OK, what do YOU think?

13 years ago

I'm going to eventually abandon my desktop computer for a regular laptop. I'll probably stick with my Tracfone for a while longer. The big deal with tracphone is we just got one blue-tooth enabled

Other than that, I use Skype and just haven't been feeling the need for a fancy phone with all the bells and whistles and huge phone bill to keep it enabled.

As for the cloud system and other innovations in tech, we would only use something like that if it were really necessary for us.

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yukon

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

As far as I am concerned, I think we are on the 4th generation of "smart phones"....

Just going from memory.....

1. PALM -- This was not marketed right, and most have stayed with the basic apps. It was used by rich, business people, etc.... General market probably saw it as a flop. One site says this was created in 1996. OK, OK, not really a "SMART PHONE", but the direct ancestor of the TREO.
2. Black Berry -- This was not marketed right, and most stayed with basic apps. It was used by rich, business people, etc.... General market probably saw it as a flop. That site says this was created in 2002
3. Various ones, like windows attempt in the market. They were JOKES! HIGH PRICED, ETC.... Not even MENTIONED on that site!
4a. Iphone -- Not really marketed right, limited market, etc.... Originally used by rich, business people, etc.... That site says this was created 2007
4b. Android -- Obviously, an open source widely used one that is catching on. Created in 2007 but apparently didn't catch on until maybe 2010.

So we have had maybe 2-3 years really, and things are slow to catch on and spread. Some are amazed at the increase in sales. I'm not. Think of all that owned a phone, etc.... I got MY first real smart phone in maybe 2006 because some TSA idiot effectively threw my phone at the floor. TODAY, I have a new one because my old one broke.

What about all the kids, the lower prices, decisions, etc? OF COURSE sales are picking up.

Well, they then talk about PC sales dropping by 2%. I see that as a net GAIN! I mean to keep 98% of a strong market in a bad economy? And smart phones are generally ONE to a person! A household may have 4 or more, and they may be practically free. A PC may be one to a household, and cost upward of $300!

But today I see how the 2% drop is saying that "Cloud computing is taking over" and "The PC market is DEAD"!

Would YOU abandon your PCs, and go to a "cloud system"?

Steve

First, phones are not free, chances are they cost as much, If not more than a PC when you add up that monthly phone payment times two years (or whatever) of contract payments.

I have no reason to use a cloud, everything I do online is from a desktop with local storage.

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yukon

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill

Everything I do is in the cloud. I can work from anywhere.

That's ok, as long as your judgement isn't clouded.

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MissTerraK

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill

Everything I do is in the cloud. I can work from anywhere.

Ken's got his head up in the clouds again!

Terra

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travlinguy

13 years ago

Get Off of My Cloud

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RyanEagle

13 years ago

Been loving the iphone over most generations of it, although I have to admit, I haven't really tried Android or Windows phone.

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seasoned

13 years ago

Originally Posted by RyanEagle

Been loving the iphone over most generations of it, although I have to admit, I haven't really tried Android or Windows phone.

From what I have heard, the windows variants aren't that great. Apparently the general market indicates that as well. You so rarely hear about them. The tablet Windows RT ALSO seems to be junk! They didn't even get a MENTION at A Brief History of Smartphones | PCWorld ! Blackberry is apparently losing. So I think the two major players now are android and IOS(or whatever the iphone OS is called).

Yukon,

Monthly fees don't really count, since they are for the service. Some phones ARE effectively free. Granted, you are often bound into a plan, but hopefully THAT is a non issue. At least that is what they do in the US.

Steve

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yukon

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

From what I have heard, the windows variants aren't that great. Apparently the general market indicates that as well. You so rarely hear about them. The tablet Windows RT ALSO seems to be junk! They didn't even get a MENTION at A Brief History of Smartphones | PCWorld ! Blackberry is apparently losing. So I think the two major players now are android and IOS(or whatever the iphone OS is called).

Yukon,

Monthly fees don't really count, since they are for the service. Some phones ARE effectively free. Granted, you are often bound into a plan, but hopefully THAT is a non issue. At least that is what they do in the US.

Steve

Trust me (famous words), nobody is getting a free phone.

The cost of the phone is rolled over into the cost of using the phone service.

It's the same for most things that are advertised as being free, example Directv offers free installation of the satellite receiver + dish. The installers are usually sub-contractors that make around $50 per basic installation (my brother was an installer years ago). Directv can afford to pay the installer by rolling the $50 into monthly payments spread out over many months.

You might not see the so called free item on the bill, but I guarantee your paying for the item, otherwise the business would go belly up.

BTW, I'm in the SC (US).

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seasoned

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Trust me (famous words), nobody is getting a free phone.

The cost of the phone is rolled over into the cost of using the phone service.

It's the same for most things that are advertised as being free, example Directv offers free installation of the satellite receiver + dish. The installers are usually sub-contractors that make around $50 per basic installation (my brother was an installer years ago). Directv can afford to pay the installer by rolling the $50 into monthly payments spread out over many months.

You might not see the so called free item on the bill, but I guarantee your paying for the item, otherwise the business would go belly up.

BTW, I'm in the SC (US).

YEP, I know and agree. I just mean that, rolled in or not, you often don't pay up front, and pay over time. I think MOST try to average a zero balance in 2 years, so a $240 phone effectively costs $10/month. If they figure they can absorb that, you pay nothing. YEAH, that $10 is paid, but likely would have been anyway. If they will only absorb $240, and you buy a $300 phone, they may charge you $60 for the phone up front.

This is ALSO their excuse for the high termination fee. BTW my point was that peope get the phone at a lower initial and hidden cost that includes service, so they are an easier sale. And the personal need means a larger market. Larger market + easier sale = larger market share.

Steve