Europe

14 years ago

Oh sure, it's pretty and everything Mark - but it's awfully 'European', don't you think?

j/k mate, it's beautiful...I'm going to look into Spain a bit more...with the economy the way it is, there's a lot of party for the peso...how are the coastal towns around there?

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Mark Andrews

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

Oh sure, it's pretty and everything Mark - but it's awfully 'European', don't you think?

j/k mate, it's beautiful...I'm going to look into Spain a bit more...with the economy the way it is, there's a lot of party for the peso...

Check out Galica in north western Spain above Portugal, it's one of the undiscovered gems of Europe. Cheap property prices too. I'll be down that way in late April on my European road trip.

For example...

You could buy this place for just 575,000 Euros (USD $760,000)

More details here...

Sales of rustic, rural, country and coastal houses in Galicia NW. Spain

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Or if something simpler suits your personal taste...

You could have the above property for only 52,000 Euros (USD $69,000).

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Give me the 2nd option any day, it's just beautiful. I love it. Naturally it comes with it's own traditional horreos too.

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saggsee

14 years ago

I can nearly afford the 2nd one and that to me would suit me down to the ground....Though as me in the UK there is still plenty of lovely places here to hide... my plan for this year buy a narrow boat and cruise the uk waterways....great photos

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Mark Andrews

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by saggsee

I can nearly afford the 2nd one and that to me would suit me down to the ground....Though as me in the UK there is still plenty of lovely places here to hide... my plan for this year buy a narrow boat and cruise the uk waterways....great photos

Narrow boat? I've been trying to convince copywriter Arfa Saira to buy one for ages. I love them. Lived on one briefly whilst staying at Oxford.

They're beautiful and if cruising... a gorgeous way to see the countryside glide by at 4mph.

Crossing an aqueduct in a narrowboat... (Wales UK)

And from Scotland a marvel of Victorian engineering the Falkirk Wheel Lift...

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Michael Ten

14 years ago

Wow. That is amazing. You have inspired me.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

14 years ago

That would be the way to go! Didn't Richard Branson used to live on a narrowboat?

You could posh one of those up, and go in style...

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Kurt

14 years ago

Hey Mark,

There's no denying Europe has some great scenery, but consider where I live is surrounded by Rocky Mountain National Park and Roosevelt National Forest.

For me...It's a case of why travel across the globe when I can look out my window or drive for 10 minutes and see some of the most spectacular views in the World?

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Mark Andrews

Banned 14 years ago

Last time I checked America wasn't in Europe.

Correct me if I'm wrong? :rolleyes:

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Kurt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Andrews

Last time I checked America wasn't in Europe.

Correct me if I'm wrong? :rolleyes:

Correct me if I'm wrong, in your OP you said:

It often amazes me how few North Americans have never contemplated visiting Europe.

I responded to your comment with my reason why...Although most of us have contenplated traveling to Europe, so your premise is incorrect.

North and Central America are also beautiful, with a lot of diversity in climates and scenary. Alaska and Hawaii pretty much cover the entire range...Las Vegas, The Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Maine, the swamps of Lousiana...Tons of places to visit and things to see.

Why don't you consider visiting here? While Europe has more history, we have more wild life. Ever had elk walk through your yard or had to chase a bear out away from your trash cans? Ever seen big horn sheep scale a cliff wall?

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Mark Andrews

Banned 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

Correct me if I'm wrong, in your OP you said:

I responded to your comment with my reason why...Although most of us have contenplated traveling to Europe, so your premise is incorrect.

North and Central America are also beautiful, with a lot of diversity in climates and scenary. Alaska and Hawaii pretty much cover the entire range...Las Vegas, The Grand Canyon, Yosemite, Maine, the swamps of Lousiana...Tons of places to visit and things to see.

Why don't you consider visiting here? While Europe has more history, we have more wild life. Ever had elk walk through your yard or had to chase a bear out away from your trash cans? Ever seen big horn sheep scale a cliff wall?

Oh for pete's sake, what's wrong with you Kurt?

The thread isn't about America, it's about Europe. What is there not to understand? It's not a bloody competition. :rolleyes:

America, have I been there before?

Yes, do you want me to reel off all the places I've been to? Let's just say 14 states in total. Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, Utah, Idaho, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Montana, Illinois - do you really want me to go on? And many of those states more than once.

I've traveled extensively across a hell of a lot of north America whilst working as a private consultant for the senior vice president of Wells Fargo Bank. All expenses paid. Clear now?

Please would you kindly desist from further clowning around? It seriously gets on ones nerves. Let me spell it out for you, the thread is about Europe NOT America, okay?

Good grief.

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  Ohrid (city) in Europe country of Macedonia is notable for having once had 365 churches, one for each day of the year and has been referred to as a "Jerusalem".
  
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Kurt

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Andrews

Oh for pete's sake, what's wrong with you Kurt?

The thread isn't about America, it's about Europe. What is there not to understand? It's not a bloody competition. :rolleyes:

America, have I been there before?

Yes, do you want me to reel off all the places I've been to? Let's just say 14 states in total. Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, Utah, Idaho, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Montana, Illinois - do you really want me to go on? And many of those states more than once.

I've traveled extensively across a hell of a lot of north America whilst working as a private consultant for the senior vice president of Wells Fargo Bank. All expenses paid. Clear now?

Please would you kindly desist from further clowning around? It seriously gets on ones nerves. Let me spell it out for you, the thread is about Europe NOT America, okay?

Good grief.

No Mark...This thread is about what posters what it do be about. You have a distorted definition of what the entire OFF TOPIC forum is about.

BTW, I politely, even used a smiley, explained to you my reason. But like I said, I have contenplated traveling to Europe. But the reason wouldn't be the history or the scenerary, it would be the people, excluding you of course.

And had you responded in a friendly, civil way, as my first post on this thread was intended, it would have been my last post on this thread. Ironic, huh?

You think it was a competition. It wasn't. It was an explanation.

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Mark Andrews Banned 14 years ago

I give up.

The thread may as well be closed.
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- Kurt 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Mark Andrews
  
  I give up.
  
  The thread may as well be closed.
  
  Maybe you'll learn to ignore people/posts you don't agree with, instead of trying to control and insult them into doing what you want. Trust me, that won't work with many people, including me.
  
  You really must have a sense of entitlement if you feel "your" thread is the only one to ever have been diverted. It happens to all of us...especially in the Off Topic. The rest of us accept it and deal with it.
  
  And while you claim this thread is "about" Europe, I went by what you actually wrote in your OP and thought it was about why Americans didn't "contemplate" about going to Europe. I suggest you reread your OP and see if you can understand why I may have interpreted it that way and then maybe you can understand why I made my first post.
  
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  Paul Myers 14 years ago
  
  especially in the Off Topic.
  
  Drift happens.
  
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  Mark Andrews Banned 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Paul Myers
  
  Drift happens.
  
  2,500 miles apart though, that's some continental drift going on there.
  
  *****
  
  Okay, I'll update the thread for the benefit of those one's who have appreciated it soon enough. Let me get some dinner first, 3am in the morning here, just catching up on some work after my second bout of the flu this year.
  
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Mark Andrews

Banned 14 years ago

Another stunning part of Europe... the Amalfi Coast on the west side of Italy...

If a property here floats your boat prepare to splash the cash.

For just 14,000,000 Euros (USD $18.5 million) you could take possession of this little pad...

Not untypical. Prices here are extremely high on account of the stunning scenery. I couldn't find anything for sale under 1 million Euros on the coast although there was one which looked rather fabulous priced at a cool £32 million (USD $50+ million).

Next Greece...

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Andrews

Another stunning part of Europe... the Amalfi Coast on the west side of Italy...

If a property here floats your boat prepare to splash the cash.

For just 14,000,000 Euros (USD $18.5 million) you could take possession of this little pad...

Not untypical. Prices here are extremely high on account of the stunning scenery. I couldn't find anything for sale under 1 million Euros on the coast although there was one which looked rather fabulous priced at a cool £32 million (USD $50+ million).

*Next Greece...

That pad is kinda small...Is there anything for 18 mil that isn't right on the street? :rolleyes:

*might not be a good idea for estate agents to compare anything to Greece right now...:rolleyes:

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bosanci28 14 years ago

impressed !.. i want to go live there,very beautiful !
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Kurt

14 years ago

Mark,

I STRONGLY suggest you stop with your demanding PMs. If you have a problem with my posts, report them. But don't cry and hide behind a PMs.

I'll post whatever I feel like posting. If you can't handle it, go away.

And you have the nerve to insult me and tell me to grow up?

Here's Mark's PM:

Stop it Kurt and grow up.

Go start your own thread.

This is NOT about America, it's about Europe - what don't you understand, are you seriously that thick?

Maybe it's the arrogant people like you that's the reason not to visit Europe? Now go cry somewhere else.

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Kurt

14 years ago

BTW, I have also have interest in Asian culture:

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As well as ancient history:

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Grow up Kurt.
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  Originally Posted by Mark Andrews
  
  Grow up Kurt.
  
  Here's Mark's lates PM:
  
  You're a piece of work Kurt, you really are.
  
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  I've reported both your PMs. PMs are NOT for insults. And as I said before, if you have a problem with my posts, you should report them to the mods, instead of using insults and hiding behind PMs.
  
  If you want your own thread, BUY A WSO! Next, realize you don't own any thread in the off-topic and people will post what they want to, no matter how hard you cry.
  
  If you want to control what other people say, get a blog.
  
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14 years ago

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derekwong28

14 years ago

I would say if you could do it once in your life, take a coach tour of Europe. You really get to see fairy tale castles, beautiful 16th century houses and amazing landscapes. Although you do get great landscapes in N. America, there is much less human construction, especially old ones, compared to those in Europe. Moreover, many houses in Europe are very old because of preservation orders.

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HeySal

14 years ago

I lived in Germany for about 1.25 years. Did a LOT of sight seeing and enjoyed every last minute of it. I don't think that people don't "consider seeing Europe". I think a LOT of people would like to take a trip but just can't afford it. Americans, in general, are not as wealthy as most Europeans believe we are. My favorite spot was anywhere in the Alps and Oberamergau (which I just slaughtered on the spelling), which is the site of the passion plays.

Not to get into the argument, guys - but it's real fortunate for those who can't afford the trip to Europe that we do have such a spectacularly beautiful country ourselves here in the states.

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rondo

14 years ago

Europe can be very expensive, especially the popular places like Paris, London, Rome etc, and especially to Amercians who enjoy a pretty low cost of living at home.

Also, I don't think Americans travel overseas when they're young as much as Brits, Europeans, Australians, Kiwis etc do. Maybe they are paying off college debt? But when you travel young I think you tend to travel more often throughout your life.

I love both America and Europe, but I've been to the US twice in the last year because of the low cost. Everything is so cheap in the US for us Aussies - food, accomodation, clothing is about half-price. So many of us are going there that airlines are putting on extra flights. The air-fares have never been cheaper, and lots of people are even going to Hawaii or LA for short shopping trips!!

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Thomas

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mark Andrews

It often amazes me how few North Americans have never contemplated visiting Europe.

I suppose it depends on what you consider to be a "few"; in Ireland, it can be hard to swing a cat without knocking the hats off several US tourists, even in the middle of winter.

Originally Posted by rondo

Also, I don't think Americans travel overseas when they're young as much as... Maybe they are paying off college debt?

If there's anything keeping Americans from Europe (if they might otherwise want to travel here), it's most likely to do with things like having much less holiday (vacation) time available every year (about 2 weeks vs. 4-6 weeks in Europe), and significantly less job security than their European counterparts (when compared to Europeans employees, Americans really can be fired at the drop of a hat and, seemingly, for whatever particular reason might tickle the fancy of the person doing the firing). There's a reason why many US tourists (here, at least) appear to be retirees.

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rondo

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas

I suppose it depends on what you consider to be a "few"; in Ireland, it can be hard to swing a cat without knocking the hats off several US tourists, even in the middle of winter.

If there's anything keeping Americans from Europe (if they might otherwise want to travel here), it's most likely to do with things like having much less holiday (vacation) time available every year (about 2 weeks vs. 4-6 weeks in Europe), and significantly less job security than their European counterparts (when compared to Europeans employees, Americans really can be fired at the drop of a hat and, seemingly, for whatever particular reason might tickle the fancy of the person doing the firing). There's a reason why many US tourists (here, at least) appear to be retirees.

Tommy.

True Thomas, but I guess I was referring to the culture of long-term travel or working-holidays where young people head overseas for a year or 2 right after uni and before beginning a career. This is very common in UK, Australia, NZ and other countries but not so common apparently for young Americans.

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paul_1

14 years ago

Awesome Europe scenery... I so wanna go there already...

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bosanci28

14 years ago

well ,never been in italy,
but went at young age to france,austria,hungary.(about 20 years ago)
next month will go visit paris(paris) and bruxelles(belgium) ,
hope will get good weather there so we can see some stuff,make pictures also...

i heard that australia is nice also,maybe someday if things are changing here will hit there ,maybe more work.

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Simin

14 years ago

WOW such a nice country. One day i will go there, taken from affiliate commission :p

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Sandor Verebi 14 years ago

Really nice European places.

Perhaps you know that Hungary is in Europe, too. The capital Budapest is located on the two sides of the river Danube.

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rondo

14 years ago

Cool videos Sandor. Hungary is on my list for my next trip to Europe.

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Sandor Verebi 14 years ago

Originally Posted by rondo

Cool videos Sandor. Hungary is on my list for my next trip to Europe.

Andrew

Hi Andrew,

Glad you enjoyed the vids. Here is another one: Hungary at a Glance

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andybeveridge

14 years ago

I live on the French side of the Pyrenees and it very beautiful. The wildlife and space make it paradise for me.

There are a ton more places I would like to visit. Italy being one of them, and the images of northern Spain in an earlier post look very interesting.

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Dan Riffle

14 years ago

I've been to Belgium, Germany, and France. I really enjoyed my time in Belgium.
Beautiful countryside and Brussels has some awesome blues bars. Something
I found peculiar was I couldn't find a bar where the jukebox wasn't loaded with
Neil Diamond. I was haunted by "Coming to America" during my entire stay. Nothing
notably wrong with the song. I just heard it more times in my three week stay than
I had for the summation of my entire life prior to my visit.

Germany was cool. I loved the architecture. Being mostly German myself, it was
cool to get to sample authentic German cooking. Much, apparently, has been lost
in my family's recipes over the generations.

I also spent one day in Amsterdam. My only memories are contained in pictures.

France...well, you can keep France.

Ireland is the next stop. I can't imagine not enjoying a stay there.

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linkmetro

14 years ago

Sandor,

post #36 video is yours? Like it. To bad there is Tapolca not on it.

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Sandor Verebi 14 years ago

Originally Posted by linkmetro

Sandor,

post #36 video is yours? Like it. To bad there is Tapolca not on it.

Joe

Hi Joe,

Post #35 video isn't my work, but I'm pleased you like it.

Concerning Tapolca, do you have some important experience in connection of the town? Here is this vid about Tapolca. Enjoy.

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