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MoneyMagnetMagnate

14 years ago

Thanks for the summary...

At 3 hours, that's like Titanic loooong...

Even as important as it may be, they may never get it seen by any mass audience -

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HeySal

14 years ago

We can sure hope it's true. It's about time someone kicked some seriously corrupted booties at the top. I've seen a few other places that they are about to get their pink slips in a very harsh manor.

The mainstream media just seems to have "forgotten" to do any coverage of the impeachment hearings, either. Why is that such a secret? You'd think that would be one thing that the public is seriously entitled to know. General Patreas (sp?) had the judge doing the RCA dog head crank. LMAO.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

14 years ago

General Petraeus - and FOX prefers you use the term "Left-wing Mainstream Media" :p

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

It's going on 2 AM so I'm not going to listen/watch to this video now, maybe I'll check it out tomorrow, but...

Isn't David Wilcock the psychic who thinks he's the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce?

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

It's going on 2 AM so I'm not going to listen/watch to this video now, maybe I'll check it out tomorrow, but...

Isn't David Wilcock the psychic who thinks he's the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce?

Wasn't Edgar Cayce the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce? :confused:

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LarryC

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

It's going on 2 AM so I'm not going to listen/watch to this video now, maybe I'll check it out tomorrow, but...

Isn't David Wilcock the psychic who thinks he's the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce?

Yes, he has said that. And lots of other things that make him easy to discredit from a mainstream point of view. In any case, he doesn't claim to be the source of this info. He mainly researches and interviews people.

There's more about this at DIVINE INTERVENTION: Section I -- Defeating Financial Tyranny

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KimW

14 years ago

I wonder how The Cayce Institute feels about his claim?

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Originally Posted by KimW

I wonder hey The Cayce Institute feels about his claim?

They deny it.
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LarryC

14 years ago

It's impossible to prove or disprove who someone was in their last life, so I wouldn't even offer an opinion on it. Cayce wasn't infallible either. California should have fallen into the ocean by now according to him. Psychics can only tune into probable or possible futures, so none of them are perfect.

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TLTheLiberator

14 years ago

Will someone who has listened to this please sum up the main points of this video???

Who's going to be arrested?

Who's going to do the arresting??

Who's being impeached??

What does General Petreasus have to do with this??

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Will someone who has listened to this please sum up the main points of this video???

Who's going to be arrested?

Who's going to do the arresting??

Who's being impeached??

What does General Petreasus have to do with this??

To which I would add, why would someone or some group that wants to create a coup need to go back to 11,000 year old documents to make sure it's OK?

I have it playing in the background right now as I work, so I may have missed something important, or several things, but so far this sounds like that guy who kept selling books on how to legally avoid paying taxes, only to be thrown in prison for not paying taxes.

There are too many speculative and unsubstantianted numbers (90% this, 5% that) and too many "anonymous" references for me to put a lot of faith in what he's saying.

It is an interesting story though.

Edited to add: OK, the guy lost any chance at credibility with me when he said we've been using stargates for years and we also have food replicators. You want a steak? No need to kill a cow, just tell the food replicator what you want and it instantly makes a steak out of matter. He didn't say what kind of matter, but since he said essentially said "no cows are harmed in the making of this steak ," it must be done through magic or alchemy. He also said, "Some people need to be chopped up into little pieces before they're executed." ...because he's looked into someone's eyes and sees no soul? Do I even need to comment about that statement?

Sorry Larry, I'm not buying what he's selling, but as long we're "having fun" with conspiracy theories ... what if this guy, who is saying not to worry about a takeover of the government, not to panic when marshall law is declared, what if he is part of the government and is saying that so people won't fight the takeover in order to make it easier to take over?

And down the rabbit hole we go.

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whateverpedia

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

"Some people need to be chopped up into little pieces before they're executed."

Chopped into pieces BEFORE they're executed?

Chopping people into pieces isn't good enough?

They'll still be living after being chopped up?

Every piece is then going to separately executed?

If it's done by firing squad, then the entire US budget, if not the entire world's collected finances will be spent just on bullets.

Given all of the above, it's probably true. :rolleyes:

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

Chopped into pieces BEFORE they're executed?

Chopping people into pieces isn't good enough?

They'll still be living after being chopped up?

Every piece is then going to separately executed?

If it's done by firing squad, then the entire US budget, if not the entire world's collected finances will be spent just on bullets.

Given all of the above, it's probably true. :rolleyes:

It's possible! They DO make gadgets that can quickly chop a person up into several pieces without killing them. It WOULD hurt. But I don't think anyone has used them for that. There IS the older way that people HAVE used! Heck, it's rumored that it takes as long as a couple seconds to lose conciousness from decapitation!

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LarryC

14 years ago

<< Sorry Larry, I'm not buying what he's selling, but as long we're "having fun" with conspiracy theories ... what if this guy, who is saying not to worry about a takeover of the government, not to panic when marshall law is declared, what if he is part of the government and is saying that so people won't fight the takeover in order to make it easier to take over?>>

I'm not exactly "buying" it either -just keeping an open mind. But he never said martial law is going to be declared -in fact he specifically says this isn't going to happen. As for stargates and materializing food, he's not the only one who believes that there is extremely advanced technology that's being kept secret. Can I offer proof? No. But if you've been following fields like quantum physics, and the often suppressed or distorted history of the ancient world (e.g. how the pyramids and other ancient structures were created), I don't find it so farfetched that such technology is possible.

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Originally Posted by LarryC

I'm not exactly "buying" it either -just keeping an open mind. But he never said martial law is going to be declared -in fact he specifically says this isn't going to happen. As for stargates and materializing food, he's not the only one who believes that there is extremely advanced technology that's being kept secret. Can I offer proof? No. But if you've been following fields like quantum physics, and the often suppressed or distorted history of the ancient world (e.g. how the pyramids and other ancient structures were created), I don't find it so farfetched that such technology is possible.

Larry, I missed the part about martial law, but you do know I was joking with you about the martial law part, don't you? If not, you do now. And yes, I follow some quantum physics, and I believe the government hides technology, but food materializers? I don't believe that, and it doesn't matter if someone else does, there's still people that believe the earth is flat too. I like to think I'm open minded too, but at the same time I like to think I'm logical and level headed. However, this guy, was not credible, in my opinion.

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TLTheLiberator

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

To which I would add, why would someone or some group that wants to create a coup need to go back to 11,000 year old documents to make sure it's OK?

I have it playing in the background right now as I work, so I may have missed something important, or several things, but so far this sounds like that guy who kept selling books on how to legally avoid paying taxes, only to be thrown in prison for not paying taxes.

There are too many speculative and unsubstantianted numbers (90% this, 5% that) and too many "anonymous" references for me to put a lot of faith in what he's saying.

It is an interesting story though.

Edited to add: OK, the guy lost any chance at credibility with me when he said we've been using stargates for years and we also have food replicators. You want a steak? No need to kill a cow, just tell the food replicator what you want and it instantly makes a steak out of matter. He didn't say what kind of matter, but since he said essentially said "no cows are harmed in the making of this steak ," it must be done through magic or alchemy. He also said, "Some people need to be chopped up into little pieces before they're executed." ...because he's looked into someone's eyes and sees no soul? Do I even need to comment about that statement?

Sorry Larry, I'm not buying what he's selling, but as long we're "having fun" with conspiracy theories ... what if this guy, who is saying not to worry about a takeover of the government, not to panic when marshall law is declared, what if he is part of the government and is saying that so people won't fight the takeover in order to make it easier to take over?

And down the rabbit hole we go.

Stargates? Replicators???

Coup attempt???

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Edited to add: OK, the guy lost any chance at credibility with me when he said we've been using stargates for years and we also have food replicators. You want a steak? No need to kill a cow, just tell the food replicator what you want and it instantly makes a steak out of matter. He didn't say what kind of matter, but since he said essentially said "no cows are harmed in the making of this steak ," it must be done through magic or alchemy.

In theory, it CAN be done, via electricity! Of course, the control would have to be more precise than ANYONE has ever managed to do. Further, it would need a computer that is perhaps 100,000,000% efficient, which is, of course, impossible with current technology. Electricity and light are too slow. Star trek got around this by using apparently odd terms, like plasma(to power it), and a heisenberg compensator(to account for the lack of control).

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Will someone who has listened to this please sum up the main points of this video???

Who's going to be arrested?

Who's going to do the arresting??

Who's being impeached??

What does General Petreasus have to do with this??

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TL

Well, I know who is being threatened with impeachment. It is listed on thomas!!!!!! And I know who I would like to see thrown in jail for 40 years, or is it 60+?

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TLTheLiberator

14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Well, I know who is being threatened with impeachment. It is listed on thomas!!!!!! And I know who I would like to see thrown in jail for 40 years, or is it 60+?

Steve

Bat****...

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seasoned

14 years ago

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

Bat****...

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AW TL, I didn't know you cared....

As for my statement? It is FACT! Maybe I should say. Thomas is short for thomas.loc.gov.

loc is short for Library of CONGRESS! gov is short for [US] GOVernment.

So if you chose not to believe it is real, talk to the authors. I was just reporting facts!

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TLTheLiberator

14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

AW TL, I didn't know you cared....

As for my statement? It is FACT! Maybe I should say. Thomas is short for thomas.loc.gov.

loc is short for Library of CONGRESS! gov is short for [US] GOVernment.

So if you chose not to believe it is real, talk to the authors. I was just reporting facts!

Steve

I don't deny it's happening but I'm saying you, anyone else in here and the congresspeople that started the action are bat**** crazy for thinking it's going anywhere.

Since when has congress been immune from bat**** crazy legislators???

The only reason it's gone this far is because a bat**** crazy crowd has control of the house of reps.

TL

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Whateverpedia ... I just quoted the guy, I can't explain him.

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HeySal

14 years ago

Will someone who has listened to this please sum up the main points of this video???

The main point is that the elite that have the control of the money and are starving the world's people are about to get busted big time. The papers are supposed to be at the Hague giving each state it's sovereignty back from a government that has just taken all rights.

Who's going to be arrested?

It's most likely talking about the elite continuum - Top US politicians - a few other countries - World bank owners, regular bank owners --- top corporate brass from destructive corps like Monsanto. Anyone who has taken over control and is bleeding us dry while being a threat to our freedom and health.

Who's going to do the arresting??

The military, and the International court (Hague). The military will be there not for martial law, but just as backup for Federal Marshalls as they go in and make their arrests. It was stated that arrests are already being made.

Who's being impeached??

Okay - this is not part of the video - this is really happening. In November last year a bill of impeachment was filed against Obama. On the 12th the first of the investigation started. I watched General Patraeus being questioned. The judge was NOT impressed. It seems that the President of our sovereign nation is going to NATO and the UN instead of through congress to do things, such as declare wars. The action he took against Libya was illegal without congressional approval. This is not a "birther" issue or at least that issue has not been addressed yet. Right now it's a matter of war crime. The Judge was very emphatic about the law and very upset about the fact that our leader is acting in conjunction with 3rd parties to decide his actions instead of the Congress of the US - it's treason. 3rd parties do NOT run this country. The press is completely blacking out news of this investigation and even the fact a bill of impeachment was filed.

What does General Petreasus have to do with this??

He was questioned on the first day of the investigation (March 12). It was him I watched being questioned. As far as the video in question -- nothing was mentioned about this that I heard. I fell asleep during part of it, though.

My overall reaction is that it was just another dumb tape. I'm sure there are things going on we don't know about, but I don't think this tape holds water. Some of the stuff they go into is just too freaking strange. Way out left field metaphysics instead of political talk. The guy's only real hold on credibility is that he has interviewed Benjamin Fulford and has been able to quote him a little bit. Fulford seems to be calling for arrests of some high level elites, too - but everyone knows that. I didn't hear anything anywhere on the tape that can be backed up anywhere -- except some stuff that Fulford has said during interviews.

What is real:

This is really going on now. If you don't believe me I might have time to look up links and find the actual executive orders, etc. But I'm short on time so do some of your own google before asking please.

Our gov passed the NDAA which took our Habeas Corpus. They then passed the "no free speech zones" law which makes it possible for them to arbitrarily set zones that they can arrest people for even peaceful protest and charge them with a FELONY for even holding a sign. These areas can be set arbitrarily to allow speech and protest the gov wants and to squelch all speech that they don't.

The next step is that Obama just passed an executive order (which I am not clear if Congress had any part in this or if it was Obama in conjunction with the UN and NATO) that the government can seize control of water, land, transportation, trade, and everything else, including forcing people to join the military (draft) and for labor DURING PEACE TIME. This was done at about the same time the impeachment hearings started.

There are lawsuits going on over the "American Battlefield" order and over Obamacare. Not sure about the other stuff yet - it's only been a week that he enacted the last executive order so we can't be sure if that will get struck down, cause impeachment or what. At this point in time, the US is NOT a republic.

Last week a few reporters were arrested at a hospital during some sort of chaos over a little girl's death. The police did not read the reporters their rights - they told them they were "suspending their constitutional rights". The reporters were taken to jail but released by the judge without charges.

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

It's the hope and change everyone voted for Sal, government running everything.

No one wants to believe where this leads, they keep belieiving the spoonfed platitudes the media dishes out. Will America wake up in time?

Doubtful. The brainwashed are convinced they're smarter than everyone else.

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HeySal

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

It's the hope and change everyone voted for Sal, government running everything.

No one wants to believe where this leads, they keep belieiving the spoonfed platitudes the media dishes out. Will America wake up in time?

Doubtful. The brainwashed are convinced they're smarter than everyone else.

They didn't. If the impeachment goes through it might be okay for awhile because a lot of people have woken up and realized how deep we're into it -- but that doesn't mean they'll start kicking people out of office that really need to be kicked out either -- or that they will vote sensibly instead of the SOS.

As far as this video - yeah, he said if we see troops it won't be martial law it will be them helping the Federal Martials make arrests of the people that have caused the worldwide destruction we're seeing. To me that is a real dangerous thing to say. Consider the people that really believe this video. What happens if Martial law is instated and they mistake the purpose for the troops they see around. Could be a deadly mistake.

I don't think that people should listen to this one whether none of it, part of it, or all of it is truth. Considering real situations that we don't have to guess about (executive actions), I don't think it's a safe thing to have floating around right now.

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill

The right combination of oxygen and kerosene will, indeed, melt steel. My first job out of the army was cutting steel plate to size using a torch fueled with natural gas and oxygen. Steel does not have to melt to buckle.

I can't recall where I heard or read this, but it supposedly only takes about half the amount of heat to weaken structural steel to the failure point than it does to melt it. Do you know if that is correct, Ken?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

I can't recall where I heard or read this, but it supposedly only takes about half the amount of heat to weaken structural steel to the failure point than it does to melt it. Do you know if that is correct, Ken?

I'm unsure of the exact percentage, but that may be about right. Steel can weaken a LOT LONG before starting to melt.

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LarryC

14 years ago

<< I don't think that people should listen to this one whether none of it, part of it, or all of it is truth. >>

Sal, that doesn't make sense to me -even if it's true we shouldn't listen to it? I think we should consider all possibilities, not just the negative ones where martial law is coming. When more people believe it's possible, this makes it more likely that it will happen.

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HeySal

14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

AW TL, I didn't know you cared....

As for my statement? It is FACT! Maybe I should say. Thomas is short for thomas.loc.gov.

loc is short for Library of CONGRESS! gov is short for [US] GOVernment.

So if you chose not to believe it is real, talk to the authors. I was just reporting facts!

Steve

If you look at the bill it also tells when the last action was on it -- it says March 12, 2012. Pretty clear. This is something happening, yet it is not being reported in the media. This is not a matter of opinion.

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<< I don't think that people should listen to this one whether none of it, part of it, or all of it is truth. >>

Sal, that doesn't make sense to me -even if it's true we shouldn't listen to it? I think we should consider all possibilities, not just the negative ones where martial law is coming. When more people believe it's possible, this makes it more likely that it will happen.

Because Larry, if it is all truth, it is going on whether we have all the info or not and everything will just be revealed one day and we will all be better off suddenly. But we have no way to KNOW with certainty what is fact and what is fiction in this hodge-podge. If someone takes something as fact that turns out to be fiction, they could wind up in jail or dead.

As far as I am concerned, if I see military in our streets, I am going to presume that martial law has been installed on us and not taking any chances until I know for a fact I am safe.

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HeySal

14 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

AW TL, I didn't know you cared....

As for my statement? It is FACT! Maybe I should say. Thomas is short for thomas.loc.gov.

loc is short for Library of CONGRESS! gov is short for [US] GOVernment.

So if you chose not to believe it is real, talk to the authors. I was just reporting facts!

Steve

If you look at the bill it also tells when the last action was on it -- it says March 12, 2012. Pretty clear. This is something happening ( I even watched some of it), yet it is not being reported in the media. This is not a matter of opinion.

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<< I don't think that people should listen to this one whether none of it, part of it, or all of it is truth. >>

Sal, that doesn't make sense to me -even if it's true we shouldn't listen to it? I think we should consider all possibilities, not just the negative ones where martial law is coming. When more people believe it's possible, this makes it more likely that it will happen.

Because Larry, if it is all truth, it is going on whether we have all the info or not and everything will just be revealed one day and we will all be better off suddenly. But we have no way to KNOW with certainty what is fact and what is fiction in this hodge-podge. If someone takes something as fact that turns out to be fiction, they could wind up in jail or dead.

As far as I am concerned, if I see military in our streets, I am going to presume that martial law has been installed on us and not taking any chances until I know for a fact I am safe.

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LarryC 14 years ago

<< As far as I am concerned, if I see military in our streets, I am going to presume that martial law has been installed on us and not taking any chances until I know for a fact I am safe.>>

I can understand your logic. I recognize there's a possibility that all of this is disinfo designed for that very purpose -to get us to lower our guard when we see a military presence in the streets. But I'm still hoping for a more positive outcome.
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TLTheLiberator

14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

If you look at the bill it also tells when the last action was on it -- it says March 12, 2012. Pretty clear. This is something happening ( I even watched some of it), yet it is not being reported in the media. This is not a matter of opinion.

Because Larry, if it is all truth, it is going on whether we have all the info or not and everything will just be revealed one day and we will all be better off suddenly. But we have no way to KNOW with certainty what is fact and what is fiction in this hodge-podge. If someone takes something as fact that turns out to be fiction, they could wind up in jail or dead.

As far as I am concerned, if I see military in our streets, I am going to presume that martial law has been installed on us and not taking any chances until I know for a fact I am safe.

I don't deny it's happening but I'm saying you and the congresspeople that started the action are bat**** crazy for thinking it's going anywhere.

Since when has congress been immune from bat**** crazy legislators???

The only reason it's gone this far is because a bat**** crazy crowd has control of the house of reps.

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LarryC

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill

The right combination of oxygen and kerosene will, indeed, melt steel. My first job out of the army was cutting steel plate to size using a torch fueled with natural gas and oxygen. Steel does not have to melt to buckle.

Could be, but I'm not even going to speculate about that, as it could start a whole other endless debate!

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14 years ago

Well, there are a LOT of laws being broken, and they are being more blatent. I don't think they have EVER been so blatent! And there are a LOT of "liberties" being taken! AGAIN, I think it is a RECORD! And we have a record deficit! We have a RECORD DEBT! We probably have a record real unemployed rate! The military is starting to show cracks! AGAIN, vietnam was merely a bit CLOSE, but still different. Food is probably worse than ever. And there ARE several conspiracies. They aren't mere theories. So how has it been kept secret? It HASN'T! HECK, when I was a kid, things like the UN armies that exist TODAY were laughed at as conspiracy theories. Area 51 was laughed at as a myth! I could say more that REALLY hits home. They are things that got people ostracized and laughed at for even CONSIDERING, that are now established fact, but that is TOO political.

It really IS amazing how far this has gone. When things get so blatent that people realize what has happened, this could be like a huge spring wrapped around the planet. IMAGINE what happens when that end breaks free! YIKES!

Some think AIDS was a government plot. WAS IT? There were old documents describing its function, the reason for it, and even how to create it. Who knows?

There is EVEN an organization that has OPENLY said they want to detroy the middle class! They claim that the middle class uses more resources than the poor. DUH!!!!!
I note that they do NOT mention the rich that typically use about 4+ TIMES as much as the middle class, PER PERSON! And they don't mention the political class that typically uses dozens of times what rich citizens use. The SAME organization says that the size of the world population has to be reduced.

HECK, take me compared to a rich actress that once had a small bit part in TV. Let's talk about just HOTELS! I typically pay about $120/day for one room! It is about the size of a master bedroom. SHE paid $8000/day for a "room" that looked like a HOUSE!

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cashtree

14 years ago

In Canada Fox, MSNBC etc...new stations are illegal because they don't allow false news heh. They should do that here

Anyway the audio above is disturbing, if the military started taking over, and arresting people, it could turn into a police state and pure chaos. I wish people would stop would stop being shady and just focus on making the US better and the world better.

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Patrician

14 years ago

While so many of the so-called 'conspiracy theories' have actually not materialized, we do not know what could be right around the bend.

How will we know either way - we have the KOOKS that are exploiting fear and taking 'creative license' to add their spin on things with absolutely no tangible facts.

Then we have the media that is lying or blocking what is really happening from the public.

The things that ARE ACTUALLY happening at the legislative level how can we know what they mean?

I realize what they COULD mean if you look at them one way (we might be moving from the impending breadlines to the camps) -

... then again it may actually just be that they are anticipating civil war/anarchy because their frauds and lack of ethics - well criminality have been exposed) -

...or a war on our soil - for example coming over our border and they are 'arming' themselves.

At this point it is almost all conjecture, smoke and mirrors - from both camps -

I am just not going to believe any of it either way - 'watch the parking meters, don't follow leaders' (and 'keep a clean nose') LOL whatever that means.

I can be pretty dark in the first place always have when it comes to the establishment - but lo and behold it looks like it is so much worse and so much darker than even I could imagine.

Pretty scary either way....

... and either way there isn't jack we can do about it.

I just know it has to get worse before it can get better.

'THE DARKEST HOUR IS JUST BEFORE THE DAWN'.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Patrician

While so many of the so-called 'conspiracy theories' have actually not materialized, we do not know what could be right around the bend.

How will we know either way - we have the KOOKS that are exploiting fear and taking 'creative license' to add their spin on things with absolutely no tangible facts.

Most of the ones that relate to attempts by the military or government apparently have turned out to be REAL if they were possible, and had even an inkling of fact. Some sound so incredibly ludicrous that 50 years ago you could have been locked up as INSANE for believing them and, TODAY, THEY ARE FACT! MAN, I could cover DOZENS! I only thought maybe a half dozen were legit. It turns out that MORE were legit and even MORE BECAME legit when they could be done. It is now hard to surprise me here.

Heck, a lot of technology the US has is delayed to the consumer market at least 10 years! Examples include computers, the internet, excimer lasers, GPS, supersonic flight, etc.... So even determining the feasibility of some rumors is skewed. There IS, for example, a potential rumor regarding a conspiracy about the excimer laser. I could see reasons for it, so it MIGHT be legit, but it would be hard to prove, and sounds crazy at first blush.

Then we have the media that is lying or blocking what is happening.

The things that ARE ACTUALLY happening at the legislative level how can we know what they mean? I realize what they COULD mean if you look at them one way (we might be moving from the impending breadlines to the camps) - then again it may actually just be that they are anticipating civil war - or a war on our soil - for example coming over our border and they are 'arming' themselves.

At this point it is almost all conjecture, smoke and mirrors - from both camps -

I am just not going to believe any of it either way - 'watch the parking meters, don't follow leaders' (and 'keep a clean nose') LOL whatever that means.

I can be pretty dark in the first place always have when it comes to the establishment - but lo and behold it looks like it is so much worse and so much darker than even I could imagine.

Pretty scary either way....

Laws have a way of being applied in the WORST way possible, even to actually be used to do what they SPECIFICALLY say should NOT be done. I could give REAL FACTUAL examples that could be found in the news even over the past couple days, but ..... Political and religious!

Steve

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<< At this point it is almost all conjecture, smoke and mirrors - from both camps -

I am just not going to believe any of it either way - 'watch the parking meters, don't follow leaders' (and 'keep a clean nose') LOL whatever that means.>>

True, between conjecture, disinfo, paranoia and wishful thinking, who knows what to believe? The mainstream media obviously can't be trusted, but neither can a lot of the alternative or conspiracy media. All we can do is consider all possibilities and try to discern some element of truth out of it all.
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Patrician

14 years ago

Subterranean Homesick Blues - YouTube

"Subterranean Homesick Blues"

Johny's in the basement
Mixing up the medicine
I'm on the pavement
Thinking about the government
The man in the trench coat
Badge out, laid off
Says he's got a bad cough
Wants to get it paid off
Look out kid
It's somethin' you did
God knows when
But you're doin' it again
You better duck down the alley way
Lookin' for a new friend
The man in the coon-skip cap
In the big pen
Wants eleven dollar bills
You only got ten.

Maggie comes fleet foot
Face full of black soot
Talkin' that the heat put
Plants in the bed but
The phone's tapped anyway
Maggie says that many say
They must bust in early May
Orders from the DA
Look out kid
Don't matter what you did
Walk on your tip toes
Don't try, 'No Doz'
Better stay away from those
That carry around a fire hose
Keep a clean nose
Watch the plain clothes
You don't need a weather man
To know which way the wind blows.

Get sick, get well
Hang around an ink well
Ring bell, hard to tell
If anything is goin' to sell
Try hard, get barred
Get back, write Braille
Get jailed, jump bail Join the army, if you failed
Look out kid
You're gonna get hit
But users, cheaters
Six-time losers
Hang around the theaters
Girl by the whirlpool
Lookin' for a new fool
Don't follow leaders
Watch the parkin' meters.

Ah get born, keep warm
Short pants, romance, learn to dance
Get dressed, get blessed
Try to be a success
Please her, please him, buy gifts
Don't steal, don't lift
Twenty years of schoolin'
And they put you on the day shift
Look out kid
They keep it all hid
Better jump down a manhole
Light yourself a candle
Don't wear sandals
Try to avoid the scandals
Don't wanna be a bum
You better chew gum
The pump don't work
'Cause the vandals took the handles.

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HeySal

14 years ago

So are you saying when a president pulls a bat**** crazy and ILLEGAL action, everyone is bat**** crazy for doing something about it?

Although - I can't argue that it may not go anywhere. Lots of presidents pulled a lot of bat**** crazy illegal as hell stuff and never got canned for it. Now if Bama had slept with someone besides Michelle and got caught, we'd have a war zone right in front of the WH over it. But this was just illegally giving congress's authority to a third party, dissolving the republic and sovereignty, and starting illegal military actions to the fury of many other countries. So it's no biggie......not like it was sex or something.

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TLTheLiberator

14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

So are you saying when a president pulls a bat**** crazy and ILLEGAL action, everyone is bat**** crazy for doing something about it?

Although - I can't argue that it may not go anywhere.

Lots of presidents pulled a lot of bat**** crazy illegal as hell stuff and never got canned for it.

Now if Bama had slept with someone besides Michelle and got caught, we'd have a war zone right in front of the WH over it.

But this was just illegally giving congress's authority to a third party, dissolving the republic and sovereignty, and starting illegal military actions to the fury of many other countries.

So it's no biggie......not like it was sex or something.

That's just the opinion of you and your friends.

I'm saying that a POTUS has done that type of action at least 175 times and no one on cap hill batted an eye.

But now...

... we have some bat**** crazy Tea-Party congresspeople trying to use this crap as a bludgeon against the POTUS to score some political points.

From what I understand... ( But I could be wrong )

... the POTUS has 60 days to do whatever the hell he wants...

... and then must answer to congress who then decides weather to continuing funding the operation or not.

It's going nowhere because no matter what you and your band of friends say,

... he has not outsourced anything to 3rd parties etc.

( or whatever other illegal and impeachable actions he has supposed to have taken )

Don't mix the sex stuff in this...

If he was getting a BJ in the WH and then lied under oath about it then that's another matter entirely.

Since the GOP has control of the house they can start real impeachment hearings whenever they like for what seems like - whatever they like.

( high crimes and misdemeanors )

But they better not be viewed as being political and silly about it and overreaching.

Their supporters may love it...

... but the vast majority of the folks in the middle (independents ) won't like it at all and it will seriously hurt the GOP in November.

Plus, it won't go anywhere in the Dem controlled senate since you need 66 or 67 votes for an impeachment.

So, it'll just be a big waste of time, the GOP will look bad...

... but that didn't stop a couple of bat**** crazy congresspersons from filing a resolution or whatever it is that they filed.

All The Best!!

TL

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HeySal

14 years ago

TL - grow the **** up, would you? Here's another thread that you personally will get deleted because you have to make everything a personal freaking attack when people don't agree with you.

That's just the opinion of you and your friends.

no matter what you and your band of friends say

,
It is NOT the OPINION of me and my friends.
It is the contention of Congress and the Judiciary -- that's why there are impeachment proceedings. Unfortunately - I can't take credit for them.

And as far as political knowledge - all I see from you is attitude and opinion. Try some logic sometimes instead of hot under the collar blow. It might make YOU a little more credible yourself.

The facts are that there are impeachment proceedings. Whether there is a valid reason for that is not a matter of what YOU or I think. It's what they find out in investigations.

And third party -- you didn't hear Patraeus. That's what HE said - so go tell him he's the moron.

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TLTheLiberator

14 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

TL - grow the **** up, would you? Here's another thread that you personally will get deleted because you have to make everything a personal freaking attack when people don't agree with you.

It is NOT the OPINION of me and my friends.

It is the contention of Congress and the Judiciary -- that's why there are impeachment proceedings.

Unfortunately - I can't take credit for them.

And as far as political knowledge - all I see from you is attitude and opinion. Try some logic sometimes instead of hot under the collar blow.

It might make YOU a little more credible yourself.

Save it Sal.

I could say the same for you.

You need to grow the ______ up regarding your "Konspricy Central" stuff.

You and your friends are for this impeachment madness - that's all I meant and is that not true.

Aren't you all for "the proceedings"???

I'll withdraw the bat**** crazy remarks but do you have another way for me to put it?

OK, insert the word "overzealous" in place of bat**** crazy.

Any overzealous member of congress can file proceedings for any number of reasons - that is a fact.

It does not mean they are credible in their actions IMO, so saying...

...it's congress taking these actions and so forth doesn't carry a lot of wait with me...

.. especially with these type of actions from who I consider overzealous in more ways then one.

So...

Let's see where this thing goes OK??

Sincerely,

All The Best!!

TL

Ps. There's no need for you and I to go round and round on this one - we already have IMO - but let's see where this thingy goes.

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HeySal

14 years ago

Exactly TL. I don't like him (as a politician or his political ideology). Sure. But I have seen the issues on the impeachment bill and really don't know what went on so I can't say if those charges are just off-the-wall or what. I am presuming they are not, because there IS an investigation. There has to be some form of evidence or they won't HOLD an investigation, it just gets tossed out.
The only thing I really know about the whole Libya thing is what I heard coming out of Patraeus's mouth when he was being interrogated. It wasn't pretty, TL. It really wasn't. The judge was so astounded at times he just sat there with his mouth open staring at the general. Even you would have been at least somewhat uncomfortable.

It's not so much THIS president that I am against. It's the continuum I see needing to be stopped. We need the impeachment to get rid of the final blows to our bill of rights that has been issued under this president........which were incidentally set up by the last two. We tried to stop it at the last president, but they refused to honor the petition......because the gang of 4 would have been implicated and at least booted - and possibly have put in some jail time. So they just refused to honor a petition signed by over a million people.

That's where I am coming from -- not stopping one man --- stopping the continuum that has led to the fall of our bill of rights. Dig it?

Presidents are always charismatic and likeable somewhat on a personal level or they couldn't get in the door. We have to always look beyond that.

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Patrician

14 years ago

... and as I have said the president is nothing more than the latest puppet in the puppet regime -

--- what is up front (at least you can see a face and have a name and at least a certain amount of people believe(d) him and whatever his 'platform' APPEARED to be)

- we still have no idea who pulls the strings and again congress etc are just more puppets.

"you know something is happening here but you don't know what it is, do you Mr Jones"?????

well coincidentally decades later, a Mr Jones did call it 'the SHADOW government'.

we will have to think of something else to call it so that the MESSAGE is not lost by those who think Mr Jones is a kook.

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