by HeySal
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Electric is back after a short time out. Got some wicked lightning and another pretty heavy rain.
I can't believe the rain we're getting out here while the midwest is shriveling. Almost like the climate has shifted rather than changed. Wonder how many degrees difference there is in the tilt of the planet this year from the last two.
  • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
    Sal,

    If I'm not out of place, let me ask where do you live? Or what area?

    I ask because I'm here in Florida and we have had rain several days a week for some months now. Some of those days have had pretty loud thunder storms with temporary outages.

    We may be the only state in the lower 48 that is not in a drought right now. I'm not complaining.

    Florida -> August -> Green grass. Pretty amazing!

    As far as planetary tilt goes, I believe the change in weather pattern is because of Pacific water temps. One of those ~Nina things.


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    Joe - the Southern Oscillation is way off - possibly because the gulf is no longer flowing correctly. It's sludge deep under and has stopped that current way to efficiently for our own good.

    I'm in Central Oregon. Just west and south of me are alpine pine forests. To the north and east is desert. This place usually gets a little snow that melts fairly early in the season, and a little rain in the spring and fall. Winter was almost barren of snow this year until the usual months for it to be melting - and it rained for so long that we thought it would never end. I thought I went to sleep in Redmond and woke up in Portland or Seattle. It has really come down a few times in the last few weeks again. Love watching the lightning - And the forests don't burn when they are moist - but really - this is not normal weather out here at all. We should be in the 100s and we got one day of 90 and a couple of 80s and mostly it's been in the 70s which is NOT normal for high desert.
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    Here in the midwest, we are getting storms like that as well! My lawn never looked better!

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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      Here in the midwest, we are getting storms like that as well! My lawn never looked better!

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      Nebraska on South is supposed to be the dry region. My father is in Michigan and he said the weather isn't that strange that way - summer storms, maybe a little cooler than past years. The croplands seem to be desertificating, though. I haven't heard word one about reforesting, but I think they better get around to it real fast.
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      • Profile picture of the author KEKilpatrick
        Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

        Sal,

        Florida -> August -> Green grass. Pretty amazing!

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        Hey Joe, isn't is supposed to be fire season down there?? I lived outside of Tampa for about 5 years and it always seemed like everything was on fire between the bay and Orlando about this time of year.

        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        Nebraska on South is supposed to be the dry region. My father is in Michigan and he said the weather isn't that strange that way - summer storms, maybe a little cooler than past years. The croplands seem to be desertificating, though. I haven't heard word one about reforesting, but I think they better get around to it real fast.
        My family lives in Southern Iowa, dry as powder down there. We've had a rain off and on for the past couple of weeks up here in Northern PA but Western NY has been more than dry. Hope this doesn't mean we're in for a bad winter. We need the snowfall but it can be a PITA too.

        Glad you have power again HeySal

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        • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
          KE,

          I live outside of Tampa, Zephyrhills.

          The weather reminds me of growing up in Florida. Afternoon rain and thunderstorms several days a week but sparse enough to hit the pool or the beach.

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          Originally Posted by KEKilpatrick View Post

          Hey Joe, isn't is supposed to be fire season down there?? I lived outside of Tampa for about 5 years and it always seemed like everything was on fire between the bay and Orlando about this time of year.
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          • Profile picture of the author KEKilpatrick
            I know Zephyrhills, had some friends that lived there years back... I lived in Valrico and Seffner for most of the time I was there. Sure miss the winters, used to love calling my family in Iowa from the beach, especially on Christmas day .

            Hard to believe it's been almost 11 years since I lived there. What I wouldn't give for a grilled Cuban and a Corona.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        Nebraska on South is supposed to be the dry region. My father is in Michigan and he said the weather isn't that strange that way - summer storms, maybe a little cooler than past years. The croplands seem to be desertificating, though. I haven't heard word one about reforesting, but I think they better get around to it real fast.
        Hmmm, Sal.

        In Michigan we are on target to have the hottest summer ever on record.

        Also, in June we were in drought where all the grass was dead, yellow and picky. I even got a couple of grass slivers believe it or not.

        Then after we had endless thunderstorms move through in late June, we caught up to average rainfall levels and have been on target since.

        Now in August, when the grass is usually dried up and dead, it's lush and green. To me that's a little strange.

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          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          Hmmm, Sal.

          In Michigan we are on target to have the hottest summer ever on record.

          Also, in June we were in drought where all the grass was dead, yellow and picky. I even got a couple of grass slivers believe it or not.

          Then after we had endless thunderstorms move through in late June, we caught up to average rainfall levels and have been on target since.

          Now in August, when the grass is usually dried up and dead, it's lush and green. To me that's a little strange.

          Terra
          Gee - that sounds like it's always been to me Terra. I remember feeling like I was in a sauna for days on end this time of year. Hot, muggy.

          Oh and I shouldn't have said we've had few fires this year - I know the universe loves to make me look stupid..........but we've got another fire burning North of me today.
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        • Profile picture of the author Geordie John
          I'm not sure where in Michigan you are Terra, but over here near Lansing we've had only a handful of days with rain all summer long! Our grass has been dead and brown since June lol


          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          Hmmm, Sal.

          In Michigan we are on target to have the hottest summer ever on record.

          Also, in June we were in drought where all the grass was dead, yellow and picky. I even got a couple of grass slivers believe it or not.

          Then after we had endless thunderstorms move through in late June, we caught up to average rainfall levels and have been on target since.

          Now in August, when the grass is usually dried up and dead, it's lush and green. To me that's a little strange.

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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by Geordie John View Post

            I'm not sure where in Michigan you are Terra, but over here near Lansing we've had only a handful of days with rain all summer long! Our grass has been dead and brown since June lol
            Yeah, that's weird too. Some places are still in drought and others got pounded with rain. It's all in patches when you travel throughout the state.

            Oh, I live in Lake Orion, by the way.

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            • Profile picture of the author HeySal
              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

              Oh, I live in Lake Orion, by the way.

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              Okay - just for those that never heard of it (most of you) - Terra lives in the TOWN of Lake Orion. She does not actually live in the water.

              Sorry Terra - I thought we should clear that one up from the get.
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              • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                Okay - just for those that never heard of it (most of you) - Terra lives in the TOWN of Lake Orion. She does not actually live in the water.

                Sorry Terra - I thought we should clear that one up from the get.
                Haha, Sal!

                Aww, did ya have to tell?

                I was thinking someone might think that I was living proof that mermaids do indeed exist!

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            • Profile picture of the author Geordie John
              It's raining a little here today, but we've been pretty much bone dry all summer long.

              I had to Google Lake Orion, i've never heard of it before (i'm not actually from Michigan).

              Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

              Yeah, that's weird too. Some places are still in drought and others got pounded with rain. It's all in patches when you travel throughout the state.

              Oh, I live in Lake Orion, by the way.

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              • Profile picture of the author sylviad
                Hi Sal,

                Well, I always thought Oregon was a wet, rainy state. It was when we camped there back in '91. Rain everywhere, from eastern Ontario to New Orleans (entire east coast) and again all up the west coast. Texas and Arizona were dry and beautiful.

                We haven't had much rain this year, but lots of heat here in Ontario since June. I cut my lawn once right after spring, I guess it was. Since then it's turned brown with a few tufts of green which I think were probably weeds.

                Three days ago, we had a day of rain, thunderstorms, and suddenly I have green, long grass. "Drat!" and I was hoping I would get off not cutting my lawn this year. Oh well. At least buying my $600 lawn mower last year (long story) to cut my 35' by 55' lawn won't totally go to waste. I could do it with my whipper snipper!

                As far as the weather and shifting planet, you might recall that some years something happened that moved earth off its axis by a fraction of a degree. I think it was the massive earthquake and tsunami in Indonesia. Perhaps that's to blame.

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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      BTW,

      My grass is looking BETTER. LOTS of storms!

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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
    Texas had the worst drought in over 50 years last summer. Send the rain this way.
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    • Profile picture of the author vigossqi
      Midwest? OMG, my grandfather is there! I think i should call him for his safe
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  • Profile picture of the author waterotter
    We have extreme drought conditions here right now. We had a few thunderstorms over the weekend with lots of rain, thunder and lightening but, it was enough to do anything. I was so grateful it rained first before seeing the lightening. One third of Algonquin Park has been closed due to fires caused by dry lightening strikes - that's only 20 minutes from my place.

    My lawn is brown and so dry it's crunchy, enough so that Reilly is coming in with cuts in her paws.

    My well is dangerously low. Glad I don't have company right now, but I did ask 5 people if we could change plans because of the situation.

    We've had a total fire ban on for quite some time. I actually called 911 last evening as some a$$ was setting of fireworks. They think just because we are on a lake, it's ok to do so - they don't think about the 100 year old tall pines that are everywhere, and you can't explain that to them. They figure they've rented a cottage for holidays so, they are entitled to do as they please. They took off today - they didn't like the fine they received! :p
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  • Profile picture of the author waterotter
    KE,

    My family lives in Southern Iowa, dry as powder down there. We've had a rain off and on for the past couple of weeks up here in Northern PA but Western NY has been more than dry. Hope this doesn't mean we're in for a bad winter. We need the snowfall but it can be a PITA too.
    You mention "dry as powder". This is exactly how locals here are describing our current conditions.

    As for snow, some of the elders relay on the old wives tale that the height of a bee's nest is an indication of how much snow we will get. The bee hives/nests are the lowest I've ever seen them - between 4-6 feet of the ground.

    Will have to wait and see, I guess.
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    • Profile picture of the author KEKilpatrick
      Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

      KE,



      You mention "dry as powder". This is exactly how locals here are describing our current conditions.

      As for snow, some of the elders relay on the old wives tale that the height of a bee's nest is an indication of how much snow we will get. The bee hives/nests are the lowest I've ever seen them - between 4-6 feet of the ground.

      Will have to wait and see, I guess.

      Well here's to hoping that you get rain, snow and no bee stings
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      • Profile picture of the author waterotter
        Originally Posted by KEKilpatrick View Post

        Well here's to hoping that you get rain, snow and no bee stings
        Thanks KE, here's to hoping everyone that needs it gets it. Farmers are suffering here and state side. Everyone will pay for this drought, it's just a matter of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    We had a fire out here a few weeks back - lightning with no rain accompanying it - but that was SE in Christmas Valley which is desert so you expect a few of those during the summer. Actually - we have been wet enough to not get a usual amount of fires so far. Desert fires spread very far but the shrubs grow back fast and there are few trees to lose to cause long-term damage. When I lived in SW Idaho we were on evac alert several times in a summer.
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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      We've had about 8-9 days of on and off thunderstorms, lightning and some flooding in the last two weeks or so. We are finally hitting a patch of some drier weather. I live very close by to a lot of forest and even in in years when there has been really hot, 90 or 100+ dry weather, it's fortunate there has not been any fires that I can ever remember.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Hello Weird Weather Dept:

    I am in a Skype Group Chat and somebody just posted that it is snowing in Johannesburg, South Africa - "very rare"

    Something has definitely shifted.

    I have nothing to report from here where we have no seasons - no summer yet - a few warm days, mostly breezy keeping it civilized. Summer is coming on now and I hope it is short on sweat. (play on short and sweet)

    My sympathies and prayers go to both the drought people and the stormed people.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joel Young
    I'm in the northern part of Nova Scotia, Canada. Historically our seasons aren't much different than upstate NY because of the Gulf Stream (just a bit more snow and a little colder in the Winter). But this past Winter was warmer and much less snow, and Summer has been sweltering! Very unusual for this location.
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    • Profile picture of the author KEKilpatrick
      The weather just hasn't been right for awhile. We live close enough to Erie and Buffalo that we get lake effect snow, not to the extent that they do but we do get a good amount of it. Normally in February we have 3 feet or so of snow on the ground and can count on getting snow just about every day. On top of that the temp is usually in the lower single digits during the day and well below 0 at night.

      This last February we were priming the outside of our house in short sleeve shirts... this just ain't right and it seems like, while our weather is a little bit closer to normal for us now, everybody else's is screwed up.

      Call it global warming or the earth's natural climate change that happens all the time, either way it's weird.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Glad to hear things are getting back to normal for you Sal.

        You know, frame of reference is an amazing thing. When I saw the title of this
        thread, two things came to mind that had nothing to do with what you're talking
        about.

        1. The X-Men character Storm. Now that is one bad-ass gal

        2. A type of Magic the Gathering deck called storm. In short, you play a whole
        bunch of spells during your turn and then play one of several cards that are
        called storm spells where that spell gets copied for every spell played before it
        that turn. So if you play 10 spells that turn, you copy it 10 times. It's one of
        the most busted mechanics in the game and a lot of fun, unless you're on the
        receiving end of one.

        And just now a third thing came to mind...the old soap opera "Secret Storm".

        Yeah...frame of reference is an amazing thing.

        Anyway, glad you got your power back. That really sucks when that happens.
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        • Profile picture of the author Geordie John
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          2. A type of Magic the Gathering deck called storm. In short, you play a whole
          bunch of spells during your turn and then play one of several cards that are
          called storm spells where that spell gets copied for every spell played before it
          that turn. So if you play 10 spells that turn, you copy it 10 times. It's one of
          the most busted mechanics in the game and a lot of fun, unless you're on the
          receiving end of one.
          Wow, that's a throwback for me, i played MtG not long after it first came out, and through the first 5 or 6 expansions... i haven't touched a deck in probably 10 years...
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    Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

    Electric is back after a short time out. Got some wicked lightning and another pretty heavy rain. <snip>
    We had some of that in Vancouver last night, but the lite version.

    It was a great opportunity to teach my toddler about lighting and thunder. Here's what I taught him, "Science has not ever explained where lightning comes from. Some far out theories assert that it comes from outerspace." He didn't understand a thing I was talking about and neither did I.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    That gulf spill did more to change the climate than anything else we've ever done. The water at the bottom is sludgy now and it's not circulating correctly. Actually - the damage done there and that they want us to think is is thing of the past is still an extreme danger to us all. If they do not get in there and start cleanup of that gulf water in ernest - no matter what they have to do to it, that spill might be responsible for a catastrophe from hell. If we had a REAL government instead of a pack of corporate psychopaths we could maybe talk about this problem openly and find the best methods to get that sludge off the bottom of the gulf and get that water circulating again.
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    Got to love a good storm
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    Hey Sylvia - good to hear from ya again.

    Actually Oregon can be split at the Cascades into two climates. West of the Cascades is rain forest - and it rains forever there. East of the Cascades is high desert. Sage and Juniper, etc. I live EAST where it is usually dangerously dry in the summer months.

    The earth tilt changes regularly. Just more or less snow in the North in a winter can change it a degree or two. I'm presuming the geographical north is also starting to shift now because of the magnetic pole shift. We had a series of large quakes at 10 and 35 km deep for a couple of years that indicated the land was shifting. It always will a bit during a magnetic pole shift because matter will start to align with the magnetic pole. The geographic pole will then adjust to the magnetic pole position as centrifugal force realigns everything.

    Like I said though - it seems that climate is changing places. Dry areas becoming wet - wet areas becoming dry. We've cleared so much land on this planet that we have it all screwed up.
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post


      Like I said though - it seems that climate is changing places. Dry areas becoming wet - wet areas becoming dry. We've cleared so much land on this planet that we have it all screwed up.
      I agree. They aren't going to stop clearing the land anytime soon... unfortunately. So much for wildlife and nature.

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  • I read it's raining in the Philippines everyday for the past week without a storm.
    Places are flooded and people are dead or missing.
    Some just sit on their rooftops waiting to be rescued.
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    Jeez - if they have a flood that bad, they don't NEED a storm. I hope all of our Philippino Warriors are safe.
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