Doing IM While Traveling The World

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Hey folks

I was hoping to travel the world while doing IM, after I started making a killing on IM.

Unfortunately though, that's taking a little longer than expected and I really wanted to start traveling the world now, while on a moderate income. But I have no idea how to go about doing this :s

Do you have any tips on how I may go about doing this without breaking the bank? Maybe you've done some budget traveling yourself? Where are some good places to go, are there any good traveling groups/organizations that you know of?

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I'm currently on $2,000 a month from my own product sales on Clickbank.
I live in the UK
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  • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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    Originally Posted by Snow_Predator View Post

    I really wanted to start traveling the world now, while on a moderate income. But I have no idea how to go about doing this . . .

    Do you have any tips on how I may go about doing this without breaking the bank?

    Hope this helps . . .


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  • I agree with Fin, start by gaining a few clients with a service. What skills can you put into place service wise that will cover your travel costs?

    Remember with services, you have clients, so no residual income!
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  • Profile picture of the author TheSalesBooster
    what's your budget like? I'm guessing you don't do any affiliate marketing or have a website earning any money so I'm guessing the best thing for you to do would be to get some sort of freelance job and get some clients and write some articles or something everyday while you travel.
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  • Profile picture of the author twentytwo
    My goal in IM, is to travel the world also. I hope you make it dude!
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    • Profile picture of the author salegurus
      Originally Posted by Snow_Predator View Post


      Do you have any tips on how I may go about doing this without breaking the bank? Maybe you've done some budget traveling yourself? Where are some good places to go, are there any good traveling groups/organizations that you know of?
      Wow, when did WF turn into a travel advisory? Another quality thread in the MF :rolleyes:
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        Hi Snow_Predator
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      • Profile picture of the author Snow_Predator
        Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

        Hope this helps . . .


        Lol yeh I can see that happening, but I can't quite picture my laptop fitting in that bag
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        • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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          Cost of living can be cheaper but you will also need to take into consideration several other costs.

          Things like visa runs, health care, short term rentals...

          I would make sure you got a sizeable amount in the bank before jetting off. I think you could do that on 2k a month in several countries, but you will be better off if you have an emergency fund available if anything happens to you or your income stream.

          You do not want to be stranded in some of these low cost countries without money.
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      • Profile picture of the author joefizz
        Hi Snow_Predator

        Have you read 'The 4 Hour Work Week'?

        If not, get it asap because Tim Ferris actually goes into minute detail about surviving away from your country for months on end AND at minimal cost!

        Most people dismiss the book for 2 reasons:

        1. They just say... it can't be done...
        2. The first 50/80 pages or so, you sort of lost interest because of Tim Ferris' ego and... you still think... it can't be done.

        The book is a very, very good manual for your travel projects... I would recommend you read it just for that purpose, but there is so much more!

        Go read!

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        • Profile picture of the author robestrong
          I've traveled while doing IM in the past. Nothing like waking up thousands of miles from your home and checking your PayPal account on an iPad to see a couple thousand came in since you left.
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  • Profile picture of the author kayfrank
    A lot of people go travelling and then work as a waiter for awhile to earn enough to then carry on. You could do that?
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  • As someone who's backpacked extensively and who also runs an IM business, here's my opinion: forget about it.

    While traveling, there are plenty of distractions, downtimes, etc. The very most I've managed to do is to SUSTAIN the IM projects that were already working and running pretty much on autopilot, but I never managed to EXPAND, CREATE or even OPTIMIZE anything while on the road.

    Traveling is traveling, not working. They're two different states of mind, and your productivity plummets while on the road. It's simply impossible to keep your focus while you're exploring a new country, sleeping in hostels, catching night buses, visiting nearby ancient ruins, etc. It's never worked out for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ruth P
      Firstly, you wouldn't be crazy to travel while earning $2000 per month. I have spent less than this every single month in 6 months in Thailand.

      I will be completely upfront and tell you I spent just £3,500 in 6 months (that's just under $6000 - less than $1000 per month!!) I am with my boyfriend, and being with someone else helps with some costs.

      Now I have stayed in Thailand for most of the time, apart from a month in Laos, but I've moved around a lot, buying lots of bus and train tickets and seeing loads of different places. If you stay put somewhere for a while in Thailand you can rent a place for a few hundred USD per month.

      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      As someone who's backpacked extensively and who also runs an IM business, here's my opinion: forget about it.

      While traveling, there are plenty of distractions, downtimes, etc. The very most I've managed to do is to SUSTAIN the IM projects that were already working and running pretty much on autopilot, but I never managed to EXPAND, CREATE or even OPTIMIZE anything while on the road.

      Traveling is traveling, not working. They're two different states of mind, and your productivity plummets while on the road. It's simply impossible to keep your focus while you're exploring a new country, sleeping in hostels, catching night buses, visiting nearby ancient ruins, etc. It's never worked out for me.
      I'm sorry but this isn't great advice. Just because this person couldn't expand a business, doesn't mean you can't. Travelling has pushed me more because it's given me so much more motivation to get new income streams and systems up and running to build my business to even better levels. I actually get more done than I used to - before I went I had loads of time to waste. Plus, even if I'm building it more slowly, I don't even CARE! Why? Because I am doing amazing things!!

      There are plenty of people who make work + travel a lifestyle. The two are not mutually exclusive. Just google "location independent" or "digital nomad". And yes, working when you travel isn't going to be the same as a 2 week vacation. If that's what we wanted, we'd stay at home and just go on short vacations instead. It becomes a lifestyle and it takes some getting used to, but it's possible. Maybe not right for everyone, but a lot of the people in this thread saying no are saying it for reasons that don't really make sense.

      Expenses? Well we have that covered with cheap countries, IF you have an interest in those countries.
      Visas? Easy in SE Asia. Just takes a little bit of money but perfectly affordable.
      Connection? Thailand has good internet! There are always issues, and sometimes power cuts, but generally Thailand is pretty developed.
      Health? There's plenty of affordable insurance.
      Accommodation? You can stay in great places for $25. MUCH cheaper if you go more basic.
      Any other questions? There are ways around them! If you want it you want it, if you don't, you listen to the nay-sayers and give up on the goal.

      Don't let people take a dream away from you. It might not work for everyone, and it might not be right for them, but if it's right for you then you can do it. You can book a flight right now if you want to. I'm 100% sure you can do well on $2000 pm in SE Asia.

      That said, I am so glad I have a savings cushion. I haven't had to use it yet, but it's here if I need it.
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  • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
    Im planning on possibly doing that as well, i started a website, a blog, a forum, about 5 months ago. Making very small amount of chump change at the moment but im hoping on scaling up to an amount i can live off of while trabeling a little bit. I think it would be prety cool to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      As someone who's backpacked extensively and who also runs an IM business, here's my opinion: forget about it.
      I will second this - as someone who has had to move 10 times or more in the past 3 years.

      Unless you have a really solid set up, such as some regular paid workers who you can rely on to cover basic tasks, a home base that someone can monitor mail etc from, and more autopilot income in place.

      Getting and maintaining clients can be really tricky - so a lot of this depends on your long term business model.

      I suggest you save your money, and just travel for a few months and then get back to a home base where you can really work.
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  • Profile picture of the author azmanar
    Hi,

    I started traveling when I was 17. When I started working, somehow the work requires me to travel. Then, when I'm on my own again, I had to travel about too.

    Before you travel, you got to have a plan after doing some research. You'll get yourself into trouble, if you don't.

    Say you want to travel to East Asia to countries namely Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, Korea, Japan, Taiwan and China.

    The first set of things to know and consider are :

    1. Plotting the cities you want to drop by and for how long - read reviews ( safety, environment, transport, accommodations etc )

    2. How much it would cost you for - accommodation, food, transport

    3. Internet connection - reliability, speed & bandwidth

    4. Get your CC/DB accessible to your funds in foreign lands

    5. Locations of British High Commission/Consul and latest contact numbers

    Here are some other concerns:
    - You can't stay in hostels because you'll get your stuff stolen. So it has to be living in hotels or homestays or chalets.
    - Consider easy access to public transport from the place you stay
    - Hotels may claim they have internet, yet you'll find many of them unreliable and terribly slow.
    - Even if you have reliable internet connection, you may not be able to access some important sites because of Government Firewalls.
    - And you have to note that Hotspots, Hotel networks and cafes are infested with sniffers ready to steal your credentials.
    - For safety, security and to crash through Government Firewalls, you need to subscribe to 2 VPNs. If one doesn't work, the other is a fallback.

    My recommendation is, pick a hotel ( with all the specs ) in a city of each country and make it as your base. Then make day trips to tourist spots and interesting places. Take lots of photographs/videos. Once you get back in the evening and post them into your travel blog.

    Then hop to another city with all the specs.
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  • Profile picture of the author ZMing
    Making money while travel is my goal also. But I just started in IM, totally do not know how to start it. It is great you can earn $2000 monthly. I still have long way to go.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrdomains
      Not sure why you are asking... you already have it made....

      CB products can have short or long lifespans. Here´s what you can do if it seems to be a stable earner.

      Work a dayjob to cover ALL you living costs. Save every penny of the 2000 monthly CB bucks for a full year. That's 24 grand. Use 18 grand to travel - take it easy and it should easily keep you on the road for 6 - 9 months. Put the final 6 grand on hold as backup.

      While you are away, your CB thing will hopefully have made you another 12 - 18 grand which you will need as personal running cost money back home while you develop your next product. I agree with the others, don't expect to be very productive on the road. Do the work at home (be super-productive).

      Utopian scenario - but closer to reality than many seem to think. The problem is you need to be young and do this kind of stuff before you settle in to the daily reality of mortgages and family. You can do it when you retire too
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  • Profile picture of the author A.Green
    It also depends on what you consider "traveling." I agree with the others that it would be difficult to travel like a typical tourist while running your business, but what about re-locating for a few months at a time? You'll still have more expenses than at home, but it's cheaper than "tourist travel" and easier to manage than changing location every week.

    Research well, though.

    As Thomas mentioned, you may have visa-related expenses, apartment-finding expenses (short-term tourist rentals or real estate agent fees), internet may be more expensive (I've paid up to $100/mo and it wasn't even unlimited) and you may end up paying more for some things if you don't know the local language.
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    • Profile picture of the author LloydC
      Be aware that "traveling whilst running a business" and "going on holiday" are 2 different things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Exel
    If you wait too long you'll regret it eventually. The conditions will never be perfect. While important
    to have a basic plan and listen to people's advice, you need to do what you want to do and decide
    for yourself if you can live that way and if that's the right thing for you. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rose Anderson
    I agree with the others that it would be difficult to travel and offer a service business. Trying to find stable internet connections and dealing with deadlines could turn into a nightmare.

    But you might want to visit this site. The guy's goal is to visit every country in the world and he's well on his way. He blogs about his travels as well as writing guides on how he travels cheaply. I find his adventures interesting.

    The Art of Non-Conformity » 3--5

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  • Profile picture of the author Cheryl Low
    There are a few places in the world where traveling is cheap (e.g. Asia and South America) but internet access may not be so reliable.

    If have a stable list of subscribers, you may set up enough email / newsletter follow-ups to keep the relationship going while you're away from your computer.

    I have never done it but I can imagine doing this while traveling for an extended period of time will be hard - unless you are very disciplined about logging in at least a couple of hours a day, while trying to see the sights and take in as much as you can of the new place. You may then need to plan your trip around internet access...
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  • Profile picture of the author Snow_Predator
    I think A.Green's idea of relocation would be a good idea. I can't possibly imagine myself traveling around all the time and being able to focus on my work. I get travel sickness, lol. It would be far better I think to stay in one place for a good few months before moving on to the next.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      Originally Posted by Snow_Predator View Post

      I think A.Green's idea of relocation would be a good idea. I can't possibly imagine myself traveling around all the time and being able to focus on my work. I get travel sickness, lol. It would be far better I think to stay in one place for a good few months before moving on to the next.
      Try and head for somewhere like Chiang Mai, Bangkok, Cebu, Manila, Davao, Bali, or Saigon.

      Lots of solo entrepreneurs and start-ups there living of hardly anything and trying to grow businesses. Personally, I'd go with Chiang Mai if you aren't quite making a ton yet.

      $500 will afford you a comfortable life, easily.
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      • Profile picture of the author azmanar
        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        $500 will afford you a comfortable life, easily.
        Depends on where you're at as well as the sort of privacy, environment and facilities you want.

        If you're putting up with friends living in apartments at the location, that'll be economical. But when you have friends living with other transient friends, you'll get distracted and all your IM plans go down the drain. Also, the safety of your valuables may become a concern.

        Malaysia:
        A decent no stars and no frills hotel room with good internet connection would cost you about $40 per day. Food would be about $20 per day. Public transport, if you're active would cost about $10 per day. No government firewall here.

        UK nationals could stay in Malaysia visa free for 3 to 6 months. They can extend their stay through the immigration office. Malaysians get the same treatment in UK and EU.

        China:
        A decent hotel in China may cost you $40 per day. 1 particular hotel chain I can recommend is Qi Tian Jiudian ( 7 Days Inn ). Good internet connection and clean. Food is about $20 per day. Public transport is cheap. Great Firewall of China - no FB, no Twitter, poor Google. I overcome this by using my VPN. I watch Hulu shows daily.

        You pay for a visa for the duration you want before leaving to China. I can get from 1 month to 1 year. Probably US, Singapore and British citizens get visa free visit for 1 - 3 months and then they need visas. Not sure.

        Thailand & Indonesia:
        About the same cost as Malaysia. No firewall, I guess. Visa free.

        Singapore:
        A decent no frills hotel in Little India about $60 per day. Add $10 for internet. Food about $30 per day. Transport is cheap. Visa free.

        Hong Kong:
        At least $100 per day for a decent hotel when there are no major events happening. Better at Mongkok area. Food about $40 per day. Transport is cheap. Visa free.

        Always look for places slightly away from downtown yet have MRT stations or other public transport nearby. Less messy, less expensive, less noise, better internet, cleaner and safer environment.

        For squeaky clean and great environment, start from Singapore. Then go north for more relaxed environment in Malaysia and move even north to Thailand for unlimited fun time. Then from Bangkok, fly to China - the country which is about to overtake USA in terms of economy.

        Shenzhen city would be a good starting point in China. Lots of products potentially good for merchandising.

        The best place to dig for good info before you travel is Expats Forums. Great resources for almost every major city in East Asia.

        Good luck !
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        • Profile picture of the author fin
          In Chiang Mai you can rent a studio in an apartment complex for less than $200 per month, and that includes wi-fi and water. Electricity is about $30 maybe. Food is about $1 per dish is most places outside the tourist traps. And it's great. Bottled water is about 10c for 3 liters from a machine. Scooter and gas will maybe be about $100 per month.

          Very cheap. It's why so much entrepreneurs live there.

          Further north is even cheaper, in places like Pai.
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          • Profile picture of the author azmanar
            Originally Posted by fin View Post

            In Chiang Mai you can rent a studio in an apartment complex for less than $200 per month, and that includes wi-fi and water. Electricity is about $30 maybe. Food is about $1 per dish is most places outside the tourist traps. And it's great. Bottled water is about 10c for 3 liters from a machine. Scooter and gas will maybe be about $100 per month.

            Very cheap. It's why so much entrepreneurs live there.

            Further north is even cheaper, in places like Pai.
            Great place to be. I don't mind shifting there if I was younger.

            One thing travelers ought to be concerned about is food. The level of cleanliness in food preparation is still a problem in parts of Asia. If we want to avoid diarrhea, allergies or other issues, then don't be too "food-adventurous" in the beginning.

            Eat at good restaurants first even if they would cost more. Once we're familiar with the area, we would definitely find cheaper and clean ones for the long stay.

            I have had a very bad experiences that made me extremely cautious about food everywhere I go. Keeping oneself healthy is important to stay productive while traveling.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yulia from DNP
    There are reosrts for (very expensive) woirldwide for people who are interested in combining travel and work. what they offer is basically a "vacation " like environment where you can work with your laptop, there all kinds of services there in terms of technology but again, pricey.
    What you can do and its cheap, is rent a house for a month in Thailand fore example, very cheap there.And travel one day /work one day, or whatever schedule you can work out. You will be able to relax and feel like at home while traveling a beautiful place. Then pick another place and so on.
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  • I have done that till recently I just try to do pre-recorded webinars and less live since some places I go to the internet is horrible, but i can upload videos and i can always blast out emails but I can't do live webinars. Now that I'm home I do more live webinars. But in general as long as you have internet you can do everything from the road.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
      Originally Posted by Snow_Predator View Post

      It would be far better I think to stay in one place for a good few months before moving on to the next.
      The issue with this (and I know from personal experience) is traction.

      My moves were the result of my significant other and his job, but every time we would get somewhere and I'd come up with my plan on how to proceed, it would take time to meet people long enough to gain their trust we would up and move again before I could actually get some real work done for them.

      Before going to your next location, you'll really need to scope it out to see if it is going to be conducive/beneficial toward your business goals - not just travel where you want because you think it will be "cool."
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  • Profile picture of the author michaeljcheney
    You need to start selling a product on how you're banking that $2k a month from Clickbank, get that launched, make more money and then travel.

    You can effectively launch > move > launch > move and do that on a 3 month cycle round the year and make a good income and fill your passport with exotic stamps at the same time! :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Surminga
    Why don't you save your money up and travel for a month at a time? Or hire somebody to run your IM business majority all the while you are still heavily involved whilst travelling
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  • Profile picture of the author Tarismo818
    Only advice i could say is to make sure you are making more then $2k per month before you start spending tons on plane tickets and hotel stays.
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    • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
      1st and foremost; don't let anyone kill your dreams. If you want to do it then do it.

      2. Make sure you have 10K or more sitting in case you run into a tight spot.

      3. let's clearly define travel. If you think you will be going from hotel to hotel 1 week or a couple of days per city I think you may wish to rethink your plan.

      However, if going to one city in one country for 3 to 6 months and getting a short term apartment is what you are after so you have a good working home base then it's 100% doable.

      As an example go to Arequipa Peru and stay 6 months. You can request a 183 day visa at the border when you enter. They rarely refuse and only give you 90 days. And if they do leave for 1 hour and recross the border for 3-6 more months.

      Why Arequipa? You can rent a furnished condo (departmenta) in the Cayma district (the nicest area) for $300 a month including utilities. Food is some of the best you will ever eat and a 3 course lunch out is $1.50 (yes one dollar and fifty cents or 4.5 to 5 Soles). If you spend any more than 1k per month for everything including fun you're getting Gringo'ed (price jacked).

      Stay 6 months and save 6k. Then you have plenty for your airfare to say Cuenca Ecuador where you can stay 3 months or apply for a K12 visa and stay for 6. They are just opening the visa office in Cuenca now so you don't have to fly to Quito anymore to extend your visa. Yes, I know you don't need a visa the 1st 3 months, but the 2nd 3 months you need both a visa and the extension (sounds weird but true).

      Then if your IM biz is doing well at least 3k net and you're a man head to Medellin Colombia. I said if you're a man so need I say more?

      Then to my fave, Montevideo Uruguay. Here again you will need 3k net but wow what a nice place. Parrillas on every corner, everyone drinks Yerba Mate, tons of great old world architecture, the people look like they are more European than SA by a long shot and Punta Del Este and Colonia are just right up the road (in opposite directions).
      Be prepared for small apartments and paying a little more, but well worth it.

      There is easily your 1st 2 years.

      Have fun.

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  • Profile picture of the author murphyslaw
    This is something I want to do myself, but I've set a few goals and conditions that I need to reach first before I even attempt it. One thing I do like to research about is the cost of living in different countries. I'll probably travel to countries that have a good enough internet infrastructure and I'd be comfortable enough living off $500-600 a month. Travel insurance is a must by the way.
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  • Profile picture of the author imgeek2727
    Depending on the countries you visit, you can do quite a bit of traveling at $1000 to $2000 a month.

    Save on air travel by doing land travel. Of course, this only works if you are visiting continental countries.

    Save money on accommodations by lodging in camp grounds or youth hostels.

    Traveling on a budget is not a problem. However, I suggest you travel with a buddy because not all countries are safe.
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  • Profile picture of the author rockong
    Same goal as mine - travel the world. Although I'm starting small and hitting the hot spots in the USA first so perhaps you can take little adventures near the UK. Let those mini vacations inspire you to make more money in IM
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    • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
      Look into "International Living" ezine - it's for people who want to ex-patriate to other countries, and it has great advice on living conditions, and tips for making money abroad and/or online.

      Don't have a link right now, but Google it...
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  • Profile picture of the author A.Green
    it would take time to meet people long enough to gain their trust we would up and move again before I could actually get some real work done for them.
    Jill, were you trying to do offline work? If so, I imagine that would be hard, in no small part due to work permit issues. If you conduct all your business online, it's not so bad. Depending on where you travel, you do have to be prepared for internet and/or power outages, but if you plan ahead, it's workable. Maybe not easy, but workable. I'm also speaking from personal experience.

    ...

    Anyway, Snow, I think you can do it, just be careful. Like the others, I highly recommend having a good amount of savings because even when you're returning to a country you know, you can be hit with unexpected expenses. (Personal experience again.)
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    • Profile picture of the author webmonopoly
      Originally Posted by A.Green View Post

      Jill, were you trying to do offline work? If so, I imagine that would be hard, in no small part due to work permit issues. If you conduct all your business online, it's not so bad. Depending on where you travel, you do have to be prepared for internet and/or power outages, but if you plan ahead, it's workable. Maybe not easy, but workable. I'm also speaking from personal experience.

      ...

      Anyway, Snow, I think you can do it, just be careful. Like the others, I highly recommend having a good amount of savings because even when you're returning to a country you know, you can be hit with unexpected expenses. (Personal experience again.)
      I like this idea...
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  • Profile picture of the author seether101
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    honestly, i think its gonna be hard to adjust, as different countries have different situation as to internet and im rules.
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    This is the link to Ruth Pounds website and she is currently traveling while working online. You can follow her experience and possibly pick up some tips and advice on her blog.

    It can be done......
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    • Profile picture of the author alfid
      I like that picture above. It says a lot. I think if you live frugally you could travel places on 2,000 per month.
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  • Profile picture of the author Trevor M
    Traveling has always been something I've been passionate about too. I've done it quite a bit and still maintained all my internet activities well.

    The main thing you've got to be able to do is shift focus quickly.

    Some people head off traveling, get into vacation mode and find it hard to get out of. You need to develop the ability to get out of vacation mode... even if it's only for a few hours each day.

    Don't let people tell you you can't do it. I have. And many others have.

    Good luck!

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  • Profile picture of the author dcristo
    you'd be crazy to try it only earning $2k/month and relying on one income source.

    why are you in such a rush to travel?
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    • Profile picture of the author Snow_Predator
      Wow, some amazing replies. I sure hope this thread stays active for a long time for the benefit for anyone wishing to start traveling. I already have enough info to begin doing some solid research.

      FarangKing, your post was especially inspiring, thanks a lot. Ruth P and Azmanar have also offered some solid advice. Ruth, I've bookmarked your site and will be checking it out soon. Lots of great advice from other Warriors too, thanks a lot guys.

      This is very tempting at the moment:

      Originally Posted by FarangKing View Post


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      I'll go the route of getting a short term apartment in SE Asia or South America and spend 4-6 months at a time in one place.

      Good luck and enjoy!
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    • Profile picture of the author jeffreydale
      Originally Posted by dcristo View Post

      you'd be crazy to try it only earning $2k/month and relying on one income source.

      why are you in such a rush to travel?
      Agreed. What if something happens to your clickbank account? What if your site gets hacked? Or laptop stolen.. or anything.

      Not saying you shouldn't follow your dream. In fact, this is also a dream of mine. I'd love to make a killing from my website and just travel and party all over the place.. but I agree that you should have another source of income, just in case you get into a hiccup..

      Good luck
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  • Profile picture of the author dcristo
    @Ruth P emphasis on the words "one income source". it is crazy if you have no other money in the bank, no matter how rosey a picture you want to paint it.
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    • Profile picture of the author bengirwb
      Travel?

      What product would I come up with?

      Travel guides.

      You can explore a country, a region or a major city. Put together an ebook with plenty of travel tips, sights to see, maps, etc.

      Put the guide on Amazon Kindle and move on to the next place.

      Rick Steves has been doing it for years with published guides.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ruth P
    Like I said, I have a savings cushion and I am glad I do. I highly recommend that anyone who starts this kind of journey does too. But I was addressing many of the negative points in this thread that don't really make sense - that is, if you really want to make something happen.

    I made sure I saved enough to support myself for 6 months. I ended up saving more and it's really, really good to have that cushion.

    The cushion doesn't just come from money in the bank, though. For example, if you can write, you can get some writing gigs to cover low months. Same with any other services.

    Also, if the worst came to the worst what would you do? That's what you need to ask yourself before you go. But don't let fear stop you from going!

    I am doing it right now - I am sitting outside in Thailand right now replying to this thread - and I am sharing what I've learned. Is it all rosy? No, it can be hard work. But it was also hard work before I left. It takes effort, determination, and sometimes you feel bad that you're not sightseeing every day. But I am really glad I left, and I also faced negativity before I did. Some of it is productive because you don't want to have no back up plan. That said, some people who wait too long come up with too many excuses not to do something they want.
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    • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
      Originally Posted by Ruth P View Post

      I am doing it right now - I am sitting outside in Thailand right now replying to this thread - and I am sharing what I've learned. Is it all rosy? No, it can be hard work. But it was also hard work before I left. It takes effort, determination, and sometimes you feel bad that you're not sightseeing every day. But I am really glad I left, and I also faced negativity before I did. Some of it is productive because you don't want to have no back up plan. That said, some people who wait too long come up with too many excuses not to do something they want.
      Been guilty of that myself, and trust me - years can fly by while you're waiting for the 'perfect time' to do what you want.

      I've never moved around much, but I've traveled in the US all my life. My Mother liked to travel, then when I got married my wife also liked to travel. Our kids were always the ones in school who had 'been everywhere'. Almost every time one of my oldest daughter's teachers would mention some US city, travel destination, etc. she would look at my daughter and say "Don't tell me - you've been there?" She usually had :p

      I hear so many people say "I would love to travel", but they live less than 100 miles from some major tourist mecca and have never been there! It's the difference between dreaming and doing.

      Be prudent, make preparations, but don't let fear of the unknown stop you from steppin out! The daughter I mentioned above, for her 25th birthday took a 2-week hiking trip in Spain by herself. No worries! She was perfectly confident hitchhiking alone in a country where she had never been (in fact, she had only been off the North American continent once before then).

      You can do it!
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  • Profile picture of the author dcristo
    that would be the sensible thing to do.

    that said, i don't get the impression the OP is in the same situation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joanne D
    Lots of great information here - pros and cons. But, the bottom line is that there will never be a perfect time; if you wait for that "perfect time" you may one day find that it has passed you by. If this is what you want to do, plan for it and go for it.
    My husband and I have long dreamed of traveling all of North America in our motorhome full-time. We waited years, waiting for the "perfect" timing which we now know will never come. We wasted all those years...
    However, we are in the process of selling off most of our belongings and will be on the road by the end of September. What prompted this now? A serious medical issue... unfortunately, although we are going to live our dream, the timing may be limited now because we waited too long.
    Luckily, we have our Network Marketing business that will provide us with a very nice income for the rest of our lives. AND we can grow it even further - everywhere we go there will be new people that will be willing to join our business.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkBradley
    I am looking at replacing my desktop computer with a server that i can access from anywhere.

    Hook up to my Iphone and get one of those roll out keyboards. And plug into the TV in my cheap motel.

    I think thailand will be my 1st stop. Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
      Originally Posted by MarkBradley View Post

      I am looking at replacing my desktop computer with a server that i can access from anywhere.

      Hook up to my Iphone and get one of those roll out keyboards. And plug into the TV in my cheap motel.

      I think thailand will be my 1st stop. Mark
      Not sure I'd go that direction - When you have your web properties on a paid hosting site (Hostgator, Bluehost, etc.) you have a staff of people to make sure the servers are up 24-7. You can't do that if you're in Thailand and your server is in Ohio. Can you afford a special trip back to the states to reboot your server?

      Once you have more cashflow(6-10k a month) you can go wherever you want in the world and be comfortable, and baller status in non-first world countries. Even 2k a month is near baller status in SEA.
      OK - I've heard this term several times now... (do I dare ask) what is "baller status"?

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  • Profile picture of the author Adie
    As a single guy in early thirties, this is also my ultimate goal. I am making more that what you make and the only difference is that, I am already outside US, UK, AU, or Can. I just don't have self-confidence yet... My dream is to travel in Europe, Canada, and South Korea...

    Been to Japan for 6 months in 2002 and the language barrier problem was a little bit of a nightmare...
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  • Profile picture of the author Bigfoot1
    Southeast Asia is the way to go. 2000 dollars a month is a solid income. In a second tier city like Chang Mai, Thailand, 1000 dollars a month is enough. So you'd save 1k a month or reinvest it, while 1k is for living expenses.

    Once you have more cashflow(6-10k a month) you can go wherever you want in the world and be comfortable, and baller status in non-first world countries. Even 2k a month is near baller status in SEA.

    As a single guy, I love traveling to exotic countries and meeting interesting new people.

    I'm going to the DR soon for a week, its going to be fun!
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  • Profile picture of the author azmanar
    Hi,

    It is good to over estimate traveling expenses. You'll find yourself saving much money doing so.

    Thailand is fun. Malaysia is nice. Singapore is great. But I still recommend traveling to China when you have the chance. It is huge and interesting as well as relatively cheap. ( VPN needed )

    Make a main city as your base and travel by fast train to visit other cities.

    For example:
    1. Shenzhen as base. Visit Guangzhou, Dongguan, Macao and Hong Kong from there.

    2. Shanghai as base. Visit Hangzhou, Nanjing, Ningpo and Suzhou from there.

    The fast trains are reliable, clean and cheap. Their express buses are even cheaper. To Macao or Hong Kong use the express ferry.

    There are scores of interesting places to visit in each city in China. You're never short of material to blog about. Many Brits there to share insights and biz opps or even work. Good opportunity to learn Mandarin, as well. To get a feel of expat life, visit Shenzhen Party and some tourism info here.
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  • I had a "condo" in Chiang Mai Thailand for about $60 per month. Wi-fi and electric were extra but not much extra. Not the nicest place but a Western-style toilet, bar and restaurant, internet loungue, and I was the only "farang" in a 12-story building (if not the only one for a 7 block radius). It was shabby, sure, but living the way I did I made friends with a ton of locals and really got inside the culture quick. Once you're in, you're really in.

    Wanna lavish it up a bit? A beautiful condo, fully furnished, with pool on-site can be had for $200 - 300 per month in Chiang Mai.

    My motorbike - $45 per month.

    You can't put a price on the experiences I had living in Southeast Asia for just under 5 years. Riding motorbikes around Thailand, Vietnam and Laos on my weeks off. Lived on the islands for a while, working on my internet business in the mornings and scuba diving all afternoon. Then just lounging at the beach bars in the evenings, eating some of most delicious food in the world and getting skunked.

    And it doesn't cost much at all. At $2K per month, you're balling. I'm home dealing with family issues right now, but I'll be heading back before Christmas.

    I second the notion, however, that it's best to settle down in one spot for 3 months at a minimum and use your time off to explore the surrounding area. You learn so much more about a place that way anyways.

    Save up a safety cushion and just go do it. It's your life. You only get one.

    Unless you get more...
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  • This conversation is branching out in 2 different topics:

    1) Can he live comfortably with $2k/month in South East Asia? Yes, absolutely.

    2) Can he grow his online business while backpacking around South East Asia? No, very difficult: lack of focus, many distractions, constant moving around, erratic working schedules, etc. Not the best environment towards productivity. If you travel, your online business will suffer, period. You gotta decide whether you want to travel or whether you want to grow your online business at this point of your life. Both of them are NOT going to happen, unless you travel and stay put (rent an apartment) for a few months abroad, even though that's not technically "traveling".
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    • Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      This conversation is branching out in 2 different topics:

      1) Can he live comfortably with $2k/month in South East Asia? Yes, absolutely.

      2) Can he grow his online business while backpacking around South East Asia? No, very difficult: lack of focus, many distractions, constant moving around, erratic working schedules, etc. Not the best environment towards productivity. If you travel, your online business will suffer, period. You gotta decide whether you want to travel or whether you want to grow your online business at this point of your life. Both of them are NOT going to happen, unless you travel and stay put (rent an apartment) for a few months abroad, even though that's not technically "traveling".
      On the contrary, I'd argue that renting an apartment for a few months is even more "traveling" than skipping through a whirlwind of destinations, never embracing the time it takes to truly enjoy or understand them.

      In fact, OP, my official recommendation is to pick one destination and stay there for a year. Don't be a backpacker; be a world citizen who goes on short backpacking trips when you have time off your work.

      Will it be difficult to focus living in paradise?

      Of course it will. Does that mean you should ignore your dreams and stay safely put in a place that bores you rather than live somewhere amazing and inspiring? I say no.

      That's like insisting someone turn down the opportunity to live on the beachfront in Hawaii while building their business even though they've proven they can afford to.

      Focus is any IMer's main problem, no matter where you're located. I can find a party in my hometown any day of the week, but I still learn to control myself and get things done when they need doing. If you don't learn to tackle that challenge at some point, you're most likely going to fail no matter where you live.

      For someone who figures out the focus "problem" (you obviously already have it somewhat figured or you wouldn't be making a consistent income), living in a foreign country and enjoying life to the fullest while building a business is very doable.

      Easy? No. But certainly doable.

      In fact, any review of the disadvantages and pitfalls is shortsighted without a look at the advantages. One major advantage is that with the exchange rates involved, you get a substantial financial edge by relocating there. Once you're making a decent amount of money, you can set a budget, live off 1-2K a month, and put the rest toward investments & savings.

      You're already making 2K a month. If there's potential to see continued success with what you're doing, I say go for it (again, with a safety net already in place though). Allow yourself to go buck wild the first 2 or 3 weeks after you get there, and then force yourself to build a regular schedule.

      Start by setting rules for yourself...

      Designate a certain number of hours a day towards work - just as if you were at home working a job. Don't allow yourself a drink until you've put in your hours for the day, and on top of that, make an agreement with a friend that if you don't put in your hours for the day you have to pay them money.

      Set goals and monitor them closely. Take weekends off so you can enjoy yourself and unwind. Get up early most days, and go to the gymn on a regular basis. Enroll in a language or martial arts class to further solidify your concrete, normal schedule. Start a small-time export business for additional side income, leveraging your location to the fullest while filling your time with yet another productive venture.

      Get creative and do whatever it takes to stay on track while there. Heck, since you make your own hours already, you can work hard for 2 or 3 weeks at a time and then take a week off to go check out the sights and sounds.

      Rinse and repeat, as they say.

      If you're the type of person who craves adventure - who wants to live the international life and see the world - there will always be people to tell you it's foolish, you're crazy, or it can't be done.

      A minority of us simply do what we want to anyways.

      We'd rather live outside the box and find a way to make it work; if we did it any other way, we wouldn't be happy.

      It's not for everyone...but there are people who have done it before you in a multitude of different ways. If you want it bad enough, just go pave your own unique path.
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  • Profile picture of the author mikesan
    (right after posting I just saw the post above AA and yea, that's what I meant too :-)

    You might want to try traveling first to a developing country. I've been living on and off in the Philippines for quite some time now and although fortunately I make more than 2K/month..if I did make that amount, it's still be very doable to live well here.

    So decide first where exactly you want to travel and if you're actually going to be moving around often..because if so then you need to consider the expenses of traveling ie. plane, train, buses, etc.

    Also a huge plus with living in a developing country, especially the Philippines is that you can find great talent to help expand and grow your internet biz. There are plenty of SEO's and good content writers here that can work part time for around $175 - $250 per month. A really great deal if you know how to leverage their skills.

    Hope that helped.
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    • Profile picture of the author Snow_Predator
      Originally Posted by Superior Content Creation View Post

      I had a "condo" in Chiang Mai Thailand for about $60 per month. Wi-fi and electric were extra but not much extra. Not the nicest place but a Western-style toilet, bar and restaurant, internet loungue, and I was the only "farang" in a 12-story building (if not the only one for a 7 block radius). It was shabby, sure, but living the way I did I made friends with a ton of locals and really got inside the culture quick. Once you're in, you're really in.

      Wanna lavish it up a bit? A beautiful condo, fully furnished, with pool on-site can be had for $200 - 300 per month in Chiang Mai.

      My motorbike - $45 per month.

      You can't put a price on the experiences I had living in Southeast Asia for just under 5 years. Riding motorbikes around Thailand, Vietnam and Laos on my weeks off. Lived on the islands for a while, working on my internet business in the mornings and scuba diving all afternoon. Then just lounging at the beach bars in the evenings, eating some of most delicious food in the world and getting skunked.

      And it doesn't cost much at all. At $2K per month, you're balling. I'm home dealing with family issues right now, but I'll be heading back before Christmas.

      I second the notion, however, that it's best to settle down in one spot for 3 months at a minimum and use your time off to explore the surrounding area. You learn so much more about a place that way anyways.

      Save up a safety cushion and just go do it. It's your life. You only get one.

      Unless you get more...
      Wow, what a beautiful description. Chiang Mai sounds really appealing right about now. I think settling down for a few months is essential if I am to continue growing my online income.

      Originally Posted by mikesan View Post

      (right after posting I just saw the post above AA and yea, that's what I meant too :-)

      You might want to try traveling first to a developing country. I've been living on and off in the Philippines for quite some time now and although fortunately I make more than 2K/month..if I did make that amount, it's still be very doable to live well here.

      So decide first where exactly you want to travel and if you're actually going to be moving around often..because if so then you need to consider the expenses of traveling ie. plane, train, buses, etc.

      Also a huge plus with living in a developing country, especially the Philippines is that you can find great talent to help expand and grow your internet biz. There are plenty of SEO's and good content writers here that can work part time for around $175 - $250 per month. A really great deal if you know how to leverage their skills.

      Hope that helped.
      Nice one mikesan, I hadn't actually thought about using my travels to find international talent. The Philippines is a great place for outsourcing. Going there physically, I could set up a group of loyal employees and then manage them online while I continue my travels. What an excellent insight :p
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      • Profile picture of the author fin
        Originally Posted by Snow_Predator View Post

        Wow, what a beautiful description. Chiang Mai sounds really appealing right about now. I think settling down for a few months is essential if I am to continue growing my online income.

        You should do it.

        I'd be there tomorrow if I could. I'm going in October with my brother so I have to wait until then, but as soon as he's away I'm off up to Chiang Mai to live the good life.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Stephens
    Definitely not worth traveling on that sort of income. I would recommend scaling that up a bit before even considering traveling the world.
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  • Do it! Just pick up and go!
    I would if I could but I have too many responsibilities at home now. Family etc.
    I spent many years travelling on a limited budget and if you have 2K coming in and no bills at home to pay then just go!
    Good luck to you!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yanni6
    I would start of just visiting places nearby and staying at 100 dollar a night hotels.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
    Great post!!! Who doesn`t want to travel the world and make money while doing it. I don`t as the boys are only 5, but I would be doing it as well. I agree 100% that the drive to create an income that you rely on is far greater then the drive to get away from your job.

    I say if you can do it go for it. Enjoy the world for those of us who are waiting for the kids to finish high school.
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  • Profile picture of the author alleycatnews
    lots of people doing it do a google search for digital nomads. You will find a bunch I read some of the blogs they put out etc.. One lady traveled thru housesitting etc.. Her costs including food, lodging, etc... was under $17k for the year.

    So yes its very doable making $2k a month but you have to pick your spots. TRAVEL SLOWING! you aren't going to be able to make it jumping on a plane every week.

    Do some housesitting will be able to visit and really explore places for a month or two or 3 at a time. Still do your business.

    have FUN
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    • Profile picture of the author azmanar
      Originally Posted by alleycatnews View Post

      lots of people doing it do a google search for digital nomads. You will find a bunch I read some of the blogs they put out etc.. One lady traveled thru housesitting etc.. Her costs including food, lodging, etc... was under $17k for the year.

      So yes its very doable making $2k a month but you have to pick your spots. TRAVEL SLOWING! you aren't going to be able to make it jumping on a plane every week.

      Do some housesitting will be able to visit and really explore places for a month or two or 3 at a time. Still do your business.

      have FUN
      Hi,

      There are many positions available in main China cities for English and French tutors. Mostly offered by private schools for young children and evening classes for adults. The pay range is about $2,000 to $3,000 a month. They are not too fussy about special certifications as long as the tutors are well attired, articulate and caucasians preferred with passports from US, UK, NZ, Ireland, Canada, France or Australia. Some providers are also looking for private tutors like 2 to 3 hours a day paying about $20 to $50 per hour, 3 to 4 times a week. Some for kiddy schools like 4 hours a day, 5 days a week.

      Some friends from France are teaching in Thailand private colleges. Not sure whether they are getting the same level of wages as in China.

      For China, just logon and register at Expats forums, you'll find the offers. After taking the positions, make a plan on how to use free times to explore as well as to manage IM biz. Here is an example.

      The point is to earn money and support the foreign stay without eating-up the income from IM. At the same time, getting immersed in the local culture. And .. you'll never know the sort of network you'll be building up and the unexpected opportunities you'll be creating.
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  • I have traveled or years and my IM business ran, but took years to setup. It's not easy!
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam1987
    If its your first time i would suggest saving up some more cash say around $10,000 then go travelling around Asia whilst maintaining your business and broadening your horizons.

    When i first started travelling Asia, my previous business dropped like a ton of bricks and i was spending well over $3000 of per month on living / trave costs.... but having alot of fun and exploring new business ventures at the same time.

    You can get a decent hotel with WIFI in most major cities for around $30 / night.

    Avoid Hong Kong, Singapore, Tokyo - Your $2000 wont last you a week in them cities.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Andrews
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    I've just set up a new social group here on the WF called Digital Nomads if the OP or anyone else would be interested in taking a look or better yet, joining...

    WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums - Digital Nomads

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  • Profile picture of the author Anthony W
    This is what I'm doing right now. Over the last 4 months, I've visited 12 new cities and had amazing time. My goal for the next year is to visit 1 new city every month.

    Here's what I would do if I were traveling on a $2K budget

    - stay in hostels
    - buy flights through RyanAir when traveling through Europe. Service sucks, but you won't find any cheaper deals
    - exchange money through ATM machines, as your bank will give you the best exchange rate
    - find a local grocery store and buy groceries instead of eating out every meal
    - find a wi-fi area and work at least 6 hours per day and try to get up to $4k as quickly as possible. start optimizing your sales funnel, create better offers, recruit affiliates and do JVs

    Best of luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author briankno
    I agree with everyone that has a positive outlook on traveling and working an IM business. If you can be dedicated and take care of yourself on the road then it is totally reasonable to live that life. Cheers to everyone that is doing and I hope to see you in a bar someday on the other side of the world.
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    • Profile picture of the author PazG
      Loving this thread. I'm doing pretty good as far as IM monthly earnings go and am looking to start living the 'international lifestyle' after being in the same place for the past two years. Lot's of great info here, especially regarding Chiang Mai. And for those of you who are not familiar with the term 'Baller' then I think that Dave Chappelle says it best
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMLRg8xSgjs
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt@viewswin
    Places like Syria and Kabul are cheap at the moment!
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    I am location independent and love it.

    $2,000 a month is enough money to live decently in many parts of the world. I would recommend South East Asia (Thailand in particular).

    Though it's easier to sit still and live somewhere for 6+ months at a time than travel around.

    Travelling costs money. It's a distraction and makes it difficult to get work done.

    Go somewhere. Stay put. Do some work.

    Sorted.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Scott
    I been all over Asia and South America for the past 8 years running my business with no problems. The biggest thing is internet connection and speed in some countries. Korea has some super fast internet and you can find cheap places to stay outside of Seoul. Philippines is another favorite. You can hire and train VAs pretty cheaply to help too. Recommend the "4-Hour Work Week, but it's more like 5.
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    I think you would be a great candidate for couch surfing The dangers of couchsurfing
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  • Profile picture of the author vtotheyouknow
    You're at $2000/month...what is there to think about? Get your ass to Thailand already!

    I've met folks who came out here with NOTHING and somehow eked out an existence and eventually built impressive online businesses.

    But at 2k/mo, no eking will be needed. However, you will meet a lot of amazing, interesting, beautiful human beings. You WILL have an adventure. You will NOT miss the weather in UK. And you WILL be able to find football at a legit pub when the homesickness hits. ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author AlexandraMarch
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    I think you can totally do it with 2000/month...You won't get to live in the most luxorious hotels, but you won't starve either. When I was a student I lived in Paris, which is by no means cheap and still managed with 800 euros per month...I lived in a student dorm, but other than that I still had to buy clothes, food and pay for transportation. It was allright and I still managed to travel around France so I would say it is possible.

    It all depends though on how much your business can survive without you.
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  • Profile picture of the author writeaway
    If you are really adventurous you can get by WITH VERY LITTLE MONEY if you travel through sub-Saharan Africa or through India. SE Asia can get pricey unless you stay out of the big cities. The downside is that the cheaper the region, the pricier the Internet connection.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stuart Walker
    SE Asia can get pricey unless you stay out of the big cities. The downside is that the cheaper the region, the pricier the Internet connection.
    SE Asia is pretty much as cheap as it gets for people who want to live a semi-Western style lifestyle without 'slumming' it too much. You can live a reasonable standard of living in most place in SE Asia on $2,000 a month.
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  • Profile picture of the author LeeLee
    If you can get creative and lower your cost of living you can enjoy a mini retirement like in the Four Hour Work Week.

    I highly recommend it. I would have gone postal years ago without occasional breaks from over responsibility.
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    • Profile picture of the author adgaro
      Eastern Europe (Ukraine for example) is cheap and there are a lot of nice towns there.
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