We all die in 2013? Markerter now prophet of doom?

by Jeff Burritt Banned
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Does this bother anyone else besides me? Every year there's another sky-falling prediction. Where's the purpose in that?

For example, there's a well-known Guru, we won't name And I personally don't know guru X. So, he killed it in the early days of Google adsense, bla bla bla. Ok cool. He made a bunch of money, but does that mean he can predict the future now?

If you don't know, his website is basically a high-end sales funnel with a monthly membership. It teaches us groundlings about how we should go buy gold and silver and food and guns and dig a hole somewhere to wait out the coming hyper-inflation meltdown.

He wants to shoot some lead in his Austin backyard, fine. I don't care. It is Texas afterall. But why all the fear mongering? What's the benefit in that, besides selling his program?

The average person, myself included, does not have the resources to acquire enough life insurance, raw land, herds of goats...etc...to become self-sustainable. So why even torment yourself thinking about it? You'll just lose sleep, and lose focus on making money in IM.

I'm not just slamming on Mr. Guru. It's not personal. He's a successful marketer. And he's probably a great human being. I'm just critiquing whether fear-marketing at such a high level is morally justified.

Is it really a call for people to prepare themselves, or just a doomsday marketing campaign, that preys upon people's fear?

And it doesn't really help the little guy.

So why do it?

Well to make him more money sure.

Or, maybe, just maybe he's a modern day Noah, and this is his ark?

Guess we'll see come 2013

For now, Happy New 2012!

Jeff
#2013 #die #dillard #doom #elevation #mike #prophet
  • Profile picture of the author KenFighter
    I thought you gonna discuss about 'world last chance' lol
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  • Profile picture of the author KenFighter
    According to our believe world will come to an end because the date ( 1 and 15 on our calender drop on friday ) which is in our believe said it will be a big disaster on that date...
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  • Profile picture of the author voldalin
    People who listen to garbage like this have given up already. It's best to ignore people who feed off others fears and enjoy life and have fun. I'm sure he's selling some secret report that will save your life if you send him the money.
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    • Profile picture of the author KenFighter
      Originally Posted by voldalin View Post

      People who listen to garbage like this have given up already. It's best to ignore people who feed off others fears and enjoy life and have fun. I'm sure he's selling some secret report that will save your life if you send him the money.
      ... You words make me

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  • Profile picture of the author steven Clayden
    From the moment we are born, we are dying. Get used to it, no avoiding it.
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  • You know. I first started buying in all this fear. Economy is going to hell, "Europe bankrupted" and so many other bad news and predictions. Finally, I just didn't start giving a **** anymore.

    I will survive.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
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      Agreed. I'll take sanity over insanity. The desire to live, survive, move on...is one of the greatest human attributes.


      Originally Posted by Thecolouredpenguin View Post

      You know. I first started buying in all this fear. Economy is going to hell, "Europe bankrupted" and so many other bad news and predictions. Finally, I just didn't start giving a **** anymore.

      I will survive.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    People have been predicting the end of the world for centuries. If it happens, I'm ready. In the meantime why not figure out what people who believe it are looking for and sell it to them? Isn't that what business is all about?
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      Some people will die in 2013.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
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        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Some people will die in 2013.

        LOL. Ah yes, there's often a simple truth hiding in our fears.

        And finding the humor in it, a gift. Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author UptonGoodwin
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Some people will die in 2013.
        Stop fear mongering please!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Some people will die in 2013.
        And some more Will in 2014.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
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      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      People have been predicting the end of the world for centuries. If it happens, I'm ready. In the meantime why not figure out what people who believe it are looking for and sell it to them? Isn't that what business is all about?

      Selling maps that show the flat earth ends 100 miles off the coast of Spain is fine business for 1491.
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      • Profile picture of the author DaveLloyd
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        Some people will die in 2013.
        Unless, of course, the doom mongers are right, and we are all, already dead by the end of 2012!

        Originally Posted by Jeff Burritt View Post

        Selling maps that show the flat earth ends 100 miles off the coast of Spain is fine business for 1491.
        Damn! I wish you had told me that before I went and bought a lorry load of them. How am I going to shift them now?

        All the 'End of the World' prophecies todate have been wrong! I don't see this one being any different.

        Dave
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        • Profile picture of the author abdulquddus
          I don't believe it.... Enjoy
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Originally Posted by Jeff Burritt View Post

    He's a successful marketer. I'm just criticizing his current doomsday marketing campaign. It's negative. It preys upon people's fear.
    You answered your own question - he's a marketer.

    Many people love the "give them an itch to scratch" marketing model where you highlight their pain in order to sell them a solution.

    Although I also buy gold and silver and can see the world going downhill, I don't buy into the whole scare mongering and negative mindset stuff.

    We're all going to die at some point anyway - so if you're that worried about it you'd already be going out of your mind.

    I think that there's a lot of value in buying small amounts of gold/silver on a regular basis as even if the economy picks up it's still a solid investment and you can start at tiny levels. It's the same as with any savings - the sooner you start - the sooner your small amounts can start building for you.

    I would never join any program that wanted to focus on how bad things are - that's a recipe for missing out on enjoying your life.

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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    I thought it was going to be all over in 2012?

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    • Profile picture of the author Geraldm
      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      I thought it was going to be all over in 2012?
      Yeah ditto, I thought it was all supposed to come to an end on 12/21/2012?
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      • Profile picture of the author wikiblaster
        Who knows what day will be your last....might as well make the most of every day you have!
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    Geez, I recall going outside earlier in the year to watch the rapture. I expected to be left behind as I don't go to church, but NOTHING HAPPENED. I was looking forward to seeing my neighbors float up and away! A big disappointment...
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  • No man knows the end, so keep cool and stop using such topics to get much attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Al
    Everyone has a right to their opinion and no one has to buy his stuff.

    Personally I don't buy into the doom & gloom and I think learning to diversify and be self-sufficient is a good thing when done for positive reasons rather than out of fear and negativity.

    Thing is... no body knows for sure and *if* they're right they'll have the last laugh
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerdrun
    Ryan deiss did that too remember. Some gurus just want to make the biggest launch possible. That's why they try stuff like it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
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      Originally Posted by tylerdrun View Post

      Ryan deiss did that too remember. Some gurus just want to make the biggest launch possible. That's why they try stuff like it.

      Yes, and Ryan is still predicting Google will shut all the little guys down soon. His advice boils down to, don't be a little guy, be a big guy like me and you're safe. Really? Thank you Ryan, I feel better now.
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  • Profile picture of the author KenFighter
    Every body here talking like they don't afraid about death...

    1- Paradise - Million better place than earth
    2- Hell - Live In burn

    I wish im going to paradise... ( i don't know how much good im ade.. Only God knows )
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    • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
      Originally Posted by KenFighter View Post

      Every body here talking like they don't afraid about death...

      1- Paradise - Million better place than earth
      2- Hell - Live In burn

      I wish im going to paradise... ( i don't know how much good im ade.. Only God knows )
      I'm afraid of death! But I don't really believe in anything so I doubt I'm going anyway.

      I'm wondering if this Elevation Group guy believes this himself or if he's just trying to make money by scaring gullible people?
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      • Profile picture of the author KenFighter
        Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

        I'm afraid of death! But I don't really believe in anything so I doubt I'm going anyway.

        I'm wondering if this Elevation Group guy believes this himself or if he's just trying to make money by scaring gullible people?
        We can't afraid of elevation group guy.. Sooner or later we'll meet the death too...

        Let's make a good things and only God knows when the day will come.. Not human being... :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Zero
    Originally Posted by Jeff Burritt View Post

    Does this bother anyone else besides me?

    I personally don't know guru Mike. So, he killed it in the early days of Google adsense, bla bla bla. Ok cool. You made a bunch of money, but does that mean you can predict the future now?

    If you don't know, his Elevation Group is basically a high-end sales funnel with a monthly membership. It teaches us groundlings about how we should go buy gold and silver and food and guns and dig a hole somewhere to wait out the coming hyper-inflation meltdown.

    He wants to shoot some lead in his Austin backyard, fine. I don't care. It is Texas afterall. But why all the fear mongering? What's the benefit in that, besides selling his program?

    The average person, myself included, does not have the resources to acquire enough life insurance, raw land, herds of goats...etc...to become self-sustainable. So why even torment yourself thinking about it? You'll just lose sleep, and lose focus on making money in IM.

    I'm not just slamming on Mike. He's a successful marketer. I'm just criticizing his current doomsday marketing campaign. It's negative. It preys upon people's fear. And it doesn't really help the little guy.

    So why do it?

    Well to make him more money sure.

    Or, maybe, just maybe he's a modern day Noah, and this is his ark?

    Guess we'll see come 2013

    For now, Happy New 2012!

    Jeff
    Its not preying on people's fears. He's only reporting what many have already been saying, the same people who were warning of the meltdown in 2008 - years before it happenned, people who at the time were dismissed as doom mongers, and this time the situation is even worse, the financial system is dangerously unstable.

    Its smart to be prepared for any eventuality, especially a collapse of the current financial system, which isn't as far fetctched as some would like to believe.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    The end is always the beginning of something else.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Well, for one thing there is a difference between the "end of the world" and a financial collapse. Which is he marketing?

    IF the end of the world is near - what the hell sense does it make to prepare for it? End of the world means we're not going to survive it anyway. Kinda stupid to spend all your last days preparing to get inevitably wiped off the map. If this is what he's marketing, people are nuts to bother with it.

    A financial collapse does take preparation to survive. A financial collapse is not a certainty, but it is a possibility. It is also one that there is better chance of coming through with preparation. I see nothing wrong with knowing how to live if a society collapses. Throughout history, societies have collapsed. I don't see how preparedness is "fear mongering". Do you call someone teaching earthquake safety also "fear mongering"? You might never be in an earthquake, but isn't it better to know how to be prepared than not if you end up experiencing one? What about knowing how to survive if you get stranded somewhere? I know of people who die every year because they go off into the mountains with no emergency supplies thinking that all they need is their cell phones - they get stranded and can't get reception or their battery dies, and so do they. I find thinking you do not need to be prepared for emergencies of any nature an ideology that is severely divorced from the nature of this planet.

    We're in very uncertain economic and political circumstances right now. Being prepared for the worst is not a bad idea. You might never need the information - but if you do, it's good to have it.

    It's a shame that people have come to equate any form of preparedness with end of the world hysteria. There is not one whit of scientific evidence that the world is coming to an end. Many respected economists agree we are on the verge of financial (as well as political structure) collapse. So which of these is it that I would find Mike talking about if I were to go to his site?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
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      Good points. It's hard to tell whether he's marketing sound financial "be prepared" strategies, or if he's just marketing fear in order to get people to join his membership program. From a marketing perspective, probably both. Although, he'd say he's definitely leaning towards the former.

      My head tells me, you're smart to know what to do in an emergency, whether earthquake, lost in the woods, etc.

      My gut tells me, when it comes to complete financial collapse, he's just guessing like everybody else.

      My heart tells me, there's something fishy/wrong with the whole angle.

      Life's a balance. A good dose of realism, and being prepared never hurt anybody. Shouting 'fire' in a crowded theater might. But what if there's smoke? Then what?

      Is there enough smoke in the air, to yell 'financial collapse coming?'

      Because, I believe that's what he's doing.




      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Well, for one thing there is a difference between the "end of the world" and a financial collapse. Which is he marketing?

      IF the end of the world is near - what the hell sense does it make to prepare for it? End of the world means we're not going to survive it anyway. Kinda stupid to spend all your last days preparing to get inevitably wiped off the map. If this is what he's marketing, people are nuts to bother with it.

      A financial collapse does take preparation to survive. A financial collapse is not a certainty, but it is a possibility. It is also one that there is better chance of coming through with preparation. I see nothing wrong with knowing how to live if a society collapses. Throughout history, societies have collapsed. I don't see how preparedness is "fear mongering". Do you call someone teaching earthquake safety also "fear mongering"? You might never be in an earthquake, but isn't it better to know how to be prepared than not if you end up experiencing one? What about knowing how to survive if you get stranded somewhere? I know of people who die every year because they go off into the mountains with no emergency supplies thinking that all they need is their cell phones - they get stranded and can't get reception or their battery dies, and so do they. I find thinking you do not need to be prepared for emergencies of any nature an ideology that is severely divorced from the nature of this planet.

      We're in very uncertain economic and political circumstances right now. Being prepared for the worst is not a bad idea. You might never need the information - but if you do, it's good to have it.

      It's a shame that people have come to equate any form of preparedness with end of the world hysteria. There is not one whit of scientific evidence that the world is coming to an end. Many respected economists agree we are on the verge of financial (as well as political structure) collapse. So which of these is it that I would find Mike talking about if I were to go to his site?
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      • Profile picture of the author ThomM
        My gut tells me, when it comes to complete financial collapse, he's just guessing like everybody else.
        I don't know about him Jeff, but many economist who know about such things say it's a given if we continue on the same path.
        This is a kind of funny take on it all, even if it does explain things rather well
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  • Profile picture of the author Roaddog

    Different marketers, will just market it differently....something I found at the end of the web




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    The Wall Street Journal: DOW JONES PLUMMETS AS WORLD ENDS

    National Enquirer: O.J. AND NICOLE, TOGETHER AGAIN

    Playboy: GIRLS OF THE APOCALYPSE

    Microsoft Systems Journal: APPLE LOSES MARKET SHARE

    Victoria's Secret Catalog: OUR FINAL SALE

    Sports Illustrated: GAME OVER

    Wired: THE LAST NEW THING

    Rolling Stone: THE GRATEFUL DEAD REUNION TOUR

    Readers Digest: 'BYE

    Discover Magazine: HOW WILL THE EXTINCTION OF ALL LIFE AS WE KNOW IT AFFECT THE WAY WE VIEW THE COSMOS?

    TV Guide: DEATH AND DAMNATION: NIELSEN RATINGS SOAR!

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    America Online: SYSTEM TEMPORARILY DOWN. TRY CALLING BACK IN 15 MINUTES.

    Inc. magazine: TEN WAYS YOU CAN PROFIT FROM THE APOCALYPSE

    Microsoft's Web Site: IF YOU DIDN'T EXPERIENCE THE RAPTURE, DOWNLOAD SOFTWARE PATCH RAPT777.EXE.
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  • Profile picture of the author RealMikeDillard
    You know Jeff, I'm so taken aback by your ignorance, I really don't know what to say... The lack of responsibility you have shown in this post is beyond compare.

    As you stated yourself, you don't know me. At all. Yet you've taken it upon yourself to twist my entire life into pure rumor.

    1: I have never made money with "adsense" as you claim. In fact, I've never even personally used adsense. Ever.

    2: The Elevation Group is not a "high-end sales funnel". There is no "funnel". There is one membership that costs $597.00 per year, which is $1.60 per day.

    That's less than BUS FAIR. Hardly "high-end" as you portray it to be.

    3: EVG is NOT about "doom and gloom". The simple fact that you state this tells me that you've never even watched my webinar, and that you've never actually joined as a Member. Both of which mean that you have NO GROUND what-so-ever, to have an opinion about EVG.

    Hell, if you had even taken 5 minutes to watch the registration page video at TheElevationGroup.net, you'd know right then and there that EVG is about PROSPERITY.

    4: If you HAD actually experienced The Elevation Group, you'd know that it is 100% about OPPORTUNITY. It's about empowering the middle class with the knowledge and skills to turn challenging economic times into PROSPERITY. It's about building your family UP, so that you have NOTHING to FEAR. It's is about the SILVER LINING which is always found in dark clouds.

    And yet all you can focus on this is fact that I've recommended that people prepare themselves for any kind of emergency. Wow... We'll let's see if you're right Jeff by actually looking at what we've covered in EVG...

    5: We've held 16 Lessons in the first 12 months of EVG... Out of those 16 lessons, 1 is about GOLD, and 1 is about preparedness. That's 2 out of 16. The remaining 14 are about INVESTING and OPPORTUNITIES found around the world today from real estate, to IRA's, to starting a home business, to taxes, to infinite banking... All of which have nothing to do with "doom and gloom", and everything to do with abundance...

    And yet you have the gall to come on here in a public forum and call myself and EVG a company that prays on people's fears? That's all about guns and gold and hiding in a bunker?

    You should be embarrassed and ashamed of yourself for creating pure rumor. Maybe I should fabricate a story about you and your business or your life? How would that make you feel when you see someone making stuff up about you in public Jeff?

    If you were actually an EVG Member and went through the lessons, yet still did not get value from the program, you can come on here and state whatever opinion you have because it would be based on actual EXPERIENCE.

    Right here, right now... This post is a fabricated LIE based on your personal ASSUMPTIONS.


    Mike Dillard
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
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      Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

      Can't play the video....says "this video is private"
      ok, public. Try it again.
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      • Profile picture of the author RealMikeDillard
        Yes this is really me Jeff. I'm on vacation with my family for New Years, and I have no need or desire to waste my time recording a video at your request.

        Normally I would not bother to respond to this kind of garbage, but you crossed a line and I've decided to stand up for myself and set the record straight.

        If you want a personal email, post yours here and I will reply.

        Mike

        P.S I found your post through my Google Alerts.
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    Does this mean I should postpone my after-the-meltdown party?



    Sorry, couldn't resist.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrislangley
    Doomsday these day sells pretty well, especially with 2012 upon us, watch out for the plethora of websites predicting the end
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  • Profile picture of the author Eutaw
    I am not sure on the "end of the world" stuff, but I did get a chance to view The Elevation Group. A friend of mine is a member and let me login and look at Mike Dillard's financial program. It is total garbage. All theory and basically it says to buy gold and silver. Mike Dillard is not a stockbroker or financial guru so getting advice in this format is a joke. I feel bad for all the people that are paying the monthly $97. It is like most programs...nobody uses the program...you just sell the program. Hope everyone has a great 2012.
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      To the OP.....



      The main overriding rule for this forum is this:

      Rule #1

      If you have a problem with another Warrior, a Guru, or God, take it up with them directly. Not here. No exceptions.


      This thread is becoming a textbook example of WHY!
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  • Profile picture of the author paintingsgalore22
    FAKE. . No one knows when will the world end really.. Only God knows!
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  • Profile picture of the author r0ny
    if God is not existing ,No one will know about it lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Ditfort
    The world will not end, this is all nonesense. Just because the calender ends doesn't mean the world will end. The calender is ending because it will restart. I have proof of this. and No one can predict the future. There is no future, your thoughts create your own future, there is no past or future or NOW.

    If this interests you and you'd like to know more here is an awesome report.
    At this website Our Ultimate Reality you'll see truth about 2012 report and it's free to download.

    But trust me if anyone thinks the world will end because the calendar ends it just stupid. People have have took it that way but the mayas never intended it to seen like that. Anyways people believe what they believe.

    But download the report it'll help shed some light.

    Chris.Ditfort
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  • Profile picture of the author Eutaw
    Just enjoy each day and work hard. That's about it. We might not agree with everything, but the world will be here for a LONG time. Look for the stock market to dip hard in about 2 years....then climb higher again.
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