Why So Arrogant?

Dennis Gaskill

13 years ago

Your perception isn't their reality.

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Michael Ten

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Your perception isn't their reality.

That can be true. Also, I've been around wealthy individuals who are fairly callous and I think that it could be equated with arrogance. So, what you state is sometimes true, but also sometimes not, I think.

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Dennis Gaskill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Michael Ten

That can be true. Also, I've been around wealthy individuals who are fairly callous and I think that it could be equated with arrogance. So, what you state is sometimes true, but also sometimes not, I think.

Michael, our perception of reality is influenced by our emotions, beliefs, mental programming, experiences, biases, physical health, and many other filters.

Each one of us has our own unique filters. We cannot know another person's reality unless they tell us, because we cannot clothe ourselves in their filters. We can only interpret their reality ... through our own filters. There are about 7 billion different human "realities" on this planet.

So when I said to the OP, "your perception is not their reality" ...my perception of reality is that it's true all of the time. However, it seems many people are content to make guesses at someone else's reality and claim their guess as truth.

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Michael, our perception of reality is influenced by our emotions, beliefs, mental programming, experiences, biases, physical health, and many other filters.

Each one of us has our own unique filters. We cannot know another person's reality unless they tell us, because we cannot clothe ourselves in their filters. We can only interpret their reality ... through our own filters. There are about 7 billion different human "realities" on this planet.

So when I said to the OP, "your perception is not their reality" ...my perception of reality is that it's true all of the time. However, it seems many people are content to make guesses at someone else's reality and claim their guess as truth.

Thanks for the input Dennis. I will rephrase my question. Why is arrogance so prevalent in the world, especially among the more affluent?

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tagiscom

13 years ago

I would say that you're only partly correct. Those among the rich who actually made their fortune are probably less likely to be arrogant than the average person.

But then go look at their kids...

???? :confused:

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Dennis Gaskill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Blackman75

Thanks for the input Dennis. I will rephrase my question. Why is arrogance so prevalent in the world, especially among the more affluent?

It is your perception that arrogance is so prevalent, and moreso among the affluent.

I don't see arrogance as being prevalent. So who's perception is correct?

Both of us? Could be, because not only do we each have our own perception, but we're both looking at two different worlds. Even if we both accurately see and interpret reality, we do not see the same reality because we are not looking at (or for) the same things.

Sometimes we look, knowingly or unknowlingly, for a confirmation of our beliefs. If we believe the affluent are arrogant, we will notice things that confirm our beliefs.

Now think about this ... if you believe the affluent are arrogant, and if you don't want to be arrogant, then your subsconscious may well prevent you from attaining and keeping affluence in order to keep you aligned with your beliefs.

That's why we must choose our beliefs, and our words, carefully.

Having said that, arrogance is often a mask used to hide insecurity and self-doubt.

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thunderbird

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

It is your perception that arrogance is so prevalent, and moreso among the affluent.

I don't see arrogance as being prevalent. So who's perception is correct?

Both of us? Could be, <snip>

If you step into a magazine shop, one of you sees a magazine about heavy metal and the other sees a magazine about hunting and fishing. Which one of you was correct? Heck the same person can smile and frown within a span of minutes -- do you see a happy person or a sad person?

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Blackman75

13 years ago

I appreciate all views. I will just shut up now because I can see where this is going.

If I ask why iPhon's are so popular someone will pipe up and say that Galaxy's are just as popular.

Answer? I didn't ask about Galaxy's.

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Dennis Gaskill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

If you step into a magazine shop, one of you sees a magazine about heavy metal and the other sees a magazine about hunting and fishing. Which one of you was correct?

Both, we're experiencing two different realities. As I said before, there are about 7 billion different human realities on this planet. No two are the same. Who's to say one is more "right" than another? Is there an ultimate reality?

Heck the same person can smile and frown within a span of minutes -- do you see a happy person or a sad person?

Both, reality is not static. I see a happy person in one moment and a person frowning in another moment. It is, however, you that interprets the frown as sadness. Perhaps the person is only puzzled.

Originally Posted by Blackman75

I appreciate all views. I will just shut up now because I can see where this is going.

Aw...come on, don't mind me, I'm just having fun.

I was finished with that train of thought anyway. I intentionally added "arrogance is often a mask used to hide insecurity and self-doubt" at the end because I thought it was more in line with the kinds of replies you were looking for. So run with it. How do you feel about arrogance being a mask to hide insecurity and self-doubt? Does that notion have any merit?

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thunderbird 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

<snip>It is, however, you that interprets the frown as sadness. Perhaps the person is only puzzled.
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Or maybe an actor practicing a frown. Perhaps remembering that the oven is still on. Or trying to remember, "Which lie did I tell?"
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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Both, we're experiencing two different realities. As I said before, there are about 7 billion different human realities on this planet. No two are the same. Who's to say one is more "right" than another? Is there an ultimate reality?

Both, reality is not static. I see a happy person in one moment and a person frowning in another moment. It is, however, you that interprets the frown as sadness. Perhaps the person is only puzzled.

Aw...come on, don't mind me, I'm just having fun.

I was finished with that train of thought anyway. I intentionally added "arrogance is often a mask used to hide insecurity and self-doubt" at the end because I thought it was more in line with the kinds of replies you were looking for. So run with it. How do you feel about arrogance being a mask to hide insecurity and self-doubt? Does that notion have any merit?

Fully agree with that part. Anyone else?

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HeySal

13 years ago

If it makes you feel better - I'm not rich and I can be a real jerk, too.

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Originally Posted by HeySal

If it makes you feel better - I'm not rich and I can be a real jerk, too.

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Originally Posted by HeySal

If it makes you feel better - I'm not rich and I can be a real jerk, too.

ditto - we all have a dark side - but not many of us admit it.
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Kurt

13 years ago

In general, I've found the rich to be pretty nice. I'm guessing it's because they are not as stressed out as poor folks.

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tagiscom

13 years ago

Hmmmm, its easy to hate the rich, especially if you think that dumb luck got them there...

But look a little deeper and you can see that dumb luck or being in the right place at the right time goes hand in hand with learning, dogged persistence and hard work!!!

Their outward anger is showing them at a subconsciousness level that they don't have the guts to take those sort of risks, or to put in the hard work, for years on end, without much to show for it, before hitting the jackpot! And of course losing most of their friends, and having family members think that they are crazy, etc, etc, etc!

The rich deserve what they have, but they should let other open minded people know that anyone can potentially do what they did, or achieve wealth, some way!!!

Celebrates saying that they are lucky, are just making things worse for themselves!!!

But ones like Will Smith for example, make the world a better place by explaining how they or you could achieve success!

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Hopeless Bromantic

13 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Hmmmm, its easy to hate the rich, especially if you think that dumb luck got them there...

But look a little deeper and you can see that dumb luck or being in the right place at the right time goes hand in hand with learning, dogged persistence and hard work!!!

I would say that you're only partly correct. Those among the rich who actually made their fortune are probably less likely to be arrogant than the average person.

But then go look at their kids...

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Hopeless Bromantic

I would say that you're only partly correct. Those among the rich who actually made their fortune are probably less likely to be arrogant than the average person.

But then go look at their kids...

Yeah well I lump the kids in there together.

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13 years ago

The only thing I hated was that he tried to make it sound like he found something REALLY NEW/DIFFERENT/etc... And came out with something that was just the same old thing.

Basically, there were THREE ways you could have looked at this. Some people refuse to realize that, or at least refuse to acknowledge it, but there ARE three. And people like BARBRA MUST look at it only ONE way. The other two are either not news worthy, or not things they want to expose. So, they state the ONE idea.

But for her, to say what she said, claim she liked him, and that he was decent, and then say what she said, was BEYOND crass.

So Trump looked like an idiot because he is like that moron that is a woman forever HALF way between a "sex change", and she sometimes goes off the hormones to have another kid, and has a huge campaign "MAN gives birth to child". She is NOT a man, in any sense of the word. And it is like the videos that put words in a persons mouth and says "#$%^&* ADMITS @#$%^&*". etc....

And Barbra is like ALL the others that want to attach someone to a group and ridicule the group by ridiculing that person, and probably knows FULL well that there are lots of other ways of looking at it.

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seasoned

13 years ago

As for the rich being arrogant?

Heysal and Kurt are both right. Arrogance knows no class. SURE, there are arrogant people that get rich, and there are some that think they did EVERY blasted thing to get there, and believe they are the best on the planet. ALSO, the arrogant are probably more vocal and obvious, making them APPEAR to be in the majority. There are also PLENTY of poor people that are plenty arrogant. Of course, most of them aren't publicized. HECK, watch AMERICAN IDOL, or related shows, and you will see some of the LEAST capable, and some even stating they are POOR, that are VERY ARROGANT!

A RICH person would probably look at that more realistically, and have a friend do the record, or pay for one, so you would likely NEVER see them there starting out.

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Very true I have seen jerks in all walks of life but it just seems like those with more tend to gravitate towards that attitude a bit more than those with less. The most humble and kind people I have seen in life have been the poorest, incidentally in Mexico and Ukraine.

Well thanks for the input everyone, it was an interesting exchange between Barbara and Donald, that was for sure.

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thunderbird

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Blackman75

<snip>The most humble and kind people I have seen in life have been the poorest, incidentally in Mexico and Ukraine.<snip>

I had a similar experience when I was briefly staying with people in a shantytown in Chile. Some people manage to maintain a kind and positive attitude in the most difficult of circumstances. I still have a scar behind my ear from a rat chewing away at it when I was asleep.

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AprilCT

13 years ago

You can find arrogant people anywhere, in any social strata. Money and social status or lack thereof is not the determining factor whether someone is arrogant or not. It's the person who chooses to be a certain way.

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by AprilCT

You can find arrogant people anywhere, in any social strata. Money and social status or lack thereof is not the determining factor whether someone is arrogant or not. It's the person who chooses to be a certain way.

Ok let me set this straight. Absolutely NO WHERE did I state ONLY rich people were arrogant. I asked why so many were, another words why it seems a more common occurance among the rich. Even more so than among those that are famous but it is a close race.

In fact if you not I asked why are people, in general, but ESPECIALLY rich ones, so arrogant these days. Basically I am wondering that if someone is wrong or has been a jerk why can't they just say, "Sorry, I was wrong" or "Sorry, I was a jerk."

Originally Posted by Lloyd Buchinski

Of the billionaires I have known, money just brings out the basic traits in them. If they were jerks before they had money, they are simply jerks with a billion dollars. Warren Buffett

Now that actually makes sense! LOL

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thunderbird

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Blackman75

<snip>Absolutely NO WHERE did I state ONLY rich people were arrogant. I asked why so many were, another words why it seems a more common occurance among the rich. Even more so than among those that are famous but it is a close race.<snip>

Maybe the answer to your question lies in the fact that you even know they are rich. Someone flaunting their wealth is probably more likely to be arrogant (and probably insecure) than the many secretly-wealthy people out there.

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Maybe the answer to your question lies in the fact that you even know they are rich. Someone flaunting their wealth is probably more likely to be arrogant (and probably insecure) than the many secretly-wealthy people out there.

Makes a LOT of sense, nice response!

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doitright316

13 years ago

I think they have got big egos from making a lot of money, I can live with that to a certain extent if they have actually worked hard for it, it;s the ones that inherit a lot of money and act arogant that I don't like!

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Lloyd Buchinski

13 years ago

Of the billionaires I have known, money just brings out the basic traits in them. If they were jerks before they had money, they are simply jerks with a billion dollars. Warren Buffett

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seasoned

13 years ago

blackman75,

Unfortunately, if you say "Why are so many" #$%^& " so " #$%^&* people believe you are saying that most are. But tere are different ways people become rich. One group DOES act like they are more valuable or unique than they are, and publicizes it ALL OVER. Yet ANOTHER group inherits, and never gets ANY humility. BOTH tend to be VERY vocal!

Still, some figure it is no big deal, and you may be SHOCKED to find they make even over $30K a year! SOME figure they are LUCKY! SOME literally GIVE AWAY what could make them wealthy. etc...

I have known, and/or known OF, a fair amount of all of the above. MOST widely known ones ARE in the first two groups though.

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

blackman75,

Unfortunately, if you say "Why are so many" #$%^& " so " #$%^&* people believe you are saying that most are. But tere are different ways people become rich. One group DOES act like they are more valuable or unique than they are, and publicizes it ALL OVER. Yet ANOTHER group inherits, and never gets ANY humility. BOTH tend to be VERY vocal!

Still, some figure it is no big deal, and you may be SHOCKED to find they make even over $30K a year! SOME figure they are LUCKY! SOME literally GIVE AWAY what could make them wealthy. etc...

I have known, and/or known OF, a fair amount of all of the above. MOST widely known ones ARE in the first two groups though.

Steve

Also a nice response. Its sad that in a "forum" aka "discussion forum" people do not have a discussion. They hear but don't really listen, then post what they believe the question or topic was about.

I have made the same mistake so I can't condemn. However I do, usually, take a bit of time to think over my questions and pose them in a way that is very specific so there is no confusion. I am still working on forming my answers the same way. LOL

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muddywaters

13 years ago

I guess these people just don't know how to be humble... Or probably not have the reason to be one.

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HeySal

13 years ago

Actually Blackman (if that is your real name?) - I have to agree with you on this one. The wealthy are becoming arrogant - and that is the way this society is going right now. The severely rich [genreally] despise the poor. The poor [generally] hate the rich - and the middle ground is slipping. Um...in case you've noticed, the whole country is in upheaval right now. There is quite a bit of class warfare going on - but class is not the only faction at odds right now. In normal times, class isn't such a big deal in the USA.

Nobody is acting very normal at the present moment.

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seasoned

13 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Actually Blackman (if that is your real name?) - I have to agree with you on this one. The wealthy are becoming arrogant - and that is the way this society is going right now. The severely rich [genreally] despise the poor. The poor [generally] hate the rich - and the middle ground is slipping. Um...in case you've noticed, the whole country is in upheaval right now. There is quite a bit of class warfare going on - but class is not the only faction at odds right now. In normal times, class isn't such a big deal in the USA.

Nobody is acting very normal at the present moment.

Well, more and more inherit or scam in some way, and they ARE more likely to be arrogant. I think those that have some money(NOT necessarily rich!!!!!) generally just despise those that feel that they should be paid for doing NOTHING! Like the woman that hung around this government block in van nuys and begged me for money. She claimed she KNEW I had money because I was so well dressed. HECK, the law says that criminals should be dressed likewise to not influence the jury. I had NO money, and was dressed as I was to not stand out from the average businessman, like those criminals in a way. HEY, I was young and new at it.... Anyway, she even tried to lay a guilt trip on me.

You also have ones that will literally get in your way, etc... On a national level, it is taxes and "paying your fair share". So if there is ANY arrogance in such exchanges, it is from the POOR!!!!!

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Kay King 13 years ago

Real question is - why spend time worrying about other people?

The most negative thing in our society today in my opinion is the growing acceptance of the "I deserve" mentality. It's a false scenario created by certain movements to make you think "the rich" are arrogant or "the rich" owe you something.

Most of the resentment toward "the rich" has one basis - envy. Arrogance can be a by-product of personal achievement - envy is just an ugly little entitlement mentality.
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antony123

13 years ago

not every rich person is arrogant, it is just their time and destiny, destiny will not change but time will change

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PassivelyRich 13 years ago

Originally Posted by antony123

not every rich person is arrogant, it is just their time and destiny, destiny will not change but time will change

I agree. Right time, right place, in the right state of mind
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seasoned

13 years ago

Kay,

I am VERY sorry to do you SUCH a disservice, but I can only give one thanks! WELL SAID!

If the VERY VERY poor spent HALF the time trying to get ahead that they spend bad mouthing the non poor(And DON'T misunderstand, it is NOT the rich, but those not poor by THEIR standard), then they would likely do well. AND, with less tax and crime, each dollar would be worth even MORE!

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13 years ago

Maybe what you see as arrogance - is actually the confidence that got them there in the first place.

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Hopeless Bromantic 13 years ago

It's surprising that no one has mentioned this yet, but: there is a strong correlation between arrogance and greed.
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Dennis Gaskill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by garyv

Maybe what you see as arrogance - is actually the confidence that got them there in the first place.

Which brings us back to perception vs reality.

Originally Posted by Hopeless Bromantic

It's surprising that no one has mentioned this yet, but: there is a strong correlation between arrogance and greed.

Please explain. I don't see that connection any stronger with the affluent than with any other social class. Most of the arrogant people I've known were not the affluent, but people with psychological wounds that made them feel inferior. Their arrogance was a mask to hide their feelings of inferiority. Most of the rich people I've known were "normal" in most senses of the word. Their most "abnormal" trait being their wealth. I used to be neighbors with the one of the richest people in Wisconsin. When he'd stop by to chat it was like chatting with people from my own social stratum. If you observed one of our chats you'd never know by the conversation that he had hundreds of millions of dollars and I, by comparison, was a pauper.

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Hopeless Bromantic

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Please explain. I don't see that connection any stronger with the affluent than with any other social class. Most of the arrogant people I've known were not the affluent, but people with psychological wounds that made them feel inferior. Their arrogance was a mask to hide their feelings of inferiority.

You appear to be confused. Many greedy people are not affluent, and many affluent people are not greedy.

Greed itself is arguably a defense mechanism to hide feelings of not having enough -- whatever any given person's idea of "enough" is...

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Dennis Gaskill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Hopeless Bromantic

You appear to be confused. Many greedy people are not affluent, and many affluent people are not greedy.

Greed itself is arguably a defense mechanism to hide feelings of not having enough -- whatever any given person's idea of "enough" is...

Ha ha, good one. I'm not confused. You said, "It's surprising that no one has mentioned this yet, but: there is a strong correlation between arrogance and greed."

I asked you to explain what you meant because arrogance was associated with affluence all through the thread. I don't see a connection between greed and affluence in any greater proportion than with any other socio-economic group.

Apparently you weren't only speaking of the affluent, which is what I was wondering.

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Hopeless Bromantic

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

I asked you to explain what you meant because arrogance was associated with affluence all through the thread. I don't see a connection between greed and affluence in any greater proportion than with any other socio-economic group.

There may not be much of a correlation between greed and affluence: I have to admit that I don't have any data on the issue. However, I still suspect that there's at least some correlation between greed and arrogance. And yes, that's just my opinion.

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travlinguy

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Hopeless Bromantic

There may not be much of a correlation between greed and affluence: I have to admit that I don't have any data on the issue. However, I still suspect that there's at least some correlation between greed and arrogance. And yes, that's just my opinion.

Sure and there's a correlation between arrogance and:

Entitlement
Stupidity
Envy
Jealousy
Hatred
Resentment
Pride
Laziness
Narcissism
Vanity
The list could get really long, yes?

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Hopeless Bromantic

13 years ago

Originally Posted by travlinguy

Sure and there's a correlation between arrogance and:

Entitlement
Stupidity
Envy
Jealousy
Hatred
Resentment
Pride
Laziness
Narcissism
Vanity
The list could get really long, yes?

From the standpoint of the OP question, what's more important than the length of the list is whether any of these things cause arrogance or amplify it.

By the way, are you claiming that they do or they don't?

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travlinguy

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Hopeless Bromantic

From the standpoint of the OP question, what's more important than the length of the list is whether any of these things cause arrogance or amplify it.

By the way, are you claiming that they do or they don't?

Why do people act so arrogantly these days?

I think the original premise is pretty vague. People? I know there were a couple of people actually named in the OP. That seems to have been edited. I'd also guess that one of the people mentioned was considered to be arrogant over something politically motivated. This whole thread is pretty silly, actually.

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travlinguy

13 years ago

I saw an interesting thing a couple of week ago. I'll have to paraphrase cause I don't have the exact quote.

Why is it greedy to want to keep what you earn, but not greedy to want what others earn?

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by travlinguy

I saw an interesting thing a couple of week ago. I'll have to paraphrase cause I don't have the exact quote.

Why is it greedy to want to keep what you earn, but not greedy to want what others earn?

Isn't it the other way around?

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MissTerraK

13 years ago

It's quite amusing to me that you (the OP) equate arrogance with the rich.

Another word for arrogant is big-headed, another yet is egotistical. Personally, I find more big-headed and egotistical people in the middle class, to tell you the truth.

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

It's quite amusing to me that you (the OP) equate arrogance with the rich.

Another word for arrogant is big-headed, another yet is egotistical. Personally, I find more big-headed and egotistical people in the middle class, to tell you the truth.

Terra

No, no, no. That is not what I said.

Originally Posted by Blackman75

Why do people, especially rich ones, act so arrogantly?

My comment included all classes but it seems more prevalent with rich people. So I did not equate being rich with being arrogant or another words say that all rich people were arrogant. I know some rich people that are quite the opposite.

I believe in a later post also I changed the question to why is arrogance so prevalent. Why can't people just apologize or say they have been a jerk when they have done something wrong?

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MissTerraK

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Blackman75

Why can't people just apologize or say they have been a jerk when they have done something wrong?

Oh, I can answer that for you. Because they're arrogant. :p

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Oh, I can answer that for you. Because they're arrogant. :p

Terra

ROFLMAO. Well that simplifies it. LOL :p

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Dennis Gaskill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Blackman75

Why can't people just apologize or say they have been a jerk when they have done something wrong?

Maybe they don't believe they've been a jerk or convinced they've done anything wrong.

Someone once blasted me on this forum for not admitting I was wrong. I hadn't been convinced I was wrong, so why would I admit it?

I was later proven right, by the way. Our perceptions can be extremely deceptive.

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Maybe they don't believe they've been a jerk or convinced they've done anything wrong.

Someone once blasted me on this forum for not admitting I was wrong. I hadn't been convinced I was wrong, so why would I admit it?

I was later proven right, by the way. Our perceptions can be extremely deceptive.

Well I mean with something where it's not simply a matter of perception. Where there is actual physical proof of some sort that they are wrong.

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PassivelyRich

13 years ago

I'm not so sure the correlation is close between being rich and being a jerk, maybe its that there are jerks whom are rich and in the limelight so more people notice that?

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by PassivelyRich

I'm not so sure the correlation is close between being rich and being a jerk, maybe its that there are jerks whom are rich and in the limelight so more people notice that?

Quite possible.

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HeySal

13 years ago

The rich have a different mindset than the poor altogether. They are also more educated and some people find that arrogance in itself. Many of the reasons the rich may seem arrogant is because they find the mindsets of many of the poor to be disgusting - defeatist attitudes are rampant amongst the poor, entitlement attitudes are not favorable. Most of them just want to stay away from that.

I was raised in a well to do setting and found that those who are actually obnoxiously arrogant are those who have small amounts of wealth but want to be seen as high rollers.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

13 years ago

There’s an old phrase, "Arrogance is ignorance matured".

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Blackman75 13 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

There's an old phrase, "Arrogance is ignorance matured".

I love that expression! Thanks for sharing that! I am definitely going to use that one!
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nipsyr

13 years ago

Jerks can be found anywhere in any socioeconomic climate.

Think of jerk co workers or bosses your have had. They aren't rich but they sure could be jerks.

i find the trashy type poor to be the most vocal and rude to people with money. They have that permanent everyone owes me something victim mentality.

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by nipsyr

Jerks can be found anywhere in any socioeconomic climate.

Think of jerk co workers or bosses your have had. They aren't rich but they sure could be jerks.

i find the trashy type poor to be the most vocal and rude to people with money. They have that permanent everyone owes me something victim mentality.

But the question is why? Why do people choose to be this way or not try to eliminate this as the dominant part of their personality?

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seasoned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Blackman75

But the question is why? Why do people choose to be this way or not try to eliminate this as the dominant part of their personality?

Some see it as a way of making money! Others IRONICALLY, have an inferiority complex.

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- Blackman75 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by seasoned
  
  Some see it as a way of making money! Others IRONICALLY, have an inferiority complex.
  
  Steve
  
  Have to agree with you wholeheartedly Steve.
  
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ceenote100

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Blackman75

Why can't a person who acts like a jerk just say, "Oops, I was a jerk and wrong" and leave it at that?

I think that would defeat the purpose of acting like a jerk.

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Blackman75 13 years ago

Originally Posted by ceenote100

I think that would defeat the purpose of acting like a jerk.

Yeah I suppose you have a point there.
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Jesse L

13 years ago

Some just have jerk built in:

nar·cis·sism

Excessive or erotic interest in oneself and one's physical appearance.
Extreme selfishness, with a grandiose view of one's own talents and a craving for admiration.

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

13 years ago

You don't have to be rich to be arrogant...but it sure helps pay the 'dues'...

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Hopeless Bromantic

13 years ago

This thread reminds me of a guy I saw a couple of years ago at a trade show. As we walked past each other in the corridor between the vendor's booths, I heard him bellowing into his cell phone, telling the person at the other end of the line:

"I can't connect with these people. They say I'm arrogant."

I swear I am not making this up. :rolleyes:

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Blackman75

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Hopeless Bromantic

This thread reminds me of a guy I saw a couple of years ago at a trade show. As we walked past each other in the corridor between the vendor's booths, I heard him bellowing into his cell phone, telling the person at the other end of the line:

"I can't connect with these people. They say I'm arrogant."

I swear I am not making this up. :rolleyes:

Wow that is hilarious!

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Resale Rights Ninja

13 years ago

I can be the nicest damn guy in the world but I can also be a total prick. Being a jerk is a good way to get more space and have people leave you alone. Also when someone makes ignorant comments to women or people who don't deserve it - it sets me off and I usually have them shut their face pretty fricking quick. I don't even have to talk sometimes. I just look at a person and they get the message. But I wasn't always this way. I was a skinny little nerd and I was bullied pretty bad - like seriously scary shit like being electrocuted and strangled and scared for my life. Out of fear I started standing up for myself and then people started to fear me. Which really surprised me - especially when some of those guys were way bigger than me. But it was all in the attitude. Necessity is the mother of balls....

I hate rich jerks though. Thinking they are better just because they grew up with money. I have cousin who comes from money and he is such a snob. Without money though the guy has nothing to offer. It really irritates me though. He has his nose so stuck up in the air and thinks he is better than every one - what a dick. But to be fair if I was raised like he was I bet I would of turned out the same way. I grew up poor and work hard for everything I make and I have a really good understanding of people both rich and poor. If I grew up rich I would be just another ignorant prick who doesn't know any better.

I have so much more respect for self made people that those who grew up with old money. I almost feel sorry for those with old money because they are so clueless; but then they can afford to be ignorant. Personally I would rather have the knowledge that I am no better or worst than someone who is rich or poor. Put one of those rich people in a poor persons situation and they would crack and end up just like them. I have a healthy respect and understanding of what is really going on in peoples lives - You don't know what other people have gone through. You cannot judge them. You cannot say you are better than them. Let me put you in their shoes and you would be EXACTLY the same.

P.S. These statements are generalized. I know some people with old money who are awesome. People turn out differently for so many different reasons.

What really matters is your own attitude and having it serve you. Don't let other people effect how you feel.

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