What's wrong with the Music Industry?

14 years ago

There's a lot of things wrong with the music industry, but I'll leave that topic to others. I just wanted to comment about that video. Blondie sounds old and tired to me. Her voice has declined with age, as often happens.

Plus, I'm just not a fan of 66 year olds, men or women, dressing and trying to act like they're still kids. I know not everyone will agree, and that's OK, but to me they look like they're desperately trying to recapture their youth.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

There's a lot of things wrong with the music industry, but I'll leave that topic to others. I just wanted to comment about that video. Blondie sounds old and tired to me. Her voice has declined with age, as often happens.

Plus, I'm just not a fan of 66 year olds, men or women, dressing and trying to act like they're still kids. I know not everyone will agree, and that's OK, but to me they look like they're desperately trying to recapture their youth.

No, I think you pretty much said it - don't get me wrong - I've always liked Blondie, and the band was great - but Debbie has lost her edge. She did sound off. (are you sure that wasn't Lindsay Lohan? :rolleyes

I'd like to see someone else take a whack at the song (Adele?) put some energy into the vocal...

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Frank Donovan

14 years ago

The Music Industry has never really been about the music.

I think music itself is in great shape, thanks largely to the democratizing effect of the internet. I must have discovered more interesting new music in the last three years than I did in the previous twenty.

The problem with the Music Industry is that it hasn't quite worked out how it can best exploit the digital technology while still keeping control over the artist rights. The major companies are still reluctant to fully let go of their traditional business models, even though it's clear that radical change is the only thing that can keep them alive.

Blondie's website is evidently run by their Record Company, EMI. I've just visited and tried to play the video on the home page. A message tells me it's blocked in my country "on copyright grounds".

Numbnuts. :rolleyes:

Frank

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

The Music Industry has never really been about the music.

I think music itself is in great shape, thanks largely to the democratizing effect of the internet. I must have discovered more interesting new music in the last three years than I did in the previous twenty.

The problem with the Music Industry is that it hasn't quite worked out how it can best exploit the digital technology while still keeping control over the artist rights. The major companies are still reluctant to fully let go of their traditional business models, even though it's clear that radical change is the only thing that can keep them alive.

Blondie's website is obviously controlled by their Record Company, EMI. I've just visited and tried to play the video on the home page. A message tells me it's blocked in my country "on copyright grounds".

Numbnuts. :rolleyes:

Frank

You bring up a good point that more Artists can utilize the internet to distribute on their own - which is why RIAA will kill for their cut - they don't control the pie.

Bonnie Raitt just released a new album she produced and distributed herself, and mentioned it had never been easier to get an album out in her career - She is the label. She makes the call.

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thunderbird

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

You bring up a good point that more Artists can utilize the internet to distribute on their own - which is why RIAA will kill for their cut - they don't control the pie.

Bonnie Raitt just released a new album she produced and distributed herself, and mentioned it had never been easier to get an album out in her career - She is the label. She makes the call.

I love the Pandora's Box known as Internet. "The Man" sure is trying to close the box now that it is pushing him to the side, lol.

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Halcyon

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

There's a lot of things wrong with the music industry, but I'll leave that topic to others. I just wanted to comment about that video. Blondie sounds old and tired to me. Her voice has declined with age, as often happens.

Plus, I'm just not a fan of 66 year olds, men or women, dressing and trying to act like they're still kids. I know not everyone will agree, and that's OK, but to me they look like they're desperately trying to recapture their youth.

She is 66 and did a lot of drugs but imo she still looks pretty good considering. I will agree that, her live show just isn't what it used to be but the recorded version goes back their punk roots and is pretty good.

I most certainly understand that the music industry is only interested in money but imo they're only looking in one place for it. There's money to be made from old rockers.

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ThomM

14 years ago

Is that off their new album?
I like it.
What's wrong with the music industry hasn't changed.
It's still all about the $$$$$$$$$

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

14 years ago

Your answer is in your question:

What's wrong with the Music Industry?

What's wrong with the Movie Industry?

A: Industry - It is an industry because it is a business. The business end of the industry could not give a rat's bladder what sells - as long as it sells.

Sure - there are still a few altruists who believe Art will win out - and if we are lucky, it does...and industry is happy too. You would think competition would dictate quality, but it only dictates quantity in popularity and sales.

And to most on the business side, the muse of industry is money, and it does not care if it's Beatles, or Bieber...it only cares about the bottom line. It just uses art to feed the fire.

(imo)

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hardraysnight

14 years ago

there is still a lot of good music out there, but it is getting harder to find

but who am i to judge i am going to see one direction tonight and looking forward to it

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by oncewerewarriors

there is still a lot of good music out there, but it is getting harder to find

but who am i to judge i am going to see one direction tonight and looking forward to it

Aren't they a new Boy Band act? I think they were on SNL the other week (I remember watching it because it had Sofia Vergara on it :rolleyes

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hardraysnight 14 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

Aren't they a new Boy Band act? I think they were on SNL the other week (I remember watching it because it had Sofia Vergara on it :rolleyes

the latest scream machine from uk

getting crowds of fans everywhere they go.

suspect they will call the fire brigade to wash the floor after the concert

looking forward to it

might be the best boy band since westlife
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getboris

14 years ago

I think the word "industry" points out to what's wrong with the music these days. By the way, the term "music industry" first was mentioned by Plato in his book Republic about 2300 years ago. Music is a part of culture creation industry, when you want to degrade culture you degrade music -- it's an old formula and it still works. After all, each young generation is very susceptible to music, so its a bullet-proof concept.

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thunderbird

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Halcyon

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I found out that Blondie released a new album last September. What?!!! how did I miss this? <snip>
Blondie - D Day (Live) - YouTube

I always like Blondie and it is a pleasure to hear a new song of theirs.

(That said, I feel weirdly, illogically proud of Justin Bieber. He's a Canadian, so what, why should I care, but it makes me stupidly happy. The only time I actually listen to his music is when my toddler sings, "Baby baby".

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

I always like Blondie and it is a pleasure to hear a new song of theirs.

(That said, I feel weirdly, illogically proud of Justin Bieber. He's a Canadian, so what, why should I care, but it makes me stupidly happy. The only time I actually listen to his music is when my toddler sings, "Baby baby".

Everybody from Brian Adams to Neil Young...and you bring up Bieber??:rolleyes:

I would rather think of Shania Twain twice...she's preeettiierr! :p

Oddly, this list I brought up on Google, lists Bieber as Canadian pop and R&B signer, songwriter...(R&B ??)

I don't know where the site comes from...but it is titled: "Famous Canadian artists well know for their music." :rolleyes:

Famous Canadian Musicians

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thunderbird

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

Everybody from Brian Adams to Neil Young...and you bring up Bieber??:rolleyes:

I would rather think of Shania Twain twice...she's preeettiierr! :p

Oddly, this list I brought up on Google, lists Bieber as Canadian pop and R&B signer, songwriter...(R&B ??)

I don't know where the site comes from...but it is titled: "Famous Canadian artists well know for their music." :rolleyes:

Famous Canadian Musicians

No argument from me there, especially your observation about Shania Twain. My own personal inclination is for pretty women, not pretty boys. I won't try to rationalize why I am happy for Justin Bieber, as if he was my nephew or something.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

No argument from me there, especially your observation about Shania Twain. My own personal inclination is for pretty women, not pretty boys. I won't try to rationalize why I am happy for Justin Bieber, as if he was my nephew or something.

Well...if he's your nephew, what can you do? :rolleyes: At least he won't be asking you for a job...

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thunderbird

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

Well...if he's your nephew, what can you do? :rolleyes: At least he won't be asking you for a job...

He's not my nephew. We didn't even live in the same trailer park or wherever. I doubt it make any difference if we were related. One of my brothers is a multi-millionaire and that hasn't benefited me one iota (not even one cent).

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Halcyon

She is 66 and did a lot of drugs but imo she still looks pretty good considering. I will agree that, her live show just isn't what it used to be but the recorded version goes back their punk roots and is pretty good.

I most certainly understand that the music industry is only interested in money but imo they're only looking in one place for it. There's money to be made from old rockers.

Oh yeah, true enough. Some of them can go on forever it seems. The ones I most like to see continue are the ones whose music seems to "grow up" with them. They just keep getting better. Some of them are like old athletes though, they're the last ones to realize it time to move on.

Originally Posted by thunderbird

He's not my nephew. We didn't even live in the same trailer park or wherever. I doubt it make any difference if we were related. One of my brothers is a multi-millionaire and that hasn't benefited me one iota (not even one cent).

Would I be out of line to suggest you try to outlive him? Maybe you'll see some of that yet.

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thunderbird

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Oh yeah, true enough. Some of them can go on forever it seems. The ones I most like to see continue are the ones whose music seems to "grow up" with them. They just keep getting better. Some of them are like old athletes though, they're the last ones to realize it time to move on.

Would I be out of line to suggest you try to outlive him? Maybe you'll see some of that yet.

It wouldn't happen, even if I did outlive him. He's got a wife and kids. I wouldn't want it to happen, even if it were a possibility (which it 100% ain't). I want money that I made, not leached, lol.

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Dennis Gaskill

14 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

It wouldn't happen, even if I did outlive him. He's got a wife and kids. I wouldn't want it to happen, even if it were a possibility (which it 100% ain't). I want money that I made, not leached, lol.

I was kidding around with you, thus the wink.

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hardraysnight

14 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

Everybody from Brian Adams to Neil Young...and you bring up Bieber??:rolleyes:

I would rather think of Shania Twain twice...she's preeettiierr! :p

Oddly, this list I brought up on Google, lists Bieber as Canadian pop and R&B signer, songwriter...(R&B ??)

I don't know where the site comes from...but it is titled: "Famous Canadian artists well know for their music." :rolleyes:

Famous Canadian Musicians

the most famous canadian in rock must be margaret trudeau

after all she was in the rolling stones, or were the stones in her?

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lcombs

14 years ago

Very simple:
The promoters, producers, recording companies found a formula that sells to the masses.
i.e. Brittany Spears & company.
Quality no longer matters.

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thunderbird 14 years ago

Originally Posted by lcombs

Very simple:
The promoters, producers, recording companies found a formula that sells to the masses.
i.e. Brittany Spears & company.
Quality no longer matters.

In defense of Justin Bieber, he was not welcomed with open arms by the industry. He blazed his own way via YouTube.com and gained a huge following before he was ever taken seriously by the music industry.
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KimW

14 years ago

I loved Blondie back in the day. I could listen to them 24/7.
I pretty much stopped listening to them after the Autoamerican album,they changed too much from the sound I loved them for.
But I have to agree with Dennis,they sound old and tired.
Not that I blame them I think she is 66 like someone said.
But back in the day they were great,and here are some of the reasons why:

Blondie X Offender 1976 - YouTube

Blondie One Way or Another - YouTube

Blondie - Hanging On The Telephone - YouTube

Blondie - Accidents never happen - YouTube

Blondie - Rip Her To Shreds.wmv - YouTube

Blondie - In The Flesh (1976) - YouTube

And last but not least, I found this 2010 interview:

Deborah Harry on 60 minutes 2010 - YouTube

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kateson

14 years ago

Music industries has not been introducing a new singer album from couple of time ..!!

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