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Is the war on terror a complete hoax? Paul Craig Roberts reveals how social engineers infected America with mass paranoia
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I will never understand why people visit that particular site and admit they read such crap there.

    I'm sure others will come in and agree that everything to do with a terrorist attack was an inside plot - but the paranoia on that site is way over the top.
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    • Profile picture of the author GrantFreeman
      ? You'll never understand why people think differently than you do? Do you mean that anyone who even considers questioning a story from our illustrious and perfect Gov is reading crap?

      Surely you wouldn't think that.

      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I will never understand why people visit that particular site and admit they read such crap there.

      I'm sure others will come in and agree that everything to do with a terrorist attack was an inside plot - but the paranoia on that site is way over the top.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    I thought this was going to be a thread about the evil that is TerraK. Now I'm completely disappointed.
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      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

      I thought this was going to be a thread about the evil that is TerraK. Now I'm completely disappointed.
      Me too! :p

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  • I must admit - I thought it was going to be about Terrak too! :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Typical headlines from that site show the tendency to sensationalize by ignoring facts and moving into conspiracy about everything:


      *Zombified government workers and regulation enforcers use these 'obedience phrases' to demand your compliance

      *Columbine shooting victim Mark Taylor being forcefully drugged and held under psychiatric detention

      *Annual Report: Big Pharma caused an estimated 2-4 million drug-induced serious injuries in 2011

      *95 percent of American parents sacrifice their young children to the vaccine industry

      *Bill Gates Wants Depopulation Through Vaccines and Health Care


      What's really funny is that a handful of bloggers routinely pass this stuff on as "fact" and source it back to naturalnews. This site takes a snippet of real news - spins it into a conspiracy - and publishes the result as fact.

      You can believe every bit of that - as long as you don't dig into some research to find the truth behind the headline.
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      • Profile picture of the author GrantFreeman
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Typical headlines from that site show the tendency to sensationalize by ignoring facts and moving into conspiracy about everything:


        *Zombified government workers and regulation enforcers use these 'obedience phrases' to demand your compliance

        *Columbine shooting victim Mark Taylor being forcefully drugged and held under psychiatric detention

        *Annual Report: Big Pharma caused an estimated 2-4 million drug-induced serious injuries in 2011

        *95 percent of American parents sacrifice their young children to the vaccine industry

        *Bill Gates Wants Depopulation Through Vaccines and Health Care


        What's really funny is that a handful of bloggers routinely pass this stuff on as "fact" and source it back to naturalnews. This site takes a snippet of real news - spins it into a conspiracy - and publishes the result as fact.

        You can believe every bit of that - as long as you don't dig into some research to find the truth behind the headline.
        What I find interesting, is that those headlines are marketing techniques that work to get peoples attention.. nothing new about that, and for the most part they still work.

        I also find that the content behind the articles hold a lot of water. The only difference I've found so far is that, in my opinion, the scare tactic is there to point the reader to believing a certain side. The two sides being either Illuminate, or Zionist.

        I know diddle about either one, and choose to form my own opinion. If you're suggesting that you're smarter or better than any of us that read them.. well.. that's your opinion too
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Of course it's marketing - at the lowest level of truth. Pick a viewpoint that is "against" and turn it into a conspiracy. To me, that's scum marketing.

          I'm not smarter than, not dumber than, but not as gullible as some.

          My cousin's husband was the teacher who died at Columbine. My son is a federal agent and no one's "yes man". I resent a blog that uses such topics just to get attention with lies and attract people ready to believe the worst of anything or anyone. For some, there will never be enough evidence of anything that might be true and blogs like this one prey on those people by offering "proof" paranoia is reality.

          Of course there are conspiracies - one has only to listen to multiple people on TV mouth the same talking point of the day to know that.
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  • Profile picture of the author GrantFreeman
    Lol. Sorry to disappoint. And certainly no disrespect to TerraK. I've respected her since she arrived here.

    I keep hearing the voice of Bush J.R. in my head trying to pronunce the word 'terror'.. always comes out 'terra'.

    I don't know how credible that site is. Most have some kind of agenda, but not researching something for the sake of finding the truth, to me, is irresponsible and a little loony.

    The Wizard of OZ would rather you NOT believe there's someone behind the curtain..

    Grant
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      I didn't go to the site, so I can't comment on the article.
      But we actually started the war around 59 years ago.
      It was at that time that Ike and the relatively new CIA covertly started the revolution in Iran that put the Shah in power.
      Since then we have been interfering in the affairs of the Middle East on a regular basis. Who helped Hussian gain control of Iraq? We did. Who armed the Taliban and helped them fight the Russians when they invaded Afghanistan? We did. Who prompted the Kurds to revolt against Hussian when he couldn't defeat Iran? We did.
      Who gives Israel's self proclaimed enemies 8 billion dollars in aide every year? We do.
      Ever wonder why the so called terrorist really hate us? There's your answer.
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      • Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        I didn't go to the site, so I can't comment on the article.
        But we actually started the war around 59 years ago.
        It was at that time that Ike and the relatively new CIA covertly started the revolution in Iran that put the Shah in power.
        Since then we have been interfering in the affairs of the Middle East on a regular basis. Who helped Hussian gain control of Iraq? We did. Who armed the Taliban and helped them fight the Russians when they invaded Afghanistan? We did. Who prompted the Kurds to revolt against Hussian when he couldn't defeat Iran? We did.
        Who gives Israel's self proclaimed enemies 8 billion dollars in aide every year? We do.
        Ever wonder why the so called terrorist really hate us? There's your answer.
        Hey...we 'Grandfathered' them - you're supposed to respect your grandfather! :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    Don't worry, Grant. Terror can sound like Terra.

    And...the FBI just raided Terra's town sub shop, so they're getting closer to ending her reign of...terra.
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    • Profile picture of the author GrantFreeman
      Based on the history of events in the past, and the FACT that with all our gov's efforts (that we pay for through tax), they still haven't given the people PROOF that, yes.. we finally caught a terrorist.

      Yet, with all this diligent work, the majority of people are scared to talk to people they don't know..

      we're forced to submit to letting people with bad attitudes & plastic badges swab or drinks for explosives at the airport..

      and be suspicious of those that are a little different than us. Have we become stronger or weaker? Smarter or dumber? More afraid or more courageous?

      I'm more inclined to look deeper into a little hype that might impact my life, than believe in some invisible boogyman our 'best' organizations can never seem to find.

      I'm not afraid of the boogyman. I'm not afraid of our gov. I'm more afraid of the people out there who have been conditioned to never put any effort into finding out the truth (I know it's very hard to do), or question authority.

      If we ignored the hype or passed over extreme headlines the WSO section would no longer exist.

      If we FULLY follow the advice of ignorant people 100%, what does that say about ourselves? To not even try just because we don't like something or someone?

      What's that say about you?

      Grant


      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

      Don't worry, Grant. Terror can sound like Terra.

      And...the FBI just raided Terra's town sub shop, so they're getting closer to ending her reign of...terra.
      I had the hummus, but didn't drink the coo-laid

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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

      Don't worry, Grant. Terror can sound like Terra.

      And...the FBI just raided Terra's town sub shop, so they're getting closer to ending her reign of...terra.
      Hmmph! I will always reign as Terra! :p

      I am the Terra-izer after all.

      Oh and before you start saying TerraBull stuff in reference to that, many of my clients still contact me asking me if I will Terra-ize an article for them when they need a re-write, thus the nickname.

      Okay, carry on...

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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    This is funny -

    Our Terra is so sweet that I have always thought of her as a southern belle (without the plastic) - well that and her pink cowboy hat -

    I was just going to comment on that last night in Terra's thread on a possible Terraist realizing she is in Michigan not Texass.

    Now Grant and JR - "I keep hearing the voice of Bush J.R. in my head trying to pronunce the word 'terror'.. always comes out 'terra'."

    So much for DAYJER VOOO -

    The Wizard really did it. He is really there behind the curtain and his name is Shadow.

    The thing is there really is no curtain - it is just smoke and mirrors.

    and 'where there is smoke there is fire'.

    I think anybody that doesn't at least consider that 'Mom and Apple Pie' are long gone needs a wake up call.

    There is Terra everywhere -

    Right in Mom's back yard -
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    • Profile picture of the author GrantFreeman
      Originally Posted by Patrician View Post

      This is funny -

      ..Now Grant and JR - "I keep hearing the voice of Bush J.R. in my head trying to pronunce the word 'terror'.. always comes out 'terra'."

      So much for DAYJER VOOO -
      One just hazta visit the WF to discover how fun words can be

      Originally Posted by Patrician View Post


      I think anybody that doesn't at least consider that 'Mom and Apple Pie' are long gone needs a wake up call.

      There is Terra everywhere -

      Right in Mom's back yard -
      Right terra, you made me crave food. Damn terrarist, you

      Grant
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  • Profile picture of the author Doran Peck
    I think most of us realize that there are "agendas" afoot...that have nothing to do with benefiting the citizenry.

    ...and I like to think that for the most part...the difference between a conspiracy theorist and a regular joe...is that the conspiracy theorist might be well steeped in things like...what congress is doing on a daily basis...the executive orders signed by the president...understanding the money trail and who controls what in the world.

    The regular Joe...can tell you all about the latest from Kim Kardashian, the price of gas is too high, and what was played on the recent version of the nightly news.

    The thing I dislike about the outspoken theorists...is that they themselves embelish in too much sensationalism when trying to get you to understand the possible relationship between soemthing. I think they would gain alot more credibility from regular Joe, if they would cut that out.

    An example of this might be...when Alex Jones talks about the TSA groping small children, and the similarities to a police state...he keeps refering to all TSA people as "pedophiles" ...to me that just diminishes the meat of what he's trying to say overall.

    They need to take a more objective approach and leave the personal emotion and sensationalism out of it.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Doran your post reminded me of a discussion I had here last year about calling people sheeple. I understand what the word means and I agree that the majority of people are sheeples. But my point (then and now) is you are not going to convince someone to agree with you or even investigate what you are saying if you insist on calling them derogatory names.
      At that time it was someone from another country basically saying "Why do you sheeple in America allow your government to do _____(fill in the blank)."
      That immediately puts the people you are trying to reach on the defensive and ends any type of positive discussion before it begins.
      Alex Jones uses that term a lot and is one of the reasons I don't listen to much of what he has to say.
      All it does is get people who already agree with you, to agree with you.
      Those aren't the people you are trying to win over to your side. It's the people you are insulting that you should be trying to win over and insulting them isn't the way to do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    PAT -- NOOOOOOOOOOO! Never compare a Yankee with attitude to a Southern Bell. Not. No. Nadda.

    Actually, the gov plays on people's fears all the time. They have also been responsible for many false flags and actual murders for their own benefit. How do you think we got to where we are now? There is REAL fascism going on and you don't need concentration camps to have fascism. The corporatization of a government, along with a lack of rule of law is what that word means. We have both. How did we get that way? Voters who refuse to educate themselves before voting - people who believe anything media says - people who refuse to get rid of leaders when they do things that are illegal. If you check your history, you will see that many conspiracy theories have been proved true later down the road.

    Those that do not believe ANYTHING can be a conspiracy despite mounds and mounds of evidence or that rich people will commit crimes, including mass murder, to keep or gain more money or control are not thinking critically at all. Those that see EVERYTHING as a conspiracy are operating mirror image to this.


    Many of the things Kay listed from a site have actually happened. A few are bunk. Do you know which is which? The idea that a message is false just because it is on a conspiracy site is just as clueless as thinking something is true just because it's on an authority site.
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    • Profile picture of the author GrantFreeman
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Many of the things Kay listed from a site have actually happened. A few are bunk. Do you know which is which?

      The idea that a message is false just because it is on a conspiracy site is just as clueless as thinking something is true just because it's on an authority site.
      Very well said.

      Often times there are articles that include both true and false info, yet contain very valuable information.. and in this day and age- lifesaving info that impacts or lives one way or another.

      As good marketers, doesn't it make sense to look deeper into things before we pass-off the whole thing as bullshit? Not only could there be money to be made, but you just might learn something that helps you be more aware of the madness.

      added: [And as good people, I think it's getting harder NOT to get emotional about the decisions the morons in power are making that effect our lives when we read those stories. The marketers who write them know what our hot buttons are, and are pushing them with great success.

      That's a great video, Sal. It's only got 130 views, but I think it should have millions. Thanks for sharing it.]

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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Govt and media and bloggers - all play on people's fears and anxieties. They all have their reasons ...money or power - or positioning.

        Many of the things Kay listed from a site have actually happened. A few are bunk. Do you know which is which?
        Those topics are news stories - but not a single one of them on that site presents anything except the facts that can be twisted to suit a certain agenda. Any facts to the contrary are conveniently ignored. They are all bunk because they cherry-pick facts and use only the ones that suit their pre-conceived agenda.

        It's fine to present the facts and draw a conclusion - not so good to list only the facts that suit your purpose and ignore any part of a story that doesn't fit your theory.

        I have a feeling the other dozens or so blogs that routinely reprint the "facts" from this one big blog are probably part of a network meant to do exactly that.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Um,.........not sure how I posted it twice - fixed that. I think those alien lizards that have infiltrated the government invaded my brain for a minute or two and made me glitch. I wish they would stop doing that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    To the best of my recollection I've never seen that site before. I didn't read any other articles on the site, only the article linked in the first post. So, what I'm about to say is based only the content of the linked article and nothing else ... there are several good points made in the article. To dismiss it out of hand because it's on a so-called conspiracy site seems as extreme as thinking everything is a conspiracy.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    To insist that something is bull shit just because every little fact isn't listed is a perfect form of denial, too. It's impossible to spoon feed every drop of info to a viewer in a limited article -especially when thorough discussion would take a book. Certain points are presented in an article and if the viewer wants more information, they need to understand it's their responsibility to investigate the issues further. Anyone who writes articles KNOWS they can only present so much information in any one article, so they get out the points that are most central to what the concept is they are attempting to convey. When someone insists that it is all crap because the entire issue isn't covered - that's just an excuse to ignore evidence.
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    Banned

    I stopped watching Disney videos for this?
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  • Profile picture of the author GrantFreeman
    Sounds like the one thing we all agree with, is just about anything we read that's considered newsworthy should be never taken as absolute. For more reasons that one.

    Whatever the unknown agenda, articles like this one are highly subjective to the lifestyle of the reader..

    If you happen to be a firm believer that nothing bad could ever happen in your town or community, then news that even suggests what you've believed up until that point was based on a series of lies, your entire world must be re-evaluated, questioned, and rediscovered to fill the void.

    For some of those people, it's too much emotion to handle all at once. For others, denial is a more fitting solution. But there's always that learning curve we all go through..

    Denial- Acceptance- Anger- Sadness- Knowledge

    At first, we don't or can't believe the news.
    Then there's a point where we accept it.
    Then we either get pissed off, or sad
    When those emotions pass, we can learn how to fix it, or make changes.

    We often do our best work when we are happy, and we don't want anything invading those emotions.

    My sister for example. She's one of the nicest people you'd ever meet. But we rarely ever talk about current events because we have two extreme contrasting life experiences while we were growing up. She was always nurtured, an A student, rarely had problems making money, book smart, and avoided anything that dealt with hurting other peoples feelings. The church lady type.

    If she ever accepted that 9/11 was an inside job as a belief, I think it would bring her to tears, but it would be a good release for her emotionally. In other words, a healthy balance to adapt street smarts and confidence in that part of life.

    For others, articles like that keep people in the pissed-off stage for a while. They have already gone through most emotions, and can't fathom why people can't accept their truth. It's easy to look down at those people as being weak, when in reality, they are strong in NOT accepting new ideas because their guard is still up.

    I think the bottom line is, and without sounding to corny, we all care about each other in some way. We share a common ground as Warriors. We need to stick together in these times and do our best to be there for each other..

    No matter where you are in the cycle, or what you happen to believe about all this stuff going on.

    Grant
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