This marketer has BS for brains...

by Joshua Rigley Banned

Posted: 14 years ago 16 replies

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So the other day, I got an email that said something to the effect of "$1,000 in 7 days? BS!", except they used actual profanity. Personally, I find it offensive when people use profanity in this manner (trying to shock people into opening their emails). What's worse, it was a deceptive headline, because the first line of their email read, "okay, not really..."

So basically they were saying, "This is a scam! But not really..."

Needless to say, I unsubscribed right away. I even filled out the feedback form to let them know why. I got a "confirmation email" saying that I had been unsubscribed from their list.

Then, this morning, I got the EXACT same email from the same marketer. This time I unsubscribed, checked the "report spam" in the feedback form, and also hit the "report spam" button in gmail. So now if they try to send any email to me, it'll go straight to the spam box.

It's amazing how short-sighted and how stupid some marketers are. Personally, I think this guy needs to be taught that "no means no".

I know most of you reading this would never try to pull that crap. But in case there are some newbies who are wondering how to build a responsive list, then this is a good example of what you shouldn't do.

Okie, rant over. Have a nice day everyone.

#brains #marketer

d0rhk 14 years ago

This is why I'm not on any IM lists... I couldnt take it anymore. The constant bombardment with stupid emails day after day.
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George Wright

14 years ago

I agree with your point of view on the language, however if this was a list you subscribed to it was wrong to report spam especially to his auto responder. You should have just unsubscribed. If you opted in it wasn't spam regardless of how you or I feel about the offensive language. If you didn't opt in then of course, report spam.

George Wright

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Joshua Rigley

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by George Wright

I agree with your point of view on the language, however if this was a list you subcribed to it was wrong to report spam especiall to his auto responder. You should have just unsubscribed. If you opted in it wasn't spam regardless of how you or I feel about the offensive language. If you didn't opt in then of course, report spam.

George Wright

I agree with you 100% George. Except the funny thing is, I don't remember ever subscribing to his list. I strongly suspect I was automatically subscribed after I purchased one of his products.

When I unsubscribed the first time, I didn't hit the spam button. When he sent me the same email again, even after I had unsubscribed, I decided that qualified as spam, and reported it as such.

And I don't think it will make much of a difference, actually. It looks like he hosts his own autoresponder, because their contact information is the same as his.

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George Wright 14 years ago

So sorry, I should have known you would have gone through the right steps. See what happens when I have only had my 3rd cup of coffee, can't think straight. BRB with my 4th cup.

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CDarklock

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Joshua Rigley

What's worse, it was a "bait-and-switch" tactic

"Bait and switch" is when one product is advertised, but a different product is sold.

It would be bait and switch if the subject said "Coca-Cola for $5 a case!" and then when you opened the email it said "You'll never find that deal, but you can buy this generic crap cola for $5 a case."

It is not bait and switch if the subject line says "This product is gay!" and then the body of the email says "Well, not really. Not that there's anything wrong with that."

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Joshua Rigley

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by CDarklock

Thanks for pointing that out, Caliban. I fixed it for ya. It just really irks me when someone calls something a "scam" to get the click, only to backtrack on it and promote the "scammy product" with their affiliate link.

I wonder if it's occurred to these people that it doesn't reflect well on your reputation when you promote a scam.

Idiots. Every last one of them.

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Suthan M 14 years ago

Bait and switch (BnS) does not really just apply for "paid products" . There is a lot of contexts that it can be applied for even advertising or "non retail use".

Ex:
Dating sites that attracts you to register with fake hot pic profile and when you register, that is BS. That's BnS
IM companies that release "pre-release" product in beta, and then in full launch, take parts or some functions out and putting them as paid product- that's BnS
Hosting companies that says unlimited hosting and then charge you for using more than your fair use- that's BnS too.
Providing false PPC reviews such as "Mr So and So Sucks" and when you click on it, and it says "Hey, he doesn't- and you shoudl buy his product" thats BnS too. Remember the big hurrah when John Reese released Traffic Secrets few years ago and ban any affiliate that did this kind of promo?

In this case- the OPs case is considered BnS also (some will say the line blurs at creative email marketing) - as it involves recommendation that is done with commercial intent.

That said, OP- Have you ever thought about registering in two different email list? That's what prolly happened. I once unsubbed from Trey Smith list, and got a SECOND one the next day! Then i realised i unsubbed his icontact list and not his aweber list.

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- Danny McConnell 14 years ago
  
  Now I'm not sure, but I wonder if you weren't on two separate lists held by the same marketer. I know I have had that happen on occasion.
  
  Not that it's not annoying that they can't figure it out for themselves, but that might not technically make the second email spam.
  
  Of course, I got that same swipe from several different lists, and it was certainly annoying if not tasteless...
  
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fishan 14 years ago

My view is ..

Maybe someone is starting out in internet marketing and he/she does not know where to start. Or perhaps, a guru has given advise to find a product.. Maybe the guru you subscribe to gave him his mailing list too and you happened to be on that list..

Maybe someone's e-mail account was jacked and your details were in that account..

I received an e-mail from a friend only recently telling me that he made $10k last week. I was very curious so I rang him immediately. He knew nothing about the e-mail message. So, anything is possible.

Your $100 per day WSO. Is it making you $100 per day please?

Thanks and I look forward to your reply.

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TheGP 14 years ago

Yes, that totally stupid, i think i've seen that type of marketers too..
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- Michael Shook 14 years ago
  
  If by chance you sign up to attend a webinar, you are often (I don't know for sure always) signed up to an email list. For sure you are on a list to get the login info, but whether that list is ever used again, that I don't know.
  
  Occasionally, if you get an email from one person promoting as an affilaite and you have to sign up for a free report, you will get on another list of that person who is doing the actual selling.
  
  Then if you get an email from the seller and sign up for a different free report for the same product launch, you will be put onto another list. And if the person sending the emails, sends out a different email to each of their lists, you will wind up with a lot of mail.
  
  I don't know for sure, but I suspect this happens more often in IM or MMO than in something like - learn Spanish.
  
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Riggs

14 years ago

Eat your heart out. I got an email last night stating I'd won the Nigerian lottery and I've just got back from the Post Office after sending off my $1,500 processing fee.

I'll be on a beach in the Bahamas in no time, suckers.

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HeySal

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Riggs

Ah - just the target..er..um....person I'd like to talk to about a very special secret I have about the Nigerian lottery which I will share with you alone for the small fee of only $1,250 - even less than you paid to collect your...your....um...winnings. I promise that the information will blow your mind.

*salacious grin*

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fishan 14 years ago

Hello ..

Did you say Nigerian lottery..? That is what I thought.

Good luck and happy hunting. Please update us from Bahamas..

Oh .. one cautionary point of advise for you. Don't spend your winnings yet.

Fishan
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trevor75 14 years ago

Just ignore marketers like that. For every good Im'er there is 15,000 idiots who will do anything to get your attention.
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Justin Says 14 years ago

Good share. A lot of the time I signup to a list just to see how they go about things. I haven't dabbled too much into lists but there are so many things I'm against and I see tons of marketers making mistakes.

Here are a few example titles:

RE: This offer rocks.

$15,000 in a Day with 5 minutes of total work

%#@!$ crazy right?

And there are many more, but I really hate when people use this type of stuff to grab my attention. I don't mind it just saying "Hello" or something, but when it's deceptive.. ugh.
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