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Future of Internet Security?

by Kay King
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I just listened to an explanation of a new scientific development that promises to cloak events. Although the discussion focused on a "cloak of invisibility" it seemed to me this new advance could promise great internet security in the future.

Without going into the technical aspects, basically this new discovery would take a piece of information and transmits parts of it different directions at different speeds. Those parts would then meet and reassemble at the destination - this was explained by giving an example of a vehicle that might disappear and reappear in view. The focus of the discussion was on hiding physical things.

But what if that technology were applied online so personal information or searches were sent in different directions at different speeds. A hacker can't do much with 2 digits of a credit card or the year of birth without a date or month. By scattering the info into pieces and sending those pieces in a random pattern at random speeds (altering the speed of light) ...you could hide a lot of stuff.

This breakthrough will only mask an object currently for a tenth of a nanosecond but it would not take a long period of time for the application to be useful online, would it?

May be a far out theory - but it beats the latest murder in the neighborhood for conversation:p

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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Yes - I like that and DUH the time has come.

    It does sound a lot like encryption but in real time!

    In fact I think it sounds very good.

    (sorry but it reminds me of an old old story I read about 'transporting' and I can never remember the whole thing but something with getting in a transporter and expecting to arrive from New York to Hawaii - the only thing that arrived was the purse.)

    So I hope we don't see a lot of 2 digit fragments 'lost in space'.

    (lol)
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Patrician View Post

      Yes - I like that and DUH the time has come.

      It does sound a lot like encryption but in real time!

      In fact I think it sounds very good.

      (sorry but it reminds me of an old old story I read about 'transporting' and I can never remember the whole thing but something with getting in a transporter and expecting to arrive from New York to Hawaii - the only thing that arrived was the purse.)

      So I hope we don't see a lot of 2 digit fragments 'lost in space'.

      (lol)
      SSL encrypts in real time, and has been done for WELL over a DECADE! MOST encryption adds overhead, and the key can be LARGE. If we did that with 2 bytes on everything, like this, the fastest broadband will look WORSE than DIALUP!

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  • Profile picture of the author BloggingPro
    I have no idea why, but your post reminded me of that scene in Willy Wonka when they take the boy and "transmit" his body into the television by breaking him up into little peices and sending him to the TV where the pieces meet back up with each other.

    Not to take away from your post, but sounds like an interesting way to hide personal information.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Sounds similar to the way torrent files work.

    You download thousands of small chunks of data from thousands of locations on the net all at different speeds, then reassemble on your computer to create a whole file.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      ...yes, perhaps, but this operates at the mega atom level.

      What if it could work to provide privacy for cell phone conversations - logins - financial transactions. Could the day come when everything we do online some huge alternate internet is invisible to others?

      Maybe the big trick will be applying such a technology without laws being created to prevent you from using it
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        ...yes, perhaps, but this operates at the mega atom level.

        What if it could work to provide privacy for cell phone conversations - logins - financial transactions. Could the day come when everything we do online some huge alternate internet is invisible to others?

        Maybe the big trick will be applying such a technology without laws being created to prevent you from using it
        Do you have ANY idea how touchy cell phones are? I have seen enough packet problems to know that I wouldn't DARE to make it less efficient.

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author globalinformationnetwork
    I dont think anonymous will like this
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

    I just listened to an explanation of a new scientific development that promises to cloak events. Although the discussion focused on a "cloak of invisibility" it seemed to me this new advance could promise great internet security in the future.

    Without going into the technical aspects, basically this new discovery would take a piece of information and transmits parts of it different directions at different speeds. Those parts would then meet and reassemble at the destination - this was explained by giving an example of a vehicle that might disappear and reappear in view. The focus of the discussion was on hiding physical things.

    But what if that technology were applied online so personal information or searches were sent in different directions at different speeds. A hacker can't do much with 2 digits of a credit card or the year of birth without a date or month. By scattering the info into pieces and sending those pieces in a random pattern at random speeds (altering the speed of light) ...you could hide a lot of stuff.

    This breakthrough will only mask an object currently for a tenth of a nanosecond but it would not take a long period of time for the application to be useful online, would it?

    May be a far out theory - but it beats the latest murder in the neighborhood for conversation:p

    kay
    There are SO many flaws in this theory that it is INCREDIBLE!

    1. FIRST of all, you can NOT transmit bytes over the internet. It would be WAY too inefficient, and you HAVE to know WHERE they are coming from. That requires like 10 bytes. How would YOU like to buy a 10Mbps interface, and find that the MAXIMUM throughput is less than .1MBps?

    2. FEW systems have more than 1 connection, let alone dozens!
    3. Transferring plain text is MORONIC, and would DOOM an attempt to do this to FAILURE in most venues!

    So HOW do credit card systems work? The visitors system connects to the target via IP, and gets a public key. It then modifies it with a private key, and communciates such that text is garbled. This is known as Secure Socket Layer, or SSL for short. It then sends out a PACKET that is large enough that the header doesn't have a major impact on speed.

    BTW Torrent works with large packets ALSO! The REASON is because several sources reduces the chance of a failure hurting the download much. Several connections helps increase overall speed, and reduce impact. If one source slows things down too much, it can switch to another. Torrent is NOT made to be anonymous, but to increase speed.

    Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author SuccessWarrior
    I found in some research just earlier today that firewall only blocks 30% of attacks.

    And AV only protects 10%.

    And 71% of all malware comes from legitimate websites.

    Yeah, we are definitely due for some major advances in internet security.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by SuccessWarrior View Post

      I found in some research just earlier today that firewall only blocks 30% of attacks.

      And AV only protects 10%.

      And 71% of all malware comes from legitimate websites.

      Yeah, we are definitely due for some major advances in internet security.
      Well, the proposal in the OP WILL make malware less likely. It may take a decade to do a years worth of transfers. Of course, MALWARE won't throttle, so the GOOD transfers will just be that much slower STILL!

      HEY, I have NOT heard of a SINGLE breakin due to SSL failing, so WHY try to replace IT!?!?!?!?

      Steve
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