Watching it now. Been following this issue for some months now, but really can't tell what the heck is right or wrong

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bravo75

15 years ago

September the 26th is my birthday. I knew I was special.

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bravo75

15 years ago

Absolute BS. Turn Elenin around and you get 9.11. WTF? does 911 have to do with space?

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seasoned

15 years ago

GOD, is that guy an IDIOT, or WHAT? He takes SO long to GOAD, speaks in monotone, etc.... If a white dwarf came close enough to PHSYICALLY hurt one side of the plant more than another, FORGET IT! Life, if it still existed, wouldn't be the same by that time.

HERE is what wikipedia says about them:

A white dwarf, also called a degenerate dwarf, is a small star composed mostly of electron-degenerate matter. They are very dense; a white dwarf's mass is comparable to that of the Sun and its volume is comparable to that of the Earth. Its faint luminosity comes from the emission of stored thermal energy.[1] In January 2009, the Research Consortium on Nearby Stars project counted eight white dwarfs among the hundred star systems nearest the Sun.[2] The unusual faintness of white dwarfs was first recognized in 1910 by Henry Norris Russell, Edward Charles Pickering, and Williamina Fleming;[3], p. 1 the name white dwarf was coined by Willem Luyten in 1922.[4]

SO, if he were even CLOSE to being right about the white dwarf. Close in this case could be even MILLIONS of miles off!!!!!! FORGET IT, everything else he says is WRONG!!!!!

I mean the sun is only about 93 million miles away! Only 10 light MINUTES!

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bravo75 15 years ago

I noticed his speech pattern as well. Reminds me a bit of George B. Jr. Ya, know, that domineering, commanding, pseudo factual drivel.
He must have taken a leaf out of Camping's book. I wonder how he's monetizing his site.

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speaks in monotone, etc....
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Kurt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

GOD, is that guy an IDIOT, or WHAT? He takes SO long to GOAD, speaks in monotone, etc.... If a white dwarf came close enough to PHSYICALLY hurt one side of the plant more than another, FORGET IT! Life, if it still existed, wouldn't be the same by that time.

HERE is what wikipedia says about them:

SO, if he were even CLOSE to being right about the white dwarf. Close in this case could be even MILLIONS of miles off!!!!!! FORGET IT, everything else he says is WRONG!!!!!

I mean the sun is only about 93 million miles away! Only 10 light MINUTES!

Steve

Even if it was true and it is a white dwarf, hiding in a cave isn't going to save anyone's butt...This guy is so bad it's funny.

But just in case, all you Aussies should immediately quit your jobs, give up your homes and everything else you've ever worked for and run for the hills!

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seasoned

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Even if it was true and it is a white dwarf, hiding in a cave isn't going to save anyone's butt...This guy is so bad it's funny.

But just in case, all you Aussies should immediately quit your jobs, give up your homes and everything else you've ever worked for and run for the hills!

I never meant to claim otherwise. A white dwarf could make this planet less viable than MARS! They are supposed to have HIGH MASS and HIGH GRAVITY. Maybe that idiot heard they were bad and a nice touch. A comet, meteor, asteroid, MAYBE! A white dwarf, red giant, or black hole, NO WAY!

My point is that it would be SO catastrophic, that it would affect the WHOLE planet. Maybe some life would exist, MAYBE, but it wouldn't be anything we could use, and we would be dead also. MAYBE you could hide in a VERY good submarine inside of a bomb shelter inside of several other bomb shelters under the ground, and enjoy the ride a bit. Following some kook into a cave just won't do it.

From my understanding, for me to be wrong here, they would have to change their understanding of gravity and or white dwarfs.

Steve

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Kurt

15 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

I never meant to claim otherwise. A white dwarf could make this planet less viable than MARS! They are supposed to have HIGH MASS and HIGH GRAVITY. Maybe that idiot heard they were bad and a nice touch. A comet, meteor, asteroid, MAYBE! A white dwarf, red giant, or black hole, NO WAY!

My point is that it would be SO catastrophic, that it would affect the WHOLE planet. Maybe some life would exist, MAYBE, but it wouldn't be anything we could use, and we would be dead also.

From my understanding, for me to be wrong here, they would have to change their understanding of gravity and or white dwarfs.

Steve

Steve,

I'm agreeing with your earlier post...Just adding some emphasis.

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gareth

15 years ago

I cant be bothered watching

can some body summarize

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synergyxtr

15 years ago

We are in Australia undergoing tech training. As of June 27 here nothing much happening. So its proven it is not true

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bravo75 15 years ago

I think muppet boy said something about the 26th of Sep.

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We are in Australia undergoing tech training. As of June 27 here nothing much happening. So its proven it is not true
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BlueIndigo

15 years ago

Jaxxxon: "...arrogant professor-genius-hotheads need your own forum to share your own special genius..."

Kurt: "Now I'm arrogant?"

The dialogue here is priceless! But back to the original topic... I watched the whole video, checked out others, then saw the NASA site, Fema Camps, Sumerian history, Annunaki, Jessie Ventura videos on underground bunkers, floods, tornadoes, tsunami's, overactive volcanoes... WOW.
Someone could build onto this stuff forever. What a spiral of conspiracy, or rather; how can one tell where "conspiracy" stops or starts?
I explored this rabbit hole for longer than I care to admit and I already know I could get sucked in for days if I allowed it. Real or not, true or false, it's time to step away from the computer, shake this stuff out of my head, and go play with my daughters.

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KateHunter

15 years ago

Can I get internet in this cave?
How will this affect Google's algorithm?
But seriously, in Australia it is not in our nature to worry about anything too serious, therefore I conclude that this dwarf star thingy won't come close enough to earth to do any damage. Might be some nice waves though, so get your surfboards and be ready to head for the coast.

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mattlaclear

15 years ago

"The effects of the comet on Earth at closest approach will be as inconsequential as that of a mosquito slamming head-on into an ocean-going supertanker."

Will Earthbound Comet Fulfill 2012 Prophecy? : Discovery News

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Fernando Veloso

15 years ago

Disclaimer: I am not an expert not want to be one.

But one word of advice for everyone: check the relation between ELENIN and major quakes when alignments happened between earth, elenin, the sun, etc etc.

I don't trust "cults" of any kind BUT some scientific data is important in this ELENIN issue...

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Kay King 15 years ago

Standard disaster thread formula - one person to post the video and another to come in and diss anyone who isn't a believer.

How dare people like Kurt confuse issues with silly astronomical facts.
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mattlaclear

15 years ago

I'm actually concerned how loudly kooks can make their voices be heard these days. It is rumored the boring sob who created the vid in the thread sells silver for a living. Now why would a silver vendor want to perpetuate an ele type of event? I'll give you three guesses.

$$$.

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mattlaclear

15 years ago

Folks...Elenin is a comet plain and simple. If it were a star with a heavier mass we would be able to see this mass by the way it interacts with the sun. It is behaving exactly as it should. So yes, it's a comet.

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Sunfyre7896

15 years ago

The people of Australia are mobilizing. Ha Ha. If this were to happen with a pole shift, everyone is screwed. Good luck. . . I love these kinds of things. I like to see how outlandish they can really get. They make for good reading.

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Roaddog

15 years ago

Every crackpot with an Internet connection...

Another one? ...let me see, I make it thru today's comet, then this, then 2012 and the Mayan aliens...

The only problem with all this. is it's like The Boy Who Cried Wolf...one day people really will need to evacuate and everyone will go "yea right", sit down and crack a beer.

I'm still working on what planet Howie Mandel is from and if they actually think he's funny there.

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Thomas

15 years ago

If you check the video on Youtube, the top-rated comment is:

"I would rather die, than live in a cave with you."

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BlueIndigo

15 years ago

Here's some water for this fire... (or kerosene, lol!)

Had to come back and check on this thread... and add a few WEIRD things I stumbled across.

I can honestly say that with sooooooooo much information on the web on this Elenin thing, I can see how a cult following can develop. Who do you believe if you don't have a high level of education in this area?

All you can then do is try to educate yourself, pronto, but then, once again, which studies are true?

Found this at another site:
First of all, NASA's "official" story: Comet Elenin: Preview of a Coming Attraction - NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory

http://gcn.gsfc.nasa.gov/gcn3/11133.gcn3
Discovered by: "Leonid Elenin"

define:leonid Leonids - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia -- a meteor shower from the constellation LEO

define:ele Ele - Google Search -- "Extinction Level Event"

Goofy coincidences, huh?

Elenin debunked -- and a nice photo of "Mr. Elenin" in the thread: http://www.disclose.tv/forum/comet-e...ed-t46623.html

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15 years ago

YouTube - ‪ELE 6/27 Gavin Point Dam...

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ThomM 15 years ago

So did you all leave yet?
I'm looking for a quite continent to rule.
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  What about the kangaroos?
  
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bravo75

15 years ago

If all the Ozies did leave, we could turn Australia into a prison again. Send all the riff-riff over there and place cameras everywhere. Reality TV Baby! Like that movie with Steve Austin and Vinnie Jones, "the Condemned".

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whateverpedia 15 years ago

Originally Posted by bravo75

Send all the riff-riff over there

You'll never get used to the climate here. Imagine, actual sunshine even in winter. No, you and your fellow "riff-riff" are better off where you are. :p
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Roaddog

15 years ago

The Aussies can't evacuate, they'd never find a place that speaks Australian.

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bravo75 15 years ago

There's only about 23,000,000 of them. Stick them in Canada somewhere and give them their own province. Plenty of space. They could have their own language and everything like the French.

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Lynette Crase

15 years ago

I think my head just exploded

I couldn't even get through the whole video. YAWN!

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bravo75 15 years ago

The guy who made the video should be in a padded cell.

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I think my head just exploded

I couldn't even get through the whole video. YAWN!
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gforces

15 years ago

Copied from the http://www.astronomyforum.net:

Anyone worried about Elenin - and whether it has the mass to affect Earth.....

It passed about half a lunar distance from asteroid 74732 just last week.
74732 is less than 3km in diameter - If Elenin WERE a brown dwarf star, or if it were orbiting a brown dwarf - 74732 would at least have been gravitationally captured, possibly even sucked it right in to a collision.
It didn't - they passed each other without incident and continued on their merry ways.

If it can't significantly affect a 3km asteroid from half a LD, it ain't gonna even remotely affect Earth from it's nearest approach of more than 80 LD

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